@@Mr.RichardLevine4th I forget, which one is the rainbow giraffe? And when you and your "friends" get together, do you guys also obsess over Kim Jong Un? Or are you guys more into Rachel when you guys are sitting in a circle?
To answer simply, “sufficient evidence.” But that’s a dumb question to ask. If the prosecutor walks up to the jury and asks, “What would convince you that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?” then you know their case is going poorly.
And if god exists, he knows, but doesn’t do it. Instead, he sent minions to try to convert me knowing they won’t convince me. I deduce that either god is fine with me not believing, or he doesn’t exists. In both cases, it’s better to be atheist
@@quentind1924 The thing is, God doesnt HAVE to personally convince you. Logically, he would know exactly which minion to send to convince you without the bullshit of 'free will' getting in the way.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Ah yes, I am convinced! Praise be to Qlipoth the Preservation and THEIR awe inspiring creations, the Celestial Comet Wall, the Subspace Crystalline Barrier, and the Great Attractor Base! Now everyone go build a wall and join the IPC. They've got Topaz and Aventurine as perfect thirst traps.
If you believe in God and you believe God gives you free choice you believe God gives you the choice to reject .. atheism is a disbelief in God it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God. Evidence shows us that the belief in God is an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion. Whereas the belief the origins of Life came into existence without God Is not an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion. Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God if so please provide evidence to why you believe that. And if I'm not convinced in return I will provide evidence to why I believe in God and we can see which one is more logical. PS I never give evidence to why I believe in God on an atheist thread and to atheist first for obvious reasons because atheists don't have the willingness or ability to accept God.. but if an atheist provides evidence to why they believe the origins of Life came into existence without God and I'm not convinced in return I will provide the evidence to why I believe in God just so we can see which one is more logical. PSS if I get typical atheist answers I'm just going to give a response with the same amount of evidence to justify my belief as they gave for theres.
Xtians: EVERYTHING and EVERYONE needs a "creator" Xtians: EXCEPT, our personal invisible sky daddy is MAGICALLY EXEMPT from the laws of Physics or Chemistry or Biology. He can do MAGIC TRICKS. . LOLZ
Xgender atheist humanist, firstly who is XTians? I'm assuming you're using x as unknown. So if this is the case what is an unknown tian's? And if there are unknown to you how do you know what they believe. Anyway who are these Xtians that say everyone and everything needs a creator ? Also if you believe in God the creator of the origins of life you believe God is a being not a thing. I'm a Christian and I believe as the Christians I know of believe that God is eternal and also not a thing.. we also believe that mass and energy are eternal in one form or another.. and God used the materials around to create life just like artists use the material around them to create. XTrans atheist humanist Richard Dawkins said he believes everything came from nothingness and then from nothingness a magical sky mommy singularity popped into existence and then magically became everything.. which of course goes against the first law of thermodynamics which is mass and energy cannot be created or destroyed. All these XTrans atheists were calling him a genius because of his magical sky Mommy that popped into existence magically from nothingness.
@@Mr.RichardLevine4th "I'm a Christian and I believe as the Christians I know of believe that God is eternal" You have no evidence of this Invisible Sky Daddy. How the eff do you know this being is a HE and "eternal" You can BELIEVE any bull sh1t you want ... or read in a book. WE need EVIDENCE. LOLZ
@@sanjeevgig8918 If only bluff and bluster were evidence apologists would be home and dry. It's not as if it's a difficult concept to grasp. Atheists reject the Biblical god for exactly the same reasons; and in exactly the same manner that Christians reject Zeus, Odin and thousands of other gods...they are all, very clearly, man-made ancient myths. Talk about not being able to smell your own farts.
Really? The Christian God has been manifesting Himself by providing us miracles practically every generation: 1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531 2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971 3) Shroud of Turin 4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016 5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006 ... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not. Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
How do you feel about a speck of an inanimate object having more power than all human life and human creations ever existed and a billion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and multiply that to the billionth power then multiply that again with a trillion then double that and multiply it to its quadrillion times and then multiply again by a zillion times and then double it again then double it again by a zillion and it still wouldn’t even come remotely close even if you multiplied it by how long this universe existed, to how much a tiny, tiny speck of a speck of a sun ray can destroy your whole existence a zillion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again multiplied by a zillion times and another zillion times and again and again So much inanimate power out in the universe a human life cannot imagine nor phantom the true ultimate greater power that exists and we cry over debunking this and that but don’t realize that we all are miracles in this wretched planet because we should not even exist. What makes us so special to exist in this violent universe? Why do we deserve to be here? We shouldn’t be here. It’s like playing a game of poker and every hand you get is a royal flush. Don’t fool yourself. We are just an image of something greater than ourselves. We may exist for now but the heavens above us into the universe will live on forever and ever long after we have perished and so it shall begin again…
Wrong. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn.
@@neverendingparty4832 Thank you for admitting that the creator gods that existed long before Jesus are the true gods because they created everything, including your god and Jesus.
@@neverendingparty4832 Infinities can have a beginning, one example is all whole numbers. Therefore, your infinite gh0d could have indeed been created. You are refuted.
@@neverendingparty4832 Science doesn't claim that the universe had a beginning; only that it can be traced back to a possible singularity 13.8 billion years ago. What came 'before' that singularity or even whether it actually reached that singularity is still an open question. It is entirely likely that the universe simply 'is'...and has always been. Tracing back towards a state of infinite density does not mean that such a state is actually reached...any more than a curve tending towards zero actually reaches zero. If it did, the entire curve would collapse.
"First is the argument from incredulity. The logically invalid assumption that a proposition must be false because it contradicts your personal expectations or beliefs or it is difficult for you to imagine. Then there is the argument from ignorance fallacy where you assume that your position is true because it hasn't been or cannot be proven false or that a opposing position is false because it hasn't been or cannot be proven true. Then there's the question begging fallacy which is ubiquitous throughout yours and every other godmatic religion. It's the circular argument routing back to the assumed conclusion. You won't let the facts lead you anywhere but where you already want to go and you won't even acknowledge any fact that you don't think you can twist to fit your desired conclusion. These three fallacies combined become the god of the gaps fallacy." Aron Ra
@@JimCastleberry I'm gonna copy another comment (by Leith_Crowther), but "if the prosecutor walks up to the jury and asks, “What would convince you that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?” then you know their case is going poorly." If you really had evidence, you would present the evidence and not ask that question
@@quentind1924 It's so ridiculous that they ask this question as if they had a plethora of evidence but it's just that it's so much, they have to filter it out.
@@quentind1924 You need to prove your false claim that the case is going poorly. Your marginal position has always been marginal and losing around the world - and clearly not winning.
@@JimCastleberry I'm not gonna play the game of proving literally everything i say (do i need to prove this too ?), that's just common sense that the prosecutor saying "what evidence do you need" isn't a good sign Also "Your marginal position has always been marginal and losing around the world - and clearly not winning." is appeal to popularity, which is a fallacy
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says." 28.08.18
What evidence would convince you there is a creator? Hard to say what would compel me to believe something I currently don't, but I'll go out on a limb as say, an actual creator. Somehow it can create an entire multidimensional reality, but has a hard time introducing itself.
@@somersetcace1 I know of no Christian that makes such a silly comment. I have been a Christian for most of my life, and it has not been due to indoctrination, but a revelation of the truth of the Gospel and all the evidence I am aware of of an Intelligent Designer, which makes perfect sense.
@Richard-GaryButler why would " an intelligent designer" design man with all his most vulnerable bits , outside the body ? Nothing intelligent about that . And what is the point of parasitic burrowing worms and monstrous flesh eating microbes ? If he " designed" those , he is beyond being a sadistic maniac . I want nothing to do with him . And why is it " a him"? See it for what it is ,it is a patriarchal, do what l say and not what l do , movement.
The scientific, evidence-based argument for life is that simple chemical reactions, driven by energy input from both the sun and geothermal forces were, over a vast period of time; and facilitated by countless billions of random iterations, gradually succeeded by more complex organic then biological reactions, eventually leading to evolution as we know it. The theistic argument is that dirt was magicked into a fully-formed modern human.
Yup! There's an interesting TED talk: Martin Hanczyc: The line between life and not-life, here on YT in which he not only describes but actually demonstrates simple chemicals exhibiting lifelike behaviour, up to and including seeking out nutrients and even self-replication. He begins with a quote from a century ago, which states that the first stages in the development of life would likely not even be recognised as such. The journey towards life as we know it had to start somewhere...and it wasn't with dirt being magicked into a modern human.
You know this MattWhite guy replying in this comments? He deleted his comment to hide his embarrassment after realizing (thanks to me!) that he actually does not understand what he was saying. Looking forward to YOUR turn...
@@coveux8335 Stop lying for Jesus and troIIing the comments section. Just provide evidence for this god you claim performs miracles. Have you been nominated for a Nobel prize yet for providing proof that the supernatural realm exists beyond physical reality?
