#nhl #hockey #vancouvercanucks Canucks prospect Nils Hoglander scored a slick shootout goal last night.. we break down this move & more in todays video!
Agreed. He’s probably my favorite player ever to watch. One of the most unique skill sets of all time. I can’t think of a single player that really has a similar game. I get why he’s hated as a person but as a player he really doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
Amazing move but not everyone can do it. Anyone in the NHL can do it - AGAINST A BEER LEAGUE GOALIE. Some NHLers can do it just before or after practice. Fewer can do it during practice. A select few can pull this off in shootouts. You can probably count on one hand the number of players who can do this in regulation time.
Any goalie will tell you that it's tough to get a read on the direction of the puck as it comes off the back of a stick. Your brain picks up on subconscious cues and subtleties, the blade of stick is one of them. I think that gives a shooter a potential advantage when the goalie doesn't know where it's going, and sometimes- even the shooter isn't entirely sure either.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned but once on the ice, respect for the opponent goes out the window. If you're not "man enough" to handle something like this, it's time to consider another line of sport.
That's just not true. You may want to win and have a crazy desire to, but there aren't many cases of athletes not having respect and common decency to their opponent. That being said, it's just another way of describing a sick play.
That's not true. Respect takes many forms. Throwing a backhander at the goalie isn't disrespect. Disprespect is high sticking, slashing, boarding, kneeing, slewfooting.
I've thought of this move before. You can generate a lot of power on the backhand and it can be hard to see where it's going...the only downside might be you don't know where it's going either.
The idea behind the move is that you have a better shot on the forehand than the backhand. So faking backhand and switching wide to the forehand is a real threat that the goalie has to be considering. Goalies will sometimes leave the backhand side a bit more open to compensate for the anticipated quick shift to the forehand. A bonus is that if the goalie leaves the 5-hole open in order to slide across to the forehand shot, you can slip it between the legs, too. There are a lot of options; it is a very difficult move to defend, when done well.
*lol, hockey has such a funny culture. It's disrespectful to score in a flashy or deceptive way, but it's just part of the game when someone chops at your ankles or gives you a crosscheck to the face after scoring a goal when the play is over.*
If I was a goalie, i would start out of the crease and then extend the goalie stick fully out as the player starts so that the player’s only real option will be to deke unless they are willing to take a backhanded shot from further out which I doubt.
Yes, but the play develops quickly, and if it is a surprise the goalie has never faced before, the poke-check might not be the first thing that comes to mind. It's a tricky play.
@@dontvoteforanybody3715 I am not talking about a poke check. I am talking about having the stick fully extended as they come in. It truly annoys offensive players. I used to use it on defence. It will force them left or right rather than straight on. Also, the goalie should occasionally body check the forward to keep them honest so they aren’t so willing to come in so close and fast.
@@livewithaffection6905 Stick straight out leaves the 5-hole completely open. Leading with the front leg / skate just pushes the stick away. Forwards are not coming in fast on this play; you go to body-check them, and you are the one looking foolish. These guys have more skills than the beer-league players you face, I'm gonna guess.
@@dontvoteforanybody3715 I am not the greatest, but the unexpected works on everybody. I think goalies get too entrained in their crease when a body check on an incoming player would suffice especially coming in from the side. And, even if it doesn’t work, it sends a message that will help the goalie in the future.
@user-do3nx6bu8o it isnt. At all. Doesnt matter the goalie a onetimer across crease aint stoppable minus luck. A shootout is skill on both sides. Or are goalies not skilled?
I'm pretty sure it was just the fill spin as the puck would move backward. I think if you spin back as long as the momentum of the skater and puck are still going toward the goalie, you're good.
@Teemo Quinton That's why Hockey reffing is so bad though. It's unclear what the rules actually are because the written laws are more like suggestions.
For shootouts - wish they could put a back checker on the far blue line who can't move until the puck is touched... would reduce a lot of these non-hockey situations.
I’d like to see a big goalie like Steward Skinner just lay across the goal line and see if he can stop the puck with his stick halfway up covering the space between him and the crossbar. Now that would be worth calling disrespectful.
