Yup there was some sort of corridors in the game before you fall to their nest and it was always around not in the vents i had to equip flamethrower and move backwards pulling trigger for a one second after each 10 step
It learns as it goes, the first few times you lick it with flames it runs but after a while if you do it a lot it doesn't run away right away each time and tries to persue you more and more.
You know I didn’t notice that until Waits tries to isolate you with the Alien to blow that section away. I had no choice but use the flamethrower because it was a really nervebreaking section with the alarms and crap. Then i noticed that instead of running towards me it started creeping up being cautious.
When I got the shotgun and encountered an Alien with it, I thought I could paint (and melt) the wall with its blood. I even yelled 'Eat this!' like Hicks did in the second movie just for the spirit of it. ...it goes without saying that I got an early game over from it, lol
Oh but on nightmare difficulty, good luck finding any shotgun shells at all lol. Hell, it's better to rely on your instincts than the motion tracker, because the Alien is even more adept at finding you if you have it active.
Nightmare difficulty is more dumb blind luck more than anything else. Getting spotted is an almost guaranteed game over 90% of the time, as ANY of the Alien's attacks (even if it runs into you as it retreats from fire/explosions) will kill you instantly. The hostile humans and Working Joes can drop you dead pretty swiftly too. That is crazy because the first part of the game you don't have access to the flamethrower, so you HAVE to resort to hiding. Shoutout to the San Cristobal Medical Facility level because getting detected by the Alien at that point is a death wish - and that's pretty easy, considering there are few places to hide and there's usually only two paths through the area.
Unfortunately we will probably never see Alien Isolation 2. According to CA the game only sold a meager 2 million copies. They barely hit the break even. Which kinda sucks because the game was actually very well received and praised. Probably just bad marketing on their end.
johny guitar Like another lame Colonial Marines game? I don’t think so. A small minority disliked Isolation because there were no pulse rifles or hoards of Xenomorph’s to kill. Isolation is way more refined than that turd of a game.
it depends on the perspective i guess???most of the combat items here can desintegrate alien's body yet you can't kill him with it, and also you have seen the hive, most of us think once the hive itself has found that creature can be killed or just simply slowed down a bit like what did Resident evil do when nemesis showed, this game is originally made to play as hide and seek, not as a combat game where you can counter it with something else, to be honest this is more fun to play as a horror game because of the term " advance Alien AI" but sadly they do something about us to disappoint about thier game
This was cool - most players don't use their items nearly enough to get a sense of what they can do. The (admittedly limited) effectiveness of the smoke bomb and shotgun was surprising, though.
I only used the flame thrower about four times for face huggers and a scripted part when I had to use it on the Alien and only about five handgun shots. I was very stingy with weaponry since I thought I would need it later.
Primarily because shotgun ammo is rather scarce so most people wouldn't even bother with the prospect (unless it's the first time they're playing the game).
In the games survival mode (the basement) you get one shotgun shell. And its basically useless. Unless there are some laying around to find. I haven't found any.
Smoke can’t distract alien, but you can be really close to it (but not too close) and it conceal you. Alternatively, got to place the smoke as was trying to melt some bars and when the alien got close, smoke triggered, and just continued sawing away - a big brain moment Mystic won’t forget! Testing the smoke finally paid off with that play!
One small problem: The alien AI learns over time, it has several behaviours and responses to stimuli locked at the beginning of the game, which slowly unlock as you progress. For instance, at first the Alien will be distracted by flares, but if it sees you throw one and you survive the encounter, from that point on he will look for the point of origin of the flare throw, rather than the flare itself. This is most apparent with the flamethrower, where once the Alien knows what it is, it is steadfast and approaches you cautiously, instead of rushing towards you and getting burned.
Lmao, you can get to M16-17 without the Alien ever seeing you outside of scripted events and it will always react the exact same way. People really need to to stop lying about the "impressive AI"
@@Pingevin1 Well... yeah, it's consistent. It doesn't choose the response to a stimulus at random, it uses it's best one. The game will automatically unlock parts of his logic tree the further you progress. Meaning that by the endgame missions, he will consistently use the most advanced reaction that he has. The thing is you can unlock these early as the player, by interacting with him. Also, I'm not sure what parts of the logic tree get unlocked by the game, and which ones are only unlockable by player encounters
The EMP mine was funnier, since you could actually kill Aliens with them in the classic AVP games. The same goes for the Stun Baton - you'd think it would stop it for second or two. But right here, it just runs right through it and shrugs off as if it was the wind...
EMPs scare the Alien on their first use, but the 2nd time it realises you can't harm it with them. Nothing can actually kill the alien, though, just scare it.
Unfortunately, we never even got the chance to see if Brett and Parker's stun baton (cattle prod) would even work against what they thought was still the baby alien form (chestbuster), which they were hunting immediately after Kane dies. So, even on the assumption the the cattle prod might have been of limited effectiveness against the baby chestburster ("it might give it a little incentive")...it makes sense that it wouldn't even tickle an adult Alien.
0:30 The Xenomorph takes a cautious step towards the player before beginning to walk her way, waiting for the retaliation before deciding on moving in and closing the distance. I absolutely LOVED that!!!
I thought they should have had this mechanic in the game, instead of "killing" a xenomorph, something like a point blank shotgun headshot, direct pipe bomb/molotov hit, or fully charged bolt gun body or head shot should knock the alien on its ass for a few seconds, have it wriggle in pain, and the run away at top speed. Like you fucked it up badly and it retreated.