How do you feel about a speck of an inanimate object having more power than all human life and human creations ever existed and a billion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and multiply that to the billionth power then multiply that again with a trillion then double that and multiply it to its quadrillion times and then multiply again by a zillion times and then double it again then double it again by a zillion and it still wouldn’t even come remotely close even if you multiplied it by how long this universe existed, to how much a tiny, tiny speck of a speck of a sun ray can destroy your whole existence a zillion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again multiplied by a zillion times and another zillion times and again and again So much inanimate power out in the universe a human life cannot imagine nor phantom the true ultimate greater power that exists and we cry over debunking this and that but don’t realize that we all are miracles in this wretched planet because we should not even exist. What makes us so special to exist in this violent universe? Why do we deserve to be here? We shouldn’t be here. It’s like playing a game of poker and every hand you get is a royal flush. Don’t fool yourself. We are just an image of something greater than ourselves. We may exist for now but the heavens above us into the universe will live on forever and ever long after we have perished and so it shall begin again…
Nobody cares if some obstinate atheist idiot refuses to be convinced. That's your deficiency and your problem. I just enjoy exposing the fact that none of you ignorant dopes can even competently engage the evidence and arguments that reasonable people recognize. You can choose to deny the evidence that the Earth is round or Elvis is dead, or the moon landing. Any idiot can deny anything. Idiocy is just your style, but not evidence for your position.
@@SundaeRoast What's the chance that he would get up the balls to actually confront real atheists in my live stream instead of playing pretend that his gibberish here convinces anyone?
What would you convince of something you don't know anything about? How should you know what would be sufficent evidence beforhand or what kinds of possible evidence actually exist? What would convince you of black holes, if you know nothing of them? Showing you one? Well, that wouldn't really work. It is simply dishonest to put the burden on the non-believer to specify the evidence beforehand. If you have sufficent evidence, you don't need to do that. My chemistry teacher never asked me, "what would convince you that redox reactions exist?" He showed me evidence. But we all know why theists do this, so they can claim that their god doesn't do this kind of evidence, because reasons... It's just dishonesty.
Problems with "fine tuning" 1) How can constants be different and not a fundamental attribute of reality? 2) How can constants be set/tuned? 3) What proof is there that an agency is required if the above is possible? 4) What proof is there that only one specific set of constants are needed for life? 5) Why is the set of constants for our universe so bad at universally producing life?
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says." 28.08.18
Hey there, SundaeExpress. GOD has shown His face in Jesus, the Son of God :) . "For God so loved the World, He gave His Only Begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish, but have everlasting life."
We are not capable of seeing our creator. It’s like expecting a character in a computer game to understand who we are. He is just doing what he is programmed to do. That’s my idea of the Universe, we live in a simulation.
The evidence required for a claim depends on the strength of the claim. If someone says, "who knows, maybe some entity created all of this", not much evidence is required. But if someone claims that it absolutely necessarily has to be the case, the evidence would have to be undisputed facts from which it unambiguously logically follows that a God created all of this.
@@amtlpaul That's right. RUN. Because you realized yourself you don't understand what you are even saying at all. Drop your "intellectual facade". Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional. You just hate God. No logic. Just hate.
He wants to send us to hell just because we can't believe and accept him. He wants to let my best friend burn in hell and also good atheist people! That's crazy! Ik theists will probably say we have chosen to go to hell, but fuck no, no one will really choose to burn in hell forever. We were made like this. There is no real evicence! We can't just believe and have faith in something with no real evidence. They are fucked up/stupid if they truly think that's fair.
Jimedith 'You're Lying' Castleberry also brings Christianity into disrepute with their intellectual dishonesty and cowardice as reflected by their constant deflections of critical scrutiny and their canned and spammed tirades.
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says." 28.08.18
@@RickLambert963 I can't find any definitions on google about what gatheists are. So either 1) you did multiple times the same spelling mistake on that comment, 2) you're inventing a word (and then we can simply answer that we aren't gatheists by your definition) or 3) you're trying to make a word (or a group of words) sound stupid to try to gain points (which is a sophism). Pick your poison
Dear trolls: Is your constant spamming a coping mechanism for the fact that your kids dropped you in the crappiest nursing home in the country, and that they've never called in 7 years? Or are you just horrible people?
Be happy the show is reaching the people it needs to reach. It may not change their minds, but if it makes them feel kind of bad for a little while then that’s the next best thing.
A neighbour whose now deceased father was a Pentecostal Christian told me that on the previous Sunday he witnessed a miracle. Two 9 year old twin boys had been blind since birth; a number of church people stood around them in a circle and with clasped hands prayed earnestly to God and they were instantly cured. The boys were examined by doctors who were astounded as it was impossible, because they didn't have whatever it is that eyes need to function. But God had answered the prayers. Three weeks later the same man told me that on the prior Sunday two twin 9 year old boys who had been deaf from birth were prayed over by the same circle of church members holding hands. They boys were cured and could hear for the fist time. The boys didn't have the necessary bits to make hearing possible. The boys were taken to doctors, the top specialists, who were astounded as it was an impossible thing to happen, yet it did. Similar scenarios, two-twin 9 year old boys, same church, same church-goers praying ... all too fantastic and specific to be true. It is a small town where I live and I have never seen any twin boys here, deaf blind or whatever. I had heard similar stories throughout my 77 years yet despite being a regular church-attender up until 19 I never saw any miracles ... and we had people in our church who could have benefitted from some divine assistance but never received it. This man lied to me twice. Christians will lie to you (lies and fraud are okay if it benefits God or the church, I have been told ... and this man told me that, too). Every time you listen to someone in the pulpit speak you will hear lies ... because the whole Christian religion ... all three Abrahamic religions ... are based on and supported by lies. People who lie to you don't respect you. Don't listen to them ... don't allow it.
I know there are trolls here who love authoritarianism. They love the idea of exercising authority over others by proxy. But we are not accountable to you! We don't owe you our credulity. We don't even owe you a respectful hearing. And the things you say, far from making a reasonable case that we should give you a respectful hearing, make the case that the opposite is true.
Brave words. Don't worry... all will be revealed in time (and beyond). Just so you know, even Jesus told of a story where He shut the door on a group of women and told them coldly, "I do not know you".
@@coveux8335 No it won't. There is no evidence that anything exists beyond death. As the Greeks maintained 2500 years ago "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after you die is either a liar or a fool." Which one are you? When you die, you'll simply cease to exist...like every other living thing on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years. Maybe you should find something more useful to do with what time you've got left other than troIIing CZcams videos and believing in superstitious nonsense.
@@coveux8335 There is no evidence that anything will be revealed. When you die you simply cease to exist...just like every other living thing on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years. Just like you didn't exist before you were conceived. It's about time you grew up and accepted the fact instead of indulging in infantile fantasies about some everlasting post-life party. As the Greeks said 2500 years ago "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after you die is either a liar or a fool."
@@coveux8335 Do you have any evidence that all will be revealed? As the Ancient Greeks said "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after death is either a liar or a fool." Your choice. There is absolutely no evidence of any kind of afterlife; and frankly, if looked at critically instead of like a little kid looking forward to a party, it could be a terrifying experience, from which there would be no escape. Face it like a man; when you die you cease to exist...like everything else on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years.
@@coveux8335 Do you have any evidence that all will be revealed? The Ancient Greeks had a very pragmatic approach; and regarded anyone who claimed to know what happened after death as either a liar or a fool. Some people just aren't mature enough to accept the fact that when they die they'll simply cease to exist...like everything else on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years.
"What evidence would convince you that there's a creator?" Ultimately, this is a dishonest and a useless question. IF you say "I don't know", the Xtian excuse-makers whine that we should know. IF you say "god should know", the Xtian excuse-makers whine that their god has already given you the evidence. IF you propose a test scenario, the Xtian excuse-makers whine that their god is not a genie and not available-on-demand. LOLZ
XTrans atheist humanist what is an Xtians ? Please don't tell me you're using x as unknown. Because you seem to be making a lot of claims about knowing so much about these unknown tian's. I have to disagree with these unknown tian's . I find if I ask an XTrans atheist humanist if they believe the origins of Life came into existence without God they usually don't believe that. Which is kind of weird because they don't have the willingness or ability to accept God.. and then they have this burden of proof mixed up in their head, they think somebody who says they believe in God has to convince them of something they don't have the willingness or ability to accept as true or they didn't reach their burden of proof LOL They don't realize that burden of proof is to the claim so unless somebody says they can convince someone of something why would it be their burden of proof. On top of that how the hell are you going to convince someone of something they don't have the willingness or ability to accept. It's disingenuous for an atheist to ask for evidence for something that they wouldn't or couldn't accept as true even if it was proven by the scientific method. By the way in your other post you seem equally confused, most people who believe in God don't believe God is a thing they believe God is a being.. Do you think it might be the case that you don't comprehend as much as you think you do. By the way do you believe the origins of life came into existence without creation, without God? If so please provide evidence to why you believe that. And if I'm not convinced in return I will provide evidence to why I believe in God so we can see which one is more logical. If you don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God just say the words I don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. Is that your position you should have no problem saying that unless you have a bias. What do you think about xtrans atheist humanist Richard Dawkins and all the x-trans atheist humanist that believe he's a genius because he believes in a magical sky mommy singularity that popped into existence from nothingness, no air no space nothingness. Which of course goes against the first law of thermodynamics , energy and mass cannot be created or destroyed. I believe in the eternal being God who created the origins of life and use the materials around like mass and energy to create like an artist uses the materials around him to create. Let me guess you're not going to tell me anything that you believe you're just going to tell me about what you don't believe because you don't have the willingness or ability to accept .
