All Dreamcast Vs GameCube Games Compared Side By Side

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  • čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
  • 0:00 - 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker
    0:45 - Capcom vs SNK 2: Millennium Fight 2001
    1:30 - Castle Shikigami 2
    2:15 - Chaos Field
    3:00 - Crazy Taxi
    3:45 - Donald Duck Goin' Quackers
    4:30 - Evolution: The World Of Sacred Device
    5:15 - Evolution 2: Far Off Promise
    6:00 - Hydro Thunder
    6:45 - Ikaruga
    7:30 - Namco Museum
    9:00 - NBA 2K2
    9:45 - Phantasy Star Online
    10:30 - Puyo Pop Fever
    11:15 - Radirgy
    12:00 - Resident Evil 2
    12:45 - Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
    13:30 - Resident Evil: Code: Veronica
    14:15 - San Francisco Rush 2049
    15:00 - Skies Of Arcadia
    15:45 - Sonic Adventure
    16:30 - Sonic Adventure 2
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  • @MoonSarito
    @MoonSarito Před 10 měsíci +1454

    Fun fact: You can still play Phantasy Star Online today on Dreamcast and GameCube at the same time with lobby crossplay with both sharing the same server.
    You can send a message on the Dreamcast and someone in the PC or Game Cube lobby will be able to see it and respond.
    You can even go on missions together with PC players, but unfortunately on the Game Cube it is possible for there to be disyncs or disconnections due to the differences between the versions in some missions.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +128

      That's so cool!!

    • @TheGaara802
      @TheGaara802 Před 10 měsíci +120

      An actual fun fact that's pretty interesting actually

    • @ciaragarrity6425
      @ciaragarrity6425 Před 10 měsíci +26

      Wasn’t that the game with the epic gamecube keyboard? I want that game so much. I heard that it came out exclusively in Japan though. I wonder if that’s true?

    • @mikec.8604
      @mikec.8604 Před 10 měsíci +10

      with emulators ?

    • @markfaraday9204
      @markfaraday9204 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@mikec.8604people brought the servers back to the real hardware

  • @TheJevonjames
    @TheJevonjames Před 10 měsíci +450

    Having a Dreamcast as a kid when hardly anyone else did always felt I was in the future. Plus I always loved that a lot of their games had lovely blue skies after owning a ps1 which often had games that were dark and grungy

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +46

      With the Dreamcast being the first 6th gen console by over a year it was in a really unique spot that I can't really think of for another console at that time besides maybe the PC Engine. With that on the market it really made the PS1 and N64 look passé.

    • @gluedtogames
      @gluedtogames Před 10 měsíci +22

      I loved my Dreamcast so much. Every game I owned was amazing. Literally, every single one.

    • @skycloud4802
      @skycloud4802 Před 10 měsíci +11

      On that point, developers for original playstation also tended to use a heavy fog effect, which obscures the short drawn distances and reduces graphical pop-in.

    • @Wheelio
      @Wheelio Před 10 měsíci +11

      Same. I loved the Dreamcast. Played so much Shenmue and NBA 2K after school on it. When the PS2 came out though it was quickly forgotten and buried under the massive hype machine it had going on.

    • @locked01
      @locked01 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Me: first thinks OP is right 🤔
      Also me: cries in Vagrant Story 😭

  • @pauljensen5827
    @pauljensen5827 Před 10 měsíci +608

    Two of the most underrated systems, especially the Dreamcast. It truly was mind blowing at the time of its release.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +44

      Oh yeah definitely. The DC was like the PC Engine in many ways where it was competing against more popular but inferior hardware only to be outshined by the consoles of its own generation that came out later. That's not a knock on the console itself but in a time where everyone wanted a DVD player it was never going to compete with the PS2. I think both of these consoles are finally starting to get the love they deserve so I guess better late than never.

    • @simon41978
      @simon41978 Před 10 měsíci +21

      I may be wrong but I think the PlayStation crowd was huge in number at that point and the amount of people ''waiting for the PS2'' meant the Dreamcast didn't sell well. Of course, the tainted Sega brand from past hardware decisions didn't help. But, any gamer can see a platform which is doing everything right. And, that was Sega when the Dreamcast was available.

    • @SomeOrangeCat
      @SomeOrangeCat Před 10 měsíci

      @@simon41978 I had no interest in a Dreamcast until after I got word that Sega was discontinuing the system and stores started dumping their stock at stupidly low prices.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@simon41978 That's a good point. There were a multitude of reasons as to why the Dreamcast failed and the PS2 went on to become one of the best selling consoles of all time. For the PS2 you had the big PS1 fanbase already waiting like you mentioned, the DVD player, Sega leaving the console market, Nintendo struggling after losing a lot of 3rd party support during the N64 era, and Microsoft was not yet established as a console maker.

    • @simon41978
      @simon41978 Před 10 měsíci

      @@RetroComparisons
      There were multiple factors certainly. The strangest is that Sega were performing a secret Satanic-ritual in failing. I documented this in a video and found a code showing this. Gaming is precarious and companies often make missteps (and also do these rituals). I just wonder how people could resist the Dreamcast games at that time? I certainly could not.

  • @vmbo
    @vmbo Před 10 měsíci +385

    Don't you just notice? Almost all these games look fun as hell. Colourful graphics and just fun action. No 100 hour grindfests, lootboxes or endless cutscenes. This is why the Dreamcast was so good.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +77

      Plus you just put the disc in and start playing. Back then if you got a game for Christmas you'd just put it in and have a fun time. I can't imagine how it is for kids now when they finally get the game they want, wait 30 minutes for it to install, maybe log in to their EA account or some other BS, and then they have 20 minutes to play then it's time for bed.

    • @sana17mi
      @sana17mi Před 10 měsíci +30

      And no season pass required either.. those were best days of gaming

    • @sergiogarciamartinez7470
      @sergiogarciamartinez7470 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons , facts lol

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci

      @@sana17mi Hell yeah!

    • @zigsteenine8650
      @zigsteenine8650 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Yeah so good it caused sega to leave the console market 💀 Nostalgia man…

  • @LRon-ef7ni
    @LRon-ef7ni Před 10 měsíci +334

    I dunno what it is, but i love the way the Dreamcast outputs it’s image. It looks so crisp.

    • @DuckAlertBeats
      @DuckAlertBeats Před 10 měsíci +81

      Yep it always did. The PS2 looked like trash in comparison when it launched, I honestly couldn't believe it especially after all the hype

    • @LRon-ef7ni
      @LRon-ef7ni Před 10 měsíci +37

      @@DuckAlertBeats I thought i was the only one who felt that way. I was playing Soul Reaver of DC and thought it looked great. Then i played the sequel on PS2 and felt it was a step backwards.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +64

      That VGA output is incredible and it still pops on modern displays. It also helps that a ton of the DC library was native 480p.

    • @Meneldil
      @Meneldil Před 10 měsíci +25

      @@LRon-ef7ni The Dreamcast had a super clean image output using an RGB (SCART) cable, cleaner than the Gamecube and Xbox, and the PS2 had the crappiest of them all. Now I've never used any of them with VGA for the Dreamcast and Component for the other three so maybe in that case that was different.

    • @mentalhell4846
      @mentalhell4846 Před 10 měsíci +15

      ​@@DuckAlertBeatsSony consoles in general output crappy image quality because of the way of how the PS hardware works.

  • @BigPerm2004
    @BigPerm2004 Před 9 měsíci +91

    9/9/99 was by far, my favorite gaming moment. Picking that console up, and getting it home was pure bliss!!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci +4

      That's awesome! It's hard to believe that was 24 years ago:( Though I didn't get one I vividly remember that day being heavily promoted for both the VMAs that night and of course the release of the DC.