Technically, the game does have a healthbar for the Alien that gets depleted every time you hit it with any damaging items. However, it's such an incredibly large healthbar, and I think it resets every time it vents, so you'll never live long enough to "kill" it in the game.
@@theterrorofdimensions1326 Get 3 Pipe Bombs, Molotovs, Flashbangs, EMPs land put them all into a small pile. Lure it into the marshal bureau with the main door closed It will just teleport away, no way to escape.
For fun once I lured the alien into a massive pile of 3 flash bangs 3 pipe bombs 3 molotovs 3 smoke bombs and 3 emp mines. Shit almost crashed my game 😂
I didn't expect it to have much effect either, but thanks to this video I made a couple of smoke bombs as soon as I got the blueprint and had the necessary tools to create them, and I'm preparing to try them out as soon as I find myself in a situation where I'll need them. - I think the smoke bombs will work if I am careful about how I move and where I move to after having placed one (I hope I won't have to place several of them because in that case, I'll soon run out of bombs and materials needed to create new ones).
Smoke bomb is important for those who kinda got trapped in a situation where the alien is “camping” or in a room where there’s only one way entry/exit. Most people usually just restarted the game but if you want the thrill of survival, this is the best moment to use smoke bomb
@@zulucruz664 From videos I have seen, the smoke bomb works both ways and it looks like it could blind the player too. I just hid until I could move. It took much longer though. Sometimes the game was a real test of patience.
@@elijahoakes1768 I frequently use all of the items in the harder difficulties because they each have their uses. You could argue EMPs are too expensive because they require 3 charge packs to make one, but if you can group up androids they're good. The flares take a few seconds after starting one to activate and draw attention. Whether in your hand or thrown. And smoke bombs can be used as quiter flashbangs. In my opinion the worst item is the pipe bomb. Since the only time I ever use them is when I don't have flash bangs or when I have 2 somehow and want to kill a single hazmat.
Really surprised to see how effective the smoke bomb is at breaking off a pursuit. Looks like it could be used to grant enough time to hide in a locker/under a table. Thanks for the data gathering! :)
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the shotgun can chase away the alien if you keep shooting it faster, while it's not charging at you. very expensive, 3 or 4 shots I think
I'm surprised the shotgun offered more resistance than the bolt gun I shot a man with full charge that it popped his neck up and tucked his head under neath his shoulder I popped that alien with it and it stopped dead still and turned around slowly like AW HELL NO
I always use Flashbang, Noisemaker and Flares to distract the Alien. To make him retreat I recommend Molotov and Pipe Bombs (make him go back to the ducts instantly).
One thing that made me mad was that once you basically had all the weapons and had powerful equipment, and you were thrown in an area swarming with the beasts that had been terrorizing you for the entire game, you couldn't do anything against them. I believe that at least the bolt gun should've been able to put an alien down since the bastards are *not* immortal.
@@TylerDurden-id6yp It wasn't indestructible. Very resilient yes, but not immortal. Infact they talk about this in Alien where they rule out using any of their real weapons due to the accid it had for its blood. Obviously it's not possible to say how effective their weapons would have been so how many shots it would have required to kill it. But it is sufficient to say that the damage to the ship would have been so severe that it killed them as well.
@@CrniWuk it's not that the damage needed to kill the thing would be to much for the ship like they aren't gonna pull a minigun and rockets But rather a few drops of the blood melted down like four floors imagine a gaping wound or worse blowing the fucker up
Thanks for making this video. I was looking for a video like this but had to search for a long time before I came across yours. The info you provide here (and you do it with such simple and straight to the point means) will without a doubt continue to be of help to a lot of players.....Thanks again.
Most of these weapons should’ve done some serious damage to the xeno. But I know I know...it would’ve taken away from the entire point of survival and evasion.
I mean they could've made the Alien vulnerable to your weapons, but at a tradeoff of it requiring lots of ammo to do so, and/or having more Xenos come after you the more you kill them.
@@SoldierOfFate in the first movie the xeno is essentially immortal, this game kind of says what if the next film never happened and this is a direct sequel. Yes it was shot yes it got burnt in the engine and thrown into the vccume of space, but it never died. You could say it got retconned again in covenant, but i think thats also a separate thing. The original moster was indestructible.
If the developers had replaced the...non-alien antagonists...with squishy humans, perhaps a xenomorph cult as those in Earth Hive, and then only included "usable against soft targets to avoid breaching the hull in the vacuum of space"-style weapons, it would have been easier to accept the alien tanking everything. I mean, I could accept the alien's carapace withstanding birdshot and .22LR, but the 357 and in particular a fully charged bolt gun should have ended the alien with a head shot. A direct pipe bomb blast should also have at the very least dismembered it. If you want an unstoppable monster, don't add in weapons that would be able to stop it. If you need bigger guns for lesser monsters, add in more specialized weapons/tools rather than heavier weapons.
@@expressrobkill The alien was never "indestructible" I mean you just pointed out that it was shot by a spear gun, It even screamed in pain afterwards. The nostromo crew had no weapons besides a flamethrower and even then it was never used against the alien
it was shot by a spear gun and was basically fine. in fact even in aliens nothing but the pulse rifle, really does any damage (which considering the insane power behind that thing is incredibly impressive). the shotgun was point blank and in the unprotected mouth so doesn't count.
Playing this nest section of the game was one of my best gaming experience. Just imagine for myself running and gunning aliens with my team. Really wish to make some day good Colonial marines game. And please, make Alien isolation 2.