@@vertigo4236 Radio waves are detectable they are also demonstrable. Amplification of sight and sound are still being detected by our senses. You can not detect a god that exists purely in you imagination. Your argument is a waste of breath. Science is our extra sense of sorts. Missing the point is very typical of an indoctrinated person. We all know about radio waves. We listen to the broadcasts all day long. I still only have those five senses but somehow I have come to know that radio waves are real. What the f is your point? Did you learn about radio wave trough prayer? What a pointless question. omg read a book.
Good lawd son! Are you really that dense? You expect physical senses to detect the non-physical? What's your excuse? Do you expect a smoke detector to detect intentions and ideas? Damn son.
@@JimCastleberry Well tell me how you know god is real without making up a bunch of fake reasons to believe in it. Arrogant self righteous insecurity is your motivator. God gave me no sense of it's existence, and then said I would burn in hell if I didn't tell other people that I believe it's real. Your comment is beyond stupid and passive aggressive. When your unverifiable assertions are not accepted by thinking people you lash out at them with Hyperbole and vicious intent. Your belief in the monster god is reprehensible and I cherish the fact that the world is finally moving on from that ancient voodoo witchcraft you call religion. So in closing, I would say that you are the dense person in this chat.
@@davidbelway6076 Jim is saying that there's NO way to physically detect his god. So it has NO impact in our reality. It can't tell you anything, because that would affect the air molecules. It can't grant you any prayers, since that would require something to happen in the real world, which can be detected. You obviously can't see it. Basically, his god does NOT exist in our world. According to Jim.
Apparently for some people, their "evidence" for the existence of god is... things are alive.🤦♂ I guess we add that to the list of "evidence". Trees, entropy, things die, people have sense of right and wrong, and things are alive.
"Look at the tree in front of you. Are you actually looking at the tree or is thought looking at it ?"" "When you look at a tree your mind is already active: 'It's an oak tree; I like it, it's old, it's young,' and so on - so you are not looking at all.'" J. Krishnamurti
Yes, that's one proof of many. LIFE can only come from LIFE. INTELLIGENCE can only come from INTELLIGENCE. LOVE can only come from LOVE. CONSCIOUSNESS can only come from CONSCIOUSNESS. MORALITY can only come from MORALITY. Not only that, but the CAUSE/SOURCE is required to have the MEANS to give us these attributes. Christianity has all the important answers, while atheism has NONE, as I continue to prove. The "false answer," as I have proved for 50 yrs, is atheism. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn. Atheism debunked.
Some people like to argue it's not logical to believe your mother was the result of another life ,the result of an intelligence source because you didn't witness it so it's just as likely your mother popped into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence.
"Does it mean, if you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of the things in the past that the physicists-at the time-didn’t understand … [but now we do understand.] If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller, as time moves on. So just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem. That’s simply the “God of the Gaps” argument that’s been around for ever." -Neil DeGrasse Tyson. "The good thing about Science is that it’s true, whether or not you believe in it." -Neil deGrasse Tyson
And that's why Neil is a useful idiot to the atheist community: If you see him, ask him this: "Neil, if you're so confident that science will eventually explain everything, can you provide a timeline for when we'll understand dark matter, the purpose of dreaming, or the fine-tuning of the universe? Until then, isn't it just as speculative to assume science will fill these gaps as it is to invoke God? Can you provide a scientific explanation for the origin of consciousness and moral laws that are universally recognized? If science is supposed to explain everything, why do we still have fundamental questions about existence and purpose that remain unanswered? "
@@joshsheridan9511 Throwing in a bunch of laughing emojis doesn't actually dispute the fine-tuning argument. It just shows you like to laugh. Care to provide a real counter-argument or evidence against it?
@@joshsheridan9511 Claiming that the fine-tuning argument is just a misrepresentation of facts without providing any evidence or logical refutation is not a valid counter-argument. Care to back up your claim with some actual evidence? Can you explain how the precise values of physical constants necessary for life could occur by chance without invoking the multiverse hypothesis, which itself lacks empirical evidence?
Virtual particles are verified as actual matter and they produce a measurable force known as the Casimir effect. However, they are not examples of creation. They are examples of conversion. They manifest out of vacuum energy, increasing the vacuum, and then instantly convert back into energy.
Most of us don't know what would convince us. We don't pretend to know the unknowable. We are honest about it, and that is what you lot find unreasonable.
1: Cult leaders exists (how do you explain other religions otherwise ?), so any evidence that cannot be made up by a cult leader (and by my own hallucinations/dreams/other things like that) would do the job 2: Sorry for not wanting to fall into a cult because my standard is too low
Most atheists have the same standards of evidence that I as an agnostic pantheist have. Creationist theists however keep trying to lower the bar in theirs while raising it for others.
None, especially if this creator thing is a male and requires me to worship and pray to it. Sorry, would rather be out in the garden or walking the dog. And a good Saturday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️
@@smochygrice465 I've got a fishtank to finish the "scape" on today - at least enough to get it filled and running, so that I can move some fish over that are currently in a WAY too small tank. That should be fun. 😁
If atheists are such joyful people enjoying their day why do they have such a high mental illness and suicide rates. I mean I wouldn't call the idea of living under the Godless atheistic humanist Utopia of North Korea as having a good time unless you consider being starved to the point you're 3 inches shorter than your genetic counterpart in South Korea due to malnourishment as having a good time I would have to disagree
Planets can only come from planets. Stars can only come from stars. Cars can only come from cars. Hate can only come from hate. Jesus can only come from Jesus. Oh, look. Apparently just making jingoistic claim says nothing about the validity!
@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor Wow. You're really dumb. Our INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD is not a created being. His DYING CREATION is a created being (FINITE NATURE: time/space/matter/energy) that had a beginning, an eventual heat death end and thus, a BEGINNER/CREATOR/INFINITE CAUSE/SOURCE. Not only have I proved all atheist ideas are IMPOSSIBLE, DEBUNKED and NEVER OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution), but I proved God is a necessary reality. Like it or not, there is no POSSIBILITY that basic nature produced the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). Atheism debunked.
@@Beacon80 There is no counter to my IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Planets or anything of FINITE NATURE cannot be the cause of anything. I'm an expert on the scientific method that debunks all atheist ideas by the fact that all atheist ideas can never be tested, measured or observed because they don't exist/can't exist. Atheism is a stone cold DEAD END, as I continue to prove by fact after fact.
I would have to see a request/prayer to a deity cause something to happen, ideally something miraculous like bring back somebody who was very obviously dead or ,make a mountain or a building appear spontaneously.
Hell I'm not even as demanding, he could just fix all of the problems that I have (physical) without me having to do anything. But he also has to meet the deadline. He's got about 10 minutes.
Quantum particles have their own laws of physics, we don't see common particles or people blinking in and out of existence! Which I suppose such a thing would help as evidence, if a naked man and naked woman suddenly blinked into existence in front of me! But so far > that's never happened!
@@RickLambert963 The question of whether mathematics was CREATED or DISCOVERED is a subject of casual speculation among mathematicians. That is, we don't take it particularly seriously but it's fun to think about. Mathematics is essentially a hierarchy of theorems and the proofs by which they are derived from a small set of foundational axioms. Proofs are expressed as a finite series of conceptual steps. But not every finite series of conceptual steps is a correct proof. So, while we can, in principle, imagine all possible combinations of such steps lying around in conceptual space, waiting for proofs to be DISCOVERED among them, the process of validating any one of them requires someone to construct the necessary hierarchy of derivations to show that the given candidate is in fact a correct proof. And this is a purely CREATIVE act from the axioms onward.
If I could ask one thing of God or a Genie, would be to end menstration and menstrual cramps in all woman without effecting their fertility or pregnancies. For me an instant change like this that affects everyone would be about the only proof that I would accept. Even then it wouldn’t be the God of the Bible or other current religion.
It would be easy to change my non belief if the creator would only show "himself" but none of the many hundreds of creators conjured by the mind of man have even done that. Conclusion: they are all figments of imagination - I rather like my beliefs supported by rational truth.
Seeing God face-to-face is a privilege. Not a right. But He does understand your need for proof. So provides these miracles practically every generation: 1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531 2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971 3) Shroud of Turin 4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016 5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006 ... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not. Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
Before Christian/Catholic principles were established in western cultures. The average Atheist behaved and conducted himself the same as those in indigenous tribes. With the principles already established, atheist developed a delusion that a human doesn’t need religion to be principled, morally oriented, law abiding and respectful 😂.