    • @iinemesisii8964
      @iinemesisii8964 Před 8 měsíci +3

      was 19 at the time and had to get mine from a local speciality game shop. The guy who owned it had everything for it and I blew two whole paychecks buying games and excessories for it. I just moved out at the time too and got my own place everybody's used to o come over there to play soul Calibur, Virtua fighter, ready 2 rumble boxing and some other stuff I had. Soul Calibur truly blew our minds when we first played it. Skies of Arcadia and Grandia 2 were also great games that I enjoyed playing on it. I'm a type of person didn't even like sports games but you couldn't deny they were awesome on Dreamcast

    • @tristangruener9571
      @tristangruener9571 Před 3 měsíci +1

      and firing up sonic adventure for the first time.... so awesome

    • @shonmoody1706
      @shonmoody1706 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@iinemesisii8964 Same here....I had it reserved at KB Toys at my local mall. Now that mall is a shade of its former self with only a few stores still open...I wouldn't trade the time I grew up for nothing. I wish I still had my dreamcast. Best system ever.

    • @BigPerm2004
      @BigPerm2004 Před 2 měsíci

      @@shonmoody1706 So many memories!!! Hydro Thunder and Soul Calibur consumed so much of my time.

  • @nayarasuarez4649
    @nayarasuarez4649 Před 10 měsíci +113

    The fact that Dreamcast is a 1998 system makes everything even more amazin, and it was still the smallest system of that generation... How I miss Sega's hardware!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +15

      Yeah that's pretty crazy that it was released only 2 years after the N64. I'm sure it would have shown its age by 2003/04 against the Xbox & GameCube but in an alternate universe that could have meant a Dreamcast 2 around that time. I bet Sega would have made a beast of a 7th gen console.

    • @nayarasuarez4649
      @nayarasuarez4649 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons and could they put all that power in that little box by that time ❤️

    • @Gary_Hun
      @Gary_Hun Před 8 měsíci

      @@RetroComparisons Sega DOES NOT number their main consoles.

    • @dgblkbelt
      @dgblkbelt Před 8 měsíci +2

      1999...

    • @nayarasuarez4649
      @nayarasuarez4649 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@dgblkbelt november 27 1998.

  • @neko_samurai
    @neko_samurai Před 10 měsíci +44

    RIP Dreamcast, you beautiful prince. The world didn’t deserve you.

    • @danrise44
      @danrise44 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ofc because Playstation is what world deserve

    • @TheL1arL1ar
      @TheL1arL1ar Před měsícem

      @@danrise44as much as I love the DC and bought one at the flea market in 1999, being almost 40 and with full custody of 4 kids, I prefer a lot of the ps1 games as I age. I don’t think there is a Dreamcast racing game that goes as hard as R4.

    • @miljororforsprakpartiet290
      @miljororforsprakpartiet290 Před 27 dny +3

      A potentially good console, let down by brand decline, launch failures and desperation over generations, so no one in the end would trust the brand with their money. Same story with Atari, British Leyland, etc.

    • @Jetanium
      @Jetanium Před 9 dny

      I definitely deserved my Dreamcast.

  • @jmssun
    @jmssun Před 10 měsíci +87

    The internal quality of PowerVR2 chip is really clean. It always amazes me how colorful and sharp DC rendering is🎉

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +15

      Sega always seemed to be a step ahead when it came to output. The DC's VGA output is so clean and even going back to the Master System they had native RGB out which even the N64 didn't have.

    • @Will_Bx_NYC_718
      @Will_Bx_NYC_718 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@RetroComparisons You're correct sega always made sure their consoles had quality video out. I remember playing games on sega saturn, and then playing those same games on the PS1, and they alwats looked washed out and blurry. The saturn versions alwayts looked crisp and clear.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Will_Bx_NYC_718 It's one of those things that wasn't as appreciated as much back then but in modern times it's a blessing to have consoles that can output such a clean image especially when hooked up to an upscaler.

    • @Will_Bx_NYC_718
      @Will_Bx_NYC_718 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@RetroComparisons What was funny then is when I’d mention this fact about sega consoles to people they just couldn’t notice it. I guess lots of folks minds just wasn’t ready to see higher quality video output or just didn’t care that much. But my eyes notice very easily when an image isn’t as clean as it could be.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci

      @@Will_Bx_NYC_718 I think a lot of it has to do with marketing and plain ignorance. People to this day still think that graphics and image quality are one in the same. I've literally showed a friend how much better the Genesis looked with a scart cable through the OSSC than it does with composite cables going directly to a HDTV and he was unimpressed because the graphics didn't improve.

  • @derekbuckler9888
    @derekbuckler9888 Před 10 měsíci +105

    I bought a modified Dreamcast from e bay last year, has the entire library on it. It was, and still is, one powerful little system. Sega needs to get back into the game industry!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +12

      It was very ahead of its time and even had the best memory card ever with the VMU.

    • @Meneldil
      @Meneldil Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@RetroComparisons The VMU was horribly small in capacity though, I'd have traded capacity over the screen and mini games capacity anyday, I've only played the Sonic Adventure VMU mini game on it until the battery died and never replaced them, which makes the VMU emit that terrible high pitch sound when you boot the console.
      Still my favorite console of all time, hardware that was way ahead of it's time like you said, but terrible build quality at least here in Europe, the internal power supplies always failed, or the GD-ROM unit, or both. I was pissed of when my first Dreamcast would reboot all the damn time until it finally died, I found out a few years later it was the power supply, seems it happens to pretty much all of them at some point. My copy of Shenmue would also fail to pass the loading screen the first time you encounter the Chinese triad guy on Disk 2, it wasn't the disk though, it worked when I bought my second one later, the second one died later too, the third one still works but won't load most of my games, we have emulation nowadays but still.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Před 10 měsíci +6

      I'd love a new SEGA console with nothing but SEGA exclusive titles. There's so many great franchises they could revive, and they could do them in 2D as well. 2D gaming didn't come close to peaking by the time the industry moved onto 3D.

    • @wizzgamer
      @wizzgamer Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@MeneldilSo would I the capacity was ridiculous only 100KB available considering it also had dlc. Even the Mega Drive from 88 had 128KB memory cards for saves and the last gen Saturn had 512KB it should have at least matched the Saturn. Don't know what they would have done if games required more memory had the console lasted.

    • @mcnichoj18
      @mcnichoj18 Před 10 měsíci +2

      They still are in the industry???

  • @raffaelreviews6104
    @raffaelreviews6104 Před 10 měsíci +10

    I had the GC, but I always admired the beautiful DC graphics.

  • @TalesBarros
    @TalesBarros Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow, this one exploded in views! Congratulations, you deserve it! Great video as always.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thanks so much for the kind words! I'm shocked at how many views this and a few other videos recently have gotten.

  • @kinganarkzie
    @kinganarkzie Před 10 měsíci +92

    Dreamcast will always be special to me, not really due to graphics or performance but just how each in house game that was released just felt so innovative. Honestly only met one person who had a game cube at the time, everyone was on the PS2.

    • @Bubba__Sawyer
      @Bubba__Sawyer Před 10 měsíci +5

      I only knew one other kid in high school who had a GameCube.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +6

      There were so many cool and unique games on the Dreamcast which just felt different from the other 3 sixth gen consoles. My best friend had a GameCube but everyone else I knew had a PS2 also.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +4

      Same here. My best friend had the GameCube but every other friend I knew had the PS2 and maybe one who had the Xbox.

    • @stavroGR
      @stavroGR Před 10 měsíci +6

      A friend gave me his Dreamcast for a year back then and my ps2 was full of dust the hole time...

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@stavroGR Haha! I mean there's so many great DC games that you could spend years going through the library.

