No Orders From US & EU, World’s Largest Counterfeit Market Is Doomed | Yiwu | Temu
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- Whenever a popular new product from a renowned or trendy brand comes on the market, Chinese netizens joke, "Now the pressure is on Yiwu." Yiwu, a county-level city in Zhejiang Province, is home to the world's largest small commodities wholesale market and is aptly dubbed the "Capital of Small Commodities." However, it is also notorious as a hotbed for counterfeit and pirated goods.
The phrase "pressure on Yiwu" implies that as soon as a product becomes a hit in the market, factories in Yiwu will swiftly replicate it, producing imitation goods. These counterfeit items range from cosmetics, apparel, bags, shoes, toys, sports equipment, to daily necessities.
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We need to bring manufacturing back to our own country along with the jobs
Well the only way you can beat China's labour cost is with robots.
Absolutely. And have less red tape so they can give a fair price for those buying wholesale. Right now wholesale prices are disgusting.
We are already complaining that workers in the US are striking for higher wages and at the same time we don’t want illegal immigration which would provide us cheap labor so our prices stay low. If you want manufacturing back are you willing to b pay double , triple the price ? 🤷♂️
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Lombardo, the greatest job displacer in the universe is technology. Sooner or later only robots will make things.
@@JB-yb4wn Yup and with AI, robot replacing everyone is going to accelerate. The next decade is going to displace millions
Because they dont have a minimum respect for copyright, China is always going to be a race to rock bottom prices. Unlike S.Korea or Japan who moved on from cheap manufacturing.
India appears to be heading down the despicable path of the china model and will probably do it even better aka worse
They have been trying to move away from cheap manufacturing for years. 95% of the population don't want anything to do with a factory, ever, and because Winnie the Poo insists on blowing trillions on stupid garbage like the olympic games, the ghost city of Zhengdong, being perpetually hostile AF against every single other country and shutting the entire country down, their chance to develop more advanced industries have disappeared.
Beware of anything sold on Tik Tok and Etsy.
its communism. the idea of communism is that everything including ideas, and copyright items belongs to the people.
@@annarock8966 i did say minimum, fakes are still cracked down on, now if their doing a good enough job that's another story.
its not a Yiwu problem .... its a china problem. Its also a chinese culture problem ... one which even chinese people admit to. Ultimately, the CCP is to be blamed.
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@@laurencedassen4264 since they said 90% of good s are counterfeit i would say it would be harder to be a honest buyer when there is virtually no honest products.
When the government itself encourages "steal-and-copy" methods instead of encouraging creativity and innovation.
Indeed
A sparrow represents a summer?
Price and intellectual property is one thing, the low quality is another. It would be terrible to get a low quality counterfeit pass as authentic
Yes, it's one thing for me to go to Temu and buy a 40oz Stanley insulated stainless steel mug that is sold as a clone, and priced as an affordable clone(which I did), and making a clone and then selling it as a genuine Stanley mug for just a bit less than the real thing. I was not deceived when I bought my mug. It was advertised as a clone and priced to be as affordable as possible. I knew I was getting lower quality but at a MUCH lower price. I was not willing to pay the price for a genuine Stanley mug. So to me no one was hurt in this transaction. But putting the Stanley logo on it and trying to sell it as genuine at or near the price of a genuine one is a crime and should be treated as such.
The most serious issue with these counterfeit products is the use of toxic substances like lead and other carcinogenic substances.
@@SirReptitiousThe amount of carcinogenic materials sold on Temu is eye opening be careful man
Tik'Tok is loaded with these items and so is Etsy I have heard
@@ronnelacido1711 True, there is a chance that my stainless steel knock-off mug might be contaminated with lead or cadmium, but I'm willing to take that chance. And again, since it was made clear I was buying a knock-off, I would have only myself to blame if I discovered that was true.
I was in Beirut before the 1970's Civil War and they had a street of jewelers who were famous for making Cartier, Tiffany etc. of such exquisite perfection they were sometimes finer than the originals. A new design from Paris could be in their hands in a day and in five days you could buy it at a fraction of the cost. I must admit they were great craftsmen.
Personally.. I would buy made in *suluxs* .
But each to their own..
so heartwarming to see what was once an amazing society is now so eager to not only defraud foreigners but also their own people. I despise theft of intellectual property so I applaud their demise to the US market
Socialism in action. The market will always do what it does.
Yeah back in China monarchy era china society is the best but when communism took over all became fallen down.