Ummmmmm... Hockey Psychologist.... just asking yourself and any others... the psychology behind this manouvre, basically, is to a/ confuse the goalie who has never before faced this attack angle - for a moment (while the goalie's mind is trying to process this unorthodox method)... messing with their timing, rhythm, and confidence... then tuck it away in the opening? and/or b/ confuse an experienced goalie with a tad bit of fear, now knowing the goalie has multiple tasks to focus on, throwing off timing, rhythm, and confidence and as a side effect ~ hoping they don't appear on a CZcams reel being undressed and "m-bare-assed" for all to see?
Malik overtime goal is definitely one to consider especially since it was his first goal of the year for him
Malik, not a noted goal scorer has not scored this year.. Malik in on Kolzig WAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Best part about the Malik between the legs is his team mates reaction 😊 pretty sure they all come out and mob him at center after. Great moment
Also the salute to the crowd after he scored. "It was nothing..."
Nice to see Ribeiro get some love. He might have had some attitude problems, but he was definitely fun to watch.
One of my favorite players when he was active. Such a shame that he ended up where he is.
Agreed. He’s probably my favorite player ever to watch. One of the most unique skill sets of all time. I can’t think of a single player that really has a similar game. I get why he’s hated as a person but as a player he really doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
I love the Kucherov no shot goal too. One of my favorites.
The Gagner is super underrated too. What a great movie he had.
Amazing move but not everyone can do it. Anyone in the NHL can do it - AGAINST A BEER LEAGUE GOALIE. Some NHLers can do it just before or after practice. Fewer can do it during practice. A select few can pull this off in shootouts. You can probably count on one hand the number of players who can do this in regulation time.
The confidence it takes to do this.
That kids going places.
No surprise why NYR wanted him badly . Nucks actually making good decisions as of the last 2 days
I hope he doesn’t do much in the big leagues
@@tayebusiness7129 lol probably a knights fan
@@tayebusiness7129 You hope a indidivual player isn't successful? That seems pretty silly.
@@trevorwiersma1950 I meant I hope, he doesnt do much in the big leagues. lol
Dean Youngblood.
The way he starts by kicking the puck with his skate.
Texier's poke shot is one of my favorites.
I love this goal is super cool Elias Petterssons Forsberg goal is always my favorite
The ' Martin St-Louis '
Oh yeah Marty used to do this a fair bit takes a load of confidence in your ability to make the shot.
Any goalie will tell you that it's tough to get a read on the direction of the puck as it comes off the back of a stick. Your brain picks up on subconscious cues and subtleties, the blade of stick is one of them. I think that gives a shooter a potential advantage when the goalie doesn't know where it's going, and sometimes- even the shooter isn't entirely sure either.
Maybe I'm old-fashioned but once on the ice, respect for the opponent goes out the window. If you're not "man enough" to handle something like this, it's time to consider another line of sport.
That's just not true. You may want to win and have a crazy desire to, but there aren't many cases of athletes not having respect and common decency to their opponent. That being said, it's just another way of describing a sick play.
That's not true. Respect takes many forms. Throwing a backhander at the goalie isn't disrespect. Disprespect is high sticking, slashing, boarding, kneeing, slewfooting.
I've thought of this move before. You can generate a lot of power on the backhand and it can be hard to see where it's going...the only downside might be you don't know where it's going either.
That's the beauty though... you don't telegraph. LOL
The idea behind the move is that you have a better shot on the forehand than the backhand. So faking backhand and switching wide to the forehand is a real threat that the goalie has to be considering. Goalies will sometimes leave the backhand side a bit more open to compensate for the anticipated quick shift to the forehand. A bonus is that if the goalie leaves the 5-hole open in order to slide across to the forehand shot, you can slip it between the legs, too. There are a lot of options; it is a very difficult move to defend, when done well.
Just did this in practice and it was nasty.
Patrick Kane Vs Marc Andre Fleury is all time disrespect
*lol, hockey has such a funny culture. It's disrespectful to score in a flashy or deceptive way, but it's just part of the game when someone chops at your ankles or gives you a crosscheck to the face after scoring a goal when the play is over.*
No Nylander ot goal?
You should make a video about the Meier trade.
If I was a goalie, i would start out of the crease and then extend the goalie stick fully out as the player starts so that the player’s only real option will be to deke unless they are willing to take a backhanded shot from further out which I doubt.
Yes, but the play develops quickly, and if it is a surprise the goalie has never faced before, the poke-check might not be the first thing that comes to mind. It's a tricky play.
