Poor man`s wooden dummy 1 (3)
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- List of building materials for the wooden dummy blacksilk style
For the main corpus I used a garden pole 9cm x 9 cm of 2m height. That would be approximately 3.6 inches x 3.6 inches and 6,5 feet high. It cost me about 8 Euro.
For the two shoulders and the leg I used a square garden pole of the same height with a square measure of 7cm x 7 cm (2,8 inches x 2,8 inches). Also 8 Euro.
Both are standard sizes to be found in every hardware store. They are already coated to withstand outdoor conditions.
I used a zinc coated steel stand to hold the main corpus. That was the most expensive single item. It cost me 49 Euros.
The upper shoulder was measured to match my own shoulder width and cut accordingly. The arms of the dummy where cot to match the length of my forearm. The upper arm pair which I mounted on the upper shoulder has an inner distance of one fist width, the outer distance are two of my own fists. I have used only standard items from he hardware store. Nothing fancy at all.
In the fotos you will see that the groundplate of the stand has a hole in it. I used an 8 inch standard screw to fix the dummy in the ground of my garden. This fixates the dummy in place so that it withstands the training, but it can easily be unscrewed and so the dummy is removable.
Enjoy and have fun.
Oh, and all it cost me was 119 Euro and an afternoon of manly work. Please go to a currency calculator if you want to know what that is in your local currency,
Enjoy.
DISCLAIMER
This video is meant for entertainment purposes only. Neither I, nore any person involved in the making of this video accept any responsibility for any harm that may befall you or others as a consequence of this video. This clip shows potentially dangerous moves and techniques. Do only practice them with a qualified instructor. Before attempting any of these consult with your medical doctor.
You can actually tell how well a person plays the dummy just by listening to the sound of the of it being played. Timing, strength and expression of power, control, transitions, etc., just by listening.
Your enthusiasm never stops and you are a great kung fu devotee! Keep up the good work and thanks for the vid!
Great job !! Need to make one myself so I don't forget the Bagua wooden dummy routine I do know. Love the conditioning a wooden dummy imparts to the hands and arms. Thanks for the inspiring vid!! Woohoo. :)
PVC pipe of course I know of. PVC pipe and cement actually never occured to me. Thanks for the intel. And as for the garden dummy: I will make a better one as soon as I get around it. Unfortunately - like everybody else - I have a busy professional schedule and the project stretches itself. Already got the timber and all, but I do not seem to find the time to lay the foundation. Hopefully this summer I will find the time.
Thanks for the info again.
take care
silk
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pretty impressive. interesting, you and I are on the same wavelenght. I decided today to explain how to build a wooden dummy. This one is good for some things. The movement of the arms is extremely important as they train turning on and off of subtle but important exhibitions of energy. One example is the bong "dropping" to the tan.
I had the idea to build one and after seeing your video I put it into action . Thanks for the video .
Nice job. I like your design here. I am going to make one. Thank you for posting.
The construction itself is astonishingly sturdy and takes a lot of punishment. I had to pimp the stand severl times until I was satisfied. The main problem is that the main body is square. That means if I do not pay attention I hit my knuckles exactly on the edge every time I practice hooks or diagonal attacks. So if I had to do it again i would use a round post. Apart from that the dummy performed well for several years without major wear and tear.
take care man
silk
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@58belvedere the wooden dummy is used to perfect your form if you have no partener and fighting some drunk who cant even stand straight is pretty weak pick on some one who can fight and blacksilkblacksilk thank you for the video it was highly informational
Wooden dummies are martial artist's favorite toys. As a martial artist, who doesn't love this XD?
Looks good just a little bit of advice for your next one watch out with that metal strap you have on the leg and make the upper arms one about 2 inches higher than the other one apart from that looks a winner i would get mung bean bags and use electrial wide tape to attach the bags around near the metal bits and also make large mungbean canvas bag and tape it on the head part to make a head to punch im making one of these real soon enjoy thanks i may use springs for the arms
Great Construction!
Thanks very much for the kind words. maybe i will color the next one, bute the green-ish color is just the outdoor coating that went along right from the lumber yard. Since it was only meant as an experimental design I did not bother with extra painting.
i must however say that now the dummy has already seen three years of abuse, and it did hold it`s own.
take care
silk
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@blacksilkblacksilk dont worry about what Idiots say you did an amazing job. Thank you for posting this video on alternative way to making the " Muk Yan Jong, The poor mans way " lol. I study Both Korean and Japanese systems and alittle in chinese. I was searching the web on Martial arts stores I coould buy them from. Stores sell the for $700 U.S.A) starting price and up, depending on the quality. thnks again. No matter what keep encouraging ppl by being yourself :)
@thepathlesspath Thanks!
