Love watching and listening to Hillary Doyle a true font of knowledge, and the you got to admit it is small and squat in profile and has a lot of bitting power just like a badger so I suppose that is where the nickname came from.
Muzzle brakes made ATGs much easier to spot. The smoke dissipated quickly but the rearward blast would raise dust and it spread out to the sides clearly marking the gun's location. That according to a Soviet tank officer's memoir.
Originální konstrukce lt.38 ČeskoSlovenské republiky. Z kvalitního podvozku Praga montovali nacisti stíhač tanků. Používaný byl do konce války. Mimochodem Lt. 38 výrazně převyšuje Panzer l i ll. 😊
Oh, look, later made light tank outperform older tanket and older light tank. Also, Germany created totally new, powerful Hetzer from obsolete chassis by using German components that old factory could manufacture.
My favorite tank in wot. I know it’s a fighting vehicle, function over style, but I love the shape of the thing ! It makes me think of a large metal beetle with a very destructive sting at the front. Fascinating and informative video. I’d really like a large scale model of it.
I guess it depends on the crew, what would you want to be in a Tiger I/II or this? Given allied air power, lack of fuel, bridges that can't take your weight, I know where I'd be.
I always felt the Jagdpanzer 38t was the 'cute little sister' of the Jagd Panther... They share a lot of similarities in profile, but not size (or I assume deadliness...). I don't know why, must be some genetic markers left over from my grandparents/parents, but I still think German tanks look 'cool' in spite of all the awful events associated with WW2 and the Nazi Regime. I was recently at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa and it had many WW2 vehicles, including Sherman/T-34 etc, but only standing beside the German armor (they have a Panther (Ausf A), Jagdpanzer IV, and PzKw 2) caused any primal excitement/awe.
You know since the US Marines are doing away or have done away with their tanks, but likely still need some sort of Direct Fire artillery for bunker busting and such perhaps a modern version of the Jagdpanzer 38t Hetzer should be developed.
haha, they never bothered to look under the paint of the barrel. In reality every single JPz.38t has a thread at the end of the barrel under a cover screwed on. It is a standard Pak.39 gun not any vehicle specialized KwK gun, it wasnt specially produced for the "Hetzer" and every Pak.39 had muzzle break screwed on as a standard feature. The prototype JPz.38t was even tested with the muzzle break, it was found out that its not needed since the most powerful ammo will not be used with "Hetzer" and the muzzle break is reveling the gun position much easier, so on production the muzzle break was omitted and the thread was covered by a simple mantle cover. There are also few photographs from war production in Czech factories, showing the production of JPz.38t where you can clearly see that every vehicle has the thread on the end of barrel. There is also a clip for German surrender, where you can see a passing by "Hetzer" with the muzzle break mounted on, so some commanders did use it (probably to lengthen the barrel life?). There are also some pictures from WWII field showing "Hetzer" with no thread cover mounted.
Silly nazis should have been building these and the stugs from the start with the 4 as the tank and then replace the 4 with panthers and tigers. They wasted so much by having so many types of vehicles and wastes on tiger 2s, jagtigers and such.
How would you like to be a crew member inside the Hetzer in the summer time, 4 men hot and sweating in a cramped hot compartment with little ventilation maybe sitting in a ambush position for hours
I hate to say this, but aren't these just old Nazi fanboys with trainspotter mentalities? What, actually, is so important about these vehicles? Discuss.
I knew a guy in the Free Masons who had become and officer in the German military in 1943. He ended up in Hetzers and in two years of fighting on the Eastern Front he had 3 of them knocked out from under him. He didn't loose any crewmen with the TDs that were killed under him so that speaks to the crew survivability of the vehicle. He said he liked the vehicle and that the gun was pretty good even against the more and more modern Soviet tanks that were appearing at the time.
I spent many years in tanks as an officer. In the mess all the commonwealth tank commanders (in their 60's reliving the old days) who had a tank killed under them would say it was knocked out from under them. Remember the cavalry longs for the old days with horses so a lot of the horse terminology remains in commonwealth tank units. I knew Rad well (Radley-Walters) and he told me the stories of having tanks knocked out from under him (the descriptor he used as well) including one time in which he woke up in a tree after being blown out his hatch. I assume my German friend (Hetzer platoon leader) in the Free Masons had just picked up on the terminology from his decades since the war spent in Canada.