To be fair, it's unknown if Hicks shotgun used slugs or pellet rounds. Also, Hicks shot the xenomorph in the mouth. I think a shotgun in the mouth would kill anyone(except a T-1000). The ones used by the people in svestapol station, might have been shotgun with pellet rounds. Pellet rounds are less effective and damaging than slug rounds for shotguns. So xenos can withstand pellet rounds from shotguns
Shotgun is good for destroing eggs (why waste flamethrower) and its main role is taking down androids. One or two shots to the head from close range will do the job. As for the Flare and Noisemaker didnt Xeno get used to it the more you use it? I mean the devs say that he learn so i guess he should not stare on them for 16+ second the second or third time.
You actually can stun the alien with the baton I don’t know the terms but I’ve seen the alien chase someone do the accidental pause thing then the guy hit em behind
I find it ridiculous the pipe bomb and guns cant outright kill them. I know they needed an invincible monster to keep up the tension but once you get to act 2 and realize theres a whole hive on the space station they could have at least started limiting the rule. Hell Hicks killed one in Aliens with an old 12 gauge Ithica pump and Vasquez point blanked one with an old 9mm Smith and Wesson. Shit Goremans gun was a 9 too, not that he got to use it, so the arguement of "well the marines had superior weapons/ammo" just doesnt hold water.
Yes, save the alien-killing weapons to act 2, when you know about the hive, and then start having more aliens show up if you kill one. Like, being hunted by two, then three, then a horde of aliens at once, as a "thank you" for being able to kill aliens. Should serve just as well to keep even action-hungry players on their toes, while not feeling as artificial. And with the weapons in the game, what with their rates of fire and reload times, once you have one alien calling its two buddies to join the hunt before all of them come after you at once, you're basically toast. And even if by luck, positioning and/or traps you manage to survive that, next time an alien finds you, the horde it calls never stops swarming...
Hicks killed one by bypassing the armour and shooting the mouth. The pistol feat is immediately disqualified when right after the same pistol did nothing but cause bullets to bounce of their exoskeleton. A civilian made pipe bomb isn't going to have the force required to kill one, no shit.
Dude I swear, the Smoke bomb was my Babe playing this game... whenever I was panicking I just throw one in the Ground and I calmed down for some seconds because of how effective it is...
Wouldn't think the smoke bomb would do anything against the Xenomorph. I had no idea that you could just lay some of these on the ground and have the creature set them off!
+Aldondrius Aldondrius They become resistant to it because of balancing. If you constantly spammed the Flamethrower, it would become too easy if they didn't gradually become resistant. It provides a challenge in the game, and it helps make the xenomorphs frightening to encounter (especially on a first playthrough). They wouldn't be as intimidating if they never built a resistance.
The only thing i haye about this game is how bulletproof the xenos are. Like seriously... A pipe bomb didnt make it explode to bits? A bolt gun didnt penetrate its skin at all? Or a fuckin revolver didnt explode its head? Much more.. a shotgun cant blow it away? And like the revolver, not make it explode to bits?
Though it's annoying and also kind of disturbing that the Alien can ignore _shotgun blasts to the face_, I'm surprised by how it still actually works, compared to the revolver. I can't help but wonder if it's loaded with like birdshot or something like that, something that doesn't have the raw power of buckshot but that's still fatal to human beings. I'm glad smoke bombs and flashbangs work on a creature with no eyes though. I've rarely, if ever, used smoke bombs due to a fear of both attracting the Alien and then not being able to SEE the Alien once it shows up, but it's nice to see that it actually works. Does the explosion of it tip it off to your position? Funny story re: pipe bombs - the first time I used one, I actually placed it below the vent that the Alien comes out of when you're in the medical center (so basically at the point where it's finally hunting you), and hid under the gurney kind of close to it, just to see how it would react and if it would just instantly "NOPE" back up into the vent. When the bomb went off, it somehow _instantly_ knew where I was and killed me. True story.
Also, I see so many people saying "y no pulse rifle"; you lot realize that if you had a pulse rifle, you'd pretty much win the game, since it's an assault rifle with explosive-tipped, armor piercing bullets and a built-in grenade launcher (with an ammo type that can turn it into a shotgun), right? The reason why it's not present on the station is because A) lore says that it was made in 2171; this game is set in 2137; B) my original point; and C) it's a civilian space station. In space. You wouldn't use a gun with highly-penetrative bullets on a space station, because if you miss and hit the outer hull, you'll cause a hull breach and explosive decompression will kill everybody present. I know they were going to have an SMG in the game, which would've been interesting to see, and it would've been realistic, because SMGs are basically just compact assault rifles with pistol-caliber ammo, which make them ideal for situations where collateral damage (in this case, shooting holes in the hull of a space station) is a concerning factor.
oh no the pipe bomb is very useful against the alien as you can see in the video. they're also useful against the synthetics around the apollo core with the rubber suits.
I hit it with everything. A good shotgun blast would rock it long enough to flee. So long as you broke line of sight. Near the end level I had place firebombs and pipe bombs all over the place and all it did was piss it off and made it ten times more aggressive. It took me two days to get to the part where you talk to Verlaine about the docking clamps. Thank God for saves on each end of the long corridor. Without them I might never have got through that section on hard after antagonizing it. I seriously had less trouble in the nest
Tried an everything i have plant trap but still couldn't kill it- i know its a game rule but sigh. You do get to see it fall down to its death in the sythetics factory (where you see those carbonite like slabs swinging across), i think its a game glitch where the alien is dropped into the scene in an odd place, flops over the rails and the ground scenary below has no collision detection and just falls to infinity till you re-enter the areas from a different door- the humans even shoot at it!