I have heard from several sides that plastic tubing was no good, so I decided to go for wood and metal only. I hope you will have better luck with your next dummy.
take care
silk
@alphaomega309 Thanks for the kind words. You are right, sooner or later I will have a "proper" dummy. Now that I have a house the place is available. Since I am an incurable tinkerer I will however try to make one myself. That way it`s more fun. You where lucky to get a good gate post. My garden post is of course way too thin.
take care and have a nice day
silk
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Thanks for dropping by. Your advice is very much appreciated. And yes, the metal straps on the leg have been giving me grief to no end. That was definitely a major design flaw. As for the different hight in the arms - it never occured to me to do that, but the deigsn would probably allow for a refit rather easy.
However I have some timber now. Dried it in that garage for some months and as soon as spring weather permits I will start working on a much improved version. The bags would bean asset.
@DiegoINSOMNIA Thanks for the input. Believe me I haave put a lot of though into considerations such as you suggest. But I am doing this as a hobby. So I am on a budget both financially and with my time. Then we moved to the new house, and whatsnots. Never got around doing so. Today i wuld have a better solution then the metall parts alltogether. But that no longer matters. The timber for a nice round more classical dummy is drying in my garage right now. Will start in spring.
Your design is by far the best do-it-yourself design I have seen so far. Thanks for pointing me in this direction. Take care silk
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Thanks for dropping by. Telephone pole is a great idea. One word of caution however: if that thing is insect treated and laced with god alone knows what, then maybe you want to coat it anyway with some outdoor varnish or something. After all if you hit it hard every day then part of those chemicals are bound to seep in your skin. I discarded railroad cross-ties for that reason. Padding on the hit surfaces will also help in that case.
Take care and good luck man
silk
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@bowerybaker
Sooner or later I will. This is a prototype. The main goal was to combine the properties of dirtcheap and sturdy. I will abuse this none to test and check the pros and cons, and I will take the nexct design from there. Round main body is definitely high on my list.
Thanks for dropping by.
Take care and have a nice day
silk
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ok anyway good job,u give a spirit to do my own dummy take care
Really Cool thanks Ive been needing an idea how to now I know
@edwintkdjiujitsu Thanks for the support bro. I noticed the same thing: dummies are absurdly expensive. That`s why I came up with the idea. I recently pimped this design to the next stage, but since the flu got me cold the video will have to wait until I get better. Then i will show the next "stage" in the development.
Take care
silk
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@1straycat99 That sounds like a pretty cool design.
Please make sure to upload a clip. I am always eager to learn about new ideas if it comes down to dummy design.
take care
silk
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great video thank you for sharing. don't listen to the negative comments. it's great what your doing keep training your technique is great.
@walking1way
That is material from a heavy duty rubber mat. Those mats can be purchased in hardwarestroes and they are put under laundry machines and such to dampen the vibration. So this is very sturdy and tough rubber material. This way I get the necessary elasticity in the joints.
Hope that helps.
take care
silk
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You can take rolls of paper towels flatten them by stepping on it and tape them to the body they make great striking pads and bagloves are not necessary
hey that was a nice vidio i'm making one out pvc but i want springs for pulling 360% pull a head with give and pre geting to the dummy for out side entering ..but nice idea ya had thumbs up thanks ricky 5 alwaasy
Mastr Wong is cool.
take care man
silk
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@DTGtaihojutsu THX for the kind words. We had a lot of fun, building the dummy. My bosses - also known as wife and daughter - have named the dummy OLGA. Why I have no idea, but the powers that be have so decided in theri infinite wisdom. So OLAG it is. I will let everyone know how well OLGA actually performs.
take care and have a nice weekend
silk
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@r3bol I am not quite sure I understande the question, but the angels are more or less a result of the construction. I would have liked them more like in a classical Muk Chong, but that just was not doable.
However the dummy still is very usefull. You got to know what you do and why, then you can adopt to the unfamiuliar angels.
Also the dummy is a prototype. Onde day I will build a MARK II version that is hopefully more like the original.
thanks for your interes
take care
silk
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@mbutchin
That is a question I am curious about myslef. The dummy in this form is a prototype. So I am not sure myself how much punishment it will be able to take. Basically we had spare time at our hands and discovered the steel stand. Upon seeing the stadn i immideatly thought "dummy" and the rest was engineering on the fly. So I will put this dummy through the grinder to check out what it can do and what it cannot do, and where the structiral pros and cons lie.
take care
silk
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The original stand was the single most expensive piece at 49 euros. The rest of the wood and the screws around 50 euros if I remember correctly. Took me about half a day including going shopping in the hardware store and assembling. Plus a couple of hours to tinker around on the drawing board.
@ObaNarayanShivaji999 The idea was to get the sturdiest possible dummy for the lowest price using only standard pieces from a hardware store that are easy to come by. This is what my friend and I could conjure up in an afternoon. We could not figure out how to do the crossed arms with tha parts we had so that it wold still be sturdy enough. But hey it is a prototype.
take care my friend and have a nice weekend
silk
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awesome!
awesome work buddy,juz an opinion,maybe you color it in black
Excellent video article! Although I do not practice yong chun, I do enjoy having something solid against which to practice. This is a very useful instructional; One doesn't have to spend hundreds of dollars on equipment. I do want to ask though, based upon the construction of this dummy: How hard can you safely strike without breaking or damaging the joins?