  • @infinityeight8705
    @infinityeight8705 Před 10 měsíci +37

    The textures and image quality of the dreamcast impresses me still today!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Same here. It still holds up pretty well even now especially when compared to the 3D consoles that came before it.

    • @VGMRealm
      @VGMRealm Před 4 měsíci +2

      And considering this is a console from 98 and gamecube didn't come out till 2001

    • @pawelkania1028
      @pawelkania1028 Před měsícem

      i nearly see no difference between those two

  • @dbzfanatic278
    @dbzfanatic278 Před 10 měsíci +20

    Two of my favorite systems of all time. Just picked up both recently. Gems on each system and each has its own unique accessories like the VMU or the gameboy player.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Exactly, these are both fantastic. I've seen a lot of heated debate between the two in the comments but these each are great in their own right.

    • @user-jx8ip3dj7t
      @user-jx8ip3dj7t Před 10 měsíci +1

      Nintendo Game Cube ❤💚✌🏼💪🤩
      SEGA Dreamcast 💚❤️✌🏼💪🤩
      Sony PlayStation 2🤮🤮🤮🤮😊

    • @miljororforsprakpartiet290
      @miljororforsprakpartiet290 Před 27 dny

      @@user-jx8ip3dj7t FlameCube Soxx it was ps2 that was this Gen it was much beter than all competition except DXbox Ofc.

  • @humnaset
    @humnaset Před 10 měsíci +16

    - Some games have better texture of Dreamcast, most are the same
    - Some games are smoother on Gamecube, most are the same
    - Some games have better colors on Dreamcast, some are better on Gamecube
    - Dreamcast seems to have better texture filtering
    - Both are awesome consoles

  • @Dick_Valparaiso
    @Dick_Valparaiso Před 10 měsíci +11

    When I bought the Dreamcast on 9-9-99 I felt like I had just purchased the future of gaming. The days of "bits" were ending and "Tflops (then Gflops) were yet to be buzzwords. The hardware
    powering PC's and consoles was so different that the average consumer really had no frame of reference. Resolution wasn't about how many "p's" were outputted. It was more "That looks
    so sharp and clean". So, for $199 US you really felt like this Dreamcast could do anything. At age 20 I believed the Dreamcast's only limit was imagination. There'll never be another gen like it.
    You've also got to remember that the Iraqi's thought daisy-chaining a bunch of PS2's together would give them technical supremacy. For a time people seen console tech as near God-tier.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      It's a funny thing where I think for every generational upgrade up to this point it felt like the future of gaming only for it to be outdone the following generation. The sixth gen starting with the Dreamcast really did become the generation that kicked off the modern era so on that fateful September day at the end of the century you really did get something that kicked off the next few decades+ of gaming.

    • @feenix219
      @feenix219 Před 10 měsíci

      I thought that was PS3s? Even the tv show Person of Interest used that as a plot point.

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso Před 10 měsíci

      @@feenix219 Google "Iraq uses PS2" and the first result will be "Saddam Hussein uses Playstation 2 to conquer the world". Person of Interest probably borrowed from the original story. To be fair, lots of people (especially Sony, who were also hoping) thought the PS3's Cell Processor was going to revolutionize modern computing. If you enjoy this kind of subject I highly recommend reading and watching some vidoes about the Cell Processor. Devs who were able to utilize it (Naughty Dog in particular) got some amazing results.

    • @Dick_Valparaiso
      @Dick_Valparaiso Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons There was something extra special about that period of time. Aside from fears of Y2K (which the vast majority of people still shrugged off) the dawn of the milenium was a very optimistic time to be alive. Unlike today where we fear ai's rise and technology being used to spy on us, in those days everybody was just in awe and eager to see what was next.
      In my original comment I touched upon how different console architectures were. I should've also mentioned that the 6th gen was the last time we had four major players vying for console supremacy. People often forget that the Gamecube had beefier specs than the PS2. This was Nintendo's last power play so to speak. And, we all know Dreamcast was Sega's last stand.
      Another thing I find interesting about the Dreamcast was that it launched Q4 1998 in Japan. Just imagine if Sega could've had a lineup of games ready for a North American/worldwide launch in 1998! It's very difficult to say if this could have saved the DC and kept Sega in the hardware business. I have to believe that at the very least it would have gave Sega a good deal more market share, and that the DC might have been able to finish the 6th gen. Sega's move to software publisher might have occured in the 7th gen instead.
      One last thing (which I'm sure @RetroComparisons is aware of) is that Microsoft originally approached Sega to handle marketing and be the name behind the yet to be named Xbox. MS wanted an established name in the hardware biz. Sega, who were still very much supporting the DC, declined the offer. You've got to figure that Sega wanted the DC to be their new beginning. The debacle of the 32X/Saturn burnt too many bridges (EA vowed to never work with Sega again. KB toys were so angered by the Saturn's stealth launch that they refused to carry it outright). So, for Sega to launch another console, regardless of how much more powerful it would've been (Xbox specs were insanely op compared to DC, GC, and PS2), so soon after the DC could have killed all of thier re-established goodwill. Lots of publishers were coming back. And, Capcom was *really* invested in the DC.
      I'll admit that when I first learned about the whole MS approching Sega thing I thoght Sega was out of thier mind. Sega, for a lack of better words, were known for their brass balls. Regardless of Sega of Japan and Sega of America almost always disagreeing with each other, once a decision was reached they stood by it. Being stubborn was baked into Sega's dna. Remember that the Saturn launched in Japan before the 32X did. That's two competeing 32-bit systems from the same company launching only months apart.
      The Dreamcast deserves every bit of praise it got then and most definitely deserves to be held in the highest esteem that it is today. It lauched $200 cheaper than the Saturn did. It had a stellar lineup of launch games. The DC was much less complicated to develop for (which helped in bringing so many companies back). And, Sega pumped out so much quality software in that short span of time. Remember og Virtua Fighter on Saturn? It was such a nasty rush job that Sega even acknowledged it by refunding owners with a free copy of Virtua Fighter Remix. You didn't see that kind of nonsense on the DC.
      Sega started as the hero. Lived long enough to see itself become the villain. But, unlike most stories, Sega was able to regain hero status again and the DC got to die a hero's death on aruably the most crowded battlefield in console history. Valhala, Olymupus, or Video Game Heaven, the Dreamcast is there. Posthumous celebrations like this one are all over the internet. And, diehard fans are still pumping out homebrews to this day.
      I wanted to end with the typical "gone but never forgotten" line. But, is the Dreacast really gone? In the most literal/not in production anymore sense it is. However, just like people swear they've seen Elvis shopping in Walmart while Tupac rings his order up I'd say the Dreamcast is much more alive. If you don't believe me just google "Dreamcast 2".
      *TL/DR* don't worry about it. I like to write in my spare time. Once I get started on something it's difficult to stop. It's all just stream of conscious. If you happened to read this far and enjoyed it, I'm glad you did. I just had fun reliving these memories :)

  • @moe6806
    @moe6806 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I remember as a kid mowing lawns, raking leaves, and even shoveling snow for an entire year in our neighborhood, just to be able to buy the Dreamcast. my parents didnt have a lot of money back then so it was the only way to get video games in our household. the dreamcast was way ahead of its time when it was released. such fond memories.... we bought ours in late 1999. with that being said, you can clearly see the advantage that the GC had, being that it was released 3 or so years later.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci +3

      That's awesome! You must have been so thrilled when you were finally able to get the console. The Dreamcast was definitely worth it as it was quite the beast of a console for its time.

    • @davidagiel8130
      @davidagiel8130 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Bro, in Australia i went fruit picking for the school holidays and had a psx in 4 weeks

  • @hardkoregamer1981
    @hardkoregamer1981 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Excellent comparison video thanks for uploading 💯‼️

  • @robertruggiano5005
    @robertruggiano5005 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nice to see you getting them views! Keep up the great work!

