House of M Omnibus Overview | What is the House of Magnus?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Here it finally is! The advance overview of the House of M Omnibus . I talk about the mapping and build of the book and where it takes place in the world of Avengers and X-men! The book is due out on the Direct Market and Book Market on January 10th.
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This was the biggest storyline when I returned to reading comics in college. After I stopped reading in 8th grade.
This is a must buy for me.
I want them to do a civil war omnibus as well.
Civil War Omnibus, I cannot believe they haven't done that yet. I'd buy that in an instant.
Civil War Omnibus would be a day one purchase!
Unfortunately I think they will butcher the reading order of Civil War, I’m buying the trades for cheap so that I can get them bound into the Comicbookherald reading order
I’ve always wanted an omnibus for this and it’s wild that it’s finally here. I would be thrilled if they ever release a Civil War omnibus, a Dark Reign and Siege omnis as well. Been looking forward to this overview and you killed it 🔥🔥🔥
I feel like civil war would need more then one omni.
They could release a Civil War Companion Omnibus along with it.@@xXCigarXx
Now we need a siege omnibus from this era since you asked omar
Yeah that and a civil war omni would be nice
@@fishin4bass2002 i totally agree with that
I loved Siege. Secret Invasion (the mini itself) felt too long but Siege hit that sweet spot, plus the Dark Reign lead up was really good.
Siege not needed. MIain book is good. Spinoffs are hit or miss.
Siege and Civil War
All the 2000-2010s Marvel macro saga should be collected in Omnis:
- New Avengers Omni Vol 1Reprint expanded with Secret War and Spider-Man: Breakout
- More New Avengers Omni Volumes collecting New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Dark Avengers, The Initiative and The Pulse (Maybe a Pulse Complete Collection reprint, but it would be great to have it in an Omni)
- Civil War Omnibus
- Secret Invasion Omni reprint, expanded with better mapping
- Dark Reign Omnibus
- Siege Omnibus
- Post-siege Avengers/New Avengers Omni
- Fear Itself Omnibus (?)
- Messiah Era of X-Men and other X-Titles in multiple Omnis (Messiah Complex, Messiah War, Necrosha X, Second Coming, etc.)
- etc.
also avengers x-men utopia omni in addition to these :)
@@deanwinchester4778 Yes!
Marvel was on fire those years. So many good books
I would be fine if they collected all of Bendis' Avengers and the events in one omnibus line "Avengers by Bendis". Combine all his Avengers titles and the events by him, like they did with Hickman era
@@juuso7792 Precisely, just like the Hickman Omnis collect Avengers and New Avengers
Seeing Carol Danvers in all her splendor within House of M, makes me want an omnibus of Ms. Marvel by Brian Reed!
With Secret Wars and House of M Omnibus coming the same time, 2023 is on an awesome start!
Three words - "No More Procrastinating...." I better order this most highly anticipated omnibus NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Thanks for the overview, Omar!
I really wish they would not only reprint new avengers but give us the rest of the run
No more cookies! That's my resolution for the new year. And yeah, I've ordered this, looking forward to reading it again. One of the rare events where the consequences stuck around for more than 2 months after it ended.
I already own the House of M hardcover but I believe I will have to purchase this omnibus. As a completest I need everything. I wish I had picked up the Avengers Disassembled HC years ago.
House of M OHC is among the first few western comic I ever read concurrent with AXM and NA, and the story and art blew me away. Excellent omni and review as always
I am so stoked for this. Expecting it to be delivered this week!
Now they need to fill the gap between this and avengers vs X-men. Bring on those Messiah Trilogy Omnibus already Marvel!
Regarding a "Civil War Omnibus", besides the main series there are something like 90 Civil War tie-ins so it would need two omnis at the very least. Perhaps the "Road to Civil War" tie-ins, Civil War #1-7, mini-series and one-shots in the main omni, and then all the tie-ins from ongoing series in a "Civil War Companion Omnibus"?
A single "Dark Reign Omnibus" is even more improbable. To collect absolutely everything would need a minimum of four omnis, but more likely it would be five or even six. Even just the various Dark Reign mini-series and one-shots would probably require two omnis.
Can't wait to grab this omnibus :) Thank's for the overview Omar :)
Your overview really helped, brother. Keep them coming.