One thing i found absolutely ridicolous is that a the Bolt gun and Pike Bombs cant kill or at the very least severely cripple the Alien. Like come on, the bomb should at the very least blow its feet off
STAGGERS ALIEN Shotgun Bolt Gun Flashbang BLIND Smoke Grenade DRIVES ALIEN AWAY Molotov Flamethrower (also makes him afraid and won't rush you when pointed at him) Pipe Bomb NO EFFECT EMP Revolver Stun Baton
The effectiveness could explain why Waits' team was not able to eliminate the "creature" in the Alien: Isolation comic before the Torrens arrived in the game.
So, the general consensus vibe I'm gettin from the video is flares are op af. Got it 👍 I've been passing up so many extra flares due to max carry cap that I actually could've been using on his ass lol
only the first couple of times - the clips in this video are likely the first or second times he's used any of these on the alien, and likely on normal or lower. play on harder difficulties and spam flares and you'll quickly realize that not only are they holding the alien's attention for far shorter time spans, eventually you'll get to the point where they actively serve as detriment and alert the alien to your location.
you have a shitload of flame thrower ammo on that lvl, on hard mode you only have enough ammo to make it to the next save station if you run like hell that is haha
I finished game on hard, and i never learnd how to use pipe bomb, smoke, flare and shotgun on alien... lol i was so bad in this game XD. I was using pipe bombs on androids XD and smoke on humans.
I once threw a molotov at 2 oncoming facehuggers at close range, and I killed myself because there's a bomb attached to it. I asked why is there a BOMB attached to a MOLOTOV?? I finally got my answer at 1:55
Didn't know the flare and pipe bomb were so effective lol literally never used a single flare besides the first one before the flashlight. Only tossed one pipe bomb at an android. Mostly just used my flame thrower and molotovs. Really taught me to be sneaky and how to budget my use lol.
Xeno: You are dead meat!
*Pulls out the Flamethrower*
Xeno: I would like to apologize.
or Xeno: i would like to postpone this conversation
Xeno: We're going to have to have a talk about safety.
Xeno: *Are you sure about that?*
@@vulkunne1542 Xeno : Why don't you ask me about the hive safety protocols?
its like "you dont need that flametrower, lets just talk" while walking slowly towards you
I love how the Alien actually acts cautiously around the player when the flamethrower is equipped. Great detail.
well it is very smart
lmao piss off
Yup there was some sort of corridors in the game before you fall to their nest and it was always around not in the vents i had to equip flamethrower and move backwards pulling trigger for a one second after each 10 step
It learns as it goes, the first few times you lick it with flames it runs but after a while if you do it a lot it doesn't run away right away each time and tries to persue you more and more.
You know I didn’t notice that until Waits tries to isolate you with the Alien to blow that section away. I had no choice but use the flamethrower because it was a really nervebreaking section with the alarms and crap. Then i noticed that instead of running towards me it started creeping up being cautious.
When I got the shotgun and encountered an Alien with it, I thought I could paint (and melt) the wall with its blood. I even yelled 'Eat this!' like Hicks did in the second movie just for the spirit of it.
...it goes without saying that I got an early game over from it, lol
Yes but sometimes it's just better to avoid alerting it in the first place.
Oh but on nightmare difficulty, good luck finding any shotgun shells at all lol. Hell, it's better to rely on your instincts than the motion tracker, because the Alien is even more adept at finding you if you have it active.
Nightmare difficulty is more dumb blind luck more than anything else. Getting spotted is an almost guaranteed game over 90% of the time, as ANY of the Alien's attacks (even if it runs into you as it retreats from fire/explosions) will kill you instantly. The hostile humans and Working Joes can drop you dead pretty swiftly too.
That is crazy because the first part of the game you don't have access to the flamethrower, so you HAVE to resort to hiding. Shoutout to the San Cristobal Medical Facility level because getting detected by the Alien at that point is a death wish - and that's pretty easy, considering there are few places to hide and there's usually only two paths through the area.
The Ugly Barnacle best comment in CZcams history lol
So far nightmare mode is pretty easy I even team up with one of the random humans to kill a joe for me so I don’t have to waste ammo
Unfortunately we will probably never see Alien Isolation 2. According to CA the game only sold a meager 2 million copies. They barely hit the break even. Which kinda sucks because the game was actually very well received and praised.
Probably just bad marketing on their end.
Well they are an RTS developer after all. makes sense no one would buy the game
well good bec not evry one wants a hide and seek if they put a whey to actualy kile it the game whould be great
johny guitar Your grammar and ideas are idiotic, you sound stupid as fuck
johny guitar Like another lame Colonial Marines game? I don’t think so. A small minority disliked Isolation because there were no pulse rifles or hoards of Xenomorph’s to kill. Isolation is way more refined than that turd of a game.
it depends on the perspective i guess???most of the combat items here can desintegrate alien's body yet you can't kill him with it, and also you have seen the hive, most of us think once the hive itself has found that creature can be killed or just simply slowed down a bit like what did Resident evil do when nemesis showed, this game is originally made to play as hide and seek, not as a combat game where you can counter it with something else, to be honest this is more fun to play as a horror game because of the term " advance Alien AI" but sadly they do something about us to disappoint about thier game
This was cool - most players don't use their items nearly enough to get a sense of what they can do. The (admittedly limited) effectiveness of the smoke bomb and shotgun was surprising, though.
I only used the flame thrower about four times for face huggers and a scripted part when I had to use it on the Alien and only about five handgun shots. I was very stingy with weaponry since I thought I would need it later.
Primarily because shotgun ammo is rather scarce so most people wouldn't even bother with the prospect (unless it's the first time they're playing the game).