Heartwarming indeed. 😢
You don't know what you're talking about. China has ALWAYS been this way.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
Every Country need's to bring back manufacturing to themselves! I can't even buy souvenirs when i'm on vacation who are not stamped "Made in China"!
It would sure be good for the earth. The shipping emissions are never mentioned but they are staggering.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
That ship has sailed
then you are going to the wrong shops/places to buy.
With what money with what cost for manufacturing and what price you're willing to pay !? 😂 Keep the scripted bots comment you guys are doing great 😃👍
My goodness these thieves are proud…well sooner or later the bill always comes due.
Nope. Copyrights here don't apply to there. Just like how all the medications in the US have brand and keep extending patents to prevent generics...Well..The other countries in Asia all have generic versions of these brand drugs at less than 1/10th the price already. Can afford $1k for Ozempic? You can buy a cheaper one at a compounding pharmacy for 1/10th the price with ingredients usually sourced from India or a country in the EU.
@@darklucida Yes and no. You are correct. China does not give a crap about copy right. They steal intellectual property as much as they can. But its only now after everything has gone to crap that they are cracking down on some bigger companies. To try and "Fix" the economy. lmao
What happened Numba 1 need work Order from Number 2?
I feel no sympathy, AHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@darklucida Means nothing when nobody will buy.
Whats with the interupption at the end? Did the narrator got shot by ccp? O_O
TEMU has opened everyone's eyes the the absolute garbage quality available from counterfeiters.
Everyone knew before TEMU, TEMU just made it more readily available to regular consumers by cutting the middle man out.
@@EpicLoLs89 I will give them credit for their ingenuity. If only they could harness their creative abilities and make something of quality maybe they could have a reputable business.
If it took anyone that long to figure out the Made in China label means cheap and very poorly made, that's their fault.
@@EpicLoLs89Yea not having a middle man means it may not meet USA safety standards. I had a friend who bough a fan for her camper from Temu and it started smoking after being plugged in for like 3 minutes. But most of the item on Temu just look like some plastic item that will last maybe one time if you are lucky.
@@Livlifetaistdeth The Chinese are not capable of making new designs. China does not allow free though in there schools, so most Chinese are not educated that allows for new ideas. So all China has learn to do is copy and manufacter and not design and come up with new ideas. Everthing to include there subway system has been copied from somewhere.
They have no honor and no conscience.
well yes and no. when you live in conditions like they-you would have no honor too.
Yes, but neither do many big companies like Nike..
@@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat Yes, everyone becomes a savage in the wrong system.
@@robbyjay8119 A company is a dictatorship, not a society.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop hahaha
The world has been telling them, like 40 years to stop stealing IP and making counterfeit products, and they still won't stop. And it's getting worse. The number of legit businesses and hard-working people hurt by this, who came up with the original idea and designs are astronomical. And in the end, it is we consumers that have to pay for rapidly changing connector designs, and added price for counterfeiting countermeasure costs.
rapidly changing connector designs? I hope you're not talking about USB C standardizations.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
Since when would China stop anything that is illegal. The country is built and still being built on corruption at every level.
@@Purplegreen45 more to it then that
Unfortunately, India seems hell bent to follow in their footsteps
The time has come when producing fake produce , goods and junk items will come to end and the time is now , it's time these culprits pay the hefty price with NO ORDERS AND NO SALE IS A SIGN OF KARMA !
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
I wonder how much of the counterfeit items are Toxic or Radioactive🃏
it would be easier to ask which doesnt have it. lol
they have banned geiger counters ever since people ran out and bought them all to protect themselves from japan and then realized they were being poisoned sometimes 600x as much at home...if that's any indication
@@T0tenkampf when fear mongering backfires lol
@@T0tenkampfbanned in China?
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
It's sad when you get a knock off of a knock off. Often times though, the cheap goods can cost you your health. In items like cheap food items and even children's toys.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
Yeah, remember not long ago China had lead in some of their toys they sold to the U.S. let’s not forget the Chinese children they killed in China with their counterfeit formula…..the list is endless.
One of my relatives proudly showed off his expensive fake watch. He pretends to be rich but eats at McDonald's and stays at youth hostels when he travels. It's bizarre how much effort some people will make to appear rich.
Fake it till ya make it.
Omg 😳
What's wrong with eating at McDonald's everyone eats there .
To each his own😂😂😂
Amazon and US Customs have been onto these guys for years. This may have nothing to do with macroeconomics
Odd or lucky US is actioning, over in the EU Amazon is rife with China sellers in its marketplace and low quality / no recourse. Time and again have managed to find what was wanting on Amazon and says 5-7 days week shipping, order and suddenly becomes 30 days! Check further to find its coming from China! Now before I order anything that is not Amazon core if it lists a China address I keep searching! This vid shows yet again why we need to stop supporting anything from over there!
