I'm coming from their near stuff since 15' I will let you know my synopsis. Well its definitely not better than grimore and i can say its not better than anything else after that too. I am getting elitist vibes from this but that was the era back then. In the end it comes down to what you like more personally, not what is better
I still remember discovering Lorna Shore with Flesh Coffin ! And here we are today, Pain remains is a banger like their whole discography and their live performances are incredible !
I remember seeing them at a pizza joint, such a good show. what happened to the era of local shows and dope concerts at sweet venues. what happened to the time when all you had to do was walk around and there would be flyers or promotions of "see this band at this place at this time" now it's all online. you need to go search. we need to bring it back.
@@billybobthekidiswack nope melodic deathcore isn't metalcore, when there is melodic in the genre name it means it has elements of trad heavy metal AKA it's more melodic but it doesn't transform the base genre into another so in the summary metalcore has lighter sound not that abrasive sound as it's the case in deathcore n they use different vocal fry technique and often implement clean on chorus and somerimes mix clean vocals and rapping in the chorus ..and breakdowns are not that aggressive and no to blastbeats, also lyrical themes are different, generaly they are brutal but don't focuse on it as much as deathcore does...there are a lot more ways to distinguish these two genres but this is what i came up at the moment Edit: I would say that Lorna could also be defined as blackened melodic deathcore but don't know might be wrong
hey I’m Aaron and I wrote the guitars for this EP back when I was 16 and still a member of Lorna. Came back here for some nostalgia. I love all of Lorna’s music - past and present, but hearing this means a lot Dylan!
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 I saw them live 2 weeks ago and they were killer. I know they've been taking the extreme deathcore direction for years now but this EP is absolutely amazing. The fact that you wrote the riffs for these songs at 16 is insane!!!
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 this has more variation than the new stuff I mostly listen to groove metal now because it makes head bang most bands are so chaotic not and not head bangable
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 would you consider this a metalcore album? I’m hearing some progressive elements to it as well, what’s your take on what genre this would fit best under?
A-71 Lyrics: How low can you go? Second Skin Lyrics: I have come broken beyond repair This skin is torn & is bearing flesh Of everything that I used to be Some say I'm a chameleon, some say I'm a thief These words mean nothing My throne is out of reach Man & beast alike we all share the same fate My arms are open, but this heart is crushed I've let in the enemy & grown so fond of your touch I will still remain for you to see these battle scars of everyday life I have come to purge this world of your disease I'll wait here for you, just for you to realize what you have done Only for you to realize what you have done Welcome to the dawning of the age of the elite The weak are left alone to rot, forever strong we will be Betrayal is the only thing that sits on my mind I'm waiting for the day it comes to leave the world behind Open your arms, welcome the end My arms are open but this heart is crushed I have let in the enemy & have grown so fond of your touch I will still remain for you to see these battle scars of everyday life Every word we speak is where we learn to fight We will remain as one Infection Lyrics: Welcome, to the age of modern man I pray for the worst so that we all may go home forever Hold on, this gonna be a bumpy ride Child there's no time to rest your head There will be time to rest when you're dead Mechanized death driven, peace keepers flood these streets Bearing flame spewing weaponry Homes smolder in ashes, the foundation of man is crumbling Wounded crawl for salvation, missing limbs have gone astray The dead lay flaking into open air, decomposing & festering in infection They are airborne now [2x] Where have we gone wrong, this is a story for the ages My legs tremble at the thought of tomorrow, for we may not see the day World leaders corrupt television, & our media Many scan the radio waves helplessly, for a safe haven But all there is are snow blind dying frequencies There is no one to save us Rebels spark Molotov's Casting them into the open streets Flooded with the darkest of opposition Forward through the flames Continuing the crusade of the free A rise to power requires sacrifice These hands were made to dismember & maim all who stand against me Fighting through legions of the damned, all will die by my hands Where have we gone wrong, this is a story for the ages Fighting this endless war, the time has come to settle the score Now join & endure, let's show them what we got Where There’s Ruin Lyrics: Words could never describe This feeling of worthlessness and failure, always in the back of my head These eyes tell the tale of what it is to dream, a constant screaming Echoing an unforgiving reminder or why you fear to try With all things set aside please show me that there's so much more to life I've witnessed monuments fall, i've seen fields of the dead Whereas define retribution our fingers point to the end In act of desperation, we