@heartslord Thank you.
I am very curious about your clip on how to make a dummy. Like you say the devil - but of course also the rewards - normaly have a tendency to lurk in the details.
Being a martial artist with a physics & engineering background I like to reverse engineer what I see in the many vids in utube land. So for many reasons I am looking forward to your "how to" vid on the dummy.
Thanks for the support. have joy and take care.
silk
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The central post is 10 cm by 10 cm by 2 meters. A standard fence post they had in stock. The arms are table legs that I chose by measure of hand and eye, and the shoulders are I believe 5 cm by 5 cm. Lengths of the shoulders again measured on site when assembling to fit my body frame. Sorry that`s the best i can remember.
about the edges i have worked with wood before so if you have a sander or extremely rough sand paper just sand down the edges with the sander. with the sandpaper first you should get the rough sandpaper and sand the sides you might hit then go over it again with smooth sand paper not too smooth or it wont work. or you could go the easy way out and buy a round post if you do it again. just a few tips hope it helps.
Hi buddy, Have you ever try to make the body of dummy by PVC pipe and cement? Try it and you will have a better dummy!
P/S : If i have a big garden like you, I will make a stable dummy. At the moment, I only use a wall home made dummy.
outstanding ingenuity!!!
What measurements did you use, could you kindly share....the height of the pole, and the length between the two arms and the lower arm. And the length between the lower arm and the leg...
nice vids. great job. dont be to harsh with that wooden dummy. try not to beat the crap out of it.
Thanks. This dummy was treated so harshly that I finally had to depose of it. My new dummy is much more massive ;-))
Nice Job!
@uberbigbread Actually it was fun. My wife banished me and my friend from the house for some hours, so we decided to have fun.
Have a nice weekend
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silk
could you possibly make a video of you putting this together because its going to be hard trying to guess how to make it if its not too much trouble ?
For the dummy as seen in this clip, I am sad to say that no. In July I will implement some serious upgrades to the dummy though (if the gods of murphy grant me a pardon that is LOL ) and I am planning on documenting that to the best of my abilities. For this one the sequence of fotos is all I have. Sorry
@blacksilkblacksilk
It's still good.
Cool, but why not the crossed arms?
@chinaboxer
THX a lot
Great set of vids! I'm going to make a pvc dummy and fill it with cement and mount it into the ground. I'm interested n a dummy that I can do iron body training with and so far they are all weak.
Thanks fro dropping by and for commenting. Unfortunately this dummy design is not optimal, but at the time I was still living in a rented flat, and the landlady would not let me have another setup. Now I have a garden of my own and after a couple of experiment s I finally went for simply burying a tree trunk in the ground. Works fine and is I thin also very suitable for iron body training.
Glad you liked the mini series.
take care
silk
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Not readily available, but I was toying the idea to make some blueprints anyways. So if it does not have to come overnight I wil try to come up with something. But let me warn you. My technical drawing skills are a bit rusty. So don`t expect something with engineering standrards.
Hope that helps.
if you do make plans or blueprints it would be very helpful it doesn't have to be perfect it just has to show me where the parts go. thank you for the reply hope it isn't too much trouble
What did you use for the arms. I'm currently in the arduous task of planing 4X4 boards,but I'd appreciate any advice to make it easier to finish
How well did this stand up to much use after a while?
It lastest about three and a half years and was replaced by a better model after that time, but it would have still been sturdy enough to take further abuse after that time - and I always had it outdoors. In retrospect I must say, that the square posts and square shoulders where the biggest problem. You always had to watch out to prevent injury. Otherwise she was a fine little implement for a very low budget.
@ksipa Had this on my mind for quite some time. When my friend and me saw the steel stand we both had the same thought. Any chance of seing the wooden man routine from your bagua branch bro ?
take care
silk
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@58belvedere Lucky me the dummy does not fight back then. Just imagine wood and steel kicking my behind. How rude. So, noble commenter I would be honored if you uploaded some of your bar room experience to QUOTE "lern me how to fight real quick" .
Until such times take care and have a nice day
silk
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must be a hassle to make this.cool though
Sorry. All the footage I do have is the images that I uploaded here.
thank you how long did this take you to make and how much was the cost ?
what about plans or blueprints ? ( i am trying not to hassle you im just trying to find a way)
i have one question can the dummy take hits ?
wat are those black stuff?
@ProTuner06
For the record...Ip Man and Yip Man are the same person...LOL
thats ok thank you
@58belvedere yes go play with your bar you dont understand something then you shouldnt even comment
Lol.. we get to see how big the lady is.. XD
im sorry i forgot to ask about measurements
Hey if you want some other ideas on training equipment check out master wong
Yeah you really don't know what your doing with that dummy lol.
TY-HUJI Benjamin I trust you will publish a clip of your own to enlighten the world about the right way of doing things - maybe even a clip you actually made yourself.
Take care and have a nice life
so you cant make a video tutorial ?
i used a telephone pole for my dummy god those poles stink though
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