@@dontvoteforanybody3715
I am not talking about a poke check. I am talking about having the stick fully extended as they come in. It truly annoys offensive players. I used to use it on defence. It will force them left or right rather than straight on. Also, the goalie should occasionally body check the forward to keep them honest so they aren’t so willing to come in so close and fast.
@@livewithaffection6905 Stick straight out leaves the 5-hole completely open. Leading with the front leg / skate just pushes the stick away. Forwards are not coming in fast on this play; you go to body-check them, and you are the one looking foolish. These guys have more skills than the beer-league players you face, I'm gonna guess.
@@dontvoteforanybody3715
I am not the greatest, but the unexpected works on everybody. I think goalies get too entrained in their crease when a body check on an incoming player would suffice especially coming in from the side. And, even if it doesn’t work, it sends a message that will help the goalie in the future.
Shootout is still a stupid way to end a game. Neat move though.
Agreed, even 3v3 rarely makes it to a shootout. Just continue 3v3 until it's over. Hell, even 2v2 would be more interesting.
@@JohnB-mo4kq 2v2 is just who gets the onetimer first
@@TeemoQuinton Better than a shootout lol
@user-do3nx6bu8o it isnt. At all. Doesnt matter the goalie a onetimer across crease aint stoppable minus luck. A shootout is skill on both sides.
Or are goalies not skilled?
Ok boomer
Best shootout goal: The original Peter Forsberg
I've used this move for decades. TBH I never understood why more people don't use it. Goalies rarely know how to react to backhand shots.
What’s beuty for the hog he is my favourite player they need to bring him back up
Welcome to the Crosby show is my favourite
I thought they made it illegal to skate backwards to the goalie in the shootout
I'm pretty sure it was just the fill spin as the puck would move backward. I think if you spin back as long as the momentum of the skater and puck are still going toward the goalie, you're good.
@@shortydudee1214 This is pretty much how it works. The puck cant stop or go backward is the main thing.
Wasn't a full spin that's why.
U can’t skate backwards anymore in a shootout or penalty shot (in the NHL), so I don’t think we’ll be seeing it in the NHL anytime soon.
awespme
I was convinced the move was banned
Just like the spinorama
and it was on a Colorado Eagles goalie :(
Nobody referencing Marty St. Louis here? This is his move.
Wait what creativity ? St Louis did it all the time ?
Great goal - backhand body language is hard for the goalie to read.
Ales kotalik was money
The pucks momentum goes backwards towards center ice.
That happens everytime somebody does most stick moves in shootouts. At that minimal level of movement? Yeah nobody ever will or should call it
But overall vector motion is forward.
@Teemo Quinton That's why Hockey reffing is so bad though. It's unclear what the rules actually are because the written laws are more like suggestions.
@@billytessio6326 agreed. I think it's more body momentum that matters to the refs.
@@blahblahblahblah6546 It is indeed forward momentum, the puck has nothing to do with it.
That was gross
Maybe because the goalie was busy checking out his butt
For shootouts - wish they could put a back checker on the far blue line who can't move until the puck is touched... would reduce a lot of these non-hockey situations.
Or release a gorilla that's been on steroids for a year.
@@JohnB-mo4kq Imagine getting hip checked by a silverback gorilla. That would hurt.
@@32a34a That would keep players moving.
I’d like to see a big goalie like Steward Skinner just lay across the goal line and see if he can stop the puck with his stick halfway up covering the space between him and the crossbar. Now that would be worth calling disrespectful.
Sick move, but isn't that the puck moving backwards?
“Canucks Prospect” Nils Hoglander. 😂
I don't think a youtuber with zero credible playing history should be giving NHLers scoring advice.
Ummmmmm... Hockey Psychologist.... just asking yourself and any others... the psychology behind this manouvre, basically, is to a/ confuse the goalie who has never before faced this attack angle - for a moment (while the goalie's mind is trying to process this unorthodox method)... messing with their timing, rhythm, and confidence... then tuck it away in the opening? and/or b/ confuse an experienced goalie with a tad bit of fear, now knowing the goalie has multiple tasks to focus on, throwing off timing, rhythm, and confidence and as a side effect ~ hoping they don't appear on a CZcams reel being undressed and "m-bare-assed" for all to see?
Nothing special here. Just a bad goalie.