Amazon is part of the problem. I refuse to shop on there.
Time for trade sanctions by the west.
I have been a US Amazon buyer for years, years, and always spot that crappy china made shit
toxic plastics and low quality goods. not even legal in the US.
Amazon should be punished for selling this.
water bottles and toys poison everyone and still they enter every market. it's a disgrace.
The primary reason this counterfeiting scheme is booming is because there are so many poor people worldwide who like nice things but can't afford trademark prices. No different than buying trademark medication vs generic.
I worked for a year in Addis Ababa, I went to UK for 2 weeks. My Ethiopian colleague asked that I buy a door bell. I said why, it will only be made in China like the ones you can buy locally. No he said there's consumer protection laws in the UK so the can't sell crap that doesn't work. Whereas Africa gets the 3rd tier rubbish that you are lucky if it works for more than 24 hrs.
Despite the UK being full of butthurt people, they have some good laws that protect the people. Recently, it took the UK to force apple to not use their unique charger.
Oh wow thanks for sharing. I didn't know that!
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop hahaha
Even the hamburgers are rat meat.
Same with the fried chicken...bat meat also used in some areas. No joke
If they were even meat at all. Cardboards and what-have-you. They will fake it with whatever they have.
Which you are eating l presume
I don’t care if they manufacture things, I object to the fact that they aren’t truthful, just say they are knockoffs. The price should be a red flag that it isn’t what you expect it to be. China uses loopholes in international shipping where other countries can’t compete.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop HAHAHA
Great news! Thanks for letting us know!
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
everyone pays the piper at some point. enjoy it while it lasts.
It’s a bummer they don’t make their own brands instead of copying other companies and making fakes
you can't make anything when originality and creativity is not only banned but punished by the government.
Creativity is frowned upon by the party
Originality is discouraged by the party
If china created original items there runs the risk they might not sell, or if they did it would give that person or company individuality which is dangerous to the party. Yet originality and creativity allows the improvement of quality and trial and error.
China's goal is to eventually replace everything with there own. They copy peoples weapons, items, and logos all for the purpose of having it eventually become there own. Make it copy it sell it cheap your customer becomes reliant on you, and will alienate China's competition.
Even China's military is a knockoff of Russia and the US.
Imagine if China took all that effort in copying and focused on creating there own original ideas.
They don't have the marketing power nor the quality
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
Dictatorships kill creativity.
When products are sold by weight and not by unit or piece, that gives you an idea how cheaply the product was made which makes its quality shady at best. Prepare to get ripped off.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
They can run their businesses in China and screw each other over, that's up to the Chinese people to regulate and deal with. However this affects Western companies that sell goods on Amazon, as they have to compete with their own products being sold at a lower price by counterfeiters. At that point these digital marketplaces need to come down hard on them.
Yes but Amazon does nothing to protect those business owners. They are part of the problem.
Tik Tok and Etsy work together look out. I gave heard.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
nah thats just capitalism
@@millennialodyssey5956 now it makes sense why amazon return policy the way it is.
This is why I don’t buy directly from China. At least there is a chance I’ll be protected by my local consumer laws.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
I have bought from China and they refuse to pay me back. However my bank has filed a complaint on the charges (Charge back) and i have gotten the money back every time, still owning the crap i got. They are crazy in China, no honor.
The police are definitely in on the piracy. When I lived in China I couldn’t get a non-pirated DVD with the quality of a pirated DVD, so why would I spend four times as much for worse quality. I bought from stores that should be selling legitimate products, but the quality was bad. After that I stuck with pirated DVDs, which shows you how much of a mark-up there truly is on DVDs. I was paying the equivalent of $1.00 for a DVD that the pirates and sellers were making a profit on. Yet, in my own country, the DVD would cost $20-30 or more. Sometimes I saw police buying DVDs too. Other times we were told “not today,” which meant there was going to be a raid. The sellers knew about it ahead of time and would just have the over-the-shoulder DVDs or unpopular DVDs out. They kept the good stuff back and the PSB gets to show off their “fight against piracy” for the West. Even though the CCP loves the money that comes in from counterfeiting, they made little “shows” so Americans and Europeans might buy into the idea that China doesn’t like the counterfeiting either. 🙄
Lol same in Thailand watch markets. They keep the trash out and send a runner for the high grade fakes.