Inference and assertions are not evidence - creationists offer nothing else. (Aren't ALL god believers simply creationists of one stripe or another? Even the believer who accepts the fact of evolution, is still certain that the entire purpose of evolution was to create THEM - the pinnacle of "god's plan" and the entire purpose and focus of the universe AND the eternal god.) One has a fair expectation for AT LEAST the same degree of evidence that creationists demand for facts that DON"T require a belief in the supernatural. More than this, one has a fair expectation that if a person is going to claim that their god is the god of creation, that person is obliged to FIRST convince the rest of the religious people on the planet to accept THEIR god, THEIR dogma, and THEIR mythology, before having the arrogance to expect a non-believer to accept their gods over everyone else's. In the end, though, the MOST unlikely answer of all to the great questions of existence is one whose central concept ("god/gods") has no understood or agreed meaning among the billions who claim god beliefs; whose untold thousands of iterations are so improbable, so wildly contradictory, and so equally without evidence, that none can be believed; and that offers no consistency or predictability whatsoever in answer to anything.
Saying you don't understand what created the universe so it must be god is just an assumption based on no evidence whatsoever. I don't know if there is or isn't an intelligent creator but if it turns out there is religion still has all its work cut out to prove that the creator cares while at the same time looking after the vastness of the universe cares whether someone sins or not . Something from nothing yes is unfathomable but then so is imagining something that has been there forever with no beginning or end.
Gonna take a sentimental journey Gonna set my heart at ease Gonna take a sentimental journey To renew old memories of when we were free from lgbtq tyranny
@@coveux8335 I'm agnostic pantheist. By "eucharistic miracles" do you mean events claimed as such but not only not proven as divine miracles but also explicable by non divine means? Such as the alleged shroud?
@@coveux8335 One possible explanation is deliberate hoax. I note that the evidence available is too inconclusive to affirm a supernatural occurrence. Remember the claim needs to be proven not disproven in order to be considered true.
@@nealjroberts4050 Of course... all Christians are LIARS right? That's ad hominem, btw. "Inconclusive" ? What do you mean? Are you saying that the material is not real human cardiac muscle and AB blood?
Should there be evidence we are not the Creator? I believe that is what law is for. Not to suggest that we aren’t Sovereign Life itself but to prove we are. That’s what I believe. What I know is that I am Christ, the resurrected life of Jesus. I don’t despise atheism because it serves the point that an individual LIFE is wholly sovereign itself. I believe this is God. The LIFE. Not anything else. If LIFE therefore is the proof of GOD, as I am suggesting it IS. Then you have proof, what you do with that proof determines your intellectual merit, nothing else.
The Bible is a living book. God reads you while your reading the Bible and you can actually feel this happening and the more you read the Bible then the more you feel Jesus Christ moving in your life. Who can begin to explain this but all Praise Goes to God Almighty!!! 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life ROMANS 10:13 For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
There are many truths in the universe that we could seek but we don't seek them because they don't matter to us. They have no bearing on how we live our lives. The fact that so many seek the truth of God's existence shows that we are not some impartial judges of truth. We are in search of our own happiness. To some people God is to be sought for He, if He exists, knows why we were created and what we are to do in this world. To other people, God is an obstacle to living the life they want to live which is independence. Saying that we seek evidence of God is a charade. We'll mold, slice, dice, spindle and mutilate evidence until it supports the decision we already made.
I wouldn't claim that god is an obstacle; more like a complete irrelevance. I don't shape my life around the notion that a god doesn't exist any more than I shape it around the notion that fairies don't exist.
@@jayrose8638 "Convincing reason" .. The Christian God has been manifesting Himself by providing us miracles practically every generation: 1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531 2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971 3) Shroud of Turin 4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016 5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006 ... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not. Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
“And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” Romans 1:28 Reprobate mind: unprincipled person, looks at everything with humor. Not a serious person.
Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
LIFE can only come from LIFE. INTELLIGENCE can only come from INTELLIGENCE. LOVE can only come from LOVE. CONSCIOUSNESS can only come from CONSCIOUSNESS. MORALITY can only come from MORALITY. Not only that, but the CAUSE/SOURCE is required to have the MEANS to give us these attributes. Christianity has all the important answers, while atheism has NONE, as I continue to prove. The "false answer," as I have proved for 50 yrs, is atheism. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn. Atheism debunked.
So where did god come from? If you say nothing, then it's possible for life to come from nothing, therefore, abiogenesis stands. Of course, abiogenesis does not state that life came from nothing. You don't understand what abiogenesis is. Also, why are you constantly harassing people here? Is it to cope with the fact that all your points have been debunked and that you're not as special as you say you are? Like it or not, you're an angry old man who's going to be dead in 20 years and nobody is going to show up to your funeral. Like it or not, nothing is going to happen to you after you die. You'll be lost to history, and that's heaven compared to what god has in store for you according to your holy book.
If life can only come from life, and love from love, consciousness only comes from consciousness, intelligence from intelligence, personality from personality, morality from morality, emotion from emotion, design from a Designer, creation from a Creator, then *What Designed and Created your "God" and gave it life, love, intelligence, personality, morality and emotion?*
@@Beacon80 Sorry dear, but you first have to bridge the IMPOSSIBILITY that LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY can be produced by basic nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing), which is CLEARLY & CERTAINLY A FIRM IMPOSSIBILITY. Atheism debunked. It's not even a conversation anymore.
Wrong. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn.
"my friend has no reason to lie".. and that right there, is why scammers are so successful.
Also, your friend can be wrong
@@LogicalKip Definitely. Or unknowingly spreading misinformation.
Scammers, and cult leaders*
@@quentind1924scammers and cult leaders, best describes the atheistic humanist left.
See Kim jong-un and Rachel Levine
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@@Mr.RichardLevine4th I forget, which one is the rainbow giraffe?
And when you and your "friends" get together, do you guys also obsess over Kim Jong Un? Or are you guys more into Rachel when you guys are sitting in a circle?
To answer simply, “sufficient evidence.” But that’s a dumb question to ask. If the prosecutor walks up to the jury and asks, “What would convince you that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?” then you know their case is going poorly.
What's it gonna take to put you behind the wheel of this fine automobile?
God would know what would convince me. If it doesn't, it's not a god.
And if god exists, he knows, but doesn’t do it. Instead, he sent minions to try to convert me knowing they won’t convince me. I deduce that either god is fine with me not believing, or he doesn’t exists. In both cases, it’s better to be atheist
@@quentind1924 The thing is, God doesnt HAVE to personally convince you. Logically, he would know exactly which minion to send to convince you without the bullshit of 'free will' getting in the way.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Ah yes, I am convinced! Praise be to Qlipoth the Preservation and THEIR awe inspiring creations, the Celestial Comet Wall, the Subspace Crystalline Barrier, and the Great Attractor Base! Now everyone go build a wall and join the IPC. They've got Topaz and Aventurine as perfect thirst traps.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED what creation?
If you believe in God and you believe God gives you free choice you believe God gives you the choice to reject .. atheism is a disbelief in God it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God.
Evidence shows us that the belief in God is an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion.
Whereas the belief the origins of Life came into existence without God Is not an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion.
Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God if so please provide evidence to why you believe that.
And if I'm not convinced in return I will provide evidence to why I believe in God and we can see which one is more logical.
PS I never give evidence to why I believe in God on an atheist thread and to atheist first for obvious reasons because atheists don't have the willingness or ability to accept God.. but if an atheist provides evidence to why they believe the origins of Life came into existence without God and I'm not convinced in return I will provide the evidence to why I believe in God just so we can see which one is more logical.
PSS if I get typical atheist answers I'm just going to give a response with the same amount of evidence to justify my belief as they gave for theres.
Xtians: EVERYTHING and EVERYONE needs a "creator"
Xtians: EXCEPT, our personal invisible sky daddy is MAGICALLY EXEMPT from the laws of Physics or Chemistry or Biology. He can do MAGIC TRICKS.
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LOLZ
Xgender atheist humanist, firstly who is XTians? I'm assuming you're using x as unknown. So if this is the case what is an unknown tian's? And if there are unknown to you how do you know what they believe.
Anyway who are these Xtians that say everyone and everything needs a creator ? Also if you believe in God the creator of the origins of life you believe God is a being not a thing.
I'm a Christian and I believe as the Christians I know of believe that God is eternal and also not a thing.. we also believe that mass and energy are eternal in one form or another.. and God used the materials around to create life just like artists use the material around them to create.
XTrans atheist humanist Richard Dawkins said he believes everything came from nothingness and then from nothingness a magical sky mommy singularity popped into existence and then magically became everything.. which of course goes against the first law of thermodynamics which is mass and energy cannot be created or destroyed. All these XTrans atheists were calling him a genius because of his magical sky Mommy that popped into existence magically from nothingness.
@@Mr.RichardLevine4th "I'm a Christian and I believe as the Christians I know of believe that God is eternal"
You have no evidence of this Invisible Sky Daddy.
How the eff do you know this being is a HE and "eternal"
You can BELIEVE any bull sh1t you want ... or read in a book.
WE need EVIDENCE.
LOLZ
@@sanjeevgig8918 If only bluff and bluster were evidence apologists would be home and dry. It's not as if it's a difficult concept to grasp. Atheists reject the Biblical god for exactly the same reasons; and in exactly the same manner that Christians reject Zeus, Odin and thousands of other gods...they are all, very clearly, man-made ancient myths. Talk about not being able to smell your own farts.
