Olympus Anti-Shock "0 Sec" - No More Shutter Shock?
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As a follow up to the previous Olympus Silent Shutter Video, I am discussing specifically on Anti-Shock "0 Sec" setting in Olympus cameras, which is also known as electronic first curtain shutter. I explore the origins of Anti-Shock, the problems with shutter shock and how Olympus came up with an innovative yet effective solution to that issue. Why is Anti-Shock an important step for mirrorless camera development? I talk about that too. The Ming Thein article that I have referenced in video is here: blog.mingthein...
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Shortest possible haircut so if pandemic is not over or there is another lockdown happening, I will have more time before the next cut is needed. I am a very practical person.
Cut my own with one of those palm sized Remington cutters. Same length as yours,no waiting,no delay.
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Robin Wong- dittoes on haircut! Looks cool! Happy day! Best wishes!
I have the same haircut, but not induced by Pandemic, but by refusal of my hair to grow :-)
Robin, love your enthusiasm.
Thanks Keith.
you're becoming the goto person to help me learn how to use my E-M1 II. Thank you😀
Three months of lockdown and no reduction of quality or content in your informative videos. It must have been very difficult. You are to be commended for your commitment to excellence.
Looking forward to new street photos. Enjoy your freedom. Be well.
Good to see you outside, bro!😀
I just got back from a 2 week safari in Africa with my EM5.3 and I wish I'd watched this video before I left! I didn't have the anti-shock enabled in my camera despite having it set to 0 seconds. Some of my images are not nearly as sharp as I'd have liked, probably due to a number of factors (longer lenses, higher ISOs, etc), but I'd like to think every little bit helps. Thanks for the video!
Back in the days of traditional reflex cameras, the mirror was the major cause of vibration, and the shutter vibration was so minimal, it didn't matter. Nowadays, with smaller sensors and higher resolutions, the shutter is having more of an effect on image sharpness. Seems like the IBIS system should be able to correct for this as well.
Robin, love your Olympus videos and in-site. I’m a new convert to Olympus. I was frustrated at first with my first Olympus, but now it goes with me EVERYWHERE, and hardly use my Canon mirrorless anymore......you and two other Olympus guys have been a huge help in learning the menus, and understanding its effects. I love your channel! 👍👍
10:18 random cat ... I love this little detail!
An excellent explanation Robin. Really like the way you explain such things in detail so that we can understand exactly what is going on. Thank you as always.
Fantastic, as always, just the right amount of background theorie to undestand the setting properly 😃
Some of the comments you made might give the impression that Olympus was a pioneer for electronic first curtain shutter. But in fact, Olympus came late to that. Sony and, I believe, Nikon and Canon, had this innovation many years earlier. Olympus' feat was to put an electronic first curtain action inside a fully mechanical shutter. This was done with a firmware update to a camera - E-M1 - which dit not, until then, have electronic shutter at all. THAT was impressive. The cost was that the mechanical first curtain was still activated. Only then - and after a very small time delay (but not 0 seconds), the sensor is drained in a way that imitates the movement of the mechanical first curtain.
I'm not certain, but I believe that even in newer Olympus cameras the mechanical first curtain is stil activated in electronic first curtain mode. My reason for believing that is, that also in E-M1 Mark II the shutter sound with mechanical shutter and electronic first curtain shutter is exactly the same. In some other cameras - Sonys for instance - the first mechanical curtain stays open and only the second curtain moves, which makes for a faster shutter actuation and even less mechanical noise.
Your content is superb and your charisma is infectious! The effort involved in sharing it with us all is massively appreciated. Stay safe Robin 😀
The introduction alone was worth a like! :-)
Thanks Robin. I learn something useful and appreciate Olympus more every time I watch your videos. Well done! By the way, I love your wedding pictures.
Robin, you are the best. Thank you for the best explanation about the anti-shock shutter. I follow you and watch your videos regularly. You are the best I have ever watched. Thank you. Coffee from me.
Best video on the topic
Your an excellent teacher Robin! Very impressed, Thank You!
I've had a suspicion that some softness in my photos was for this reason, and I did have to go into the menu deepdive to enable this feature. Thank you so much for sharing this!
So there’s no downside to using “0 sec delay” all the time?
Just been in for a short back and no sides lol, a haircut that is, now to set up my new Oly mk iii, just arrived late yesterday so will be going through your settings Videos, taken a couple of shots with the Macro Lens this morning as there was plenty of rain last night in good old New Zealand, and the plants always look a treat with the water droplets capturing the light and reflections. More great content from you Robin thank you and Cheers !
Good job, Robin. I often find you share details other content providers don't, thank you. Ha, ha Random Cat...
Good explanation, Robin. Makes me wonder why anti-shock isn't the default setting! And, the electronic first curtain is used only for shutter speeds below 1/320s, right? Say, I wonder if using 0s anti-shock counts as only half a shutter actuation? (Thereby potentially doubling the life of your shutter.)
You got my attention straight away , with your haircut....wow, drastic cut. Cant wait for barbers to open in uk. Thanks for sharing video.