The cure for high prices is high prices. Purely economics.
Counterfeiters saw the vacuum and merely filled it. The problem lies with Bernard Arnault's LVMH asking for way too much for what the goods are worth.
The title of this video seems to say that the Yiwu counterfeit market is going down...but the video itself is showing how great the counterfeit market is going at Yiwu. They are sending tons and tons of goods to all over the world and making boat load amount of money.
Most interesting that in China the Kilogram has 500 grams
I think it is close to other standard right? One lbs ~ 0.454 kilograms?
No in China 1 Kilogram or gongjin (公斤) is 1000g, same as everywhere else. You're being mixed up by the Chinese unit of measurement jin (斤) which is 500g.
@@ro0ster648 they are just joking xD
1kG = 500g in china lol
LOL.....
At 13:17 they note toys are 18 yuan per kg or $2.50 for 500 grams. 18 yuan is around $2.50. But 1kg is not 500g
I bought a small flashlight at a auto parts store. It lasted a few months, made in China. I then bought another one at a hardware store made in the USA. It's working still and has outshined the Chinese tofu shred junk flashlight. Dishonest people they are.
they produce a product, and American companies buy them, if you want to blame anyone it is the American companies that buy cheap China products, or Americans themselves who want a cheaper product.
@@hammothw4814 Can you give an explanation for the Chinese owned companies in Australia that distribute this rubbish. Layers of problems here for us. I yelled at my husband for 3 days for buying 1 product from TEMU, I also look at products and put them back on the shelf if they are from China as I do not trust the quality.
@@playlisttarmacYou want quality pay more out of your pocket which l presume you are not willing to do so. So what is the fuss??
@@vincenttay2812 I pay more and am willing to pay more.
Do not worry about the lead paint in the toys. The bad wiring in the computer parts. Etc. Who cares about safety issues when the items are so cheap? (eyes rolling)
Here is how it works in China (I lived and worked in Hong Kong for 4 years) -
A company e.g. Levi's orders 10,000 pairs of 501s from a Chinese Factory. The factory runs off the 10,000 pairs then keeps the machines running to produce another 5,000 pairs of 501s. So the 'counterfeit' jeans are actually up to Levi's quality and specifications. Corruption works from the top in China not in scruffy bootleg warehouses.
Oh and they will also copy the design and put a Chinese label on it which is exactly whats happening with Chinese Car Companies stealing US and EU Technology.
Its time to produce at home....
It's a shame ,Levi's used to be American made by good union people and were durable. Now it's garbage
Wow I never knew that... but some of those were "state-owned enterprises" weren't they? So... then it means that, they do indeed works out. And sure.. maybe if you were a factory.. and this kind of OEM model... can work out as well.. cos then.. you have the branding things going on. And the export, means actual brand, and export customs too. But now that HK is being reconciled... so therefore.. you can no longer DO that any more. And so many SOEs have closed down too? THEREFORE... what are the government officials going to do with those excess stocks? Sell as second hand. Which is FINE... but... income now "revised brand names"... like the ones that UK celebrities like Beckham is endorsing... like those Hawkes and Grieves ??... I mean, why couldn't they be sold and utilised? So then stay inside the PRC for a while.. and then use that lower price point and rebrand and expand into foreign shores. And then re-uplift back those brands.... if this was controlled in a decent manner.. we would have loved it. But then... the Art. 23 thing came into force. (This is not right.) And then the .. even the Middle Class.. wouldn't buy these kind of second tier brand names, they wanted the higher brand names instead... but why...?.... It should've been these middle tiered brands..... SHOULD'VE STAYED THERE... and slowly migrate and close off those higher brand names.... In an ideal world, that is what should've happened.. but you still have these silly factories that continually produces these designs of the higher brands... WHY ?... We have known this since 1980s !!!!!!!!!.....
Only idiots become idiots.. become idiots.. and we can't even help you. If that carried on..... Then most of us would switch over into the second brands. Which we often do. It is when you guys FLOOD the entire MARKET... whch peeves the rest of us off... no end.... Like, we HATE IT..... We try to help you, but you don't help yourselves. I have seen these decent second brands disappeared as well... those ones don't make it into the UK. But they should make it into the UK. This is why sometimes.. or did... the likes of M&S would buy them out, under their own labels instead. Cos we cannot handle the confusion any more.