@@Mr.RichardLevine4th Are you trying to be smart and funny? Because you just look dumb and pathetic.
God makes the rules. Not man.
Angry much?
Christianity 💯% debunked by one word:
-- L O G I C --
Really? The Christian God has been manifesting Himself by providing us miracles practically every generation:
1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531
2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971
3) Shroud of Turin
4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016
5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006
... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not.
Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
Arrogance debunked by one word:
Reason.
Atheism debunked by one word - EVIDENCE
@@Richard-GaryButler Go on, then - show it to us
How do you feel about a speck of an inanimate object having more power than all human life and human creations ever existed and a billion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and multiply that to the billionth power then multiply that again with a trillion then double that and multiply it to its quadrillion times and then multiply again by a zillion times and then double it again then double it again by a zillion and it still wouldn’t even come remotely close even if you multiplied it by how long this universe existed, to how much a tiny, tiny speck of a speck of a sun ray can destroy your whole existence a zillion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again multiplied by a zillion times and another zillion times and again and again
So much inanimate power out in the universe a human life cannot imagine nor phantom the true ultimate greater power that exists and we cry over debunking this and that but don’t realize that we all are miracles in this wretched planet because we should not even exist. What makes us so special to exist in this violent universe? Why do we deserve to be here? We shouldn’t be here. It’s like playing a game of poker and every hand you get is a royal flush. Don’t fool yourself. We are just an image of something greater than ourselves. We may exist for now but the heavens above us into the universe will live on forever and ever long after we have perished and so it shall begin again…
Everything requires a cause? Then there can be no first cause!
Wrong. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn.
@@neverendingparty4832 Exactly! 👍.
@@neverendingparty4832 Thank you for admitting that the creator gods that existed long before Jesus are the true gods because they created everything, including your god and Jesus.
@@neverendingparty4832 Infinities can have a beginning, one example is all whole numbers. Therefore, your infinite gh0d could have indeed been created. You are refuted.
@@neverendingparty4832 Science doesn't claim that the universe had a beginning; only that it can be traced back to a possible singularity 13.8 billion years ago. What came 'before' that singularity or even whether it actually reached that singularity is still an open question. It is entirely likely that the universe simply 'is'...and has always been.
Tracing back towards a state of infinite density does not mean that such a state is actually reached...any more than a curve tending towards zero actually reaches zero. If it did, the entire curve would collapse.
"First is the argument from incredulity. The logically invalid assumption that a proposition must be false because it contradicts your personal expectations or beliefs or it is difficult for you to imagine.
Then there is the argument from ignorance fallacy where you assume that your position is true because it hasn't been or cannot be proven false or that a opposing position is false because it hasn't been or cannot be proven true.
Then there's the question begging fallacy which is ubiquitous throughout yours and every other godmatic religion. It's the circular argument routing back to the assumed conclusion. You won't let the facts lead you anywhere but where you already want to go and you won't even acknowledge any fact that you don't think you can twist to fit your desired conclusion.
These three fallacies combined become the god of the gaps fallacy." Aron Ra
Q:L What Evidence Would Convince You That There's A Creator? A: That is not how it works. Step up and produce evidence that gods exist.
You can't define what would be evidence, but you demand evidence?
Dishonest, lazy, weak.
@@JimCastleberry I'm gonna copy another comment (by Leith_Crowther), but "if the prosecutor walks up to the jury and asks, “What would convince you that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?” then you know their case is going poorly." If you really had evidence, you would present the evidence and not ask that question
@@quentind1924 It's so ridiculous that they ask this question as if they had a plethora of evidence but it's just that it's so much, they have to filter it out.
@@quentind1924 You need to prove your false claim that the case is going poorly.
Your marginal position has always been marginal and losing around the world - and clearly not winning.
@@JimCastleberry I'm not gonna play the game of proving literally everything i say (do i need to prove this too ?), that's just common sense that the prosecutor saying "what evidence do you need" isn't a good sign
Also "Your marginal position has always been marginal and losing around the world - and clearly not winning." is appeal to popularity, which is a fallacy
The Spamming Florida BJ is exceededingly good at reinforcing people's disdain for his religious assertions!
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says
A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says."
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What evidence would convince you there is a creator? Hard to say what would compel me to believe something I currently don't, but I'll go out on a limb as say, an actual creator. Somehow it can create an entire multidimensional reality, but has a hard time introducing itself.
God has already adequately introduced himself in all of the things he has created, so there is no excuse for not believing in him.
@@somersetcace1 I know of no Christian that makes such a silly comment. I have been a Christian for most of my life, and it has not been due to indoctrination, but a revelation of the truth of the Gospel and all the evidence I am aware of of an Intelligent Designer, which makes perfect sense.
@Richard-GaryButler why would " an intelligent designer"
design man with all his most vulnerable bits , outside the body ? Nothing intelligent about that . And what is the point of parasitic burrowing worms and monstrous flesh eating microbes ? If he
" designed" those , he is beyond being a sadistic maniac . I want nothing to do with him . And why is it " a him"? See it for what it is ,it is a patriarchal, do what l say and not what l do , movement.
"Life from life" is an inane slogan, not an argument.
The scientific, evidence-based argument for life is that simple chemical reactions, driven by energy input from both the sun and geothermal forces were, over a vast period of time; and facilitated by countless billions of random iterations, gradually succeeded by more complex organic then biological reactions, eventually leading to evolution as we know it.
The theistic argument is that dirt was magicked into a fully-formed modern human.
Yup! There's an interesting TED talk: Martin Hanczyc: The line between life and not-life, here on YT in which he not only describes but actually demonstrates simple chemicals exhibiting lifelike behaviour, up to and including seeking out nutrients and even self-replication. He begins with a quote from a century ago, which states that the first stages in the development of life would likely not even be recognised as such. The journey towards life as we know it had to start somewhere...and it wasn't with dirt being magicked into a modern human.
You know this MattWhite guy replying in this comments? He deleted his comment to hide his embarrassment after realizing (thanks to me!) that he actually does not understand what he was saying. Looking forward to YOUR turn...
@@coveux8335 Stop lying for Jesus and troIIing the comments section. Just provide evidence for this god you claim performs miracles. Have you been nominated for a Nobel prize yet for providing proof that the supernatural realm exists beyond physical reality?
How do you feel about a speck of an inanimate object having more power than all human life and human creations ever existed and a billion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again and multiply that to the billionth power then multiply that again with a trillion then double that and multiply it to its quadrillion times and then multiply again by a zillion times and then double it again then double it again by a zillion and it still wouldn’t even come remotely close even if you multiplied it by how long this universe existed, to how much a tiny, tiny speck of a speck of a sun ray can destroy your whole existence a zillion times over and over and over and over again and again and again and again multiplied by a zillion times and another zillion times and again and again
So much inanimate power out in the universe a human life cannot imagine nor phantom the true ultimate greater power that exists and we cry over debunking this and that but don’t realize that we all are miracles in this wretched planet because we should not even exist. What makes us so special to exist in this violent universe? Why do we deserve to be here? We shouldn’t be here. It’s like playing a game of poker and every hand you get is a royal flush. Don’t fool yourself. We are just an image of something greater than ourselves. We may exist for now but the heavens above us into the universe will live on forever and ever long after we have perished and so it shall begin again…
Anything besides hearsay!
My answer to what would convince you? What have you got and lets see if it's convincing
Nobody cares if some obstinate atheist idiot refuses to be convinced. That's your deficiency and your problem. I just enjoy exposing the fact that none of you ignorant dopes can even competently engage the evidence and arguments that reasonable people recognize.
You can choose to deny the evidence that the Earth is round or Elvis is dead, or the moon landing. Any idiot can deny anything. Idiocy is just your style, but not evidence for your position.
Good question, Josh 👍
@@JimCastleberry You sound sexually frustrated, Jim. Your sister out of town again?
@@SundaeRoast What's the chance that he would get up the balls to actually confront real atheists in my live stream instead of playing pretend that his gibberish here convinces anyone?
@@SundaeRoast I'm actually surprised that Jimmy isn't a flat earther.
What would you convince of something you don't know anything about?
How should you know what would be sufficent evidence beforhand or what kinds of possible evidence actually exist?
What would convince you of black holes, if you know nothing of them?
Showing you one?
Well, that wouldn't really work.
It is simply dishonest to put the burden on the non-believer to specify the evidence beforehand.
If you have sufficent evidence, you don't need to do that.
My chemistry teacher never asked me, "what would convince you that redox reactions exist?" He showed me evidence.
But we all know why theists do this, so they can claim that their god doesn't do this kind of evidence, because reasons...
It's just dishonesty.
Problems with "fine tuning"
1) How can constants be different and not a fundamental attribute of reality?
2) How can constants be set/tuned?
3) What proof is there that an agency is required if the above is possible?
4) What proof is there that only one specific set of constants are needed for life?
5) Why is the set of constants for our universe so bad at universally producing life?
