The map, map icons, forge, shops, quest givers, etc. Anything related to the map it's top on this playtest. People give this feedback a lot on the last 2 playtest and you delivered in just 2 months. You are an amazing team and wish you the best. Keep working!
6:00 Auto-claiming duplicate items is a great qol change. 5:44 Removing slow after landing is not as cool, as those little details make game more nuanced and add to play potential. Like chasing down enemy and thinking "ok if he can keep on flying he will escape, but if i get him to fail I will catch him after landing cause of this little slow..." and so on. Overall good to hear from you guys again.
That's a fair point re: landing slow - we have had those discussions but do feel there's a lot of other ways to demonstrate mastery through traversal / chasing, like pathing or maintaining momentum in other ways. Landing slow IN PARTICULAR was just a thing the jump-spammers felt bad about. So we totally agree with the value but think there are other ways to hit it. GODOD TO HEAR FROM YOU TOO, BIGDEADANIMALS
I feel like this is going to be one of those games that's going to be so fun and chaotic to play that I'm going to find myself laughing at my misfortunes while playing it more than getting angry or being toxic.
The thought of giving everyone a melee is a really good idea, even if was just a push or something that doesn't do damage. Honestly really excited to see how it'll work with everyone's kit
Very hyped for the playtest!!! I hope gameplay feels close to league or battlerite gameplay wise. What hypes me the most is thats one big map like apex.... pleaseee let the game be good thanks for playtest invite❤❤❤ And thanks for producing Loki❤🙏💪🏻
I am thrilled about the news regarding melee heroes. That was the one thing I found lacking in the playtest, I am excited for whatever you will be cooking! lets gooo
So hyped for this playtest! Augments sound like a great addition, loved them in TFT already. This year's arena mode in LoL also had augments and changes in maps, and guess what - it was hella fun! Keep it up guys, really looking forward to this game. We need another big player next to Dota & League!
i dont know how it would be implemented, but I feel like a dashing melee character similar to the reworked Irelia could do well. high skill ceiling with mobility, and if balanced well, it can compete decently against the majority of ranged champs.
Will Australia/OCE be able to participate in future playtests? A healthy roster would likely have ~1/3 melee characters or more. Considering the colour palette and effects, it would be great to have options for the individual player to tone down overlapping effects (similar to how Lost Ark has it). Even though you DO get used to messy effects with time, if this game is going to be 4v4v4v4v4 this is going to get very messy. (Also would be great to be able to have a minimalist HP/Mana bar- they're very chunky and overbearing in the footage). I would prefer to see the models more robust like Battlerite, as it makes you feel ownership, weightiness of the character and makes it clear how to move around them, rather than the models appearing flat, janky, overstylized slideshows. Also err on the slower side of TTK. In later seasons and with players getting more experienced TTK almost always tends to lower in MOBAS and in FPS, which can lose the flavour or alienate new players, or that particular kind of player. Fine balance.
Is there a chance for a mode like League/ Dota2 with 3 lanes map and jungle with its towers&minions? Maybe even consider a simple 3vs3 with 1 lane and 1 jungle similar to Vainglory. It doesnt have to be perfect - just to broaden the interests of different playerbase. I can see similarities to Battlerite, which I tried out back then, but dropped since the Battleroyale mode was just not interesting for me as an original moba enjoyer. But the gameplay was pretty smooth.
Juat listening to these concepts I wanna say a few things: - A little more TTK is awesome! It kinda gives more time to adapt while not being TOO high that you just get one-shot if you find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time (my personal taste) - Following that last point, I will absolutely try using the Meele mechanic a lot as a movement option cause it sounds great! Both as a kind of risky offensive move and as an awesome reposition tool! - Storm Shifts sound like that extra variety each game needed to give Loki the best replayabity factor! If done correctly they could be tons of fun, otherwise they could be a pain. - Hype gives me "Kill leader" vibes which will feel good when you manage to outplay the Hype Squad in your game! - I love all of those little changes at the end (Both QoL like autopickup and balance like the landing slow removal)
Got to try the playtest and it has great potential, but right now there's too much to worry about especially for new players, to me anyway. With 5-7 abilities, possible 5 consumables, items, pve objectives and pvp, it's a lot on a battle royale map. Hopefully it's slimmed down.