Thanks for another great explanation. I had no idea what it was all about.
Thanks Robin!
Brilliant
Robin, you energy is contagious. Moves me to go out and shoot. Sometimes the subject matter doesn’t matter.
Loved 'random cat'...all these things you can see when of the balcony. Was going to donate on the next vid I watched until the Hot Water System died,$1700 to get it replaced.will have to wait for next pension payment to buy you a coffee. Love the haircut.lol
Hey man, if you can't, you don't have to send coffee! I appreciate you being here, and leaving a comment and a like, that is already more than I can ask for.
And yes, hopefully more random cat encounters.
Welcome back to the outdoors and many thanks for your great videos.
Thanks, it is sooo good to be out again.
Robin Thank you... Just fr your info, the new EM1 Miii ( like the EM5 miii) also does not have the Anti shock Shutter Box checked within the menu...however to set it I followed the instructions that you provided here and found it and checked it. Thank you for ALL YOU DO FOR US Olympus OMD Users.... stay well, Mike
Thanks for the video, Robin. Informative. And good to see you back in action in your natural environment 😄📸🤞🏻
I noticed that there was an anti-shock diamond for low burst mode. Will check on my M1 III.
Coffee Ca$h coming your way Robin!! Thanks for some great tech info on Olympus cameras.... it's nice to know the rest of the story!!
Can't wait to try that when i get home, Thanks RW!
No worries, glad I can share!
Anti-shock is more silent, because the first curtain has not to close before opening again for taking the picture. So, still useful (I will activate it when I get a E-M5III, what I plan for the second half of 2020, finally getting rid of my Sony A7 :-)).
Another great session Robin, thank you. And the haircut....well its going to be a while before you need another LOL
Haircut!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
Thank you Robin, you are very,very ,very good (the best) .
Nice and useful! Super happy to see you outside! Thanks a lot!
Good to see you out & about again Robin
Robin always find your bloggs informative and enjoy the information..take care Gerry
Welcome out 😊
Sadly never implemented in the E-M5 Mark I
True
I wonder if it is in the original OM-D E-M1? 🤔
@@valdiskrebs566 As Robin said, 0-second was first introduced in the original EM-1 in a firmware update.
Hi Robin.
Why not have this setting on all the time? Isn't it in practice halving the shutter actuations and doubling shutter life, when compared to a regular mechanical shutter?
Great content! Thank you.
Great video. Would you recommend Continuous Low (with diamond anti-shock)? I feel that sometimes you need more than one photo to avoid someone blinking etc
top bloke! you seem to have an English like accent.
Thank you Robin!
When the first mechanical curtain opens with the 0 shutter? or it stays open all the time whenever you turn the camera on and having it set to the diamond ? so does that mean the first curtain is out of commission with this option and only the rear that works? if so would it be wise to use that option since it is frozen in open as long as the camera is on , movement of mechanical parts is essential to their longevity , if you do not use it you lose it…so to speak.
if my E-M1 Mark II is having shutter shock don't know what to think about FF and MF D/SLR's :)
Seriously Olympus needs to change their naming policy, diamonds, hearts, anti-shock, silent is confusing a lot of people.
You don’t see it on a dslr because of the larger heavier body.
What's the benefit of hybrid electronic open/mechanical close to a purely electronic open/close shutter system?
Thank you for this. Stay safe.
Very well explained Robin. Thanks 👍
Hair looks much better! It suits you Robin. Keep it short.
I love the random cat hahaha, thanks for the great video!
Thank you so much! Thank you! Thank you!
Strangely, when lockdown is over in the UK and the barbers re-open, one of the first things I will be doing is getting a hair cut ! Looking forward to the time when we can travel to Malaysia (and Singapore) again.....
Haircut has never been so important! And please do hit me up when you visit here.
I have an EM5 iii and I think in anti shock 0 the shutter limit is 1/320 sec
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@robinwong : I have two older Pen cameras E-PL3 and E-PL6, which don't have 0 sec antishock. I have used 1/8 second antishock setting in them. I guess it's a good choice for me because I don't shoot action and 1/8s delay isn't critical for me. What would you recommend?
My E-PL8 has antischock 0 seconds and I use it always in that camera.
You have so many endless and very useful ideas. Regarding the shutter shock on the E-M1 III, you indicate that it has been vastly reduced. I am forced to use full shutter with exposure bracketing, (under the HDR menu), as the other options are greyed out. The deeper menu dive for exposure bracketing has very limited options and does not include the classic 3 frames at 2 stops bracket. The full mechanical shutter on the E-M1 II was fine for shorter lenses but created blur with the 40-150 Pro and 300f4 Pro. I have a E-M1 III now as well, but am away from it while on an extended trip in my own country using a Sony system. (I use the Olympus on airline travel). Thus I can not check for a while but I ask; does the new shutter create motion blur when using these two longer lenses with exposure bracketing and full shutter while on the tripod collar? As it is a bracket, there is multiple shots in a row which may not give time for any vibration recovery. I have always been mystified why Olympus greyed out the other options with exposure bracketing under the easier to access HDR modes with their greater selection of bracket combinations.