  • @MstcEye
    @MstcEye Před 4 měsíci +10

    I remember reading about this a long time ago. It seems like Dreamcast had a specific way to interpret lightning and particle effects that GameCube had so much trouble trying to replicate. So, most of the time, the ports we had on the GameCube lost some of these effects, but in return, we got 60 fps in a lot of them.

  • @I.Odnamra
    @I.Odnamra Před 10 měsíci +3

    The countless hours spent playing CVS2 with a group of friends is something I will never forget.

  • @stax56
    @stax56 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Dreamcast holds a special place in my heart. Finally own one again and play it everyday. Power Stone is my favorite game by far. Never owned a GameCube because i was super loyal to sega. Thanks for the video, well done

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thanks for checking this out. I missed out on the Dreamcast when it was relevant but now that I have one I probably play that more than any other retro console.

  • @kbrsretrogameroom327
    @kbrsretrogameroom327 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Great comparison! Love both these systems and actually have them sitting next to each other on the shelf in my game room. That said though, for games that are on both, I usually prefer the Dreamcast version.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for checking this out! These are both fantastic and you can't go wrong with either.

  • @johnnymerchant
    @johnnymerchant Před 10 měsíci +67

    I am a huge fan of the GameCube, but there has always been something about the Dreamcast look. Not sure if it's doing some additional texture filtering, or AA, or what, but it looks fantastic.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +8

      I think a big part of it is the VGA output is fantastic, maybe better than the component outputs on the other three big consoles of the sixth gen.

    • @jsr734
      @jsr734 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@RetroComparisons It doesn´t look that different here.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@jsr734 I wouldn't say it's super noticeable like it would be going from composite to component but playing it on a bigger tv without the compression that gets added in with a youtube video you can tell some difference.

    • @jsr734
      @jsr734 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons I´ll give you that. Video compression tends to mess picture clarity. But i think even with compression the difference is minimal.

    • @southsidetherealest2860
      @southsidetherealest2860 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Dreamcast did mip mapping better than all three gen 6 consoles

  • @V3ntilator
    @V3ntilator Před 10 měsíci +8

    I had Dreamcast and Gamecube at the same time, but i preferred all Dreamcast games on Dreamcast only. I never liked any Dreamcast port to any other console or PC, and colors weren't 100% the same either as the original.
    My launch Dreamcast and Gamecube still works in 2023.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I've noticed that too with the DC games being a little off color on any other system I've tried them on. I'm not surprised that your original DC & GC are still working. They used to build consoles like tanks. I can't say the same for my PS3 Super Slim that died within 6 years.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator Před 10 měsíci

      @@RetroComparisons Yeah. It's wrong color on all Dreamcast ports everywhere.
      In 1990's-2000 Graphic chips between systems didn't have 1:1 colors. The worst cases were Amiga vs PC colors. PC had kind of "fake colors" as they were all rasterized. Amiga had clean pastel palette and looked way better than VGA.
      I had 2 broken PS3's (3 years, RLOD), 4.5 Year's (YLOD) and one 360 (3+ years (RLOD). My 360 Black Slim still works after 12 years.

  • @robaxl3088
    @robaxl3088 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I put many many hours into Sky’s Of Arcadia on Dreamcast…it also had the mini LCD game thing you could use to get extra stuff when you are not playing

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That's such a neat feature. The VMU was easily the coolest memory card of all time.

  • @cookieDaXapper
    @cookieDaXapper Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thank you for the nostalgia!!! Gonna crank up the DreamCast TODAY!!!!!!!

  • @GameCubeGalaxy
    @GameCubeGalaxy Před 10 měsíci +13

    Heck yes! Awesome comparison of all the Dreamcast games ported to the GameCube!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Thanks my friend! I thought you'd enjoy this one:)

  • @AgosLive
    @AgosLive Před 9 měsíci +29

    Didn't know the Dreamcast had such wonderful graphics by the time

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci +3

      It's astounding to think that a console capable of these graphics was released in 1998.

    • @000jimbojones000
      @000jimbojones000 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Dreamcast ist basicly arcade hardware thats why. They even used it in the arcades as Sega Naomi system.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 Před 6 měsíci

      DC to this day has a look that cant be replicated.

    • @saraujo88
      @saraujo88 Před měsícem

      Geração TODES não esta preparada ....kkk

    • @99ron30
      @99ron30 Před 11 dny

      Its even more amazing when you play Shenmue 1 and 2 and realise 1998 consumer hardware can do that.
      Sega and it's associates had a close relationship with US military hardware manufacturers. Which is partly why their arcade cabinets and consoles were so advanced.

  • @Kusanagi64
    @Kusanagi64 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Phantasy Star Online was such a blast to play on Gamecube... good times. All my friends, my younger brother and I played it so there was always someone online. We also had the ASCii keyboard-controller in 1... which was awesome. Had to be imported from Asia, but was well worth it. I'll never forget me typing "coffee?" at 3AM in the morning and hearing footsteps on the stairs going down, my door opening up and my bro and I going further downstairs to have a coffee together.
    Nowadays being online is not a big deal, but to us being able to communicate through a games console was so awesome.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci

      That was such an exciting time. Now I wish there would be less online stuff lol

  • @vlc9521
    @vlc9521 Před 7 měsíci +4

    anyone else notice how much smoother and cleaner looking the piture was on the dreamcast compared to ps2 and even the gameplay was faster fps... well atleast felt faster

  • @seansachs6105
    @seansachs6105 Před 10 měsíci +24

    I couldn’t tell you why exactly I feel this way, but something about the shading on the original Dreamcast versions just looks better to me. The colors pop a bit more and the hues are a little richer. It’s especially noticeable in titles like Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think part of it is that the Dreamcast's VGA output looks gorgeous while GameCube's component output, while very good, doesn't pop as much. Also, a majority of Dreamcast games run natively at 480p while most GameCube only do 480i. While a lot can be forced into progressive scan like in this video it doesn't pop as much.

    • @dezecr8or
      @dezecr8or Před 10 měsíci +5

      it fails to the gamecube in every game shown in terms of color depth and contrast...

    • @partytom4184
      @partytom4184 Před 3 měsíci +2

      The Sonic Adventure games are notoriously bad ports on GC. The lighting in nearly every single hub, stage, and cutscene, is broken, the textures are washed out and replaced with often worse quality ones, alphas are completely ruined in almost every instance, and the skeletons didn't work with the new meshes. It's appalling how poorly they ported it, and those ports are unfortunately the basis for every port afterwards. I'm convinced it's the reason so many people hated the games for so long. Many of the glitches didn't even exist in the original Dreamcast versions.

    • @mario4everd
      @mario4everd Před 2 měsíci

      ​​​@@partytom4184sa2 wasnt badly ported besides lighting and some visual aspects. The game runs much better than the dreamcast original.
      Try playing sa2 multiplayer on dreamcast, ITS HORRIBLE XD the framerate is so inconsistently low
      you can tell that was pushing the hardware to its limits.
      Plus all the quality of life stuff just makes battle the superior version. Dx I can understand the debate but sa2 is pretty much better on gamecube from a performance and mechanics/added content point of view

    • @partytom4184
      @partytom4184 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mario4everd SA2 is a better port than SA1 for sure, but it still absolutely destroyed the look in certain areas, and to be frank, the multiplayer was just not worth it imo. Even at the time, me and my friends hardly used it, we would just takes turns A ranking levels instead. I don't think 2 is a terrible port the way 1 was though, that was on me for generalizing. Most of my complaints pertain to DX, not SA2B

  • @chairforce0ne
    @chairforce0ne Před 9 měsíci +12

    From what I could see the biggest difference was in Sonic Adventure with the gamecube playing at 60fps with different models and textures. Skies of Aracadia seems to load faster as well.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci +2

      This is the first video that I've done like this where it is just the small things that are different rather than huge, very notable differences. Stuff like the fps isn't always noticeable at first glance but you can really feel it when playing.