@@fransnilsson7333 what are you driving at? When founded, it was part of the Austro-Hungarian state. Pilsen, the HQ, eventually became part of the emergent Czechoslvak state. There were investors from Volkswagen at one point, and even interest from the Asian market, but there is no record of Swedish ownership. The Landswerk tanks that look like Skoda werks products were license built copies. Kinda like how everyone and their brother licensed the FT.
Mr Doyle's tank knowledge never fails to astound me.
Thanks for the discussion gents!
I always loved that little tank especially with the 105mm it looked like the infantry support vehicle was supposed to
Hilary is brilliant... Fortunate to have many of his books.
Fantastic to listen to an expert who obviously know what he talks about.
If you ever visit Sweden - visit Arsenalen in Strängnäs, about 100km from Stockholm😊👍
Thank you much.
Love watching and listening to Hillary Doyle a true font of knowledge, and the you got to admit it is small and squat in profile and has a lot of bitting power just like a badger so I suppose that is where the nickname came from.
Very nice and informative discussion, gentlemen. Thank you.
Muzzle brakes made ATGs much easier to spot. The smoke dissipated quickly but the rearward blast would raise dust and it spread out to the sides clearly marking the gun's location. That according to a Soviet tank officer's memoir.
It's a trade-off, so the crew can get off a quick follow-up shot without being blinded by their own smoke.
Interesting. Thank you
@@VenturiLife No, the main reason to add a muzzle brake is to reduce the recoil of the gun. That allows fitting a larger gun in a limited space.
Originální konstrukce lt.38 ČeskoSlovenské republiky. Z kvalitního podvozku Praga montovali nacisti stíhač tanků. Používaný byl do konce války. Mimochodem Lt. 38 výrazně převyšuje Panzer l i ll. 😊
Oh, look, later made light tank outperform older tanket and older light tank.
Also, Germany created totally new, powerful Hetzer from obsolete chassis by using German components that old factory could manufacture.
Karlsson and Doyle; a formidable pairing. TFP
Yes!
So interesting. Thanks for the detailed insight.
My favorite tank in wot. I know it’s a fighting vehicle, function over style, but I love the shape of the thing ! It makes me think of a large metal beetle with a very destructive sting at the front. Fascinating and informative video. I’d really like a large scale model of it.
Angery Beetle!
I thing to make a scale model
Always thought it looked like "Ankylosaurus"
Nice.. I scratch built a bit later model in 1/12 scale for RC... Cool little machine. Learned a lot researching for the build.
These tank destroyers were a love and hate relationship with the crews! The were very effective tank destroyers, but were a nightmare to fight!
I guess it depends on the crew, what would you want to be in a Tiger I/II or this? Given allied air power, lack of fuel, bridges that can't take your weight, I know where I'd be.
It was probably still better than being assigned to crew a conventional towed AT gun.
I remember an interview with a US soldier who made sure to point out how effective those "little tanks" were.
id want a ferdinand
I always felt the Jagdpanzer 38t was the 'cute little sister' of the Jagd Panther... They share a lot of similarities in profile, but not size (or I assume deadliness...). I don't know why, must be some genetic markers left over from my grandparents/parents, but I still think German tanks look 'cool' in spite of all the awful events associated with WW2 and the Nazi Regime. I was recently at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa and it had many WW2 vehicles, including Sherman/T-34 etc, but only standing beside the German armor (they have a Panther (Ausf A), Jagdpanzer IV, and PzKw 2) caused any primal excitement/awe.
You know since the US Marines are doing away or have done away with their tanks, but likely still need some sort of Direct Fire artillery for bunker busting and such perhaps a modern version of the Jagdpanzer 38t Hetzer should be developed.
Google. Mpf
That janitor is so fired.
Compact AFV with a powerful gun, but . . . gunner had to arch his body over the breech to load it, it was cramped, and I've heard that it leaked.
The ergonomic design was so bad you'd have to think it was subtle sabotage.
Yes... We all have heard that several times.
That is a scholar, Mr. Doyle.
haha, they never bothered to look under the paint of the barrel.
In reality every single JPz.38t has a thread at the end of the barrel under a cover screwed on.
It is a standard Pak.39 gun not any vehicle specialized KwK gun, it wasnt specially produced for the "Hetzer" and every Pak.39 had muzzle break screwed on as a standard feature.