Can't wait for my copy to arrive. Great story, the art is beautiful. And another yes for Siegeand Civil War (and Bendis avengers 2).
Great review, Omar! Mapping this event is tricky, when choosing to integrate the stories. I think the mapping here, is porbably for the best. The minis and tie-ins are more like 'Tales of the House of M', and fine to read afterwards - to add depth to one's understanding of the world!
Hehe yes I got what you did there, Omar. I think you did an awesome job although I've never read this asides from a copy of issue one this would be a welcome addition to the collection at some point
The mapping sounds good to me. I think it definitely would have messed with the flow of the book to have all the other stuff between issues.
Agreed, House of M itself was pretty self contained.
To each, his (or her) own.
I have been waiting for this omnibus but after learning about the poor mapping (i.e. “proper” or a least “better” reading order needed) I have to - sadly decline from buying this.
I have read omnis with lots of tie-ins in between the main event (e.g. Blackest Night omnibus or even the least favoured X-Men/Avengers Onslaught omnibus), I don’t feel the excitements of the event are lost!
Therefore, I am firm with my stand that Marvel shouldn’t be using this as a “common excuse” to map omnis poorly.
@@azmiali7982 I agree. I want an event omni with all the tie ins for a reason. Why wouldn’t you want it in reading order if it’s going to include all the tie ins in between. Personally I’ve never understood people who like the current mapping method for the event Omnis but as you said, to each their own
I was late to pre-ordering this and now it’s back ordered everywhere so I’m gonna wait until it’s on Amazon. Lol.
I’m sure instocktrades will have a lot of copies
@@sarahbembry7512 completely forgot about them. Thank you!
Just be patient, it is likely only the first distributor batch that sold. I am sure all the retailers will get more batches. This is Marvel, they will print and continue to print a ton of these.
I'd be wary of ordering from Amazon. It might be my local distribution center, but almost every time they ship omnis, it gets mangled. I had to return my last omni three times, before I got a copy I could live with.
Would love a ❤ a read review on this one! Hope you do it 😅.
So let me get this straight…Spider-Man wakes up married to Gwen Stacy but Cyclops doesn’t wake up married to Jean Grey!? I try to give these modern comics reviews a chance but I’m always reminded why I quit buying new comics around this period. Glad though that the fans of this story are getting this book. I think no matter what you like we can all agree we want our favorite stories reprinted.
You need to look at the time this was coming out. Jean just died like 2 years before and this was way too soon to bring her back. I was a new reader at the time and this made perfect sense to me.
@@Moshikal15 I think it was more like Marvel was trying hard to put over Scott and Emma as a legit couple to the readers and not something temporary. But I understand that there is a whole generation of readers who grew up with Scott/Emma so from their perspective they are a legit couple. Just like there’s a whole generation who thinks MJ is Peters true love and a different group of readers who feel it’s Gwen.
@@camilocuba6927 Fair enough.
Great review thank you Omar. As a recent returnee to comics and a huge X fan this is one I’ve really been looking forward to. Really appreciate the steer about reading Avengers Disassembled and Astonishing first which I wouldn’t have done otherwise. Keep up the great work.
Having finished it, one thing I’d like to see during the “Previously on” pages is an indication of where it fits in the story. For example with Wolverine, “This series takes place between House of M issues #1 and #2”.
The DM cover is amazing, I am going for that one. But this months already feels expensive because soon is the reprint of Batman and Robin omni by Gleason and Tomasi
JMS/Gillen Thor omnibus with the siege main event and Aaron Thor 2 please.
Thank you.
From what you are explaining it sounds like I should read all of the crossovers as preludes and then read the main story
I picked up all the trades for this saga - where all the spines connect and form the House of M logo
As for mapping events? I like them to be mapped in chronological order. Like AOA omnibus was. That was perfect mapping.
This book made scarlet witch one of my favorite characters and still is today. And is my favorite in the MCU. Yes I loved vision and scarlet witch show and dr strange 2.
Got the OHC so may not upgrade as there are other omnis that i dont have and will take priority but if you do not have this they buy it the story is great
Great overview! Thank you so much for these
Are there any plans of doing an overview for Superman: Birthright The Deluxe Edition that recently came out?