    • @the757general2
      @the757general2 Před 7 měsíci +2

      GameCube Sonic Adventure DX runs at 60fps, but frequently drops to 30fps. Dreamcast version runs at a consistent 30fps.

    • @__1201
      @__1201 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Donald Duck Goin' Quackers looks like 60 FPS on Gamecube but 30 FPS on dreamcast as well.

    • @DragonGrafx-16
      @DragonGrafx-16 Před 4 měsíci

      But I still think the Dreamcast versions look superior for most of these games.

    • @joshuakrieski9628
      @joshuakrieski9628 Před 3 měsíci

      If anything it would be due to the fact that almost all these games were originally made for the dreamcast and ported over. Gamecube can look much better than what is shown here. @@DragonGrafx-16

  • @jmssun
    @jmssun Před 9 měsíci +2

    0:47 this chaotic soundscape somehow captured the actual arcade feel🎉

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker Před 10 měsíci +7

    Two legends in the industry, I still play my Dreamcast on the regular and have been building a GameCube collection up simultaneously.
    The 6th generation is truly in a league of it's own, even today.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +7

      The sixth gen hit that sweet spot. It avoided a lot of the mistakes made from the first gen of 3D consoles, had enough horsepower to look good even with modern eyes unlike the N64, PS1 & Saturn, and it was right before DLC and micro transactions began to become very prominent.

  • @neoasura
    @neoasura Před 4 měsíci +7

    Back in 1999 I won a Dreamcast with Soul Calibur included from winning the local Soul Calibur tournament at Aladdins Castle Arcade, one of my favorite memories. I wish we had online tournaments back in those days to see how I would've competed against other players, back then we had to do it face to face at the arcade, and it got expensive.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 4 měsíci

      That's so cool! And yeah that would have been interesting to see because when I think back there were games like Goldeneye that I was so good at but that was only against my friends. It's a whole different beast playing against people all of the world.

  • @chchedda
    @chchedda Před 8 měsíci +4

    Both brilliant consoles. Older i get the more i miss my GameCube. Didn't realize how many amazing games it had and i didnt play. Definitely close one between ps2 and GameCube as my all-time favourites

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 8 měsíci

      The sixth gen as a whole may be the peak of gaming. It took everything great about the PS1/N64/Saturn and refined every aspect of gaming, had online support but pre-dated an over reliance on DLC and micro transactions.

  • @Stevie2049
    @Stevie2049 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Unfortunately the tools that were used by GameStar didn't work as intended when porting Rush 2049 from DC to gamecube so the end product had quite a few errors. 14:43 is a good clip that showcases a few, transparency issues with the lavalamp and start line, differently colored trees, and further down the track (not in the video) there are even some trees planted in asphalt in the GC version.
    Stuff like the trees being blue instead of green is a direct result of the texture import tool inverting the RGB channels to BGR, and luckily most of the transparency issues can be resolved by flipping a bool within a texture's parameters. Funnily enough it seems like a lot of DC to GC ports have similar transparency issues.
    I do wonder if giving just a bit more time would have ironed out all these issues and made the GC version comparable. At the end of the day though, I'm glad we got a port.

  • @shotgunl
    @shotgunl Před 10 měsíci +2

    Another great video, Bill. I assume that, as usual, you are using VGA with the DC; is the GC over component or a newer HDMI adapter? There are a few more games that I would not have thought of off-hand as being on both (I wasn't familiar with Castle Shikigama 2 or if I had heard of back in the day I've completely forgot about it; I was familiar with Donald Duck Going Quackers but didn't realize it was on the GC too; I am not familiar with the Evolution games at all; nor have I played Chaos Field or Radirgy though I have heard of those two). There seems to be pretty decent parity between the versions of most of these. Donald Duck's framerate is definitely nicer in the GC port though. The Evolution games seem to have bump-mapping or some kind of blended detail textures to give some surfaces the illusion of more detail, wich is interesting. Castle Shikigama 2 seems to have some lighting changes though I'm not sure which I prefer. I only own the RE remake on the GC and RE 3 on the DC (I do have Code Veronica but the PS2 version), so it's interesting to see the color tone differences in RE2 and RE3 between these and SA1 too. The GC version of Skies of Arcadia seems to have a nice load-time advantage. I always wanted to play that game but never did buy it nor acquired it any other way. On the GC is the only place I've played Phantasy Star Online Ep 1/2, Ikaruga, and Sonic Adventure 2 (though my DC did come with a demo of SA2 along with SA1 and Sonic Shuffle). I don't know if PSO has any additions, but SA2 Battle has some nice bonus features. I had thought about buying an import Capcom vs SNK 2 at one point during freshman year of college but didn't. I do have CvS2 EO on the Xbox but never did play the DC version nor have I played the GC port (friend had the PS2 port though). Though I hated seeing Sega bow out of the console hardware business, I did like seeing their games come to other platforms so more people could enjoy them.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thanks my friend as always for your continued support and the kind words:) For the setup I have the DCHDMI mod which takes the VGA signal and does an incredible job upscaling to 1080p. It even offers a cool HQ2X feature which I like to use though I have turned off for recordings as I don't want to artificially enhance anything. For the GC I am using higher quality component cables, running those through the OSSC and taking advantage of Swiss to get a 480p signal which most of the games on here don't natively run. The only one that couldn't be forced into 480p mode on here was NBA 2K2. This is another setup that I do differently when not recording as I prefer to run these at 480p without the 2x mode on the OSSC and rather let the mClassic upscale it to 1080p and take out the jaggies. Anywho, that was probably too long of an answer for the setup.
      One of the biggest surprises to me was the increased framerate for Donald Duck Goin' Quackers. When I played the DC version after having done the N64 & PS1 versions I was so impressed by its framerate only for it to be outdone by the GC. That game overall is interesting in that every port is a little different. In this video I'm playing the same exact level at the same exact point yet they look nothing alike. For all of the shmups in here they're all visually cool but I got my ass thoroughly handed to me. They seemed a little too busy and my late 30s brain had trouble telling the difference between power ups and enemy fire. Maybe I would have been better at those 15 years ago. I have little experience with the original Xbox but CvS2EO is one of the few that I've played. If I recall it may be one of the best versions natively. Both the GC & PS2 versions run at 480i and the stock DC controller isn't the greatest for fighters. The color choices on the RE games threw me off to the point where I had to look it up to see if there was something wrong with my cables. They have more of a green tint to them, especially the 2nd game but apparently that was a stylistic choice and not my cables.
      On a separate note I want to get your take on something for the channel. I was considering re-uploading a few things such as the 2nd gen vs arcade video because at the time it got very little views but with the channel exploding recently I think it could get a second chance. Would that be something you'd be cool with or do you think it may make viewers such as yourself who have been with me for the long haul roll their eyes? If it's the latter please feel free to say so as I don't want to annoy everyone who's stuck with me over the years.

    • @shotgunl
      @shotgunl Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons Yeah, 2k2 looked a bit softer than the others, so that makes sense. I wouldn't mind you re-releasing some old videos.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@shotgunl Ok cool thanks for the feedback! I probably wouldn't do too many re-releases but that's one that comes to mind and I want to redo some older ones that I could improve upon.