As I like to say, fine tuning is arguing how unlikely it is to roll a specific number without knowing anything about the dice.
@@Beacon80
Yep. All things that my fellows try to avoid addressing
Creationist.... look at the trees, must've been created.
Me ................ who in their right mind would create an earth full of volcanoes?
Him showing his fucking face might convince me.
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says
A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says."
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Hey there, SundaeExpress. GOD has shown His face in Jesus, the Son of God :) . "For God so loved the World, He gave His Only Begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish, but have everlasting life."
We are not capable of seeing our creator. It’s like expecting a character in a computer game to understand who we are. He is just doing what he is programmed to do. That’s my idea of the Universe, we live in a simulation.
@@inuyasha123400 I asked him to show his face, not a bowl of word salad.
@@indysbike3014 So no face-showing, then.
The evidence required for a claim depends on the strength of the claim. If someone says, "who knows, maybe some entity created all of this", not much evidence is required.
But if someone claims that it absolutely necessarily has to be the case, the evidence would have to be undisputed facts from which it unambiguously logically follows that a God created all of this.
I asked you a question in your other spam... errr.. post.
Are you going to answer it or not?
@@coveux8335 Since you put it that way.... no. You want respect? Be respectful. I have no idea what you are referring to and I have no reason to care.
@@amtlpaul That's right. RUN. Because you realized yourself you don't understand what you are even saying at all.
Drop your "intellectual facade". Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
You just hate God. No logic. Just hate.
I begged god to reveal himself to me or to please give me a good sign. I still have no reason to believe in him.
You SURE the sign from god isn't some spambot putting the spam from its script that it posts on almost all the threads?
@@RickLambert963 Reported for spam
@@queuecee😅That is not good enough to convince me. He says that every time so it's not even a coincidence.
He wants to send us to hell just because we can't believe and accept him. He wants to let my best friend burn in hell and also good atheist people! That's crazy! Ik theists will probably say we have chosen to go to hell, but fuck no, no one will really choose to burn in hell forever. We were made like this. There is no real evicence! We can't just believe and have faith in something with no real evidence. They are fucked up/stupid if they truly think that's fair.
CZcams removed my other comments again. Wtf. I gave some really good reasons why it's not fair that we (good atheists) must go to hell.
Jimedith 'You're Lying' Castleberry also brings Christianity into disrepute with their intellectual dishonesty and cowardice as reflected by their constant deflections of critical scrutiny and their canned and spammed tirades.
@@RickLambert963 "US boy, 9, killed himself after homophobic bullying, mum says
A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says."
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@@RickLambert963 I can't find any definitions on google about what gatheists are. So either 1) you did multiple times the same spelling mistake on that comment, 2) you're inventing a word (and then we can simply answer that we aren't gatheists by your definition) or 3) you're trying to make a word (or a group of words) sound stupid to try to gain points (which is a sophism). Pick your poison
Yep Jimbo, Flojo, never-ending quackery and Rick the sapmbot are a demonstration of why Christianity is in decline.
@@RickLambert963 People like you drive gay children to suicide.
@@RickLambert963 "Stay away from children. "
Ha, tell that to the kiddy fiddling priests your churches keep covering up.
Dear trolls: Is your constant spamming a coping mechanism for the fact that your kids dropped you in the crappiest nursing home in the country, and that they've never called in 7 years? Or are you just horrible people?
Be happy the show is reaching the people it needs to reach. It may not change their minds, but if it makes them feel kind of bad for a little while then that’s the next best thing.
@@Leith_Crowthermost of the trolls don't watch the videos.
@@RickLambert963 It's really funny to see you with your copy-paste on that exact message...
(c) All of the above.
@@RickLambert963 Says the guy who harasses people.
A neighbour whose now deceased father was a Pentecostal Christian told me that on the previous Sunday he witnessed a miracle. Two 9 year old twin boys had been blind since birth; a number of church people stood around them in a circle and with clasped hands prayed earnestly to God and they were instantly cured. The boys were examined by doctors who were astounded as it was impossible, because they didn't have whatever it is that eyes need to function. But God had answered the prayers. Three weeks later the same man told me that on the prior Sunday two twin 9 year old boys who had been deaf from birth were prayed over by the same circle of church members holding hands. They boys were cured and could hear for the fist time. The boys didn't have the necessary bits to make hearing possible. The boys were taken to doctors, the top specialists, who were astounded as it was an impossible thing to happen, yet it did.
Similar scenarios, two-twin 9 year old boys, same church, same church-goers praying ... all too fantastic and specific to be true. It is a small town where I live and I have never seen any twin boys here, deaf blind or whatever. I had heard similar stories throughout my 77 years yet despite being a regular church-attender up until 19 I never saw any miracles ... and we had people in our church who could have benefitted from some divine assistance but never received it. This man lied to me twice. Christians will lie to you (lies and fraud are okay if it benefits God or the church, I have been told ... and this man told me that, too). Every time you listen to someone in the pulpit speak you will hear lies ... because the whole Christian religion ... all three Abrahamic religions ... are based on and supported by lies.
People who lie to you don't respect you. Don't listen to them ... don't allow it.
I know there are trolls here who love authoritarianism. They love the idea of exercising authority over others by proxy. But we are not accountable to you! We don't owe you our credulity. We don't even owe you a respectful hearing. And the things you say, far from making a reasonable case that we should give you a respectful hearing, make the case that the opposite is true.
Brave words. Don't worry... all will be revealed in time (and beyond).
Just so you know, even Jesus told of a story where He shut the door on a group of women and told them coldly, "I do not know you".
@@coveux8335 No it won't. There is no evidence that anything exists beyond death. As the Greeks maintained 2500 years ago "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after you die is either a liar or a fool." Which one are you?
When you die, you'll simply cease to exist...like every other living thing on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years. Maybe you should find something more useful to do with what time you've got left other than troIIing CZcams videos and believing in superstitious nonsense.
@@coveux8335 There is no evidence that anything will be revealed. When you die you simply cease to exist...just like every other living thing on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years. Just like you didn't exist before you were conceived. It's about time you grew up and accepted the fact instead of indulging in infantile fantasies about some everlasting post-life party.
As the Greeks said 2500 years ago "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after you die is either a liar or a fool."
@@coveux8335 Do you have any evidence that all will be revealed? As the Ancient Greeks said "Anyone who tells you they know what happens after death is either a liar or a fool." Your choice.
There is absolutely no evidence of any kind of afterlife; and frankly, if looked at critically instead of like a little kid looking forward to a party, it could be a terrifying experience, from which there would be no escape. Face it like a man; when you die you cease to exist...like everything else on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years.
@@coveux8335 Do you have any evidence that all will be revealed? The Ancient Greeks had a very pragmatic approach; and regarded anyone who claimed to know what happened after death as either a liar or a fool.
Some people just aren't mature enough to accept the fact that when they die they'll simply cease to exist...like everything else on this planet has done for the last 3 billion years.
"What evidence would convince you that there's a creator?"
Ultimately, this is a dishonest and a useless question.
IF you say "I don't know", the Xtian excuse-makers whine that we should know.
IF you say "god should know", the Xtian excuse-makers whine that their god has already given you the evidence.
IF you propose a test scenario, the Xtian excuse-makers whine that their god is not a genie and not available-on-demand.
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@@RickLambert963 IDGAF what you copy paste.
@@sanjeevgig8918He rarely even bothers to find a semi-relevant copy pasta 🍝 these days
XTrans atheist humanist what is an Xtians ? Please don't tell me you're using x as unknown. Because you seem to be making a lot of claims about knowing so much about these unknown tian's.
I have to disagree with these unknown tian's .
I find if I ask an XTrans atheist humanist if they believe the origins of Life came into existence without God they usually don't believe that. Which is kind of weird because they don't have the willingness or ability to accept God.. and then they have this burden of proof mixed up in their head, they think somebody who says they believe in God has to convince them of something they don't have the willingness or ability to accept as true or they didn't reach their burden of proof LOL They don't realize that burden of proof is to the claim so unless somebody says they can convince someone of something why would it be their burden of proof. On top of that how the hell are you going to convince someone of something they don't have the willingness or ability to accept. It's disingenuous for an atheist to ask for evidence for something that they wouldn't or couldn't accept as true even if it was proven by the scientific method.
By the way in your other post you seem equally confused, most people who believe in God don't believe God is a thing they believe God is a being..
Do you think it might be the case that you don't comprehend as much as you think you do.
By the way do you believe the origins of life came into existence without creation, without God? If so please provide evidence to why you believe that. And if I'm not convinced in return I will provide evidence to why I believe in God so we can see which one is more logical.
If you don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God just say the words I don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. Is that your position you should have no problem saying that unless you have a bias.
What do you think about xtrans atheist humanist Richard Dawkins and all the x-trans atheist humanist that believe he's a genius because he believes in a magical sky mommy singularity that popped into existence from nothingness, no air no space nothingness.
Which of course goes against the first law of thermodynamics , energy and mass cannot be created or destroyed.
I believe in the eternal being God who created the origins of life and use the materials around like mass and energy to create like an artist uses the materials around him to create.
