The Biggest Sim Racing SCANDALS in 2023!
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- 2023 was a wild year. For sim racing as well. A lot of drama transpired in the space with harrowing consequences at times. From cheating scandals to the F1 Simracing going under, everything has been present and we summarize everything in this video.
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What about Rennsport using third-party code when they claimed to build a new physics engine from grounds up?
They were using some code from an engine which they paid the licence for. So in the end there wasn't any breach of IP or wrong doing by the devs. No studio builds a game entirely from the ground up so their claims were the usual exaggeration we hear in marketing.
@@floding22 While this is true, they were claiming they built their own engine from the beginning. I don't care if they are using some physics engine they bought. But they lied by omission, and that's why people were upset.
@@floding22 I never said anything about breach. And I wouldn't call that exaggeration, but a straight up lie. But I guess what you're saying is that straight up lies are a standard in marketing nowadays. Still no excuse for me though.
@@alpha007org People were only really upset about the prosect of plagerising RF2 and I don't see people really caring much that they started of using isiMotor2 as a base which plenty of games have done and still do.
I agree that they were being dishonest with the marketing but everyone understands the disconnects between dev teams and the marketing teams in most studio and to take everything said with a grain of salt.
Hearing something was built "ground up" only for it to be an exaggeration isn't very new or uncommon.
@@floding22 Well Kunos built their sim entirely from the ground. Also, it was Rennsport who claimed they built the thing from the ground up. So your second point is not true.
Cheating in a simulator is the lowest of lows.
The first one just a fraction was mentioned. I watched live because of Jenson Button who i supported during F1 and spent alot of time after watching proof replays what was going on. JB spoke about his and his teams behaviour when confronted and he fobbed it off as just a game and didn't care but they were sponsored and major money was at stake. Shameful.
Typical
The Williams BS is why I stopped watching eSport racing, and no longer follow their F1 team. Winning at all cost is NOT the name of the game.
9:31- I love how the asthma dude took a hit from that device- and he was probably like "lets eat them for dinner"
I was looking for a comment of someone talking about that, lol
I also liked the 24h of Le Mans Virtual with the red flags…
How about banning Williams Esports Team from iRacing after that?
It seems no one cares about a healthy online gameplay... They banned just 1 driver.
It's sad because you never know when someone's cheating just like in Counter Strike and that made me leave both racing games and CS.
It's even worse when you think about it, as Spetz is not a legal adult so that just makes the Williams team look even scummier.
annoying thing is this kinda stuff happens irl at a lesser degree almost every race anyway, politics? is part of racing sadly
We are going to run out of investors willing to lose money on pro sim racing. We demand more and more sophistication and complexity in these events. That costs money, but doesn't generate any more viewership than a Mario Kart competition. This when even the friends and family of the featured competitors find something else to do on race day.
Idk how on earth organizers still haven't figured out the easiest way to make sure no one cheats in a tournament/championship - just make all the participating drivers install and run programs like Ammyy Admin or some other app that shares desktop and admins/stewards can monitor each participant's task manager and background processes. If you don't agree to that, you simply don't take part in the race. It's as simple as that.
but the cheats are running on a 2nd pc and are undetectable.
@@aeroflopper In order to run the cheats on a 2nd PC, you have to hook the app to the running game. Same as with a VM. It's a piece of cake tracing all the processes linked to the game. Even a 4th grader knows basics like these. Someone just has to do it. The simple fact is that organizers are simply lazy and all they care about is the ad revenue money from the event. If it doesn't directly bring more money, it's not worth the investment. I mean even in the late 90s and early 2000s Quake 2 tournaments had people monitoring the players.
@QuantumS1ngularity ive been saying it all still has to go through the ram, thats where to find all the cheats. hardware included
that would imply a lot of new employees to do that monitoring. the profit driven people running these events wouldn't do it.
