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SquEnix is just in the panic phase of their annual cycle. I feel like they do this every year, and it amounts to nothing.
SquEnix will be just fine, just as you say.
As long as they don't cancel the DQ 3 HD 2D remake, it's all right with me.
AND FRONT MISSION 3 REMASTERED! The only Front Mission we wanted, really.
@@armorvil Been playing FM5 with english patch. It's insanely good, dark, and gritty. Hope we can see an offical re-release sometime.
DQ12, really
We already have like 4 different versions of DQ3 lol
I agree, I hope to see the same thing done for DQ1, 2, and especially 4 as well.
@@DragonKingX78 1 and 2 are great in the SNES versions, the 2nd time it was remastered.
The thing a lot of people don't understand is that Square Enix doesn't just make games. They are a multimedia empire that produce games, anime, manga, light novels, and tons more.
Keep this in mind when they talk about losses and changes to content.
In their 2023 yearly financial report:
- Digital Entertainment (video games) were 71.5% of net sales
- Amusement (arcades and arcade machines) were 15.8%
- Publication (books and manga) were 8.5%
- Merch -- mostly game-based, of course -- was 4.2%
So while your point is well taken... yeah, they're pretty much a game company, with a few little projects on the side.
If Star Ocean can survive Integrity and Faithlessness, it'll survive this.
ummmm, i don't think star ocean survived it.
@@badboy-gn8fu Divine Force and Second Story R are bangers.
@@lens_hunter i have no issues w/second story R. that is what i wanted w/ FF7 remake, just a simple remake not that abomination they churned out. what square did to ff7 is sacrilege
@@badboy-gn8fu We aren't talking about FF7.
@@lens_hunter if they fk up Chrono Trigger remake imma declare war
I wish they could get the rights to do Parasite Eve again. I just want an HD Remaster of 1&2.
I really thought for sure Stellar Blade was related in some way to Parasite Eve initially lol
With Silent Hill & RE making headlines I don’t see why not
At least remake Parasite Eve 1..
I was a kid and got scared at the hospital part and never finished it 😂
@@tekguru8as long as they don’t make like FFVII Remake. No alternate timelines! Unless it erases 3rd Birthday
@@louisdellalucca8969That’d be amazing if they gave it the FF VII remake treatment. Jesus kid just play the HD version if all you want is the same game.
I bought the that Star Ocean 2 remake because I remember how good the experience was back when it was a PS1 only game. It's still the best Star Ocean.
Its such a tough market right now, it feels like everything has to sell millions of copies to be profitable.
That’s because games have astronomical development budgets and they keep rising year by year
Probably many millions and it’s not sustainable, gamers can’t afford to buy every new game that comes out. My wallets been taking a beating from all the new games I’ve bought just to show support.
The alternative is that they release some canon experience on smartphones that will get shut down in a few months after the whales shit a billion yen into the void
It's a normal development. In the 90s gaming was still not main stream so they didn't have to compete with too many developers. Nowadays everyone seems to be playing games even if just casually. That's why the market nowadays is flooded with developers and games. Competition is as hard as never before. That leads to very high production costs and deadlines because you have to make sure that your game releases before others and that the quality of games is higher. In theory, it's great for consumers. But bad for developers.
I really hope this doesn't affect the unannounced Chrono Trigger...
All I can say is if we lose out on AA games like Octopath Traveler 2, Triangle Strategy, Star Ocean 2nd Story R and Tactics Ogre in favor of a handful of AAA games that they make exclusive to 1 platform, it'll be a huge loss.
I've enjoyed the above games far more than any of their hyper expensive exclusives.
I don't think anyone is worried DQ will be canceled, but future AA games? They could be lost.
Exactly. No one seems to get this. They’ve said before they’re taking a AAA strategy. So what are they going to cancel, unannounced AAA stuff? Hopefully we’re wrong, but the writing is sort of on the wall.
My only major fear is that Final Fantasy Tactics hasn't OFFICIALLY been announced....it's all I super, super want.
Otherwise, give me more Bravely Default, Octopaths, Final Fantasies, DQs, maybe Star Oceans, and I'll be good.
Yeah, that and Chrono Trigger.
I really appreciate this take. When I saw the headline, I was panicked like everyone else. But what you're saying makes so much sense. Great video as always.
Glad it was helpful!