Idk about the hype squad, its like championsquad in apex. The hyped should have a additional option others dont have, but if you kill the hypesquad u get bonus loot. For both sides it cant be to overpowered. I like the idea that the hypesquad can select the stormshift, maybe dont let them fully free choose and let them choose from idk three or five options.
not a fan of giving everyone access to the same ability. generally if every character has access to some "ability" it's a band-aid fix for a deeper issue like class imbalance etc. same reason LoL has "flash" and everyone takes it. it was pretty balanced early in its life, but now 10+ years later, characters abuse the spell for things that were never intended, and mobility creep has made the spell infinitely better on some characters than others. now they can never remove "flash" or it will effectively break the game. giving every character access to one tool means you have to design every future character & gameplay mechanic around it. seems great on paper, but can have unforeseen consequences down the line. a better approach is to ask why it's needed, which characters suffer the most without it, and how you can solve that problem without creating an imbalance. things like interactables in the environment, creative forms of CC, talent/skill upgrades, etc., are better alternatives than "give everyone X ability" to create parity.
oh thats like fall-off for bullets? actually sound like an interesting idea to fiddle with. And maybe slow sniper rifles may always deal full damage to still have long range fantasy option @@d.g135
I think the game is looking insanely promising... the only thing i dislike is that you say its a BIG emphasis on shooter. Id much rather prefer 50/50 on melee and ranged heroes, even some support thrown in
I really wanna play this game, But i hope you guys do a better job at balancing the game then Riot, Because in league there's no high risk high reward anymore on melee characters or characters with allot of mobility, Everyone has a dash ETC. Have a rock paper scizors system, So that situations are fair and when you do screw up or out play your opponent it's rewarding (K'sante i'm looking at you)
Have you concidered 3rd person view game mode? Also hoping for a badass ninja/stealth champion. 😄 P.S. When is the game going to be available for longer playtests? I'd love to give it a go. Great job on the game so far, loving every bit of it and your devs rock. Keep communicating with your players! Much love! 💚🖤
Making every hero melee is a big mistake. Playing as a marksman or playing as a melee hero are completely different game mechanics. Variety is the key to ensuring that each player finds a hero that resonates with them, which will ultimately make a person spend the most time playing the game.
Is there gonna be a one player squad mode?, I'm not much of a team player, I like to play solo w/e the game is, and I think there are many like me. Hope you success.
your time will come buddy be patient, just take it this way, the latter you get selected the better version of the game you'll get to play i signed up in 1st of july and just got my email yesterday
If there is ONE THING I do not want replicated in a new moba from league, it's stupid fast time to kill and twitchy mechanics on all characters. I think you've lost before you've begun. Check out Airmech, it already did this.
oh no, that just killed all of my hype for the game. I am so sad that you guys went in the fast TTK shooter direction. If anything, these games need to be slower, and more tactical, not faster. This sucks. God I was so excited for this game too. I really hope there's time to reconsider, I know I'm just one voice, but I was so excited for this game, and that's left me absolutely heartbroken. Please, don't ruin your game like this, it has so much potential.
the game used to be slower and it was fucking boring LMAO, there is still plenty of strategy and I would say the TTK is more comparable now to Overwatch than let's say Paladins
maybe don't be quick to judge and wait until you give it a try yourself, it's meaningless to have someone explain to you how a game will or will not work until you get a feel for it and form your judgement 👍
I get it that you have to be active and stuff like that but the number of people you invited to play is so small that these videos make no sense to us. Whatever changes you have made are relevant when 80% of the people here haven't even touched the game yet.