Motorsport Games is a company that has a larger amount of ambition than cash on hand. Instead of taking it slow by launching high quality games at a slow pace and build a good reputation, they launched on the stock exchange before even releasing a single in house game, attempted to make games at the same rate of time as AAA rated companies that took decades to achieve, pass off hobby quality games that was beyond saving, have a bunch of morons running the company that I wouldn’t even trust to run a cake stand at a carnival and burn through cash like it was nothing.
I want Le Mans Ultimate to succeed for the sake of Studio 397 but not for Motorsport Games. When… not if but when MSG claims bankruptcy, hopefully S397 has an out so they don’t get dragged down with the idiots at the head of MSG.
People just love, and think it's ok to cheat these days, more than I've ever seen, and im 40. And most overlords, or whatever you want to call them, just let it happen..
Tbf, Ronhaar is far a better driver in F1 23 than in F1 22. So does this apply to Opmeer.
Things between Opmeer and Ronhaar simmered down way before the LAN event. After the SPA PSGL race in which Ronhaar called Opmeer a "f*cking clown" and Opmeer called Ronhaar a "d*ckhead", tensions between both of them reduced.
By the end of the PSGL season, both follwed to one another again on Twitter (same with Jarno and Alfie).
And yeah, Jarno was not the only one sceptic about Ronhaar. Rasmussen, Bereznay or Longuet also believed that.
Therefore, did Ronhaar cheat on F1 22? Maybe, who knows. Does Ronhaar cheat on F1 23? Definitely not.
This is why I don't bother with online racing its corrupt and full of snowflakes that spit there dummies out iff it's not going there way.
Cheating is so rife just take any race leaderboards and look at the leaders times there a joke.
Take rallying for instance some stages they have a time of 00.01 for a 5mile stage I can't evern get off the starting line in that time.. or the people whom spend hrs finding short cuts in the game.. I'm afraid it's ruined by bad sportsmanship spoilt kids bad losers.. so I don't bother I just stick the AI on max put the game on its hardest setting and enjoy my racing...
Simple solution.
race with friends in for fun tournaments n stuff you'll love it
i will never get over the 'humble' leglerg intro
Makes me sad thinking a grow man would cheat at a kids games. No honor among the lesser generations that’s for sure.
I once caught my dad cheating at PGA Golf on the Genesis / Megadrive. He'd worked out that he could take a mulligan in a tournament as long as he hit the reset button before his ball had come to rest. He was deeply ashamed at being caught red handed. I didn't admit to him that the same cheat had allowed me to post a record round in the low 50s.
Motorsport Games downfall reflects exactly how shit everything they made is.
I think all PC players shouldn't be allowed to play in tournaments anymore, or just put them in their own separate tournaments. Cause there is to many cheating in the PC world honestly with any game now a days. Xbox and playstation drivers lap times don't even come close to them by miles with same racing setups. Actions always speak louder than words.
Is that Williams esport Team related to the Williams f1 Team?
Yes, it is their esports team
Should have the new Forza on here too. I know its not a sim but it's still terrible on wheel for being "BULIT FROM DAH GROUND UP" after 6 years...
It feels really good with a Fanatec CSL Direct Drive with the right settings.
I can't believe this! S***
Your infos about Alvaro where wrong. He was in a other league race, not F1 Esports event and Codemasters F1 games dont have any anticheat implementet.
Probably the most cringiest win celebration 💀
Looks like racing sim works the same way as real racing after all, lot's of cheating, companies going bankrupt
Opmeer is frankly classless. The Ronhaar allegations were all bullshit, frankly he's lost all credibility to me.
6:17 F1 22 definitely, 23 there’s a chance he’s legit. Dan Hawkins should still be investigated for his lack of investigating and dismissals on the issues on F1 22 though
He is just better than Opmeer who is a a pur hater and jealous guy! Maybe he forgot that he won his championships not on LAN aswell? Ronhaar didn't cheat and is a better driver
@@YaphetS6 22 wasn’t on lan, also it’s spelled pure. Opmeer doesn’t hate Ronhaar he just hates what he did during 2022
I never said 22 was on LAN, I said that 21 & 20 when Opmeer won it wasn't on LAN aswell so he maybe cheated too? What did Ronhaar do in 2022 that Lucas didn't do? Opmeer is just a jealous nerd!@@ic3man
Heres the biggest cheat sllueing them to drivebin any other view other than full cockpit
Willlams racing in simracing just cheaters with dark shades actions
The "industry problem" is too many games chasing too few customers. Kind of like the North American videogame crash of '83.