I don't even work in retails... but I have noticed that we have dropped to the bottom of the rung in terms of qualities.. cos so many decent brands, aren't even making it here.... to be honest. So... and we are just flooded with things now. Oh.. now we have Primark.. which is flooding even more. I didn't get it.. when I have around 4 pairs of size 10s.. of different sizes.. lol.... I finally clicked. lol.... That was weird.. like.. I was being targetted... and followed.... somehow.... like, a radar is over my head or something like that. I actually do not shop any more. Cos all sizes are wrong. Never the same. Ever. I'm tired. Gave up caring... frustrated. Spent too much. And still getting it wrong... for like 10 years. I am DONE.
Should've stuck with a capsule wardrobe a long time ago. AM DONE....find another piggy. When Yukon Huang stated that the British was nice to China.. he was not kidding... cos we HAVE been SUPER good to you guys. LIKE ULTRA good.. and decent.. but we are done. Sorry.. but we are. Like, I cannot even.. begin... just DONE. This is why the likes of Next just took everything inhouse, and resized everything, and reduced and recreated their own internal thing.. and took control etc.... Better than some kind of workshop labourers.... They now spin off.. new brands and new stores... like Decathlon or whatever.... People need to back off.
However, from January to April 2023, mechanical and electrical products accounted for 57.9% of China's exports, labor-intensive products were 17.1%, and more than 80% of the world's industrial robots increased in China.
More and more high-end products directly compete with European and American products.
they can produce the exact same product for way cheaper, these big brands jack up their price for up to 3000% for exactly the same material that cost between $40-$50
You don't have to buy it..
When these luxury brands are literally made in China for pennies, sometimes it's literally just changing a label. That's the big secret.
@@robbyjay8119 No, you don't. Thus Yiwu. Caveat emptor.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
thank goodness for youtube and social media.
thanks to it, we can know about shitty products fairly quickly, like Temu product reviews and reviews for companies like it.
growing up in the 80s and 90s...we just had to hope for the best.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
This is why you should NEVER buy anything made in china, check the packaging before purchasing to ensure its origin.
My e-mail account receives at least three phishing scam e-mails from China every day.
If it's for evergrande stocks, e-mails are legit :)
In the Transformers toy community, scalpers buy up all the stock rare toys and resell them for 300% profit on ebay and amazon. These knock off companies will take notice and supply Knock off toys to the community; therefore, forces the scalper lower their price and says the product is authenic at 150% of resale price but no one will buy it since the knockoff is match at retail price.
If there’s a quicker, cheaper, crappier way of making something, the Chinese will find it!
Especially with buying online more nowadays, people buy directly from the brand, or even third parties like Amazon, end clothing, Walmart, etc. it’s going to be harder for counterfeits to sell their counterfeits as what they want to sell them as, the brand they are imitating, so unless those people find ways to get you to purchase those items online, it’s going to be hard for counterfeiters to stay in business throughout the year.
There is a whole world of counterfeit goods to be bought freely online and I mean everything, posted to your door in two weeks. They provide quality products and better customer service than most rip off western outlets.
Yiwu and Tewu and the USA pays the shipping charge. Wow. What a deal,
That was an abrupt ending.
If you read the subtitles you will see why. Chinatube probably delisted him for going against the CCP
Mind boggling this is, thank you for making this documentary!
The counterfeit market is exactly why talented Chinese go to the US to develop their products. No point bringing in your innovation to a market that will simply copy your product at pennies to a dollar next week. If you think of China what innovative product comes to your mind? Japan started with copying but graduated to producing its own products like the walkman. When CCP wumaos talk about Chinese innovation it invariably goes back to gunpowder or paper. I topped my school when I was 12, but if that still turns up on my resume at 45 something is very wrong. The lack of IP protection cripples their ability to create new technology no matter how many patents they file. You can see the difference when they have to struggle to make sub-par chips that is no better than a year old technology.
Most people do not understand what you are saying though.... that is the problem.... They won't get it. If you wrote..."maybe now it is time that china had their own new brands. And new customised designs, to their likings"... If you wrote it this way. Then they will get it maybe.When my ex-colleagues said that they usually buy like around 2-3 pieces of the SAME thing.. I didn't get it back then. I get it now. Lol.... One.. they knew that the prices will go up... and two... they bought it in a bigger size as well as the smaller size.. knowing that they would get bigger.. or grow older or whatever.. and it would still mean you do less.. and spend more time to deal with other things in life. I should've done that too a long time ago. Rather than changing wardrobe all of the time.. and annoying myself.... That should've been what I should've done. Cos you cannot find the same thing back again...
Has anyone ever experiences "shopping fear".... ??? I think that they should make a documentary on this actually. Cos I fear shopping... literally fear it.