Calling it now. This game is gonna be as inventive as the game "GIGANTIC" but it's just gonna die like it.... Sad but it's the truth considering the playerbase and all that
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Character design looks so good.... thank you for making this game 😭😭
you're whalecum
The map, map icons, forge, shops, quest givers, etc. Anything related to the map it's top on this playtest. People give this feedback a lot on the last 2 playtest and you delivered in just 2 months. You are an amazing team and wish you the best. Keep working!
Hope this comes to Asia 🥺 it looks amazing!
6:00 Auto-claiming duplicate items is a great qol change.
5:44 Removing slow after landing is not as cool, as those little details make game more nuanced and add to play potential. Like chasing down enemy and thinking "ok if he can keep on flying he will escape, but if i get him to fail I will catch him after landing cause of this little slow..." and so on.
Overall good to hear from you guys again.
That's a fair point re: landing slow - we have had those discussions but do feel there's a lot of other ways to demonstrate mastery through traversal / chasing, like pathing or maintaining momentum in other ways. Landing slow IN PARTICULAR was just a thing the jump-spammers felt bad about. So we totally agree with the value but think there are other ways to hit it. GODOD TO HEAR FROM YOU TOO, BIGDEADANIMALS
I love the auto pick up , that’s a w, and pre picking perks also , allows you to actually build your character especially if you run the same thing
I feel like this is going to be one of those games that's going to be so fun and chaotic to play that I'm going to find myself laughing at my misfortunes while playing it more than getting angry or being toxic.
Loving the development philosophy and I'm super happy to be apart of the process!
that's an amazing patch to see, it's like a quality of life patch for a actual game not a beta version
Great changes across the board!
Hypesquad picking storm shifts would be insane
oh my god yes please
what if they get to choose 3 that it is randomized between
Definitely! Excited to see where this feature goes :)@@bladeprincess
I am so hyped for the *Hype* feature !
The thought of giving everyone a melee is a really good idea, even if was just a push or something that doesn't do damage. Honestly really excited to see how it'll work with everyone's kit
Going to playtest tomorrow for the first time, I am hyped!
I can't wait to get a key to try this game! You guys are making a good work in this game! Congratz!
Game looks so beautiful ❤ really like the art direction
Very hyped for the playtest!!! I hope gameplay feels close to league or battlerite gameplay wise. What hypes me the most is thats one big map like apex.... pleaseee let the game be good thanks for playtest invite❤❤❤
And thanks for producing Loki❤🙏💪🏻
I'm very excited! I really hope this game does well
I am thrilled about the news regarding melee heroes. That was the one thing I found lacking in the playtest, I am excited for whatever you will be cooking! lets gooo
So hyped for this playtest! Augments sound like a great addition, loved them in TFT already. This year's arena mode in LoL also had augments and changes in maps, and guess what - it was hella fun! Keep it up guys, really looking forward to this game. We need another big player next to Dota & League!
i dont know how it would be implemented, but I feel like a dashing melee character similar to the reworked Irelia could do well. high skill ceiling with mobility, and if balanced well, it can compete decently against the majority of ranged champs.
Can’t wait to try this game 😊
I really like this approach to test and optimize the game! Including a lot of feedback from users is so valuable!
thhankx for making this game love what you guys are doing and the vision you guys have for the game
wish you the very best love from bangladesh
Looks great, I'll be part of the playtests someday
this game looks amazing. been trying to get in a playtest since the first announcement.. can't wait to play when it releases!
looks great!
The play test was so good i loved the add of hype
i like the hype mechanic idea :)
I get to play tomorrow and I'm so excited :D
sounds dope! now let me in lol
A thematically appropriate counter attack would make melee feel better to play/outplay
Will Australia/OCE be able to participate in future playtests?
A healthy roster would likely have ~1/3 melee characters or more. Considering the colour palette and effects, it would be great to have options for the individual player to tone down overlapping effects (similar to how Lost Ark has it). Even though you DO get used to messy effects with time, if this game is going to be 4v4v4v4v4 this is going to get very messy. (Also would be great to be able to have a minimalist HP/Mana bar- they're very chunky and overbearing in the footage).