believe in all we see Lost prophets point the way crawling on hand and knee Miles and miles i have come to far Just turn my back and question who we really are Miles and miles pushing onward through the dark Tribulations and travesties will set the boys and men apart I won't give in (4x) For all the countless times i've prayed not to see your face We've crossed paths yet again its time to put you in your place I've shown you love when all have thrown you away Take in your final breathe behold this man made judgement day I forget where your purpose lies, you've accomplished to fail miserably without putting in the time Passing judgement on all i know, forgetting what is right and letting you go The Alliance Lyrics: There's been a constant battle that's been raging for centuries I fear it will never end Ork & man meet face to face This a battle for the dominant race Arrows arise in a mass & block out the sun You are not friend, but foe, forever my nemesis Soldiers hold fast to their mounts hands are clenched awaiting the fight I am the leader, we are the army of the light We have been sent from a higher power, prepare to face defeat When will you realize that your God is no greater than I? Lay down your arms, place your hands towards the sky There comes a point in time when you must see the end There comes a point in time where you must see your obsolete The time has come to face the end Swords are exchanged at the sound of a horn The dead drift out to sea their blood remain ashore [2x] We are the end What do we keep fighting for I have never (never felt so cold) Felt so cold inside it's days like this (I feel so far away) I feel so far away & all that's left (is the thought of not) Is the thought of never coming home Never coming home again (never coming home)
@@hipyhippo3829 not sure. It was prolly just some work they did as an undercover band. Then they realized they had some potential and took on a more commercial and serious role
@@dlrsnate5100 nah, they were deff playing a lot of shows with this material until progressing onto the next works. Speaking from experience. Lots of tri states shows
I keep seeing a lot of people saying that no one from this recording is currently in the band, but I thought Adam acknowledged in an interview that he was on this? Did they not have 3 guitarists? The stuff they do now definitely needs 3 actually, funny enough… If that is indeed the case, it’s hilarious that Tom went on to replace Alex in Chelsea Grin, since Alex was the only original member left!
And when i say the best deathcore album i truly mean the best deathcore album , the most sales , the most appeal , the chance too have its legacy kept intact and alive. Which is what makes it truly the best , immortality
I only gotten into Lorna Shore lately, because of Will Ramos and I decided to go through their discography. Holy shit. This sounds hella sick.
10 years later and still one of the best deathcore bands alive
This better than all the will ramos and half CJ era
truth. will era is just like nightwish deathcore aka 99% of most deathcore today
I'm coming from their near stuff since 15' I will let you know my synopsis. Well its definitely not better than grimore and i can say its not better than anything else after that too. I am getting elitist vibes from this but that was the era back then. In the end it comes down to what you like more personally, not what is better
I still remember discovering Lorna Shore with Flesh Coffin ! And here we are today, Pain remains is a banger like their whole discography and their live performances are incredible !
for me it's the dammed cat
I remember randomly finding this album back in 2010 and then completely forgetting about this band until last year. I should've kept up with them
7 years later they wrote the best deathcore album for '17
all of their albums are fucking great
Péter Bagosi yes
Yeah flesh coffin wasn’t too bad. Still waiting for them to drop something as killer as this though.
Psalms is really dense, but flesh coffin is art
@@CGFAN420 I think we can all agree that Immortal definitely is as if not way more killer than this.
Damn i didnt even know this EP existed. I thought Bone Kingdom was their first EP. 🤯
Sounds pretty good. They have alot of potential
Dude check out immortal and into the nothingness
@@chrishennessybrown9750 lol ik
Can’t wait to see them at Warped Tour
@@chrishennessybrown9750 It's And i return to nothingness****
No member that made this album is still in the band. Lorna have no founding members left in the band, but yes, they definitely made it lol.
I know they've disassociated themselves from this album but I think this is just as great as their current stuff in it's own regard
Ik right
I think 0 of the current memebers played on this
@@roxanbar1571 it's Tom barber voice i think
@@lzkaosac637 tom barber isn’t in Lorna anymore
no they havent
Just listening to all of Lorna Shore's material. Seeing them live! 🤟
Same here dude. I’m seeing them at the House of Blues in Cleveland on the 17th
I remember seeing them at a pizza joint, such a good show.
what happened to the era of local shows and dope concerts at sweet venues. what happened to the time when all you had to do was walk around and there would be flyers or promotions of "see this band at this place at this time"
now it's all online. you need to go search.
we need to bring it back.
They was so good as a Metalcore band.
It's Melodic Deathcore ^^ cheers! \m/
@@akumatensei5466 Uh...This ep is just straight up Metalcore.
