I just received a Kurono Grand Mori with the green Urushi dial. It is, in my opinion, a grave disservice to anyone watching this video to say that Kurono watches ..."are pretty low quality". At least in the case of the watch I own, the dial and case finishing are as good as anything around, and clearly demonstrate that there is plenty of hand labor involved.
I am also hurt, by Federico's words. I love Kurono Tokyo, and I'm glad they are trying to combat the flippers. It does hurt the value, but also gives anyone a chance to purchase one.
Fed, it is a small small world -- I just bought the same H. Moser model you are wearing last week, but with the red fume dial. Mine came with a black rubber strap from the AD. I love the look and feel and am so happy to add my first H. Moser to my collection since they only make 1500 watches/year!
I used my CC when I bought my SMP300 because 1) it was a new enough card where they offered 12 months of no interest and 2) I got a $300 welcome bonus AND cash back rewards on the purchase. Had it all paid off in about 3 months
I financed my first watch. It was 0% for 12 months. I did it because of the free money. I got tired of the payment in month 2 and paid it off. I have the money to buy cash.. but I take 0% often. My 2nd watch I wish that I used my credit card for the pts, but I used my debit card. I will also do layaway sometimes also. Because I want a watch, but won't buy one unless I accomplish something. Being eager to pay it off, I work harder to have an accomplishment. I'm all over the place.
I have a couple of tuning fork Omegas. I can say that the only place that I have found that can service them is through Omega, and Omega charges $1200 for a service due to it being a "special" caliber.
Ive bought two of my watches here in the UK using in store interest free finance. If you are responsible , put down a decent deposit and can make the payments its a great tool for acquiring a watch
Great way to avoid the “how much was that watch?” that I heard from The Pontiff’s channel: He said he responds that it was a gift, so he doesn’t really know. Not exactly honest, but a safe swerve!
You might get away with just simply saying “it’s a gift” with a smile and stop there. That’s not dishonest. It’s in fact a gift to yourself; and you never say anything about not knowing the price.
I have bought watches on finance (still paying for one lol) but I had the money cash. I had recently moved to a new country and it was a good way to get credit history
Use a credit card to get the points but but you’re nuts if you do that without being able to pay it off in one go and pay that insane interest on a want rather than a need
Depends on the financing. If you can take a loan at near 0% you would be a fool not to. Invest the lump sum to return a higher rate than the loan. If you’re buying on a credit card with 19-23% interest that you’ll pay off over many months then you’re a fool and should save up instead.
Fed, I’ve been following you for years. Pretty much when you started your channel was recommended to me and you’ve really grown on me. I stopped looking at watches in the meantime but your channel is the only one I still follow. Let me buy you a pint if you’re ever in the Uk!
I’ve been thinking of going the financing route for my first luxury watch. At or near 0% financing I know I could invest the money for the watch and pay off any financing charges while also making more money on it. Hopefully by the time I’ve paid off the watch my investment would be enough to buy a second one.
Farer and Aquastar Deepstar are my favorite micro brands I'm actually eyeing a Panerai with the El primero movement. I definitely prefer older Panerai same with Rolex actually. I definitely prefer before the maxi case sizes and pre ceramic. Even Tissot and Zodiac were so much better back in the day. Same goes for Movado now the brand is a glorified fashion watch
The way I see it is, if you can afford to buy the watch multiple times in full right now, then you can afford the watch. Then after that if you wanna buy it in full or finance it, I think either is a fine choice. Just don't go into credit card debt to buy it lol that should be obvious to people but unfortunately it isn't.
Gentleman's answers in the Gentleman's watch world. Very good essential oriented video 👍Have you heard from our friend Bold and bankrupt , last time I saw him on you tube he was trying to escape from Ukraine 🇺🇦 with his American pal Johnny
Greetings from England , great vid as always . So true about tuning forks/early quartz , plus they can corrupt my wireless ! Recently , sold my last two, for good prices to new collectors , Omega hz and bulova spaceview, as I was always paranoid that the next time I wanted to wear one they would have stopped working .
I have bought a few watches on interest free credit. When one is paid I buy another. I don’t miss Forty or fifty dollars a month and regard interest free watches as freebies.
If an adult wants to buy an expensive watch on finance, how is that anyone else's business?! If they have dependents who suffer because of it, then no, that's not alright. Otherwise, if you've earned the money you should spend it how you damn well please.
I’m not sure if I heard you correctly, it sounded like you said financing through PP, interest free was “stupid”? So paying high interest rates on a CC is ok? I would think the opposite.
No, he said going into credit card debt for a watch and paying massive amounts of interest when an interest free option is available on the website was stupid. You're agreeing with each other.
Hey no links this time? Normally would not look but this time I did and no links :-(.....just wanting to make sure you all don't lose folks for sale! Love the content!
Mr Federico you were out of pocket for your comment on Kurono Tokyo. These are high quality watches. Unless you can back up you comment with facts or a hands on, I suggest you desist from making such statements that might tarnish your credibility !!