Let me guess you're not going to tell me anything that you believe you're just going to tell me about what you don't believe because you don't have the willingness or ability to accept .
All I have are my 5 senses. Those senses have not detected god. Anything beyond that would be my imagination filling in the holes.
That is not a good argument.
Do you believe radiowaves exist?
You can't detect them with your 5 senses alone.
@@vertigo4236 Radio waves are detectable they are also demonstrable. Amplification of sight and sound are still being detected by our senses. You can not detect a god that exists purely in you imagination. Your argument is a waste of breath. Science is our extra sense of sorts. Missing the point is very typical of an indoctrinated person. We all know about radio waves. We listen to the broadcasts all day long. I still only have those five senses but somehow I have come to know that radio waves are real. What the f is your point? Did you learn about radio wave trough prayer? What a pointless question. omg read a book.
Good lawd son! Are you really that dense? You expect physical senses to detect the non-physical? What's your excuse?
Do you expect a smoke detector to detect intentions and ideas? Damn son.
@@JimCastleberry Well tell me how you know god is real without making up a bunch of fake reasons to believe in it. Arrogant self righteous insecurity is your motivator. God gave me no sense of it's existence, and then said I would burn in hell if I didn't tell other people that I believe it's real. Your comment is beyond stupid and passive aggressive. When your unverifiable assertions are not accepted by thinking people you lash out at them with Hyperbole and vicious intent. Your belief in the monster god is reprehensible and I cherish the fact that the world is finally moving on from that ancient voodoo witchcraft you call religion. So in closing, I would say that you are the dense person in this chat.
@@davidbelway6076 Jim is saying that there's NO way to physically detect his god. So it has NO impact in our reality. It can't tell you anything, because that would affect the air molecules. It can't grant you any prayers, since that would require something to happen in the real world, which can be detected. You obviously can't see it.
Basically, his god does NOT exist in our world. According to Jim.
17:55 - Jen's smile just brightened my day!!!😃😃
I will show you the grave of my dead pet and you raise it from there and I will believe you, very simple task
Monotheism is just 1 God away from Atheism
Apparently for some people, their "evidence" for the existence of god is... things are alive.🤦♂
I guess we add that to the list of "evidence". Trees, entropy, things die, people have sense of right and wrong, and things are alive.
"Look at the tree in front of you. Are you actually looking at the tree or is thought looking at it ?""
"When you look at a tree your mind is already active: 'It's an oak tree; I like it, it's old, it's young,' and so on - so you are not looking at all.'"
J. Krishnamurti
Yes, that's one proof of many. LIFE can only come from LIFE. INTELLIGENCE can only come from INTELLIGENCE. LOVE can only come from LOVE. CONSCIOUSNESS can only come from CONSCIOUSNESS. MORALITY can only come from MORALITY. Not only that, but the CAUSE/SOURCE is required to have the MEANS to give us these attributes. Christianity has all the important answers, while atheism has NONE, as I continue to prove.
The "false answer," as I have proved for 50 yrs, is atheism. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn. Atheism debunked.
@@neverendingparty4832 Proof that god doesn't exist is cowards who run away when challenged to have a voice call to answer for all his dumb claims.
Some people like to argue it's not logical to believe your mother was the result of another life ,the result of an intelligence source because you didn't witness it so it's just as likely your mother popped into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence.
@@Mr.RichardLevine4thanother FUBAR post
The longest yard is so often morally bankrupt.
Love thy neighbor as thyself
Speaks volumes about who we are
"Does it mean, if you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of the things in the past that the physicists-at the time-didn’t understand … [but now we do understand.] If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller, as time moves on. So just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem. That’s simply the “God of the Gaps” argument that’s been around for ever." -Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
"The good thing about Science is that it’s true, whether or not you believe in it." -Neil deGrasse Tyson
And that's why Neil is a useful idiot to the atheist community:
If you see him, ask him this: "Neil, if you're so confident that science will eventually explain everything, can you provide a timeline for when we'll understand dark matter, the purpose of dreaming, or the fine-tuning of the universe? Until then, isn't it just as speculative to assume science will fill these gaps as it is to invoke God? Can you provide a scientific explanation for the origin of consciousness and moral laws that are universally recognized? If science is supposed to explain everything, why do we still have fundamental questions about existence and purpose that remain unanswered? "
@@DesignsByTreyfine tuning 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@joshsheridan9511 Throwing in a bunch of laughing emojis doesn't actually dispute the fine-tuning argument. It just shows you like to laugh. Care to provide a real counter-argument or evidence against it?
@@DesignsByTrey there is no fine tuning argument, it's the misrepresentation of facts by professional excusionists
And repeated by dumb excusionists
@@joshsheridan9511 Claiming that the fine-tuning argument is just a misrepresentation of facts without providing any evidence or logical refutation is not a valid counter-argument. Care to back up your claim with some actual evidence? Can you explain how the precise values of physical constants necessary for life could occur by chance without invoking the multiverse hypothesis, which itself lacks empirical evidence?
Virtual particles are verified as actual matter and they produce a measurable force known as the Casimir effect. However, they are not examples of creation. They are examples of conversion. They manifest out of vacuum energy, increasing the vacuum, and then instantly convert back into energy.
It’s such a stupid question but they feel so justified in asking it. What would convince me? Does it matter? Can you provide ANYTHING at all?
None. The premise is absurd.
1. Ask atheist what would be suffucient evidence.
2. Tell them how unreasonable that standard is.
Theists: But we already showed it to you!1!!1!1!!1
Most of us don't know what would convince us. We don't pretend to know the unknowable. We are honest about it, and that is what you lot find unreasonable.
1: Cult leaders exists (how do you explain other religions otherwise ?), so any evidence that cannot be made up by a cult leader (and by my own hallucinations/dreams/other things like that) would do the job
2: Sorry for not wanting to fall into a cult because my standard is too low
Most atheists have the same standards of evidence that I as an agnostic pantheist have.
Creationist theists however keep trying to lower the bar in theirs while raising it for others.
None, especially if this creator thing is a male and requires me to worship and pray to it.
Sorry, would rather be out in the garden or walking the dog.
And a good Saturday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤
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Morning mate. Up early again, I see. 😂
@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 Morning cobber, yeah up early for work on a Saturday Morning 💪
Then my son's soccer match ⚽
@@smochygrice465 I've got a fishtank to finish the "scape" on today - at least enough to get it filled and running, so that I can move some fish over that are currently in a WAY too small tank. That should be fun. 😁
If atheists are such joyful people enjoying their day why do they have such a high mental illness and suicide rates.
I mean I wouldn't call the idea of living under the Godless atheistic humanist Utopia of North Korea as having a good time unless you consider being starved to the point you're 3 inches shorter than your genetic counterpart in South Korea due to malnourishment as having a good time I would have to disagree
@@Mr.RichardLevine4th Breaking news! Prayer no help for North Korean Christians!
Planets can only come from planets. Stars can only come from stars. Cars can only come from cars. Hate can only come from hate. Jesus can only come from Jesus.
Oh, look. Apparently just making jingoistic claim says nothing about the validity!
Got to love someone who, when faced with a counter to their argument, just repeats the argument and assume that counters the counter somehow.
@@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Everything must have a source/cause? What's the source/cause for your god, then?
@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor Wow. You're really dumb. Our INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD is not a created being. His DYING CREATION is a created being (FINITE NATURE: time/space/matter/energy) that had a beginning, an eventual heat death end and thus, a BEGINNER/CREATOR/INFINITE CAUSE/SOURCE.
Not only have I proved all atheist ideas are IMPOSSIBLE, DEBUNKED and NEVER OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy differing from ancestry/evolution), but I proved God is a necessary reality.
Like it or not, there is no POSSIBILITY that basic nature produced the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing).
Atheism debunked.
@@Beacon80 There is no counter to my IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Planets or anything of FINITE NATURE cannot be the cause of anything.
I'm an expert on the scientific method that debunks all atheist ideas by the fact that all atheist ideas can never be tested, measured or observed because they don't exist/can't exist. Atheism is a stone cold DEAD END, as I continue to prove by fact after fact.
I TOTALLY DOMINATE this dung channel (11 yrs now) for a reason.
Depends on what you mean by creator. If there is evidence to support that this show is “creating” content then that is evidence of a creator.
"a single shred" for starters......
There must be some explanation for the existence of the creator.
I mean, he didn't just come from nothing, right ?
I would have to see a request/prayer to a deity cause something to happen, ideally something miraculous like bring back somebody who was very obviously dead or ,make a mountain or a building appear spontaneously.
Hell I'm not even as demanding, he could just fix all of the problems that I have (physical) without me having to do anything. But he also has to meet the deadline. He's got about 10 minutes.
Quantum particles have their own laws of physics, we don't see common particles or people blinking in and out of existence!
Which I suppose such a thing would help as evidence, if a naked man and naked woman suddenly blinked into existence in front of me! But so far > that's never happened!
@@RickLambert963
The question of whether mathematics was CREATED or DISCOVERED is a subject of casual speculation among mathematicians. That is, we don't take it particularly seriously but it's fun to think about.