The prototype JPz.38t was even tested with the muzzle break, it was found out that its not needed since the most powerful ammo will not be used with "Hetzer" and the muzzle break is reveling the gun position much easier, so on production the muzzle break was omitted and the thread was covered by a simple mantle cover.
There are also few photographs from war production in Czech factories, showing the production of JPz.38t where you can clearly see that every vehicle has the thread on the end of barrel. There is also a clip for German surrender, where you can see a passing by "Hetzer" with the muzzle break mounted on, so some commanders did use it (probably to lengthen the barrel life?). There are also some pictures from WWII field showing "Hetzer" with no thread cover mounted.
The name "HETZER" can be found in original documents.
Encore en service dans l’armée suisse dans les années 70,80
Bruce Compton has a very early made 38T with the same gun mantlet
And Comptons 38T has a working remote MG
Hetzer was more a tank destroyer (panzerjager/jagdpanzer) than an assault gun (sturmgeschutz).
OMG He mentioned modelers!!! Nerd Yay!
Just stopping by to say "IT'S NOT A HETZER." Thanks.
Very cool concept, poorly implemented. Its amazing the crews made the things effective at all.
Given the allied bombing, and the German circumstances, it's a fine vehicle, liked by the crews and did the business.
Silly nazis should have been building these and the stugs from the start with the 4 as the tank and then replace the 4 with panthers and tigers.
They wasted so much by having so many types of vehicles and wastes on tiger 2s, jagtigers and such.
Baby Sturmgeschutz
Was ein Käse,Dick und Doof bei der Arbeit.
How would you like to be a crew member inside the Hetzer in the summer time, 4 men hot and sweating in a cramped hot compartment with little ventilation maybe sitting in a ambush position for hours
Its a hertzer!
Lol
That guy sitting there looks pretty dry... Could you give him a glass of water at least?
Never was called "Hetzer"
Incorrect, there is actual war time official documentation referring to the Hetzer
Us it. Still up techs the invaders coming for our women
Heard solar powered tanks are doing quite well in the Ukraine Russia war
The wind powered didn’t go that well
😂😂😂😂😂
Zelensky will take it! How much?
I hate to say this, but aren't these just old Nazi fanboys with trainspotter mentalities? What, actually, is so important about these vehicles? Discuss.
Strange thing to say from a person who actually sought out and watched this clip on German armour from WW2. Are you a closet fanboy too?
I knew a guy in the Free Masons who had become and officer in the German military in 1943. He ended up in Hetzers and in two years of fighting on the Eastern Front he had 3 of them knocked out from under him. He didn't loose any crewmen with the TDs that were killed under him so that speaks to the crew survivability of the vehicle. He said he liked the vehicle and that the gun was pretty good even against the more and more modern Soviet tanks that were appearing at the time.
They were knocked out "under him"? Was he sitting on top?
I spent many years in tanks as an officer. In the mess all the commonwealth tank commanders (in their 60's reliving the old days) who had a tank killed under them would say it was knocked out from under them. Remember the cavalry longs for the old days with horses so a lot of the horse terminology remains in commonwealth tank units. I knew Rad well (Radley-Walters) and he told me the stories of having tanks knocked out from under him (the descriptor he used as well) including one time in which he woke up in a tree after being blown out his hatch.
I assume my German friend (Hetzer platoon leader) in the Free Masons had just picked up on the terminology from his decades since the war spent in Canada.
@@guarmiron5557good words
Schweeden made a lot of those nazi weapons
the 38t as a light tank and as this tank destroyer were chiefly produced by Skoda, a Czech company.
@@jamesh2321 ..yupp and who owned Skoda
@@fransnilsson7333 what are you driving at? When founded, it was part of the Austro-Hungarian state. Pilsen, the HQ, eventually became part of the emergent Czechoslvak state. There were investors from Volkswagen at one point, and even interest from the Asian market, but there is no record of Swedish ownership. The Landswerk tanks that look like Skoda werks products were license built copies. Kinda like how everyone and their brother licensed the FT.
@@fransnilsson7333 The Czechs? Certainly not Sweden...
@@jamesh2321 You are right..i appologise...Scania-vabis delivered some engines to the THN export variant, and sweden built some 250+ on licens
That beauty on the left........