Exiles omnibus, well overdue
I am so glad that there are others who want an eXiles Omni! I had all the single issues!
@@tasan215 I still have a lot of them too. I picked up the first complete collection a while ago too
Ahhh yes them words were beautiful from this run. 😊N.M.M. So good
So from what I’ve read so far, this is mapped very similar to World War Hulk and, to a lesser extent, Infinity Gauntlet. Main story at the front, and the rest of the book is all the tie-ins. Very different than say Age of Apocalypse or War of the Bounty Hunters that was released in chronological order. We’ll see if that stays true once I get further into the book.
As you said during the video, this is a very oddly produced event that is very difficult to build a reading order around that doesn't feel like it abandons the plot entirely for big chunks. The Spider-Man one in particular you called out is egregious in that regard and doesn't feel like it fits at all with the main event issues. So it's hard to get mad at the order for this one, and the hardcovers were so long out of print that they're absurdly expensive to get a hold of as well - if you're interested in the event, grab this up quick.
That said, please keep trying to use reading orders Marvel! The answer to weirdly written events is not to not try, it is to improve the writing coherency and relevance of the tie-ins in your events so that this isn't a problem in the first place. The recent AXE: Judgement Day event was fantastic in this regard, and when the omnibus eventually comes out, it deserves a proper reading order! I want to keep loving buying these expensive books, so please give it your best effort going forward.
I agree with you on the reading order.
Olivier Coipel 🔥🔥🔥
Dope! I really liked yur overview of this omnibus especially the suggested reads yu gave in the beginning of the vid really great work 👍🏼 thanks a lot mr. Omar.
Being someone new to comics yu have helped me a lot especially wit yur marvel nd X-men reading orders thanks so much 🙏🏼
I second this , I would love to see Omar select pre requisite reading for any omni overviews that would enhance the experience.
Good luck trying to find "Avengers Disassembled" and "New Avengers" OHCs now.
I got lucky on Amazon last year with Avengers Dissambled when this book was announced. Good condition too.
I think I’ll save my money.
I did pre-order this! Waiting for it to arrive. I remember when the single issues came out - bought them and MOST of the cross-overs. I was happy with them, but not happy, overall, with the return of the event era. They came back with a BANG, then I was bummed with the number and lack of quality. It reached a point where the event books didn't tell enough of the overall story (post House of M) and the crossovers didn't feel relevant enough. So, the balance is there someplace, but... yeah... Anyway, House of M!! Loved the overview... Highlight is always the Walt's Comic Shop jingle. :P Next to that, dead-on with the mapping - with this, it made sense to stick the mini in the beginning, then everything else after. Could the order of the rest be different? Maybe slightly... I'm looking forward to re-reading and getting through what I missed when the originally came out.
Yeah i agree, Omar, some of the mini series were good, but some were not so good, like Spider-Man.
Can't wait to get my copy (standard edition cover).
Appreciate you Uncanny Omar! 💯
#needsaneXilesomni
I’m ordering mine right now. Woo!!!
The thing I love most about Hickman’s X-men run is how it launches straight off of House of M. So, House of X is really a continuation of House of M.
I only have a few more singles to collect on Hickmans run…
I'm not sure what you mean by this? There's 14 years in between House of M and House of X. While House/Powers of X was designed as a jumping on point for new readers, it and the subsequent Dawn/Reign/Destiny of X eras do continue and references numerous events that occurred in between House of M and House of X. Off the top of my head, by not reading anything inbetween you'd be very confused about why Cable is so young, why Cyclops suddenly has a second brother*, why Beast is acting completely out of character, and who the Children of the Vault are.
* Without trying to spoil anything because it's relatively recent, an issue of X-Men Legends changes this further, but so far it's yet to be reference elsewhere.
@@bungleist1 okay
House of M Civil War, Avengers, Masters of Evil and Battleworld should be a companion for this omni. And a Decimation omni would be cool.
Omar do you know why Marvel did not add X-men (1991) 177-181 issues ? I think it is important for the story as an aftermath along with decimation day after, also it was included in the house of m decimation paperback
Because Chuck Austen? Lol kidding. Probably because Decimation can be it own omni.