Mathematics is essentially a hierarchy of theorems and the proofs by which they are derived from a small set of foundational axioms.
Proofs are expressed as a finite series of conceptual steps. But not every finite series of conceptual steps is a correct proof.
So, while we can, in principle, imagine all possible combinations of such steps lying around in conceptual space, waiting for proofs to be DISCOVERED among them, the process of validating any one of them requires someone to construct the necessary hierarchy of derivations to show that the given candidate is in fact a correct proof. And this is a purely CREATIVE act from the axioms onward.
Any suitable tech is perceived as magic
God has a really high bar to jump for magic
If I could ask one thing of God or a Genie, would be to end menstration and menstrual cramps in all woman without effecting their fertility or pregnancies. For me an instant change like this that affects everyone would be about the only proof that I would accept. Even then it wouldn’t be the God of the Bible or other current religion.
As an atheist I think the best critique of religion comes from Marx. So poignant and straightforward.
I wonder what evidence the caller would need to accept that another god is the actual real one.
You'je had 3000 to come up with evidence of god. Nothiing~ Why should I think that evdence is coming next week?
Natural selection
Because people who believe we are NOTHING
DOES make me question God. No doubt. -Christ
It would be easy to change my non belief if the creator would only show "himself" but none of the many hundreds of creators conjured by the mind of man have even done that. Conclusion: they are all figments of imagination - I rather like my beliefs supported by rational truth.
Seeing God face-to-face is a privilege. Not a right.
But He does understand your need for proof. So provides these miracles practically every generation:
1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531
2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971
3) Shroud of Turin
4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016
5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006
... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not.
Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
God interviewed on Oprey *live*
@@RickLambert963 Credit Union Netball Team.
Before Christian/Catholic principles were established in western cultures. The average Atheist behaved and conducted himself the same as those in indigenous tribes.
With the principles already established, atheist developed a delusion that a human doesn’t need religion to be principled, morally oriented, law abiding and respectful 😂.
Inference and assertions are not evidence - creationists offer nothing else. (Aren't ALL god believers simply creationists of one stripe or another? Even the believer who accepts the fact of evolution, is still certain that the entire purpose of evolution was to create THEM - the pinnacle of "god's plan" and the entire purpose and focus of the universe AND the eternal god.)
One has a fair expectation for AT LEAST the same degree of evidence that creationists demand for facts that DON"T require a belief in the supernatural. More than this, one has a fair expectation that if a person is going to claim that their god is the god of creation, that person is obliged to FIRST convince the rest of the religious people on the planet to accept THEIR god, THEIR dogma, and THEIR mythology, before having the arrogance to expect a non-believer to accept their gods over everyone else's.
In the end, though, the MOST unlikely answer of all to the great questions of existence is one whose central concept ("god/gods") has no understood or agreed meaning among the billions who claim god beliefs; whose untold thousands of iterations are so improbable, so wildly contradictory, and so equally without evidence, that none can be believed; and that offers no consistency or predictability whatsoever in answer to anything.
Saying you don't understand what created the universe so it must be god is just an assumption based on no evidence whatsoever. I don't know if there is or isn't an intelligent creator but if it turns out there is religion still has all its work cut out to prove that the creator cares while at the same time looking after the vastness of the universe cares whether someone sins or not . Something from nothing yes is unfathomable but then so is imagining something that has been there forever with no beginning or end.
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To renew old memories
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Hi, Nazi
I've not seen anything claimed as evidence that didn't turn out to be not evidence at all.
And I'm a theist myself
You are a theist? Really? I doubt you are Christian though, coz if you were, you would be aware of the many Eucharistic miracles.
@@coveux8335
I'm agnostic pantheist.
By "eucharistic miracles" do you mean events claimed as such but not only not proven as divine miracles but also explicable by non divine means? Such as the alleged shroud?
@@nealjroberts4050
Perhaps... what is the "non-divine" explanation for the 2013 Legnica miracle ?
@@coveux8335
One possible explanation is deliberate hoax.
I note that the evidence available is too inconclusive to affirm a supernatural occurrence. Remember the claim needs to be proven not disproven in order to be considered true.
@@nealjroberts4050 Of course... all Christians are LIARS right? That's ad hominem, btw.
"Inconclusive" ? What do you mean? Are you saying that the material is not real human cardiac muscle and AB blood?
If you want to learn go study Chris.
I studied Chris but she got annoyed 🤷
Give me YOUR evidence and I’ll let you know if it convinces me.
Should there be evidence we are not the Creator? I believe that is what law is for. Not to suggest that we aren’t Sovereign Life itself but to prove we are. That’s what I believe. What I know is that I am Christ, the resurrected life of Jesus.
I don’t despise atheism because it serves the point that an individual LIFE is wholly sovereign itself. I believe this is God. The LIFE. Not anything else.
If LIFE therefore is the proof of GOD, as I am suggesting it IS. Then you have proof, what you do with that proof determines your intellectual merit, nothing else.
Look into the Constitution
What about it
What does the Constitution have to do with anything?
Well there was a show about nothing in the 90s
The Bible is a living book. God reads you while your reading the Bible and you can actually feel this happening and the more you read the Bible then the more you feel Jesus Christ moving in your life. Who can begin to explain this but all Praise Goes to God Almighty!!!
1 Corinthians 15:3-8
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
ROMANS 10:13
For “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
There are many truths in the universe that we could seek but we don't seek them because they don't matter to us. They have no bearing on how we live our lives. The fact that so many seek the truth of God's existence shows that we are not some impartial judges of truth. We are in search of our own happiness. To some people God is to be sought for He, if He exists, knows why we were created and what we are to do in this world. To other people, God is an obstacle to living the life they want to live which is independence. Saying that we seek evidence of God is a charade. We'll mold, slice, dice, spindle and mutilate evidence until it supports the decision we already made.
OP fails to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings
@@jayrose8638 I'm pretty sure OP is an atheist talking about theists
Just because you believe something to be true doesn't make it true.
This is something my fellow theists need to learn
I wouldn't claim that god is an obstacle; more like a complete irrelevance. I don't shape my life around the notion that a god doesn't exist any more than I shape it around the notion that fairies don't exist.
@@jayrose8638 "Convincing reason" ..
The Christian God has been manifesting Himself by providing us miracles practically every generation:
1) Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531
2) Marian Apparitions, Zeitoun Egypt 1968-1971
3) Shroud of Turin
4) Eucharistic Miracle Legnica Poland 2016
5) Eucharistic Miralce Tixtla Mexico 2006
... these are just a FEW of many miracles that God has provided to satisfy our intellectual need for proof. You would have found these by now if you were really looking for answers. But that's the problem: you are not.
Atheism is not a logic issue. It's emotional.
God is English , that iswhy we are superior to everyone else , i rest my case , bow down and worship the great roast beef !!!!;
Atheism 100% debunked by intelligent design (Life, GOD) -Christ
No need to convince me that there is a creator.
There are BILLIONS of creators.
Every child is a creator.
“And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;”
Romans 1:28
Reprobate mind: unprincipled person, looks at everything with humor. Not a serious person.
Wow, a Bible verse. 🤨
Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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Never.
You are going to hell according to other religions. 😅
Pass, idiotic death cults make me itch
LIFE can only come from LIFE. INTELLIGENCE can only come from INTELLIGENCE. LOVE can only come from LOVE. CONSCIOUSNESS can only come from CONSCIOUSNESS. MORALITY can only come from MORALITY. Not only that, but the CAUSE/SOURCE is required to have the MEANS to give us these attributes. Christianity has all the important answers, while atheism has NONE, as I continue to prove.
The "false answer," as I have proved for 50 yrs, is atheism. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn. Atheism debunked.
So where did god come from? If you say nothing, then it's possible for life to come from nothing, therefore, abiogenesis stands. Of course, abiogenesis does not state that life came from nothing. You don't understand what abiogenesis is. Also, why are you constantly harassing people here? Is it to cope with the fact that all your points have been debunked and that you're not as special as you say you are? Like it or not, you're an angry old man who's going to be dead in 20 years and nobody is going to show up to your funeral. Like it or not, nothing is going to happen to you after you die. You'll be lost to history, and that's heaven compared to what god has in store for you according to your holy book.
Baseless assertions. Prove that intelligence cannot be an emergent property of increasingly complicated nervous systems.
I see you're still running away from my challenge to a live debate.
If life can only come from life, and love from love, consciousness only comes from consciousness, intelligence from intelligence, personality from personality, morality from morality, emotion from emotion, design from a Designer, creation from a Creator, then *What Designed and Created your "God" and gave it life, love, intelligence, personality, morality and emotion?*
@@Beacon80 Sorry dear, but you first have to bridge the IMPOSSIBILITY that LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS & MORALITY can be produced by basic nature (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing), which is CLEARLY & CERTAINLY A FIRM IMPOSSIBILITY. Atheism debunked. It's not even a conversation anymore.
Wrong. The INFINITE has no beginning, but this FINITE/LIMITED WORLD (time/space/matter/energy) had a BEGINNING (and an eventual end); thus, an INFINITE BEGINNER. Try to learn.