In the games survival mode (the basement) you get one shotgun shell. And its basically useless. Unless there are some laying around to find. I haven't found any.
well you can shoot it and run away.
Smoke can’t distract alien, but you can be really close to it (but not too close) and it conceal you. Alternatively, got to place the smoke as was trying to melt some bars and when the alien got close, smoke triggered, and just continued sawing away - a big brain moment Mystic won’t forget! Testing the smoke finally paid off with that play!
One small problem: The alien AI learns over time, it has several behaviours and responses to stimuli locked at the beginning of the game, which slowly unlock as you progress.
For instance, at first the Alien will be distracted by flares, but if it sees you throw one and you survive the encounter, from that point on he will look for the point of origin of the flare throw, rather than the flare itself.
This is most apparent with the flamethrower, where once the Alien knows what it is, it is steadfast and approaches you cautiously, instead of rushing towards you and getting burned.
Lmao, you can get to M16-17 without the Alien ever seeing you outside of scripted events and it will always react the exact same way. People really need to to stop lying about the "impressive AI"
@@Pingevin1 Well... yeah, it's consistent. It doesn't choose the response to a stimulus at random, it uses it's best one. The game will automatically unlock parts of his logic tree the further you progress. Meaning that by the endgame missions, he will consistently use the most advanced reaction that he has. The thing is you can unlock these early as the player, by interacting with him. Also, I'm not sure what parts of the logic tree get unlocked by the game, and which ones are only unlockable by player encounters
@@Pingevin1to be fair it's not like you're the only human it's hunting, other people are gonna try the same things off screen
The bolt gun at the start, the alien is like "really bro ?! REALLY ?!?"
The EMP mine was funnier, since you could actually kill Aliens with them in the classic AVP games. The same goes for the Stun Baton - you'd think it would stop it for second or two.
But right here, it just runs right through it and shrugs off as if it was the wind...
EMPs scare the Alien on their first use, but the 2nd time it realises you can't harm it with them. Nothing can actually kill the alien, though, just scare it.
Unfortunately, we never even got the chance to see if Brett and Parker's stun baton (cattle prod) would even work against what they thought was still the baby alien form (chestbuster), which they were hunting immediately after Kane dies. So, even on the assumption the the cattle prod might have been of limited effectiveness against the baby chestburster ("it might give it a little incentive")...it makes sense that it wouldn't even tickle an adult Alien.
The bolt gun works if you get a couple of headshots with it. But the flamethrower is much better.
Hes just riveted you even tried
Imagine when the alien threw you to the floor when you're holding the revolver and its little mouth comes out and you put the barrel in it and fire
Eat this!
Good way to have facial reconstruction for free
Cappuccino's Nephew you would get a facial reconstruction anyway might has well take him with you.
That acid blood tho
this would be very fun if you ever wanted to shower in fucking acid
0:30 The Xenomorph takes a cautious step towards the player before beginning to walk her way, waiting for the retaliation before deciding on moving in and closing the distance. I absolutely LOVED that!!!
I thought they should have had this mechanic in the game, instead of "killing" a xenomorph, something like a point blank shotgun headshot, direct pipe bomb/molotov hit, or fully charged bolt gun body or head shot should knock the alien on its ass for a few seconds, have it wriggle in pain, and the run away at top speed. Like you fucked it up badly and it retreated.
Technically, the game does have a healthbar for the Alien that gets depleted every time you hit it with any damaging items. However, it's such an incredibly large healthbar, and I think it resets every time it vents, so you'll never live long enough to "kill" it in the game.
@@theterrorofdimensions1326 Get 3 Pipe Bombs, Molotovs, Flashbangs, EMPs land put them all into a small pile. Lure it into the marshal bureau with the main door closed
It will just teleport away, no way to escape.
For fun once I lured the alien into a massive pile of 3 flash bangs 3 pipe bombs 3 molotovs 3 smoke bombs and 3 emp mines. Shit almost crashed my game 😂
I never even used a smoke bomb during the entire game. Nice video thanks!
I didn't expect it to have much effect either, but thanks to this video I made a couple of smoke bombs as soon as I got the blueprint and had the necessary tools to create them, and I'm preparing to try them out as soon as I find myself in a situation where I'll need them. - I think the smoke bombs will work if I am careful about how I move and where I move to after having placed one (I hope I won't have to place several of them because in that case, I'll soon run out of bombs and materials needed to create new ones).
Smoke bomb is important for those who kinda got trapped in a situation where the alien is “camping” or in a room where there’s only one way entry/exit.
Most people usually just restarted the game but if you want the thrill of survival, this is the best moment to use smoke bomb
@@zulucruz664 From videos I have seen, the smoke bomb works both ways and it looks like it could blind the player too. I just hid until I could move. It took much longer though. Sometimes the game was a real test of patience.
4:24 The Alien kills Amanda while a Snapchat filter's on.
Damn. I gotta use flares more often.
Me too.
Didnt even know what they could do
well the most useful items here are shotgun, flamethrower, flares, and flasbang and also Molotov the others are trash
@@dragking9735 nosiemakers are alright
@@elijahoakes1768
I frequently use all of the items in the harder difficulties because they each have their uses. You could argue EMPs are too expensive because they require 3 charge packs to make one, but if you can group up androids they're good. The flares take a few seconds after starting one to activate and draw attention. Whether in your hand or thrown.
And smoke bombs can be used as quiter flashbangs.
In my opinion the worst item is the pipe bomb. Since the only time I ever use them is when I don't have flash bangs or when I have 2 somehow and want to kill a single hazmat.