"I generally prefer to not discuss watch prices, as there are a broad range of factors that can affect the price of any watch at various points in time. I can tell you it wasn't cheap..."
How much for your watch? How much for your car, house, shoes, .......nobody's business and in poor taste to ask! Only qualifier if you are talking to another watch nerd who really cares!
I would make an exception for someone looking to buy the same watch and they’re trying to gauge what kind of price they can get it for. I just hate when someone buys it for less and want to brag how they got a better deal.
My issue with Kurono Tokyo is not its quality or choice of off-the-shelf movements but it is with their sales model. I have no problem with a timed limited drop-hype is an agnostic sales and marketing tool-but because their model relies on rarity, it works against itself with every new release no matter how small the run. The more drops they make, the further it reduces their value at both retail and preowned prices, and its own narrow audience becomes saturated very quickly. Were they to retire a dial and case design after two releases, it would slow down the approach to saturation but it still delays the inevitable.
I just received a Kurono Grand Mori with the green Urushi dial. It is, in my opinion, a grave disservice to anyone watching this video to say that Kurono watches ..."are pretty low quality". At least in the case of the watch I own, the dial and case finishing are as good as anything around, and clearly demonstrate that there is plenty of hand labor involved.
I am also hurt, by Federico's words. I love Kurono Tokyo, and I'm glad they are trying to combat the flippers. It does hurt the value, but also gives anyone a chance to purchase one.
The Urushi dials on the Kurono Tokyo watches are really well done. On par with Anordain dials in my humble opinion
Fed, it is a small small world -- I just bought the same H. Moser model you are wearing last week, but with the red fume dial. Mine came with a black rubber strap from the AD. I love the look and feel and am so happy to add my first H. Moser to my collection since they only make 1500 watches/year!
I used my CC when I bought my SMP300 because 1) it was a new enough card where they offered 12 months of no interest and 2) I got a $300 welcome bonus AND cash back rewards on the purchase. Had it all paid off in about 3 months
Smart
Most high end jewellery stores in the UK offer interest free for up to 5 years on new and used luxury timepieces.
5 years is nice
I financed my first watch. It was 0% for 12 months. I did it because of the free money. I got tired of the payment in month 2 and paid it off. I have the money to buy cash.. but I take 0% often. My 2nd watch I wish that I used my credit card for the pts, but I used my debit card. I will also do layaway sometimes also. Because I want a watch, but won't buy one unless I accomplish something. Being eager to pay it off, I work harder to have an accomplishment. I'm all over the place.
Love the orange rubber strap Fed. You are looking great.
I have a couple of tuning fork Omegas. I can say that the only place that I have found that can service them is through Omega, and Omega charges $1200 for a service due to it being a "special" caliber.
Ive bought two of my watches here in the UK using in store interest free finance. If you are responsible , put down a decent deposit and can make the payments its a great tool for acquiring a watch
Great way to avoid the “how much was that watch?” that I heard from The Pontiff’s channel: He said he responds that it was a gift, so he doesn’t really know. Not exactly honest, but a safe swerve!
I thought of that yesterday and posted in here... thinking I was a genius! Haha
You might get away with just simply saying “it’s a gift” with a smile and stop there. That’s not dishonest. It’s in fact a gift to yourself; and you never say anything about not knowing the price.
"I gotta be a completely phrank and honest with you... it was a gipht. DAVID SW DAVID SW DAVID SW!"
I have bought watches on finance (still paying for one lol) but I had the money cash. I had recently moved to a new country and it was a good way to get credit history
Use a credit card to get the points but but you’re nuts if you do that without being able to pay it off in one go and pay that insane interest on a want rather than a need
Finance: Keeping poor people looking rich, since forever.
Depends on the financing. If you can take a loan at near 0% you would be a fool not to. Invest the lump sum to return a higher rate than the loan. If you’re buying on a credit card with 19-23% interest that you’ll pay off over many months then you’re a fool and should save up instead.
The majority of “rich” folk have relatively FAR more debt than the average working class guy.
Depends what you're buying, a lot of the newer supercars are financed by rich flippers who know they can resell for more than the retail.
With inflation I’d take advantage of any 0% I can get
So basically you’re saying building your credit is worthless, cause everyone has $400k sitting to buy a house. Smh
Fed, I’ve been following you for years. Pretty much when you started your channel was recommended to me and you’ve really grown on me. I stopped looking at watches in the meantime but your channel is the only one I still follow. Let me buy you a pint if you’re ever in the Uk!
I said the same thing about Kurono until I owned one….wow its something else!
I've always disliked it when someone asks how much did you you pay for something. I like your responses!
Yo Fed,,,,, that part on the 'dirty underwear' is seriously funny. Great work man.
the green dial + orange strap works surprisingly well, great watch
also LOOKING GOOD ON THE WEIGHT LOSS FEDERICO GREAT ACHIEVEMENT MATE
If you don't want to say the price, just say it was a gift from husband, wife, parent, etc.....
The Moser looks great with the orange strap.