@@MeiinUK Branding or incremental tweaks in existing products is not innovation. If I have to give an example, nuclear weapons changed the calculus of battles but only the US and Russia arrived at nuclear weapons independently. Mao had to beg Stalin to transfer nuclear technology. China was nowhere near capable. The CCP's "new" military technologies was criticized by their own general He Wei Dong as "fake combat capabilities". The same in the civilian market. Copying only gets you so far. Only true innovation like Sony's Walkman can make a company.
During my three years in Shanghai I accumulated a large collection of counterfeit products often of such high quality as to be indistinguishable from the geWhennuine article. I still have a number of them, including a counterfeit of the Beatles’ 2009 remaster boxed set that I cannot distinguish from the real thing.
There was a huge electronics mall in Shanghai - five floors of electronics knock-offs of surprisingly good quality. I bought my first iPhone there - a counterfeit iPhone 5 that worked surprisingly well - and less than half price, and an Amazon Kindle that was probably produced by the same factory that supplied them to Amazon.
When the quality’s that good, who cares if it’s fake?
It's like this in the replica sneaker game. The fakes are so good in last few years (if you know how to QC and where to go) that they are better than lot of Nike and Adidas original shoes. Especially NIke they are rubbish quality these days, leather is plastic and construction is a joke.
Some are so good you can only tell by looking at the stitching under the liner...
Now the resellers who scammed everyone buying up launches with bots, are now hurting with this economy and more people buying reps. I hope it continues.
@@N4CR5 I also still have my bootleg copy of the 2009 Beatles remasters, including the limited edition 24-bit audio files on the Apple thumb drive. I’ve compared my bootleg to the genuine article multiple times and simply cannot find a difference.
Oh, and I paid the equivalent of US$45.
Vietnam isn’t off the hook too. Lots of Chinese factories are just relocating to this country along with their practices.
The irony is that they don't have to steal IP to be successful. It's literally against the law in France to own knockoffs.
I feel that should become true internationally.
Those manufacturers can make excellent goods with high quality with short turn around times... but often they will try to cut costs by cheating the buyer. So while the sample(s) might be excellent... you will absolutely need to QC the production constantly so they cannot change/substitute components/materials to save costs.
So true, I have family in France and before we go we have to make sure we do not take anything that could be counterfeit. It will often get confiscated at the airport and thrown away.
Lol how do they even police that? Even specialists can have a hard time picking the fakes. I can’t see how it can be illegal to own a knock-off, there would be no way to police it. Maybe buying it is an offence, but not owning it. That would be a really stupid law that would waste a lot of time for little purpose.
How do they make it work? And what happens when they are wrong? Do people have to carry authentication documents for every item they own? That’s a lot of paperwork, how do people pack suitcases without risking arrest?
I slow down a lot on shopping ..I only buy things if I need them not if I want them … even if I need them I’ll probably wait too lmao
Imagine being able to make a prototype within 2 days and yet, being unable to come up with something original, of quality and not copied from others…
In any DECENT country, fake stuff wouldn't be allowed to be sold in shops anyway. Closing them down can only be a good thing.
but eh people want fake goods, so when there is a demand, a supply will present itself.
In India it is creating gold from potatoes !!!!!!!!!!!!!
A few years back Panerai announced a new luxury watch - before it was in the stores the fakes were already available 😂
The dollar stores here in Central America are full of these counterfeit goods. In poor countries like these one will rarely find the genuine articles. If we want quality good the best option here is Amazon--hope they don't send counterfeits--my luck as been good so far.
Huh. Amazon allows this all the time. Them and EBay.
You have Amazon? I’m in Costa Rica, and we need to use a third party shipper, and it winds up being super expensive. And then I have to pay to get it delivered to my place since I’m not close to San Jose.
@@millennialodyssey5956Amazon ships what you order. They won’t send you a fake brand if you order the real thing.
@@duaneaikins4621 I also use 3rd party shipper but not a problem and no import duty. We get all kinds of Amazon stuff here. I'm well aware costs in Cost Rica--which is why I don't live there.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
US is now encountering zero dollar shopping mobs. No more import is necessary. Just go to the nearby shops and take whatever you like. No risk. Free of charge.
Got to say that’s pretty good to counterfeit something that fast.
The face of pure greed….I hope it suffers really badly
Like they always said. "Once a thief..."
I hope they keep up the good work to disrupt the to of over priced products, Thank you for all the counterfeit products.
The counterfeit item of a company today is a countrys loss of face for tomorrow.