... man kunos.
Correct me if im wrong do they have controversies
FAX
480p? Such a good video deserves better quality
I got 2160, maybe it's your device that's the issue
No doubt some of the top players can cheat. There is being fast and then there is popular CZcamsr fast. I think it's a mix but definately some are being allowed something on certain games because they are helping to promote the game. The Williams thing I think was blown up too big. They did cheat, but really the game maker had allowed the player to use the strip of tarmac they used, it could be seen as a risky sharp attempt at bending the rules that didn't pay off. Just don't do it again.. More serious are people who like I said are actually manipulating the code to go quicker, corner easier etc..
man do i HATE EA
Álvaro was testing and accidentally entered the race with cheats on. Pretty sure he didn't even start the race due to having to restart the client
Codemasters and EA said that they never asked someone to test cheats! Try again
half of the f1 players were cheating at that time
Lol what a surprise top split drivers cheating? Nnooooo
Iracing stil the best platform..F1 game isnt a sim either
Lol ea aint getting shit iRacing wins again
F1 is just a joke, like it is in RL
MaF1a
Wow iRacing look like a 2000 game. 😂😂😂😂
Ruination of OL sim racing blueprint. 1.Race for money. 2. Allow Team racing. 3. Encourage/promote e-racing forums. 4. No governing body. 5. Utilize sponsor engines with financial incentives. 6. invite streamers with financial ties to e-racing setups. 7. Promote and broadcast races with certain financial compensations (not publicized)8. Control viewing and in-car/actions decisions. in real time.9. Disable damage and nerf pit-stop timing. 10. Allow cheaters to re-register.
You have missed out on major things that have happened and even missed out major details on what you covered. Put more research into your videos please. This seems like a very low effort post. Not what i expected from you.
About Ronhaar and your "big issue".. Stfu...
The biggest drama in sim racing imho is the brain washed AMS2 fan boys who spend all day trying to tell people with common sense that the game isn’t straight ass.
What's worth buying cars and tracks in now besides iracing?
To be fair it ain't all bad, the graphics are good, loads of tracks and cars, great sound, but the problem is you literally have to overdrive the car so hard and just slide in every corner in order to get the fastest laptimes, and that is disappointing.
Watching sim racing is a bore.
You know how sad your generation is when your consistently caught cheating ? Funny it’s never older people. Hmmm.
Cause they don't play E-Sports professionally....
Oh nooo. Older generations have been known to be the most noble people. They never cheated in anything.
i racing i so outdated grapphics look like shit. old game . assetto corsa compitizione is 10 times better
Calling the pole lap in iRacing cheating is unfair, cheating is using something that is not available to everyone, but thats not what Williams did, everyone had equal chance of doing the exact same thing, Williams was just better at it, I dont think the driver setting the pole lap should be punished, but the ignoring blue flags and intentionally blocking cars should be
Was it against the sporting code? If there was an explicit instruction for example to not use the apron at Daytona (like there was), then it is cheating.
@@redluca56 as far ad I know the rules did not say no to stuff like this
The apron is considered out of bounds for everyone including Williams Esports, it wasn't just some gray area that Williams exploited, it just so happens that they tried to avoid anyone looking at them including the officials but they were caught by other drivers
@@facundootero7973 did the rules state that it was not allowed?
@@SDRaygon Yes, it's explicity stated in the iRacing sporting code that the road under the appron is not permited to be used
Stop pretending like F1 esports is the biggest racing esports series out there. It just factually is not.
What are we missing, which one is bigger? :) -Michel
If we go by prize pool, it literally is. Yes there are individual events that have historically paid out more, but as far as a series goes, none come close.