@@NearMintCondition that was fast haha thanks I see, but I was wondering if there is enough material for a decimation omni
@@deanwinchester4778 Absolutely. think of all the minis and every title in the mutant world was affected by it.
This was my first omnibus! Now i have 10!
That Avengers Disassembled arc needs an omni reprint. It's such a good read, and me re-entering comicbookreading after a 10+ year break. Looking forward to that House Of M omni, it's still in preorder at Amazon NL
Was going to say .... good luck to anyone trying to find a copy of Avengers Disasembled now.
@@Ernasto Perhaps if the reprint of Bendis' GotG omni sells well, Marvel will look into re-printing other Bendis omnis like New Avengers Omnibus vol. 1 (and maybe even produce some new Bendis omnis!)
@@djsuth7727 You could always get the TPB instead - there are second hand copies on both Amazon and eBay for decent prices.
@@bungleist1 That's an option. I wonder if it's on Marvel Unlimited too ?
6:16 I looked at the description, nothing.
thats why he gets paid the big bucks
Yep got to get this one hell yea all due to the magnificent uncanny omar 💪😁
I'd love a Fear Itself omni
It seems that every Marvel Event Omnibus is mapped that way.
I think that’s because of the way the stories are written. Like the red sky tie ins.
@@NearMintCondition Yes, and I really don't mind. For example, the Venom Omnibus by Cates & Stegman has a fluid story, with the Absolute Carnage and the King in Black in the right place. After that, it's a joy to jump to the respective events omnibus and relive the main story and after that, read everything that was happening in the Marvel Universe at that moment...
Im concermed about the Eye, is that a good thing that it looked like that?
well the books you have recommended to read i might buy too but what order do i read it
the wolverine arc could've fit inbetween issues 2 and 3. I think its the best tie-in, how bout you?
I think I'll just keep my OHC as none of the tie-ins really matter for the main story and some don't even make any sense
I pre-ordered it, but I'll probably cancel it. I gotta say, this story doesn't need additional stuff, it ends rapidly as it began and it's pretty annoying, basically kind of like "alternative version", which Bendis would redo in Age of Ultron. Of all the complicated stuff from that period (Civil War....), I have to say that Bendis wrapped up best Secret Invasion and I felt like it really paid off diving through all the tie-ins.
How...necessary *is*....Avengers Disassembled?.....I ask mostly because it seems as expensive as a sizeable omni, sadly, due to lack of reprints I assume. 😅
Or is it better read online than collected?
Just read a wiki
I read this event concurrently with the New Avengers run. How much better would this read with the AXM issues added to the mix? I have the Whedon Omni, and I heard it is a great 1 and done read.
Pretty Good Story... I would wanna Read Some of the Side stories
But when do we get a Civil War Omni (or two)?
This gets released tomorrow 1/10 and their not letting any more orders for now
What order do I read those books you recommend I read before I read House of M?
Avengers Dissassembled, New Avengers 1-10 and then Astonishing 1-6. Then this.
@@NearMintCondition I suggest Astonishing X-Men 1 - 12
A little late but, is the Omnibus in reading order?
There isn’t a reading order to house of M really. Some of the minis don’t even make sense when reading the main title.
Understood! Thanks for answering and Merry Xmas!! @@NearMintCondition
Is there any bleed thru>?
Is this in reading order ?
I read the new avengers omnibus and astonishing is that enuff?
Yes sir.
i'll not be upgrading from the 4 OHC set, the 1st issues are iconic, the rest not so much
I’m looking for an Omega Level Magneto Omnibus, is this it? Or really just an amazing Magneto omnibus. Help? (I did pick this one up).
New X-men and Fatal Attractions come to mind as well as Uncanny volume 3.
@@NearMintCondition Thank you!!
Do you think Fatal Attractions will get a reprint? It's on the spendy side right now.
@@Crimmando Maybe one day!
This omnibus has an alarming (at least to me) ammount of art cut off at the bottom. Is that normal with omnis?
Can you give me some page numbers. I’ve never heard of that in Omnis.