I would prefer to see the models more robust like Battlerite, as it makes you feel ownership, weightiness of the character and makes it clear how to move around them, rather than the models appearing flat, janky, overstylized slideshows.
Also err on the slower side of TTK. In later seasons and with players getting more experienced TTK almost always tends to lower in MOBAS and in FPS, which can lose the flavour or alienate new players, or that particular kind of player. Fine balance.
Living in asia and can't play the game. I'll be waiting for it though.
Is there a chance for a mode like League/ Dota2 with 3 lanes map and jungle with its towers&minions? Maybe even consider a simple 3vs3 with 1 lane and 1 jungle similar to Vainglory. It doesnt have to be perfect - just to broaden the interests of different playerbase. I can see similarities to Battlerite, which I tried out back then, but dropped since the Battleroyale mode was just not interesting for me as an original moba enjoyer. But the gameplay was pretty smooth.
HYPE IS SO COOL!!!! I REALLY LOVE THIS IDEA
Juat listening to these concepts I wanna say a few things:
- A little more TTK is awesome! It kinda gives more time to adapt while not being TOO high that you just get one-shot if you find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time (my personal taste)
- Following that last point, I will absolutely try using the Meele mechanic a lot as a movement option cause it sounds great! Both as a kind of risky offensive move and as an awesome reposition tool!
- Storm Shifts sound like that extra variety each game needed to give Loki the best replayabity factor! If done correctly they could be tons of fun, otherwise they could be a pain.
- Hype gives me "Kill leader" vibes which will feel good when you manage to outplay the Hype Squad in your game!
- I love all of those little changes at the end (Both QoL like autopickup and balance like the landing slow removal)
Hey thats me in the hype squad
HYPED!!!!!
Got to try the playtest and it has great potential, but right now there's too much to worry about especially for new players, to me anyway. With 5-7 abilities, possible 5 consumables, items, pve objectives and pvp, it's a lot on a battle royale map. Hopefully it's slimmed down.
finally comeback of battlerite.
Idk about the hype squad, its like championsquad in apex. The hyped should have a additional option others dont have, but if you kill the hypesquad u get bonus loot. For both sides it cant be to overpowered. I like the idea that the hypesquad can select the stormshift, maybe dont let them fully free choose and let them choose from idk three or five options.
Looks so cool! I registered for the playtest + i joined the discord yet i did not receive a key yet, are they still being given? Thank you!
I MADE IT CHAT 4:54 !!!!!!!!!
Just waiting on my invite so I can try it. Still looks really cool
not a fan of giving everyone access to the same ability.
generally if every character has access to some "ability" it's a band-aid fix for a deeper issue like class imbalance etc. same reason LoL has "flash" and everyone takes it. it was pretty balanced early in its life, but now 10+ years later, characters abuse the spell for things that were never intended, and mobility creep has made the spell infinitely better on some characters than others. now they can never remove "flash" or it will effectively break the game.
giving every character access to one tool means you have to design every future character & gameplay mechanic around it. seems great on paper, but can have unforeseen consequences down the line.
a better approach is to ask why it's needed, which characters suffer the most without it, and how you can solve that problem without creating an imbalance. things like interactables in the environment, creative forms of CC, talent/skill upgrades, etc., are better alternatives than "give everyone X ability" to create parity.
What about making melees tankier? So that they can take on average 1-2 extra hits?
Maybe then it tilts towards "melee spintowin in your face and you cant do anything" that was at 2:06
@@bigdeadanimals what about melees taking more damage when near a ranged and less damage when far away?