This reminds me of Square's early days (pre-Final Fantasy). They were essentially throwing a bunch of things in the market on the odds that something would hit. After Final Fantasy, they decided to focus on quality over quantity.
Square-Enix isn't in a healthy place, but they're taking the right steps to correct that and I'm pretty optimistic about their future.
Yup, I definitely remember playing Rad Racer, even had the 3D glasses, as well as 3D World Runner! My brother liked both of those games, I merely tolerated them LOL
@@davidvinc I didn't even realize Rad Racer was a Square game. I didn't pay attention to who made the games until the end of the SNES life cycle. Final Fantasy II/IV and Breath of Fire made me a JRPG fan for life.
Well, say goodbye to small, different or experimental games from now on. SQE didn't handle that segment too well but they had some good ones.
Agreed, I really enjoyed some of them like Triangle Strategy. Let's hope they do this smartly and instead of focusing only on copying what sells, they decide to inject more money into their projects that have the best storylines and gameplay instead. I want a Front Mission 3 Remastered that rocks my socks off for example.
Yeah I don't understand how people think this is a good thing.
They wont stop doing that. They'll just do it on a smaller scale where there is less risk of losing money.
Exactly. They can't feasibly put more money into their AAA games, so quality will not be improving. All this announcement means is they're dropping their indie-adjacent games.
@@armorviltriangle was limited to switch console wise.
I agree, but I really do hope they aren't cancelling the FF9 and tactics remake
I doubt it for FF9. It’s been rumoured to be in development for such a long time that it’s too late to cancel, thankfully.
Should never been remade like 7 , move on good game for the time, it's a different time an age.
How do you know it's even being remade?
There's a bunch of people including me who's been enjoying this AA game renaissance, so to see it not working out for Square Enix is really sad to see. If the release schedules were more spread out...
Guess they're remmebering that they can make good games that they can rerelease or remaster every 2nd or 3rd generation instead of shovelware. They even made a movie about remaking dragon quest titles well into the future.
As an accountant, thank you for explaining accurately what extraordinary loss means in accounting terms. It gets rough when people just assume.
The fact that there saying they need to focus on quality and not quantity is a good thing 😊
Honestly this is most sensible and level headed reaction I’ve seen on this issue. Great job David
Great video, David! It all makes perfect sense to me too. I see it as similar to what Disney is going thru recently with Marvel shows and their Cinematic Universe. They saw some success in the prior decade and then just went crazy with like 3 to 4 movies and several Disney+ shows per year planned. Quality took a hit and the mainstream stopped watching as consistently as a result. So they scrapped multiple projects altogether and combined some stories into others they had more confidence in. And similar to SquareEnix, those cancelled projects will undoubtedly have had some fans, but ultimately it is for the best. The brightside is that for SquareEnix, they did this pruning early enough to just focus on unannounced projects. People should be thankful for that because it burns much more if they had waited for financial turmoil and let announced games go under.
Now if only Bandai Scamco could give as a much of a damn
Bamco will never give a damn about any of the properties they own and publish. 😭
Well cancelled games not officially announced could also mean FF6, 8, 9, 10, and/or tactics remakes.
Good video. I appreciate your assessment of the situation. Lots of social media has people acting like they are in the squareenix boardroom with some really uninformed takes on the situation
Well said my friend!
Finally! Thank you for making sense of this! Things are looking good!
sometimes you have to take a step back to go forward. Not every company is going to take win after win. Taking this step back shows that they are being critical of their approach and moving forward with a new vision. I'm very excited to see what they come up with in the future.
thanks for clearing this up, u did a great job David! i love square and i would love if they doubled the quality and cut out the crap. they are so hit or miss!
You forgot in December following Valkyrie Elysium, they came out with Romancing Saga Minstrel Song Remaster
Thank you for this. I have been saying this since the news article came out.
Also thank you for featuring bravely so prominently in this video. Every time I see footage of that series and hear about the future of that series it makes me smile
100% agree, this is a good thing! More good games? YES!
Hi David. Thanks for keeping us in tune with the news. Hope all is well! Cheers, Jerrel
You’re like the warrior of light striking down the darkness!
Keep doing what you do 👍🏻
That looked like OG PS2 Final Fantasy X footage 👀👀👀
They used to put out many games during their SNES and PS1 days too.
The assumption of selling a certain number of copies of the latest part of FF7 did not materialize. We're talking about a AAA game that costs a lot of money. This is the main reason for this whole situation.