    • @ll_spud
      @ll_spud Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@RetroComparisonsJust do it. I'm new to ur channel so it will be good to see.
      Also thanks for ur details explanation on ur setup for the comparison. It definitely helps explain the difference and show how much work and thought u put into making ur videos. Greatly appreciated. 👍👍

  • @Rationalific
    @Rationalific Před 7 měsíci +4

    Thanks for these interesting comparisons! I'm not sure if it's due to the capture method or something, but in the vast majority of cases, the Dreamcast versions look sharper and better white-balanced.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! It's possible it's a capture thing. The Dreamcast is running via the DCHDMI mod which takes the VGA signal and upscales it to 1080p. The GameCube is running via high quality component cables and being upscaled to 1080p by the OSSC. With the 2 different methods it may cause some differences.

    • @Rationalific
      @Rationalific Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons Thanks for the reply! I see! That may be part of it. Even so, there are times when the GameCube looks crisper and has better color, so then again, it could still have to do with the games and systems themselves to a great extent. No matter the minor contributions of each thing, your comparisons are very enlightening! Thanks again!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Rationalific Thanks so much for the kind words and for your support:)

    • @Rationalific
      @Rationalific Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons No problem! 🙂👍

  • @paulmidgley8040
    @paulmidgley8040 Před 7 měsíci +6

    My god, how awsome would a Dreamcast 2 be. Just thinking about it gets my heart racing.

  • @cormelano1
    @cormelano1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video, thanks!

  • @costasvasilogiannakis7816
    @costasvasilogiannakis7816 Před měsícem +1

    Very nice video great work

  • @hardkoregamer1981
    @hardkoregamer1981 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Also i see subtle differences between the two system's ports with screen ratios, textures and details and color choice differences between primary and oversaturated colors used in each game between the two systems.

    • @hoodknewz4890
      @hoodknewz4890 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Sounds are different, too. I was actually impressed by the GC. The colors and textures really pop on the GC. The DC is totally "Arcade". I don't think either is better. I still can't get over the "STICK YOUR MONEY IN MY DIRTY SLIT" aspect of SEGA.

  • @jasonvaughn3478
    @jasonvaughn3478 Před 7 měsíci +8

    The Dreamcast really was a bit ahead of its time. It came out 2 years before the Gamecube. I worked at Software Etc when the Dreamcast was coming out. We had gotten our hands on a Dreamcast from Korea and demoed it in our store ahead of the US release to generate pre-orders. Sonic Adventure blew peoples' minds.

    • @soldatheero
      @soldatheero Před 4 měsíci

      yeah i was pumped to have my friends over and show them the opening ssonic level when the cam looks back and shows the whale. the graphics were undeniable

  • @EliLemke-ft3fs
    @EliLemke-ft3fs Před 2 měsíci +2

    Dreamcast felt quite literally like i was casting my dreams

  • @TruckerJenkins82
    @TruckerJenkins82 Před měsícem +1

    Blew me away seeing the Dreamcast demo in my local HMV back in 98'.

  • @fabriziomanni6890
    @fabriziomanni6890 Před 9 měsíci +16

    The difference in IQ, textures details is huge, Game Cube is a much more powerful and sofisticated piece of hardware, it was released almost 3 years later; but it must be said the Dreamcast was very impressive at the time of its release.

    • @heilong79
      @heilong79 Před 8 měsíci +6

      The diffeence is not 'huge' at all.

    • @fabriziomanni6890
      @fabriziomanni6890 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@heilong79 it is, night and day.

    • @LucreBem
      @LucreBem Před 8 měsíci +4

      The difference is huge where? The GC textures are stretched in most games. In Hydro Thunder the GC port clearly has pretty lower resolution textures.

    • @milan51259
      @milan51259 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@fabriziomanni6890 It isn't. You would have to put two typical TV's from that era side-by-side to see the difference.
      Only difference between original Dreamcast games and Gamecube games is really big, but this was also the time when 1 single year would mean a leap in graphics quality improvements.

  • @Chrozi
    @Chrozi Před 10 měsíci +8

    They all look pretty darn close, Donald Duck seems to pop more on GameCube, the Sega produced titles look better on DC, especially the boats in Hydro Thunder.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +4

      The cool thing about the Donald Duck game is that the GameCube version is different from the Dreamcast version which is different from the PS1 version and it's fun on all 3 so you can get a different experience out of each. Yeah Hydro Thunder and Rush 2049 do pop a bit more on the Dreamcast. The GameCube ports of those are from Midway Arcade Treasures so they probably had less work put into them since they weren't standalone titles.

  • @supersmashmaster43
    @supersmashmaster43 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I grew up with the GameCube and in the 6th gen era of GC, PS2, and, Xbox but was too young to know of the Dreamcast (born in 2000.) I probably learned of the dreamcast sometime around 2010/2011 when my older sister told me about it. I used to come across vids on youtube as a kid and was fascinated to learn about the dreamcast and that Sega used to make consoles basically before my time. Growing up, sonic being on nintendo and other consoles was normal for me, so also learning that Nintendo and Sega were rivals at one point was also super interesting. In a way it’s like the Dreamcast was an alternate Gamecube from an alternate world lol

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing your story! It's always interesting for me to hear about the experience with consoles like these from someone a lot younger than me. I was born in 86 so I was all about the Genesis and wished I had the Dreamcast but couldn't afford it at the time. It's so crazy for me to think about Sonic being on Nintendo consoles being a normal thing for so many people now where it still feels wrong to this day for myself and I'm sure a lot of others around my age.

  • @griplimit
    @griplimit Před 10 měsíci +5

    I absolutely Loved Skies of Arcadia! Probably my favorite game on Dreamcast next to Shenmue.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci

      I can't believe how well that holds up graphically even now.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci

      @@padeprenom It really does look great even in 2023 which you can't say about a ton of 3D games from that era.

  • @michael-zg5fq
    @michael-zg5fq Před 10 měsíci +13

    We need more Arcade style games from Sega

    • @Blas4ublasphemy
      @Blas4ublasphemy Před 10 měsíci

      Would love a Daytona USA online game with a full grid of real racers!

    • @lordgogo2686
      @lordgogo2686 Před 10 měsíci +3

      You’re so right! Nowadays, games often want to be movies, and bad ones, unfortunately.

    • @michael-zg5fq
      @michael-zg5fq Před 10 měsíci

      @@Blas4ublasphemy yeah I still play Daytona and sega rally on PS3

    • @michael-zg5fq
      @michael-zg5fq Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@lordgogo2686 yeah that's true, sometimes you need games that you can complete within an hour or 2 and still want to play again few days later

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 Před 3 měsíci

      They can’t because Gen Zs or Gen Alphas are going to disrespect arcade style games thinking they’re rushed or it’s too short

  • @thomaselers7416
    @thomaselers7416 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great upload!

  • @mullerarcade
    @mullerarcade Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very cool! Liked! 😀✌🏾💯

  • @DuckAlertBeats
    @DuckAlertBeats Před 10 měsíci +12

    Dreamcast was a beast. Bought a Hong Kong model imported at the time and had it chipped (modded) for multi region use. Possibly my fav console ever out just felt amazing at the time.
    There's something up with your capture though, all that stuttering, that's not right :(
    Both these consoles ran most of these games at 60fps or close to

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      The only thing I can think of with the stuttering were for 480i games that were being forced to run at 480p though on the Dreamcast there weren't many that weren't natively 480p.

    • @jsr734
      @jsr734 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Not all games ran at 60. Some were caped at 30. And even the ones that got to 60 had trouble keeping up all the time.

    • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
      @BlueEyedVibeChecker Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jsr734 Aged hardware has a similar effect.
      I have some solid 60/30fps games on my Xbox 360 that now drop down into the low 20's.
      It doesn't affect all games, but some, even Sonic Adventure 2 which was a solid 60fps on both systems sometimes has dips on both.
      (I fixed the Dreamcast for the most part with replacement thermal pads, but repasting my 360 wasn't as effective. So maybe it's a thermal throttling issue?) I cannot confirm this though. But my PS3 Slim was also the same until I repasted it, dropping frames in previously 60fps games.
      Sidenote:
      Arctic MX 5 paste and Thermal Grizzly thermal pads are the ones you want if you plan on repad/pasting consoles like these.