Honestly, I’m definitely more weary when it comes to buying inauthentic products. I purchased the Amazon brand cable to charge by iPhone and it was shit. I then forked out £30 to buy one from apple 😜 sometimes, you just can’t cut corners. I do still believe that China has a chokehold in terms of consumer goods but depending on the increases in hourly wage, it may just move to another part of Asia.
Yes it makes me tired too. So, so weary.
😂 sorry, couldn’t help myself
I dealt with a mfg co. That produced large medical equipment & sold 1 to china. As part of equipment warranty they sent a tech over to inspect m/c after delivery. Customer let them see item, it was stripped down n layed out on a warehouse floor with people measuring all the components.
An example is Rolex. A few fake Rolex watches are just as good technically as true Rolex watches. But finding them is the problem. I have purchased fake Rolex watches but only for their bands. $75 verses $3,000 was my motivay.
It's like we've always said "you get what you pay for !"
If it's not China, it's some other nation. But as I am Asian, I am very shame of my own kind. The same time everyone shouldn't have to pay a premium for quality goods, that in today's standards it's not as good as good old days.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop hahaha
If you are ashamed to be an Asian change status to white😅
after lots of pull out to china..now lots of came back to Europe ...a step back to made it in Europe for a higher price.and not made in china.
Graft and corruption will only last them so long. You can blame this on a severe lack of ethics.
FAKE LEGO now abounds!
It's one thing to make expensive items more affordable. It's another to pass them off a genuine.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop
They never pass them as genuine.. the company is known for producing generics
I feel sad I didn't visit Yiwu 😂
All I know is the anytime I have bought something from Allibaba or its subsidiaries the product takes a long time to get it and it’s always garbage (not worth the money).
As someone who has found counterfeit bags that were made BETTER than their high end luxury counterpart...the name no longer matters only the quality of the product. People forget that their store brand goods like Target's Good Enough brand are also counterfeit of the original.
Great comment
I don't know who is Target's buyer.. but I have seen their products, they are indeed of decent qualities actually. Compared to what we get here in the UK.. what you guys get is a lot nicer too? Anything that is of a decent quality ... it is often sold at a MUCH higher price point in the UK !!! It is INSANE !!!!!!!!...... I hate it. I detest it. Absolutely hates it. At this rate, I am going to India to directly buy from them... and get them tailor-made. Sorry.. but I will..... cos this sh!t is going on for FAR too long. Treat us like junk, then don't expect us to buy... even if you tried to help your so called "own people".. Most don't help themselves though... It goes both ways.
Fake brand capital of the world 😂
In the US these items are free now, just take and run away...
$4 to make a Nike shoe is also the real price Nike pays haha
Absolutely. Nike and other shoe makers in china produce shoes for less than 10$ US a pair, and sell them back in North America or Europe for 15 to 20 times its real value. Can you Imagine the profits they make each year? That is why those greedy, traitor companies have forsaken the West, killing the local jobs, went to china and sold their rotten soul to the evil chinese communist dragon. Why this should be news? It is been happening since more than 3 decades now!!!
Won't be surprised. $4 base manufacturing price seems about right, reselling it for $300 and above is pure daylight robbery as the quality is not there.
Bruh it cost more than that to make a Nike shoe, and that's only a fraction of the total cost, overhead costs such as r&d, shipping, employee salary, marketing, store front, loss from theft by Obama sons. If you want to talk about the most marked up item, then it would be designer brand glasses.
@@macrickgotta make up for the thefts
Buy American 🇺🇸
As a product designer I like to take the best bits, component selections and cost-efficient manufacturing methods from the Chinese and copy from them as much as possible to save time in design work. I feel good when I know that I have used something to benefit my work, what the Chinese have done for themselves. I always say let them break their head with solving a problem and I take from them what I need. Circle of life.
And you should hire a team of Hackers to steal more of their (copied) ideas.
Same here lmao. Can learn a lot looking at cheap products, especially if you want to make quality products for cheap.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop hahaha
Imagine a child having a hard time grabbing food at the dinner table with ten other siblings. For decades, many Chinese have been conditioned to be more aggressive or competitive or else... They are insecure of not getting enough. Thats why goods ard mass-produced. Depending on one's budget, one can get a pair of Niké shoes, cellphones, designer's bags and shoes.
so much rubish so much waste. and EU telling us to be eco friendly and care about climate
Remember "Made in Japan" used to indicate 50 years ago? Now look at the current reality.
even 50 years ago, Made in Japan was not nearly as bad as those Made in China today.