Thanks’, very helpful information, as always.
So it seems that (on an E-M5 Mk II) Anti-shock is only available for any mode other than Auto?
Awesome video as usual ! So no need to use normal mechanical shutter, just use zero second anti shock all the time ? Even for panning shots of scooters ?
Thank you for this video! What happens to high-speed synch when using 0-second anti-shock? Eg with pure mechanical shutter I can synch my rotolight aeos all the way to 1/8000s. With silent shutter, sync speed drops to the standard 1/250s.
In 0 sec anti shock, when in this process does the shutter even open mechanically?
Well, of course the mechanical shutter cannot just keep closing! Sorry, but this video gives a very confusing and incomplete description. Also, as mentioned by another, does the electronic shutter just stay open all the time? Can someone please describe the entire cycle?
Hmmm.... i have been shooting mirrorless micro 4/3 for years and have never had this problem. Nor with mirrorless aps-c
No penalty for using Anti-Shock "0 Sec" setting? Why didnt they make that the default setting? It is very useful and I could see different quality in images making only two shots in my olympus e-m10 mark iii. The shots were in 1/40 sec and in the antishock image I could see the small text on the wall while in the normal shot I couldnt.
No penalty as far as I know. I welcome correction, if someone else have information that I don't.
Peter Heckert That’s interesting! So an intelligent auto drive mode is needed, that uses electronic first curtain dependent on focus length, maybe aperture and shutter speed. Panasonic has something like that, but I don’t know if they take the focal length into account.
@@robinwong Yes, there is one drawback. With both mechanical and electronic shutter, the shutter button can be held down while the camera is turned on, and a picture is immediately taken. Essentially, the camera takes one picture during boot up, but anti shock waits until the camera is completely booted up.
Sorry Buy I own the same camera and I think that configuration to 0 second AS is not posible
I like the random cat.
I like your "random" cat.
Hi Robin, can you make video about focus bracketing and stacking with om-d.
Thanks for your tips Robin and your pro vs kit lens reply/comment.
Can you provide tips on whether I need polarizing and UV filters for my E-M1 II Pro lenses?
Great video Robin! I have an Emi mkII. There is an anti-shock option in camera2 menu that says : "when shutter speed is below 1/320 the first shutter curtain is switched to electronic. Select the post shutter release delay time". Is that the same as what you discuss in this video? (probably not?). I always look forward to each of your videos. Thanks!
Thanks again for a wonderful explanation. Will this add to the shutter count?
Thanks for this Robin
Great video. Please can you me tell by using this function does it increase my shutter count and therefore wear on the camera. If so please can you tell me what is the expected shutter count of an omd em1 mkii is, I can't seem to find any information on this. Thanks for all your hard work.
Can you do a quick video explanation of the Flicker Scan reduction feature? I can't find any other info explaining it further than what's in the manual. Is it only for video or for shooting in electronic shutter mode as well?
@Robin Wong Robin, what anti shock setting do you recommend for users of the original OM-D E-M5 Mark I?
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hi Robin thanks for sharing, just got 1 question: when not to use the anti shock shuttle?
If the first operation is to fire electronically, isn't the shutter curtain covering the sensor and thereby have to be removed before the electronic shutter can activate?
Does using anti-shock extend battery life, even just a little bit?
I misread this as "No More Shutter Stock."
I was sad and thought "No! The 8 images I uploaded there a year ago will now never have a chance to finally get one paid use in the next few years!"
hi, robin... I bought an olympus stylus one ... can you make a review or something about it? tks...it´s my first olympus...
Done substantial test : there is no noise problem with silent shutter on em1 cameras.
Thank you, Robin, you have just demystified a question I had for a looong time! I've got the OMD EM10 M2, and I'd always wondered what the diamond was for. So, I can use anti-shock shutter all the time then? It cannot be used in burst mode, can it?
It can
What color are your eyes
We won't know as long as he keeps smiling like that
Was this video filmed on Olympus?
Today is the 22nd 😮
yesss nice hair cut sir!haha
ive been watching your videos and learning so many stuff about olympus camera and how to shoot☺️ Thanks a lot professor haha keep inspiring us! students of urs hahahaa
Bokeh Cat, and the shutter shock was . 😹
Schrödinger's cat
Nice haircut ;) and educating video
No more shutter shock because no more Olympus cameras
can you help please my anti shock for continues low andhigs is off only single is on how to change that??
Q_Q random cat got bokeh away.
also where is the setting to choose antishock auto for shuter speed below XY
Shutter shock does not occur at slow shutter speeds. Please watch the video thanks.
@@robinwong you mean fast shutter speeds??
Please watch the video
Tony said m43 is dead. This time for good. It's already in ICU. And electricity from life support equipment is to be cut off. M43 will be dead-dead. So true. So sad.
worst implementation ever - they still advent fixed this since the EM1. useless - total redesign needed.
Please upgrade your E-M1's firmware before saying anything you will regret.