I admit, my initial reaction to this was doom and gloom, too, but after seeing your tweet talking about it, and thinking about it myself for a while, I think the amazing highs we've gotten has made a lot of people forget just how many explosive duds Square has put out in the last years.
And the money that could have gone into flops like Balan or Babylon making a potential new Bravely or Star Ocean even better and more complete (and marketed!) is something I'm all for!
If they were ever on the table, I hope we still can expect Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy Tactics on Switch!!!
Think I’m developing a bit of a man crush, David. 😉
I'd buy it all, if I could.
All of it.
Hey David. Quick question. Where do you buy your strategy guides?
Mostly at the local retro game Stores
One fear is that if they have a failure it's going to hurt more. If FF7 Rebirth failed, they could be crippled or going bankrupt
Rebirth is only a failure because of their stubborness to make it a PS5 exclusive. I am just waiting for the steam release to buy it at full price. And I'm definitely not the only one.
The thing that bothers me is that they were some great gems during that time. I love The DioField Chronicle but with the mixed reviews and from what I heard underwhelming sales I doubt SE is gonna look to make a sequel.
At least Star Ocean did pretty well, that's a relief.
I would be sad if one of the cancelled unannounced games was Dragon Quest Builders 3.
I'm inclined to see it as an overall net good more than bad, though I do worry a little about what this means we're going to miss out on. Games like NEO TWEWY, the Voice of Cards trilogy, and The Diofield Chronicle may have only happened because SE was throwing money at smaller projects with wild abandon, and even though I understand they'd find more success priorizing the likes of FF, KH, DQ, and NieR, I still hold a very soft spot for these other games. SE's biggest misses seem to happen when they either try to exploit their IPs or the prestige of their developers. But when they're essentially starting from scratch, some pretty cool things have happened under their banner, and I hope they don't shy away from taking more bold risks even if a fanbase isn't already built into their anticipated profit margins.
I'd really like to see where the story and gameplay for diofield goes and another triangle strategy would be nice
im just glad they realized they needed to refocus.
Not saying SquareEnix needs to go all Naughty Dog and release one game every 3 years...but quality over quantity is preferred. I suspect FFXVI cannibalized some of FFVIIRebirth's sales since they were released less than one year apart.
Well they were comparing rebirth sales to remake, which I think is a mistake considering all the factors stacked against rebirth. Rebirth had the macaroni money and lock downs, and it was the return of a franchise. Makes sense for it to do well in sales. Rebirth only released on PS5, in a time after massive inflation in the economy. Then it’s also a sequel which generally don’t do as well. There was also very little advertisment for rebirth, I didn’t even know it was coming out until a month before release.
Long story short rebirth could be better than remake in every aspect and it would still be surprising for it to keep up with remake sales imo.
On the one hand, I can understand why people are concerned about the future of certain titles. I think SE needs to scale back thing, they've come up with some bangers when it comes to games with the AA budget games. However, their AAA projects have taken a noticeable dip in quality. They absolutely need to go back to their PSOne & PS2 days in which they did put out experimental titles but also put out plenty of bangers too. I think Team Asano & Tri-Ace will be fine and will continue to put out plenty of great games. I have a feeling Tri-Ace is taking notes on how to do the next Star Ocean after seeing how well Second Story R sold. Tactics Remake will still be a thing I'm sure and with how well Unicorn Overlord is doing? We'll see more of the Ogre franchise too.
At the same time SE put all those games out, they also were working on the FFXI Voracious Resurgence content, which, in and of itself, was pretty much a free expansion pack for a 20 year old (in 2022) MMORPG. The Voracious Resurgence dropped in October of 2023.
I'm of the thought that even if they tweeted from the Bravely Default account in December reassuring they will have a steady flow, is superseded by the more recent news that they are focusing in and have canceled unannounced games.
I really hope we get final fantasy tactics and saga frontiers 2 remakes. the ps1 and ps2 had great square enix games that need to be on pc and modern consoles.
As long as they still hold to that remasters/remakes plan they discussed at the shareholder’s meeting a while back, I’m good. Need that Xenogears remake…
I wonder what this means for remasters and 2D-HD games in general. I really liked a lot of the output mentioned on your list. It's sad that we'll never know what we lost unless someone leaks it.