    • @jsr734
      @jsr734 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BlueEyedVibeChecker Interesting, may be the Xbox 360 and Ps3 cpu´s slow down their clock speeds when they detect they are overheating too much? 🤔

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 Před 3 měsíci

      “Dreamcast was my favorite console!”
      Immediately has a pfp of a Nintendo game

  • @WalterdasTrevas
    @WalterdasTrevas Před 7 měsíci +9

    Apparently, the difference is in the color palette, sometimes more contrast, sometimes less contrast. However, in the 18 Wheeler game, the Dreamcast version has more beautiful skies. On the Gamecube it's monochromatic.

    • @SamRecon
      @SamRecon Před 7 měsíci +1

      Remember this games where just port from dreamcast with no rework, nothing was rivals graphics Resident Evil 4, RE HD, RE zero, Zelda series, etc. where gamecube was a head of is time.

  • @jerstrike
    @jerstrike Před 4 měsíci +1

    DC needed a Resident Evil port to have the most complete RE initial experience

  • @sf2zero
    @sf2zero Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great vídeos pal... looks like you found the Path of success since you started making these kind of videos, huh?

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks my friend! It's weird, I had like 5 or 6 of these in the row that randomly hit the youtube algorithm jackpot and after putting out my most recent it looks like I'm back down to a lower view count again. Oh well lol

  • @joebloggs2534
    @joebloggs2534 Před 10 měsíci +4

    A lot of Dreamcast games aren't really ports since the console was based on the Naiomi arcade hardware, only with slightly less memory. They are essentially arcade perfect, compared to the GameCube thet actually had to be ported over.

  • @stevensmith6445
    @stevensmith6445 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Having a Dreamcast on release felt like owning a 4090!

  • @neezy1
    @neezy1 Před 23 dny +1

    Recently started Skies of Arcadia Legends, having a blast!!

  • @AdamJDM1
    @AdamJDM1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have my Dreamcast hooked up to a Sony Trinitron VGA PC monitor and the thing looks amazing. I just ordered a VM2 so I no longer have to hassle between 20 different VMUs, plus modified my console with MODE so have my whole library already on the system. Dreamcast is still a blast to play and better than ever now in 2024!

  • @JonnyCrackers
    @JonnyCrackers Před 7 měsíci +5

    My brother and I saved our allowance for 6 months to get a Dreamcast. It had such fun games and the graphics were amazing at the time. It was such a bummer when it eventually faded out after the PS2 and Gamecube came out.

  • @dragoneater6771
    @dragoneater6771 Před 10 měsíci +20

    I don’t know, dude, I still think Dreamcast is better. But then again, I am biased because I purchased a Dreamcast at it’s launch

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +7

      The Dreamcast had the most memorable launch that I can think of. I was in 8th grade and everyone was pumped for 9/9/99 and not just for the VMAs lol. I'm torn because both have incredible games but I'm also biased since I have a deep love of the DC as well.

    • @derekbuckler9888
      @derekbuckler9888 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah I had one to dragon, then made the mistake of trading it in. Last year I purchased a modified dreamcast from e bay, has the entire library with an ODE installed. Never will I abandon such a wonderful system again, it's still the best dragon

    • @patrickvalmont
      @patrickvalmont Před 10 měsíci

      You’re not being biased bro, I say the same thing. As once an owner of the gamecube, some of the DC games render better than GC.

    • @themollymachine
      @themollymachine Před 10 měsíci

      Me to. 9.9.99

  • @abcmaya
    @abcmaya Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow! both versions of Namco Museum are pretty much arcade perfect!!!

  • @haveacigar5291
    @haveacigar5291 Před 4 měsíci +2

    dreamcast had such a crisp feel

  • @rafaelsiano
    @rafaelsiano Před 9 měsíci +8

    Wow. I didn't imagine it would be so close! Gamecube was an amazing system in the graphical department, being ahead of the ps2 and only behind the xbox. Seeing the Dreamcast performing side by side with the GC have me wondering if Sega was still in the game during that console war Dreamcast could have been very competitive! It would be VERY interesting to see how the Dreamcast would run Resident Evil 4 for example. A game that was WAY prettier on the Gamecube than on the ps2.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 9 měsíci +4

      Stuff like RE4 would be quite the test to see how well the DC held up for later games in the 6th gen. I always wondered if Sega would have released a 7th gen console by 2004 since they got an early start in the 6th gen.

    • @Dd-fb2tj
      @Dd-fb2tj Před 20 dny

      it wouldnt compare well...gamecube was far more technically advanced

    • @David-ln8qh
      @David-ln8qh Před dnem

      @@Dd-fb2tj Yeah, it's not even close. Plenty of Gamecube games had no hope of running on the Dreamcast.

  • @mundocpc
    @mundocpc Před 10 měsíci +5

    Two of the consoles I enjoyed the most back in the days. I still have both and all the games. From this list, Skies of Arcadia will always have a special place on my heart. Such an awesome game in both systems, with a bit more detail in the Cube. Subtle differences, though.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      These both had fantastic libraries and you could be stuck on a desert island with just these 2 consoles for decades and still be having fun. Well assuming that island had electricity for some reason lol

  • @WT83
    @WT83 Před 15 dny +1

    Dreamcast was a legit powerful system. Competitors that came out years later weren't crushing it despite the extra time. It probably could have handled most ports, especially with a 30fps cap on the more power hungry ones.

  • @Cheeph40oz.
    @Cheeph40oz. Před 10 měsíci +2

    This comparison vid proves that the dc was light years ahead of its time.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci

      It's crazy to think how it was released in 1998 and looked this good.

  • @Iamfirebird360
    @Iamfirebird360 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Dc was so ahead of its time. The best console of that era imo. It was like the arcade at home.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It really did seem like that's when the arcade became less relevant. Why spend tons in quarters when you have a similar experience at home?

    • @MH-yp6wg
      @MH-yp6wg Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, arcades lost a lot of appeal then.
      Still had the crowd factor and special cabinets/equipment like huge screens, 8 player network games, very special controllers, hydraulics, racing games in real cars and the like.
      People often forget that.

  • @AlucardsQuest
    @AlucardsQuest Před měsícem +3

    Some of these are debatable, but Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 generally look better on Dreamcast. There are whole videos dedicated to why.

  • @thanhvt2707
    @thanhvt2707 Před měsícem +1

    I don’t know why, but I revisit dreamcast’s game occasionally. Maybe I had so much memories with it when tried emulating it on my old computer when i was a young boy ❤

  • @css9375
    @css9375 Před 17 dny +1

    Dreamcast was really a beast machine. Sega Gt, re code veronica, msr, so many excellent games.

  • @VegasD702
    @VegasD702 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Gamecube rendered colors darker and some more bright. The Dreamcast looked more realisitc. The GameCube looked more like a video game

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That’s literally the point

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 Před 3 měsíci

      Saying the Dreamcast looks realistic and the GameCube looks like a video game is like saying Dreamworks looks realistic and Disney/Pixar looks like a cartoon

    • @VegasD702
      @VegasD702 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 i don't know about that one but in real life not everything is sharp. Hence why portrait mode looks good. Irl you're not focusing on every single detail. You have what's called a focal point or focus. The GameCube has no focus and is just jagged/lined. That blurring effect the dreamcast has indeed make it look more realistic. You can disagree but to post under my comment as if you're correct ain't gonna get no where

    • @VegasD702
      @VegasD702 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 but I bet the content creator ain't gonna heart your comment because that was bs.

    • @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000
      @Thewolfguys.cartoons2000 Před 3 měsíci

      @@VegasD702 no shit sherlock

  • @KenChanFr
    @KenChanFr Před 8 měsíci +5

    Crazy Taxi without the Offsprings is just not the same game at all...