It really does
I’ve been thinking of going the financing route for my first luxury watch. At or near 0% financing I know I could invest the money for the watch and pay off any financing charges while also making more money on it. Hopefully by the time I’ve paid off the watch my investment would be enough to buy a second one.
Farer and Aquastar Deepstar are my favorite micro brands I'm actually eyeing a Panerai with the El primero movement. I definitely prefer older Panerai same with Rolex actually. I definitely prefer before the maxi case sizes and pre ceramic. Even Tissot and Zodiac were so much better back in the day. Same goes for Movado now the brand is a glorified fashion watch
The way I see it is, if you can afford to buy the watch multiple times in full right now, then you can afford the watch. Then after that if you wanna buy it in full or finance it, I think either is a fine choice. Just don't go into credit card debt to buy it lol that should be obvious to people but unfortunately it isn't.
Gentleman's answers in the Gentleman's watch world. Very good essential oriented video 👍Have you heard from our friend Bold and bankrupt , last time I saw him on you tube he was trying to escape from Ukraine 🇺🇦 with his American pal Johnny
Greetings from England , great vid as always . So true about tuning forks/early quartz , plus they can corrupt my wireless ! Recently , sold my last two, for good prices to new collectors , Omega hz and bulova spaceview, as I was always paranoid that the next time I wanted to wear one they would have stopped working .
Dealing out the hard and painful facts! Love it!
I have bought a few watches on interest free credit. When one is paid I buy another. I don’t miss Forty or fifty dollars a month and regard interest free watches as freebies.
Where can I get one of those Mosier straps???
No apology needed Fed. Keep up the good work.
If an adult wants to buy an expensive watch on finance, how is that anyone else's business?! If they have dependents who suffer because of it, then no, that's not alright. Otherwise, if you've earned the money you should spend it how you damn well please.
That Zenith Captain Moonface looks really cool
With information available on the internet, there’s really no need to ask a person the price of a watch.
I’m not sure if I heard you correctly, it sounded like you said financing through PP, interest free was “stupid”? So paying high interest rates on a CC is ok? I would think the opposite.
No, he said going into credit card debt for a watch and paying massive amounts of interest when an interest free option is available on the website was stupid. You're agreeing with each other.
Love that Moser, love the new green one also. Class as always Fed 🏴👍
Great video!!!
"Rubber's very appropriate..." Truer words were never spoken, brother, and not just about Miami, but other hot, wet places too! 😉
If you can’t comfortably buy 2 of something, you shouldn’t buy one in the first place. Generalization, but for the most part holds true.
Eh, no one would own a house.
What? Delray Watch offers interest free financing///
In Bergen we have a watchmaker fixing tuningfork movements. But, the acccess to spareparts is the bottleneck for them to.
Thank you Fed
Hey no links this time? Normally would not look but this time I did and no links :-(.....just wanting to make sure you all don't lose folks for sale! Love the content!
Mr Federico you were out of pocket for your comment on Kurono Tokyo. These are high quality watches. Unless you can back up you comment with facts or a hands on, I suggest you desist from making such statements that might tarnish your credibility !!
YOU ARE THE ROYALTY OF HIGH HOROLOGY, BROTHER FED. KEEP THEM COMING MORE OFTEN.
Thanks fed
Super vid again
Best answer to cost: "I don't know, it was a gift"
Hey Fed,what does " wire only"" mean on ur watch site?
payment is only available by bank wire on that watch.
"I generally prefer to not discuss watch prices, as there are a broad range of factors that can affect the price of any watch at various points in time. I can tell you it wasn't cheap..."
Internet will tell you how much…….. I usually ignore questions like that.
Internet won’t tell you if you negotiated a better price or if the dealer threw in any extras.
Mate, your camera is hunting for focus a lot.
Your comment is neither here nor there, the content is enough and watchable...
That freaking Zenith Del Ray got is CRAZY!
No shame here I financed a GMT at retail from my credit union with a personal loan. Paid it off in one year and my credit score gained 14 points.
Looking good, the weight loss is VERY positive!
Not worth getting in debt over a watch
nice
If you have a credit card with 10k or more, you’re probably doing alright. Let’s not pretend like you pay cash on everything.
Contact Old Father Time They repair tuning fork watches
I would never purchase a luxury item on credit. Money needs to be in the bank before I shell out the money for a watch.
How much for your watch? How much for your car, house, shoes, .......nobody's business and in poor taste to ask! Only qualifier if you are talking to another watch nerd who really cares!
I would make an exception for someone looking to buy the same watch and they’re trying to gauge what kind of price they can get it for. I just hate when someone buys it for less and want to brag how they got a better deal.
How much is your watch? - None of your business!
My issue with Kurono Tokyo is not its quality or choice of off-the-shelf movements but it is with their sales model. I have no problem with a timed limited drop-hype is an agnostic sales and marketing tool-but because their model relies on rarity, it works against itself with every new release no matter how small the run. The more drops they make, the further it reduces their value at both retail and preowned prices, and its own narrow audience becomes saturated very quickly. Were they to retire a dial and case design after two releases, it would slow down the approach to saturation but it still delays the inevitable.