Hope we still see Saga Frontier 2 HD. It was never announced but the original director hinted about it.
Bravely Default and Octopath Travelers were two of the games I loved last year. Live A Live is on the top of the stack of games I'm playing next. This video put my mind to ease and am looking forward to the future slate of Square Enix games.
Lower budget, AA games like Octopath, Bravely Default, and Live-a-Live, could be precisely what they’re canceling…
The cynic in me says more quality actually means sequels only and deeper monetization. I'll reserve judgment
This is great news. Ive mentioned this in recent commens but i have a newfound love for the older style RPGs. To hear Square is likely going to be putting an emphasis on those games has me so excited. I bought Harvestella and Tactics ogre back during that Rapidfire release window Square had and I have yet to play them. I hear amazing things about Harvestella though. I hope these kinds of games just get bigger and bigger. I feel like they have nailed the Art style and performance for the most part. So my hopes are that they go full tilt into the content aspect and make some behemoth titles. Some short but memorable games are welcome too.
Couldn’t agree more! I want more quality. I’m excited to see what the future holds for SquareEnix.
IMO, more money into a game doesn't necessarily make it better. Usually, taking more time to make a game is what tends to make it better.
I couldn’t agree more David. I would absolutely love less games but higher quality and love put into them.
Also, Hope you get better David. I can hear it in your voice. I am STILL getting over Bronchitis, its been 3 weeks since I saw my doctor and got meds. For some reason, this thing going around is lingering.
It's the exact same for me, it's been like a month now - It's never ending!
I think personally this is fantastic. Overall strategy should be trimmed down especially if you have too much going on; you create bottlenecks. Kudos to SE executive team for realizing this and taking action to correct it. Again, time will tell the actual results
Best thing possible? They are cutting back on sidequests, fetch quests, and minigames?
That’s probably what they’re doubling down on, with more action and more AAA
this tells me theyre also going to consolidate dev teams, this could possibly decrease development time from years and years and years, to just years lol
I just hope the FF9 remake is still on. It hasn’t been officially announced, but I need it in my life!
If they thought I had the budget to buy all these games plus other games unrelated to SE... they're out their minds!
I just hope they don't cancel any of the final fantasy remakes and remasters. I am really looking forward to X-3, 13 remaster and X Remake.
Did the majority of the sales of Star Ocean Second story come from steam? It seems you only reported physical sales for consoles. Just asking.
In regards to the point, 'put out a whole bunch of games in a short time being a bad strategy', what I'd like to know is who and why did they think that would be a good strategy?
I mean, a large swath of the globe doesn't have that disposable income to spend on video games, not to mention the time you'd have to spend to finish each game within that timeframe, that's going to eliminate alot of potential customers.
I think every FF is playable on current consoles except 13. It’s only a matter of time I hope. And I definitely hope 13-2 gets remastered too.
You can keep Lightning Returns.
I hope youre right. Its shame cuz harvestell and dio field was good. Problem is they have a problem with project and budget scope. FF7 was too big. The amount of resources and detail was overkill. Thats the real reason the game is a trilogy now. Break it up and sell it 3 times. Square shines in AA gaming. Think back to the ps1 and ps2 golden age
I appreciate the Zelda Triforce shirt. Also looks so good as always. Nice video David. ❤
I kinda had the same reaction is you, putting out many games but many of them sub par made me skeptical that new releases would be quality enough to buy. I like that they are going back to the company that made me a loyal fan, and releasing only top tier games. I mean, they came out with a power wash simulator of all things...
Thank you for confirming this, David. I thought SquareEnix really is in critical condition 😅
I wholeheartedly agree. This is a very wise move on their part, and it seems like they'll be taking a step back to how they behaved in the Playstation 1 era.
Also the misunderstanding of the term HD implies pretty much everything except mobile games. AAA and AA games included. New potential Games as a Service IPs would be included in this as well.
I can actually see them making MORE HD-2D games as a safety net, given costs would be substantially lower as with development times in general, and going back through their older catalog.
This is good for Square Enix because most people have limited time available for gaming so they of course select the games that are more polished and fun to play.
I always attributed the news, haven't read much on it besides your discussion here, based upon the idea that they're looking at it from a business perspective. To put it bluntly, and I think you bring up a fantastic point, to emphasize further, an oversaturation of game releases on their part created this overlap, which would askew the market sales, as well as the ideas of what was popular or not. This would also handicap their own sales as a whole. Honestly, I've been rather pleased with some of their games, which surprised me when I played ff16 7 months later and regretted not buying it day one, so they are certainly moving in a more positive direction, even if their business endeavors may not create the thing that they expect it to.