@@akumatensei5466 melodic deathcore = metalcore. Metalcore in itself is just melodic death metal mix with beatdown hardcore
@@billybobthekidiswack nope melodic deathcore isn't metalcore, when there is melodic in the genre name it means it has elements of trad heavy metal AKA it's more melodic but it doesn't transform the base genre into another so in the summary metalcore has lighter sound not that abrasive sound as it's the case in deathcore n they use different vocal fry technique and often implement clean on chorus and somerimes mix clean vocals and rapping in the chorus ..and breakdowns are not that aggressive and no to blastbeats, also lyrical themes are different, generaly they are brutal but don't focuse on it as much as deathcore does...there are a lot more ways to distinguish these two genres but this is what i came up at the moment
Edit: I would say that Lorna could also be defined as blackened melodic deathcore but don't know might be wrong
Better as a death metal band! 😉🤘
Listening to this after Pain Remains is something else (I know none of the members that made Triumph are around now but it's still impressive)
Adam de Micco, the guitarist, he Is still in the band
@@giacomomartinelli8739 i dont think he was on this EP
Where There's Ruin living in my heart since 2010 ❤🔥
1- intro/fucking A71
2- second skinless
3- the answer to infection
4- where there's ruination
5- the metal alliance tour
these guys have come a long way haha
This is my fave release by them
hey I’m Aaron and I wrote the guitars for this EP back when I was 16 and still a member of Lorna. Came back here for some nostalgia. I love all of Lorna’s music - past and present, but hearing this means a lot Dylan!
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 I saw them live 2 weeks ago and they were killer. I know they've been taking the extreme deathcore direction for years now but this EP is absolutely amazing. The fact that you wrote the riffs for these songs at 16 is insane!!!
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 this has more variation than the new stuff I mostly listen to groove metal now because it makes head bang most bands are so chaotic not and not head bangable
@@aaronmichaelbrown6115 would you consider this a metalcore album? I’m hearing some progressive elements to it as well, what’s your take on what genre this would fit best under?
A-71 Lyrics:
How low can you go?
Second Skin Lyrics:
I have come broken beyond repair
This skin is torn & is bearing flesh
Of everything that I used to be
Some say I'm a chameleon, some say I'm a thief
These words mean nothing
My throne is out of reach
Man & beast alike we all share the same fate
My arms are open, but this heart is crushed
I've let in the enemy & grown so fond of your touch
I will still remain for you to see these battle scars of everyday life
I have come to purge this world of your disease
I'll wait here for you, just for you to realize what you have done
Only for you to realize what you have done
Welcome to the dawning of the age of the elite
The weak are left alone to rot, forever strong we will be
Betrayal is the only thing that sits on my mind
I'm waiting for the day it comes to leave the world behind
Open your arms, welcome the end
My arms are open but this heart is crushed
I have let in the enemy & have grown so fond of your touch
I will still remain for you to see these battle scars of everyday life
Every word we speak is where we learn to fight
We will remain as one
Infection Lyrics:
Welcome, to the age of modern man
I pray for the worst so that we all may go home forever
Hold on, this gonna be a bumpy ride
Child there's no time to rest your head
There will be time to rest when you're dead
Mechanized death driven, peace keepers flood these streets
Bearing flame spewing weaponry
Homes smolder in ashes, the foundation of man is crumbling
Wounded crawl for salvation, missing limbs have gone astray
The dead lay flaking into open air, decomposing & festering in infection
They are airborne now [2x]
Where have we gone wrong, this is a story for the ages
My legs tremble at the thought of tomorrow, for we may not see the day
World leaders corrupt television, & our media
Many scan the radio waves helplessly, for a safe haven
But all there is are snow blind dying frequencies
There is no one to save us
Rebels spark Molotov's
Casting them into the open streets
Flooded with the darkest of opposition
Forward through the flames
Continuing the crusade of the free
A rise to power requires sacrifice
These hands were made to dismember & maim all who stand against me
Fighting through legions of the damned, all will die by my hands
Where have we gone wrong, this is a story for the ages
Fighting this endless war, the time has come to settle the score
Now join & endure, let's show them what we got
Where There’s Ruin Lyrics:
Words could never describe
This feeling of worthlessness and failure, always in the back of my head
These eyes tell the tale of what it is to dream, a constant screaming
Echoing an unforgiving reminder or why you fear to try
With all things set aside please show me that there's so much more to life
I've witnessed monuments fall, i've seen fields of the dead
Whereas define retribution our fingers point to the end
In act of desperation, we believe in all we see
Lost prophets point the way crawling on hand and knee
Miles and miles i have come to far
Just turn my back and question who we really are
Miles and miles pushing onward through the dark
Tribulations and travesties will set the boys and men apart
I won't give in (4x)
For all the countless times i've prayed not to see your face
We've crossed paths yet again its time to put you in your place
I've shown you love when all have thrown you away
Take in your final breathe behold this man made judgement day
I forget where your purpose lies, you've accomplished to fail miserably without putting in the time
Passing judgement on all i know, forgetting what is right and letting you go
The Alliance Lyrics:
There's been a constant battle that's been raging for centuries
I fear it will never end
Ork & man meet face to face
This a battle for the dominant race
Arrows arise in a mass & block out the sun
You are not friend, but foe, forever my nemesis
Soldiers hold fast to their mounts hands are clenched awaiting the fight
I am the leader, we are the army of the light
We have been sent from a higher power, prepare to face defeat
When will you realize that your God is no greater than I?