@@dragking9735
In short all of them are good, if you actually have *skill/knowledge* on HOW to use them!
7 years since it’s release and I still appreciate this video! Great job
I love alien isolation, if only it were more popular
Really surprised to see how effective the smoke bomb is at breaking off a pursuit. Looks like it could be used to grant enough time to hide in a locker/under a table. Thanks for the data gathering! :)
I wish they added a acid blood death animation.
You can sorta die from the acid by smashing the facehuggers with your wrench
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the shotgun can chase away the alien if you keep shooting it faster, while it's not charging at you.
very expensive, 3 or 4 shots I think
Alien: "i got you no-"
(shotgun blast)
"that didn't hu-"(shotun)
"STOP I-(shotgun blast)
"YOU'RE REALLY PISSING ME O-(Shotgun blast)
Arnold Schwarzenegger if he was in the Alien movie instead of Predator
I'm surprised the shotgun offered more resistance than the bolt gun I shot a man with full charge that it popped his neck up and tucked his head under neath his shoulder
I popped that alien with it and it stopped dead still and turned around slowly like
AW HELL NO
That flashbank part was hillarious. At least you don't see him killing you lol
I always use Flashbang, Noisemaker and Flares to distract the Alien. To make him retreat I recommend Molotov and Pipe Bombs (make him go back to the ducts instantly).
In this video the flashbang only seems to stop him for a second, though. I suppose he loses aggro if you immediately get out of line-of-sight?
One thing that made me mad was that once you basically had all the weapons and had powerful equipment, and you were thrown in an area swarming with the beasts that had been terrorizing you for the entire game, you couldn't do anything against them. I believe that at least the bolt gun should've been able to put an alien down since the bastards are *not* immortal.
Well, the game captures the atmosphere of the first movie, in which the creature is basically indestructible and unstoppable.
Yea in the first film its essentially immortal, this was changed in aliens so they could have more action.
@@TylerDurden-id6yp technically Parker could have killed it but Lambert got in the way.
@@TylerDurden-id6yp It wasn't indestructible. Very resilient yes, but not immortal. Infact they talk about this in Alien where they rule out using any of their real weapons due to the accid it had for its blood. Obviously it's not possible to say how effective their weapons would have been so how many shots it would have required to kill it. But it is sufficient to say that the damage to the ship would have been so severe that it killed them as well.
@@CrniWuk it's not that the damage needed to kill the thing would be to much for the ship like they aren't gonna pull a minigun and rockets
But rather a few drops of the blood melted down like four floors imagine a gaping wound or worse blowing the fucker up
Thanks for making this video. I was looking for a video like this but had to search for a long time before I came across yours.
The info you provide here (and you do it with such simple and straight to the point means) will without a doubt continue to be of help to a lot of players.....Thanks again.
I actually just learned a lot about this game. Thanks.
I like how when you hit it with the bolt gun, they're just like "dude, what the hell?"
they should be given the chance to make ISOLATION 2
Most of these weapons should’ve done some serious damage to the xeno. But I know I know...it would’ve taken away from the entire point of survival and evasion.
I mean they could've made the Alien vulnerable to your weapons, but at a tradeoff of it requiring lots of ammo to do so, and/or having more Xenos come after you the more you kill them.
@@SoldierOfFate in the first movie the xeno is essentially immortal, this game kind of says what if the next film never happened and this is a direct sequel. Yes it was shot yes it got burnt in the engine and thrown into the vccume of space, but it never died. You could say it got retconned again in covenant, but i think thats also a separate thing. The original moster was indestructible.
If the developers had replaced the...non-alien antagonists...with squishy humans, perhaps a xenomorph cult as those in Earth Hive, and then only included "usable against soft targets to avoid breaching the hull in the vacuum of space"-style weapons, it would have been easier to accept the alien tanking everything.
I mean, I could accept the alien's carapace withstanding birdshot and .22LR, but the 357 and in particular a fully charged bolt gun should have ended the alien with a head shot. A direct pipe bomb blast should also have at the very least dismembered it.
If you want an unstoppable monster, don't add in weapons that would be able to stop it. If you need bigger guns for lesser monsters, add in more specialized weapons/tools rather than heavier weapons.
@@expressrobkill The alien was never "indestructible" I mean you just pointed out that it was shot by a spear gun, It even screamed in pain afterwards. The nostromo crew had no weapons besides a flamethrower and even then it was never used against the alien
it was shot by a spear gun and was basically fine. in fact even in aliens nothing but the pulse rifle, really does any damage (which considering the insane power behind that thing is incredibly impressive). the shotgun was point blank and in the unprotected mouth so doesn't count.
I always wondered if the light from the objects (especially the Molotov) gave the alien a higher chance of seeing you.
He doesn’t have eyes or eyesight, he uses his hearing senses.
Angelina Schmidt It can definitely see
Aaron Bowley My brother said he can’t, so I stood up in the game I didn’t move or make noises he didn’t see me. Can you explain that?
Paul Heyman because smoke shortens his senses.
XHollisterBabyXx you were playing on Easy .
What about offering him hugs? Did anybody think of that? No, you only think about yourself.
3:33 "There you are!"
Love Alien Isolation on the PC! still working getting all the tag/logs
This video is invaluable. Thank you so much for the info
I like the video, loved the bloopers at the end lmao!
Shotguns really good at running away. Also you can see that it makes the alien bleed.