Thank you David! This was exactly what I needed to know
Glad it was helpful!
I just hope it doesn't stop the remasters and remakes of smaller ip n games they've been doing but it prob will
I'm not convinced they know the fat from the meat. Time will tell.
Better yet, release the Heaven and Earth Trilogy in a single package, with an improved translation. Or, hell, a remake of all three in the style of Live a Live.
i enjoy their octopath traveler games and bravely default games way more than their mainline final fantasy games
As an outsider looking in, I’m speculating it’s a combination of the weakening of the yen + their AA efforts were all losses + AAA favoring more franchise releases like Final Fantasy. So they are shifting their all on their tentpole franchises. Its a huge gamble because one miss means the probable death of a CBU/creative studio they have
I hope this doesn't mean they stop doing remakes of stuff we haven't gotten a re-release of in decades.
Yeah, when I first heard about this happening. The first thing I thought was oh no their going to cancel the DQ 3 HD 2D remake.
Hoping for Radiata stories on modern platforms next year on its 20th anniversary (not really sure if triace or se owns it though)
Happy to hear that SO2R is such a hit! I just assumed it got overshadowed by Rebirth
Don't forget Dragon Quest Monster the Dark Prince.
I agree whole heartedly, they’ve over extended themselves to an absurd level. It is a shame that some of the cancelled games could’ve gone on to be really great games, but I’m sure there were a lot of Babylon’s Fall and Foamstars in there too.
Would this mean we won't see Dissidia games anytime soon?
This is a welcome video with some really great points that make me hopeful, I just hope FF IX Remake isn't effected
Also when you convert their losses 22 BILLION yen is around 140 million in American dollars..
I do not like the character sprites of the Bravely Default games, BUT those are what Final Fantasy SHOULD have been. I believe if they would just spruce up the visuals, that game series would pick up being the classics that FF once was.
Give us the best possible game possible and we the consumers will buy them.
If Visions of Mana gets cancelled, I'll straight up lose my shit. Thanks for putting me at ease
It won't dude -- Visions is a finished product with an announced release window (just a few months away), and past the main-release QA phase by now. They're just putting it in packages now, working on promotional material, platform releases and early patches. None of the cancelled games were 2024 releases, I am sure.
I think the releases were fine, they just released too much at once back at end of 2022. They should have just timed the releases out better and spaced them out a bit more.
I'm also worried that they may cut the good stuff, and focus more on the fat instead that you mentioned. Given Square Enix's history and their more than questionable moves they have done the past several years, unfortunately I'm not as optimistic. I'm also worried that there may be a doubling down on just the very popular stuff, and the other stuff that (honestly in my opinion) shines brighter gets put to the wayside, especially in the realm of creation of new IPs and fresh ideas. They seem to be constantly chasing trends these days, not setting them like they used to, so that part of me is also like ehhhhhh.
BUT - we will see what happens. I'm personally cautiously optimistic, once again, just given the history of what they've been doing the past several years.
I think forspoken and that "kill chaos" debacle did it.
Let’s hold out hope for all the old school dragonquest games to come out in HD2D like Dragonquest 3.
I hope the ff9 project hasn't been cancelled!! Surely not. They'd make bank on it I reckon.
SQENIX: We know what gamers want.
Gamers: Finally, Final Fantasy Tactics remake!!!
SQUENIX: Here's Foamstars guys, enjoy!
SQUENIX: ok, that didn´t work. how about Valkyria series?
Games: great!!!
SQUENIX: Valkyria series but totally different it is.
This doesnt change everything
I'm glad that they plan on slowing their roll a little. But I don't want them to become another Ubisoft (Assasins Creed 34!). All the games you mentioned are fine and dandy, but I thought a lot of those different games they released were great. I loved the old Squaresoft days. Parasite Eve, Einhander, Brave Fencer Musashi, Xenogears, Radiata Stories, Vagrant Story, and so much more. Please don't say negative things about Harvestella or Diofield Chronicles when it was great to see a glimmer of the opd Square come back. DQ and FF are fine, but we wouldn't have Octopath Traveler of they didn't take a chance on "weird" games.