Japan always stood for high quality. Different mindset. Highly developed industry even 100 years ago.
Japan❤
50 years ago. Most of us here are not even born. IT's been 40 years+ since PRC opened and reformed its economic system. IT's still the same old shit.
@@Claude_van_Kloten : It's because it was Japan that created that Kaizen.. thing.. and then when China opened up.. They took it literally.. and it created "fast fashion".. but they just didn't stop in time, I suppose... that was all. So... but anyway, most people do have a lot of decent pieces in reality.
I imagine almost anyone who has bought something from China, has bought cheap fakes. I am sure I have. Like Go-pro style cameras...
Signing WTO was a grave mistake to the world
They knew what they were doing.
China is one of the best countries in the world
You have no idea how big the market is for people shopping for their self-image rather than product quality/brand legitimacy. Knowledge is spilt milk, someone develops others copy. It's how tech advanced through history in any case.
True, but copy and producing low quality crap is another. What twisted logic you have.
@@macrick They want to make money and cater to those chasing self-image. They are not interested in producing superior products, that would mean throwing MORE money than the original product to develop. Illogical how you can't see that.
just the facts . .
if it flies, we eat it
if it crawls, we eat it
if it swims, we eat it
if it walks, 2 legs or 4, we eat it
if you dies in your sleep - you've been warned
fundamentally basic survival by any means . .
re-fined sewer oil? - anyone?
The same country that still has people eating fetuses
It's going to be sad if China factories close down cause I'm a consumer of counterfeit goods. I mean the price is just extremely tempting you can't help it
So you knowingly buy trash...man you deserve all the bad shit that comes your way.
Fakes are illegal to buy.
But probably legal to make
@@robbiekop7 You can make some but you can't sell them. Trademark laws here. Lucky for China Democrats are Criminals so they don't get busted very often.
Nobody on earth has ever had their bag or hat confiscated because it was a copy
If you don't catch the company selling it, you can't really do anything about it
For resale in the west.
"A mold within a day?" Not sure I believe that. I used to work in the injection mold field.
Don't underestimate the lure of quick profits.
I mean even the former CEO of OnePlus Carl Pei said during an interview with that one tech CZcamsr Marques that when they are testing for the exterior of the phone, they can send it in a prototype design and receive it by next day in Shenzhen..
China:"The World loves our cheap products!" 🤣😂🤣😂
There are many impoverished people in various countries around the world, and the wealthy are always a minority. People need cheap daily necessities
the only problem is they cant counterfeit quality
There are many impoverished people in various countries around the world, and the wealthy are always a minority. People need cheap daily necessities
They are just thieves, plain and simple.
They spend nothing on design, research or development - take no risks in advertising and promoting a new product in the hope it will become profitable.
They are the just criminals and should be jailed.
Lol, obviously an Anti-China propaganda BUT the effect is not the same as those intended by the villains, CIA most likely. EU & US are bankrupt, they are so yesterday . I want to visit Yiwu & shop hahaha
There are many impoverished people in various countries around the world, and the wealthy are always a minority. People need cheap daily necessities
So stealing is therefore acceptable? @@luxinyu
Chinese law stipulates that forging brands is a serious crime, and low-end and cheap products are a market demand. Not everyone has the money to buy high-quality products
In the eyes of Westerners, China is always evil, and you will never see the real China because we are enemies. In your impression, there will not be any good things in China. It is illogical for such a large country to have no good things
Morals crumble when you forsake god
Yeah sure. From the same bible that says its A-OK for Lot to throw his daughters to a rape mob. FFS how about reading that dreg before you sell it?
You can get a quick counterfeit however, the quality won't be there in 95% of the time. China is great at ripping off other companies designs etc, but they are unable to innovate or design anything for themselves, this shows especially in technology & technological design.
Exactly! No innovation
While I don't like knock off brands I do love me some deals 😂
Scary marketplaces. Buyer beware.
I will never forget the chinese slogan.
If you can cheat, cheat
This whole counterfeit industry could and will end with the right counterfeit chip detection in each product and then scanned by the customers I phone,
This is a direct attack on intellectual property - a.k.a. the higher end jobs in other nations such as 3D designers, marketers etc.
Sounds like a battle of who’s the lesser evil. The big companies who keep charging way overblown prices for their products or the counterfeiters who copy big name brands and sell for a tiny fraction?
Corruption and the ccp belong in the same sentence. Creating counterfeits actually takes away the creative elements of one's efforts. Yes, it's cheaper but at what cost?