Lay down your arms, place your hands towards the sky
There comes a point in time when you must see the end
There comes a point in time where you must see your obsolete
The time has come to face the end
Swords are exchanged at the sound of a horn
The dead drift out to sea their blood remain ashore
[2x]
We are the end
What do we keep fighting for I have never (never felt so cold)
Felt so cold inside it's days like this (I feel so far away)
I feel so far away & all that's left (is the thought of not)
Is the thought of never coming home
Never coming home again (never coming home)
This is fucking amazing I've listened to Lorna Shore for quite a while but I just didn't go that far back in their EPs....Such Mistake
Crazy to know the only cleans from Lorna is a 15second bit at the end of an EP they dissociate with
why do they dissociate from it
@@hipyhippo3829 not sure. It was prolly just some work they did as an undercover band.
Then they realized they had some potential and took on a more commercial and serious role
@@dlrsnate5100 nah, they were deff playing a lot of shows with this material until progressing onto the next works. Speaking from experience.
Lots of tri states shows
@@rickymaiola4769 I’m not surprised they don’t claim this but also wish they did mention it in an interview.
The fact that this isn't on iTunes anymore makes me so sad.
This is pretty awesome. Also, is that Tom doing the cleans at the end of The Alliance? Because damn, they sound pretty good.
yeah tom sings on all of it
kinda reminds me of the first structures ep - really dig the sound
My first thought exactly. gonna go listen to Transitions now
That EP was the only good thing Structures ever did
departure still Amps me up
@@dlrsnate5100 Ahahaha I know exactly what you mean
@@dlrsnate5100 did you miss their 2021 EP because that shit was absolute heat
this is just great
Very underrated band
@huiefsdfj 3 years ago when this person commented they definitely were. but now they are the face of deathcore
Vocals were always fucking devastating
Anyone else here after listening to Pain Remains?
Yes. Time travel.
This is very good.
From 16:49 on it was awesome
This is lowkey better than the releases with CJ and Will Ramos...
no way
@@lopzidae I guess we see it differently.
Myspace Deathcore > Modern Deathcore
i agree, tom's era was the real shit
@@ThatShitGood Yes
The ending of Where There's Ruin was fucking insane
I keep seeing a lot of people saying that no one from this recording is currently in the band, but I thought Adam acknowledged in an interview that he was on this? Did they not have 3 guitarists? The stuff they do now definitely needs 3 actually, funny enough…
If that is indeed the case, it’s hilarious that Tom went on to replace Alex in Chelsea Grin, since Alex was the only original member left!
12 years later they wrote the best deathcore album ….. ever …… 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
They wrote The Ills of Modern Man??
They wrote Odyssey to the West?
@@ryandicksen8377 insanely good album but i feel that album was just decapitated worship , The Pain Remains has its own sound
@@thisisnotmyrealname6990 idk about the vox man i can see why jason richardson didnt want his name in that project
And when i say the best deathcore album i truly mean the best deathcore album , the most sales , the most appeal , the chance too have its legacy kept intact and alive. Which is what makes it truly the best , immortality
damn they used to be metalcore? haha wow
Melodic Deathcore fits more
@@xnevertrytocorner293 No this is definitely metalcore. There are deathcore leanings at times but this is mostly a metalcore album.
@@KevinTheMetalhead it’s melodic deathcore
@@MyOwnSummer_ melodic deathcore ur mom
@@MyOwnSummer_ stfu deathcore fangay, its metalcore
THIS is lorna shore! not whatever the fuck we got now. okay? thank you
what did we get
@@AltairStair bullshit with gimmicky vocal shit. No Tom. And overproduced garbage
@@AltairStair symphonic garbage
Copium.
Cope
back when they weren't a garbage symphonic djentcore band
I miss Tom being vocalist … he better then wil and cj too me
OG tom was the best. His vocals in chelsea grin arent the same. Darko is pretty good tho
Why are y'all tryin to say this isn't tom?!?
anyone know what A71 means?
The alliance was pretty sweet, i didnt like the other songs though
how could you not love A71
Lorna Shore is mid since 2018
New Jersey sucks!!! I am a New Yorker.............actually I am from North Dakota. LOL
alright then?...
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It was a joke. I love Lorna shore.
nwalters7 Well, I don't get it, but if you say so.
wtf