Thanks for the rigorous experimentation! Now we know
I like that it still comes after you when you shoot it with a shotgun multiple times like seriously how is the thing not almost dead
Thank you, this is useful
Playing this nest section of the game was one of my best gaming experience. Just imagine for myself running and gunning aliens with my team. Really wish to make some day good Colonial marines game. And please, make Alien isolation 2.
You used the revolver wrong. See, you're supposed to use it on yourself when the alien is charging at you.
The fact that the Shotgun can't outright murder this thing is somewhat disturbing, since in the movies, they Clearly hurt the Aliens.
To be fair, it's unknown if Hicks shotgun used slugs or pellet rounds. Also, Hicks shot the xenomorph in the mouth. I think a shotgun in the mouth would kill anyone(except a T-1000). The ones used by the people in svestapol station, might have been shotgun with pellet rounds. Pellet rounds are less effective and damaging than slug rounds for shotguns. So xenos can withstand pellet rounds from shotguns
Shotgun is good for destroing eggs (why waste flamethrower) and its main role is taking down androids. One or two shots to the head from close range will do the job. As for the Flare and Noisemaker didnt Xeno get used to it the more you use it? I mean the devs say that he learn so i guess he should not stare on them for 16+ second the second or third time.
Dat stun baton was very effective
I was totally unaware of the Flashbang against them. Always assumed it wouldn’t work
wow i can't believe that the flare lasted 16.5 seconds
My favorite gun, Shotgun.
I love how he gets scared when you throw a fire bottle 😂
You actually can stun the alien with the baton I don’t know the terms but I’ve seen the alien chase someone do the accidental pause thing then the guy hit em behind
What a pretty smile the alien has!
I find it ridiculous the pipe bomb and guns cant outright kill them. I know they needed an invincible monster to keep up the tension but once you get to act 2 and realize theres a whole hive on the space station they could have at least started limiting the rule. Hell Hicks killed one in Aliens with an old 12 gauge Ithica pump and Vasquez point blanked one with an old 9mm Smith and Wesson. Shit Goremans gun was a 9 too, not that he got to use it, so the arguement of "well the marines had superior weapons/ammo" just doesnt hold water.
Yes, save the alien-killing weapons to act 2, when you know about the hive, and then start having more aliens show up if you kill one. Like, being hunted by two, then three, then a horde of aliens at once, as a "thank you" for being able to kill aliens. Should serve just as well to keep even action-hungry players on their toes, while not feeling as artificial.
And with the weapons in the game, what with their rates of fire and reload times, once you have one alien calling its two buddies to join the hunt before all of them come after you at once, you're basically toast. And even if by luck, positioning and/or traps you manage to survive that, next time an alien finds you, the horde it calls never stops swarming...
@@c99kfm Sounds like a fun challenge.
Hicks killed one by bypassing the armour and shooting the mouth. The pistol feat is immediately disqualified when right after the same pistol did nothing but cause bullets to bounce of their exoskeleton. A civilian made pipe bomb isn't going to have the force required to kill one, no shit.
i dunno but when he goes to look at the flare he kinda cute ngl, like a curious pet
Dude I swear, the Smoke bomb was my Babe playing this game... whenever I was panicking I just throw one in the Ground and I calmed down for some seconds because of how effective it is...
Wouldn't think the smoke bomb would do anything against the Xenomorph. I had no idea that you could just lay some of these on the ground and have the creature set them off!
so only thing that helps is fire?
and the pip bomb`?
Shotgun can stall him enough to let you escape too
The flare is useful
Yes but if you constantly use fire weapons on it, it will become progressively more resistant to it.
What is this the BORG, how can become resistant, garbage game is garbage.
+Aldondrius Aldondrius
They become resistant to it because of balancing. If you constantly spammed the Flamethrower, it would become too easy if they didn't gradually become resistant. It provides a challenge in the game, and it helps make the xenomorphs frightening to encounter (especially on a first playthrough). They wouldn't be as intimidating if they never built a resistance.
Damn!!! All that time I was ONLY using the flame thrower to fight off the alien
I had no idea flares were so good. I basically just ignored them all the times I played this game.
love how long you spent bullying the xeno with the shotgun.
The only thing i haye about this game is how bulletproof the xenos are. Like seriously...
A pipe bomb didnt make it explode to bits? A bolt gun didnt penetrate its skin at all? Or a fuckin revolver didnt explode its head? Much more.. a shotgun cant blow it away? And like the revolver, not make it explode to bits?
I didnt realize how effective the smoke grenades were
Gotta remember to place smoke bombs next time in my next playthrough
The stun baton though 😂😂
Wow, you can make him retreat with pipe bomb? I didnt know that.
The C really hates the flamethrower
Finished the game without throwing a single flare, smoke, and pipe bomb
But you threw it back though 😏
Lmfao, when you threw a molotov the alien said, fuck this Im out!
I love flash bangs
Stub baton and EMP made me LOL. I learned some new stuff though for sure thanks to this vid.
Though it's annoying and also kind of disturbing that the Alien can ignore _shotgun blasts to the face_, I'm surprised by how it still actually works, compared to the revolver. I can't help but wonder if it's loaded with like birdshot or something like that, something that doesn't have the raw power of buckshot but that's still fatal to human beings.
I'm glad smoke bombs and flashbangs work on a creature with no eyes though. I've rarely, if ever, used smoke bombs due to a fear of both attracting the Alien and then not being able to SEE the Alien once it shows up, but it's nice to see that it actually works. Does the explosion of it tip it off to your position?
Funny story re: pipe bombs - the first time I used one, I actually placed it below the vent that the Alien comes out of when you're in the medical center (so basically at the point where it's finally hunting you), and hid under the gurney kind of close to it, just to see how it would react and if it would just instantly "NOPE" back up into the vent.