oh thats like fall-off for bullets? actually sound like an interesting idea to fiddle with. And maybe slow sniper rifles may always deal full damage to still have long range fantasy option @@d.g135
I think the game is looking insanely promising... the only thing i dislike is that you say its a BIG emphasis on shooter. Id much rather prefer 50/50 on melee and ranged heroes, even some support thrown in
I really wanna play this game, But i hope you guys do a better job at balancing the game then Riot, Because in league there's no high risk high reward anymore on melee characters or characters with allot of mobility, Everyone has a dash ETC. Have a rock paper scizors system, So that situations are fair and when you do screw up or out play your opponent it's rewarding (K'sante i'm looking at you)
giving every hero a reflect is sick as helllllllll
No. It cool idea
thats what i mean@@Voromasu
Have you concidered 3rd person view game mode? Also hoping for a badass ninja/stealth champion. 😄 P.S. When is the game going to be available for longer playtests? I'd love to give it a go. Great job on the game so far, loving every bit of it and your devs rock. Keep communicating with your players! Much love! 💚🖤
Is bunny hero new? Never seen her before.
SAFELOCK!!!!
Yeah the melee character problem is gonna feel like melee characters in an FPS. It's incredibly hard to make them interesting.
good job
Shout out battlerite
I missed it sad
Battlerite Royale 1.5
Making every hero melee is a big mistake. Playing as a marksman or playing as a melee hero are completely different game mechanics. Variety is the key to ensuring that each player finds a hero that resonates with them, which will ultimately make a person spend the most time playing the game.
Joined lol veteran here
is there gotta be Asia lol got some friends to play with now
Is this game will have support on macos?
anyone know when they are sending out new access codes?
Is there gonna be a one player squad mode?, I'm not much of a team player, I like to play solo w/e the game is, and I think there are many like me.
Hope you success.
hello battlerite :)
Just found this and was hyped since I've been dying for a new moba but of course it's another battle royale game rip
when is the open beta comming ?
I reallly hope that the game make til mobile, cauz it gonna be wild, hope the game gets successfull as fast as possible, so that i don't wait allot
:rocketW:
Okay i finished the video and OMG im even more hyped🥹
Gameplay looks crazy high skillcaped, and very fast
Anyone know what mic she's using?
hyperx quadcast in white!
thanks! Looking forward to the playtest @@SUPERVIVE
i will be best player in this game :)
Just made my account
I know you reading this coment, sooooo can i get a key please? I signing up to playtest like 3 months ago. 😞
your time will come buddy be patient, just take it this way, the latter you get selected the better version of the game you'll get to play
i signed up in 1st of july and just got my email yesterday
If there is ONE THING I do not want replicated in a new moba from league, it's stupid fast time to kill and twitchy mechanics on all characters. I think you've lost before you've begun. Check out Airmech, it already did this.
Mobile version plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This game gonna Kill League of Legends mark my words!
not really
Not a fan of a punch lol
too much bla bla give asia players playtest?
oh no, that just killed all of my hype for the game. I am so sad that you guys went in the fast TTK shooter direction. If anything, these games need to be slower, and more tactical, not faster. This sucks. God I was so excited for this game too. I really hope there's time to reconsider, I know I'm just one voice, but I was so excited for this game, and that's left me absolutely heartbroken. Please, don't ruin your game like this, it has so much potential.
I can asure you it's still super tactical. It would feel really slow and sluggish if ttk was lower
Tbh the game plays amazing. Imo you still need to be tactical, and flights also feel great.
gotta be tactical AND fast which is even better @@Katarinq
the game used to be slower and it was fucking boring LMAO, there is still plenty of strategy and I would say the TTK is more comparable now to Overwatch than let's say Paladins
maybe don't be quick to judge and wait until you give it a try yourself, it's meaningless to have someone explain to you how a game will or will not work until you get a feel for it and form your judgement 👍
looks awful
it's pre-alpha, give it time :)
I get it that you have to be active and stuff like that but the number of people you invited to play is so small that these videos make no sense to us. Whatever changes you have made are relevant when 80% of the people here haven't even touched the game yet.
If one of your friends get invite, you can get referred and theres a very high chance you will get a key!
these videos were originally for internal use, would you rather not see these at all until you get in?
Calling it now. This game is gonna be as inventive as the game "GIGANTIC" but it's just gonna die like it.... Sad but it's the truth considering the playerbase and all that