I really wish that Marvel would stop putting the tie-ins all bunched together after the main series in their omnis. I know some people like that because they feel it messes with the flow of the main event. But for people like me who want to read the whole thing it makes it a huge pain having to look up the order then flip back and forth to read everything in order as it was released, it would be much easier for people who don't want to read the tie-ins to just skip past what they don't want to read while keeping things in order. I much prefer the way DC does their omnis (shame they aren't coming out with many new ones). Am I missing something, is there any other reason that they're doing it this way?
I’ll be honest. The mapping you are wanting would make this book a bad experience to read. People would be so confused why spiderman is here and why characters like iron man are acting so out of character. Flashpoint is a prime example of that. Middle ground I agree, but collected editions are supposed to enhance our reading experience not confuse us.
@@NearMintCondition When you read these how do you go about reading the tie-ins? Do you just read the the main story first then go read the tie-ins as they are laid out in the book or do you read them in any particular order? I haven't read the Flashpoint omni yet so maybe I'll understand more once get around to that (the backlog is real haha). I guess I was just surprised when I got the Absolute Carnage and King in Black omnis last year and saw that they didn't have the tie-ins laid out in order that I had read them in before they were collected.
the same way I did when they came out. I read the main story first. Then the tie ins. Just because I remember the mess it was when trying to read it weekly with the minis. It just made no sense.
My wallet getting hurt in every way
Watch this go out of stock soon.
lol. It won't.
Dinastia M
SECOND!
Crap i hate when they just chunk the stories. I guess I won’t get it.
First! 👻
This edition is crap. The pages are cutting out the art, 3mm at the bottom and 2 mm at the exterior of the page (I'm comparing with House of M Premium Edition, so it's not a difference wiht the floppies). I guess Omar did not notice... I do recomend House of M Premium Edition !
Does this have any material that is not in the 4 OHCs?
The Hulk Breaker of Worlds. That’s it.
@@NearMintCondition Thank you. Is this different from Hulk: Broken Worlds #1? Because that one's in the HOUSE OF M WOLVERINE IRON MAN and HULK OHC.
@@NearMintCondition Is the Decimation book in the OHCs?
Klaautu Brada Nikto? Necktie?
House of M os less interesting age of apocalypse
Dracula vol 2 please
Not a must buy. Main story is cool. Spin offs are not all that. Cash grab. Meh
Staggeringly lazy writing by Bendis/Waid in this book,both have fallen off, a.... not a little but off a CLIFF into an abyss. Was once great writers, in this both shows they just don't care anymore ,nor do the editors at Marvel who will OK any mish mash of ideas,no matter how bass ackwards they are.
Personally I believe he fell off in the way you describe in the civil war 2 period. I quite enjoyed everything he wrote up until then and suddenly it was as if he'd been replaced. My best guess is that the real Benis is in suspended animation in a Skrull prison somewhere because there should be no way such a once awesome writer should so abruptly become so bad.
Bendis was on fire those years. Not sure what you're talking about. His xmen/ civil war 2 is where he lost his mojo
@@jcaceres516 As beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,so is writing quality in entertainment overall. Bendis early work ,same with Waid is amazing super high quality, period,imho. Both in the last 4 to 5+ years aren't writing anymore,its vandalism ,not just 'deconstruction' per se,but deliberate Destruction,open vandalism even,sales data makes that clear,as does the outcry of the fans,aka paying cu$tomer$. Add in the fact both go far far out of their way to openly and fervently attack paying customers, and you get to where we are today with the Big two companies is financial disarray and in freefall as readers are widely abandoning Marvel and Dead Company for Manga,an industry that rightfully caters to customers desires and shockingly, RESPECTS folks ,instead of not just attacking their bread and butter ,but proudly #hitting in the punchbowl(the industry) and attacking customers and other creators for not joining in on their immolation of legacy characters and those not willing to burn it all down ,as Waid and Bendis now spend large amounts of time doing on social media. Luckily we can agree to disagree on all this,and our host Omar encourages such banter and dialogue if done politely. Sadly most under the age of 55 in Western nations, dont know history and cant think critically,and most, certainly dont know the difference between propaganda and escapist entertainment. I hope you and yours have a great week.
So M stands for Magnus? 😂 I always thought it’s Mutants
So did Melanie. But she just reread it last year lol
@@NearMintCondition ngl I’ve never read newer material, I always thought this is like a sitcom but with mutants 😂😂 a goofy spin on teenage mutants