When the bomb went off, it somehow _instantly_ knew where I was and killed me. True story.
Also, I see so many people saying "y no pulse rifle"; you lot realize that if you had a pulse rifle, you'd pretty much win the game, since it's an assault rifle with explosive-tipped, armor piercing bullets and a built-in grenade launcher (with an ammo type that can turn it into a shotgun), right?
The reason why it's not present on the station is because A) lore says that it was made in 2171; this game is set in 2137; B) my original point; and C) it's a civilian space station. In space. You wouldn't use a gun with highly-penetrative bullets on a space station, because if you miss and hit the outer hull, you'll cause a hull breach and explosive decompression will kill everybody present.
I know they were going to have an SMG in the game, which would've been interesting to see, and it would've been realistic, because SMGs are basically just compact assault rifles with pistol-caliber ammo, which make them ideal for situations where collateral damage (in this case, shooting holes in the hull of a space station) is a concerning factor.
1:35 - Did Steve really just huff in frustration after the second flashbang? Never heard that sound before from him.
Imagine if we got an actual bolt gun
im SHOCKED the alien cant see through smoke
Molotov and Flamethrower would be my options ;)
I never knew about the pipe bomb! Always thought it was useless so thank you. I'd never test it lol
oh no the pipe bomb is very useful against the alien as you can see in the video. they're also useful against the synthetics around the apollo core with the rubber suits.
@@aesthedicks5103 makes sense, it's both fire and percussion, it's absolutely damaging enough for both the Joes and the Alien to be affected.
The pipe bomb requires a huge amount of resources to craft so you generally save it for really tough foes like the Hazmat Joes.
I did NOT know that you could use items as proximity traps... I've been killing myself with molotovs and pipe bombs for years.
Lol alien said fuck yo emp! What the hell I never knew aliens would follow flares! Damnit!
I hit it with everything. A good shotgun blast would rock it long enough to flee. So long as you broke line of sight. Near the end level I had place firebombs and pipe bombs all over the place and all it did was piss it off and made it ten times more aggressive. It took me two days to get to the part where you talk to Verlaine about the docking clamps. Thank God for saves on each end of the long corridor. Without them I might never have got through that section on hard after antagonizing it. I seriously had less trouble in the nest
Emp just makes him killing you even cooler
1:42 me approaching the girl i like vs the girl
Hold on....did the shotgun make him bleed? Probably a cosmetic effect only but...who knew?!
1:50
Alien: "HOW DARE YOU INTERRUPT MY SLEEP, YOU WILL-
(bombs explodes)
DIOHFUCKTHATBURNS!
Tried an everything i have plant trap but still couldn't kill it- i know its a game rule but sigh. You do get to see it fall down to its death in the sythetics factory (where you see those carbonite like slabs swinging across), i think its a game glitch where the alien is dropped into the scene in an odd place, flops over the rails and the ground scenary below has no collision detection and just falls to infinity till you re-enter the areas from a different door- the humans even shoot at it!
Conclusion drop the stun baton and run
One thing i found absolutely ridicolous is that a the Bolt gun and Pike Bombs cant kill or at the very least severely cripple the Alien. Like come on, the bomb should at the very least blow its feet off
I love how the Xeno shows how it/she is afraid of fire but less get scared by it
STAGGERS ALIEN
Shotgun
Bolt Gun
Flashbang
BLIND
Smoke Grenade
DRIVES ALIEN AWAY
Molotov
Flamethrower (also makes him afraid and won't rush you when pointed at him)
Pipe Bomb
NO EFFECT
EMP
Revolver
Stun Baton
The effectiveness could explain why Waits' team was not able to eliminate the "creature" in the Alien: Isolation comic before the Torrens arrived in the game.
So, the general consensus vibe I'm gettin from the video is flares are op af. Got it 👍 I've been passing up so many extra flares due to max carry cap that I actually could've been using on his ass lol
only the first couple of times - the clips in this video are likely the first or second times he's used any of these on the alien, and likely on normal or lower. play on harder difficulties and spam flares and you'll quickly realize that not only are they holding the alien's attention for far shorter time spans, eventually you'll get to the point where they actively serve as detriment and alert the alien to your location.
I tried to throw a flashbang at an android and I couldn't do it. My wrench appeared in my hand.
dang im almost at the end of the game and i never picked up a pipe bomb schematic
How long does the noise maker distract it?
A minute probably. I'm not sure.
About the same as the flare
you have a shitload of flame thrower ammo on that lvl, on hard mode you only have enough ammo to make it to the next save station if you run like hell that is haha
So the aliens are indestructible.
I tried to use the flash bang on the alien once, I missed, it hit a corner and flashed me instead.
what happens if you corner the alien and flame thrower him in a area where there are no vents
He will charge into you and knock you down to get to a vent
lol the stun baton 3:35
I finished game on hard, and i never learnd how to use pipe bomb, smoke, flare and shotgun on alien... lol i was so bad in this game XD. I was using pipe bombs on androids XD and smoke on humans.
I once threw a molotov at 2 oncoming facehuggers at close range, and I killed myself because there's a bomb attached to it. I asked why is there a BOMB attached to a MOLOTOV?? I finally got my answer at 1:55
Didn't know the flare and pipe bomb were so effective lol literally never used a single flare besides the first one before the flashlight. Only tossed one pipe bomb at an android. Mostly just used my flame thrower and molotovs. Really taught me to be sneaky and how to budget my use lol.
This Xenomorph is hard to be killed.