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 8 měsíci +1

      It does feel empty without Dexter's voice in that game.

  • @SvenundTamaraLegendsofAlanya
    @SvenundTamaraLegendsofAlanya Před 10 měsíci +2

    Nice Work......Respekt

  • @theconsigliere8463
    @theconsigliere8463 Před 8 měsíci +1

    never had a gamecube pretty impressed in most these games, i do have 2 dreamcast hydro thunder i still think looks best on that but am impressed with how well the DC has held up

  • @parazels83
    @parazels83 Před 10 měsíci +6

    How does Dreamcast always have so bright and contrast colors?

  • @BetterLatethannever123
    @BetterLatethannever123 Před 10 měsíci +8

    GameCube had the best overall graphics of that era, but dream cast was so much smoother with that power VR chip. It even did anti-aliasing better too! Loved both these systems.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      You really can't go wrong with either of these consoles.

    • @gamesandplanes3984
      @gamesandplanes3984 Před 10 měsíci +5

      No. Xbox did. And it wasn't even close.

    • @BetterLatethannever123
      @BetterLatethannever123 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@gamesandplanes3984 Nah, some of the GameCube only games (Nintendo 1st party)were just amazing for a console back then, I remember playing Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventures, and other games and I was astonished by the colors and polish of those games. Xbox was good too, but I never saw something on it that made my literal mouth drop like GameCube, especially if you used component cables and not composite video cables back then. What made Xbox amazing was the mod chips scene back then. That was fun times for sure! 😆👍

    • @JackInABeanstalk98
      @JackInABeanstalk98 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@BetterLatethannever123 Halo 2, Ninja Gaiden, DoA Ultimate 2, all the high end PC ports at the end of its life. Soulcalibur 2 ran in HD 60FPS. Xbox brute-forced its way through most of the shitty PS2 ports that constituted 6th-gen multiplats and is widely known for being a beast back then even when GCN was dated. They could have pulled incredible things out of that had they not retired it so early

    • @gamesandplanes3984
      @gamesandplanes3984 Před 9 měsíci

      @@BetterLatethannever123 lol. My dude... It's not even disputed or controversial. Xbox was most powerful. By a lot. Hell, Doom 3 looks like an Xbox 360 game.

  • @user-rc5ls2gq7wit8zutxo
    @user-rc5ls2gq7wit8zutxo Před měsícem +2

    Dreamcast was first real serious 3d game console. Unreal tournament, rayman 2 (best version of this game), sonic adventures, ready 2 rumble, metropolis street racer and some more... My teenage was with Dreamcast & i love it❤

  • @braikingboss9137
    @braikingboss9137 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I will always love the dream cast. I grew up playing it and it felt so amazing!!! What time to actually have played it! I still have my original white one. Along with fifteen fantastic games that are very expensive now. I also have two hello kitty editions and they regulation 7 edition❤

  • @MKF30
    @MKF30 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Great comparison man. Honestly I feel most games for both are nearly identical, some look a little better on the DC others the GC depending on the game but most of these side by side if you dont list which belongs to what console would fool most people i feel. I could swear I read way back that the GC actually has better specs than the ps2 or at least matches it. It's just that generation ps2 outsold everything else even if it wasnt the best console as far as pure hardware. I know for a fact online it was bad i had all 3 that gen and xbox played a million times better online and my GC games loaded way less than the ps2.
    But yeah for GC and DC i also own both both very underrated consoles. The GC may be Nintendos most underrated console.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks buddy! Yeah so many are close enough that if the console names were flipped I'd be easily fooled into believing they were on ports of the other console. I've heard that too about the GC being more powerful than the PS2. Out of the 4 big consoles of the 6th gen that one has the worst output on modern TVs as they're almost all 480i resolution which only really looks good on a CRT or passable running through a Retrotink 5x. The thing though that I think really pushed the PS2 as being the biggest seller was that it had a DVD player. It was probably the first time ever where even non-gamers wanted a video game console.

    • @MKF30
      @MKF30 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@RetroComparisons Yeah I remember that haha the xbox original also had a DVD player and cd 💿 but that came out after the ps2 IIRC. Youre welcome bud! You Always do a great job!

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@MKF30 You're too kind! Haha it's funny to think about the days when DVD players were more expensive than a game console.

    • @MKF30
      @MKF30 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@RetroComparisons lol yeah I know right? Back then it was "hey we have DVD and Blu-ray players. Now it's our console supports youtube and this app, that app etc but I think people are less interested in that stuff and just want to play the games lol. You're welcome, I can tell this is like hours of work, editing etc I just edit regular vids sometimes for my channel so I feel that pain man. lol It's good to see longer vids payoff you know?

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@MKF30 Lol so true! With smart TVs and stuff like that I think we're finally back to the days of only gamers wanting to get consoles. And thanks again buddy! There were years where I was putting in sometimes up to a couple hundred hours for a particularly long video and getting a couple hundred views so getting this explosion of views recently is extra gratifying.

  • @ThePatman1980
    @ThePatman1980 Před 10 měsíci +8

    I've owned both but I prefer Dreamcast over the GameCube because it has Shenmue II which is my 2nd favorite game of all-time behind OG FF7. But I came to appreciate GameCube more by 2021 after getting a Z Flip3 and emulating games with Dolphin MMJ and MMJR2.
    I played NBA Street Vol. 2 and Mario Kart: Double Dash!! for 200+ hours each for 6 straight months. Z Flip3 + GameCube emulation which then led to PS2 emulation via AetherSX is what brought me back to gaming. From the previous 14 years before 2021, I played mostly casual mobile games.
    Hardware-wise, GameCube is better across the board. More powerful, more comfortable controllers albeit short cords, and quieter. The sound from the Dreamcast sounded like a helicopter. Loudest console I've ever owned but it did have a nicer design than the GCN, PS2, and first Xbox.
    If I was stuck on an island (with electricity) and can only pick between DC or GCN, I'd pick Dreamcast. I would just tolerate the loud sound and awkward controllers where the plug is at the bottom to make room for VMUs on the top.
    I'm not sure Dreamcast would've handled Star Fox Adventures the way GameCube did when it could barely handle Shenmue II that the Xbox handled with ease.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci

      Being stuck on a desert island with a Dreamcast sounds incredible and a great way to finally catch up on a backlog of games lol! Both consoles had amazing libraries much like the SNES & Genesis before them.

  • @jaimegonzalez360
    @jaimegonzalez360 Před měsícem +2

    Dreamcast estuvo 2 años en el mercado y en ese tiempo hizo maravillas. Imagino si hubieran actualizado sus kits de desarrollo.

  • @PCFix411RetroZone
    @PCFix411RetroZone Před 3 měsíci +1

    Even when emulating Dreamcast games, its amazing to see the quality in the graphics. When upscaled to HD.They were all about quality arcade ports.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 3 měsíci

      They look crazy good on real hardware even. This is using the DCHDMI mod to get the VGA output upscaled to 1080p and it's so crisp.

  • @andymireau1646
    @andymireau1646 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Spectacular GameCube performance. I always loved it most of all

  • @aaronrocs
    @aaronrocs Před 10 měsíci +3

    I wish I would have bought a Dreamcast, but instead I skipped over Playstation to get a Sega Saturn and after that vowed to never buy a Sega console again.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think that was the case for a lot of people and it's hard to blame anyone for feeling burned after the 32x and then the Saturn getting the shaft not long after it came out.

  • @paulmidgley8040
    @paulmidgley8040 Před 7 měsíci +2

    apart from the first time I played ocarina of time my next most memorable gaming experience was playing shenmue for the first time on Dreamcast oh and of course Ready 2 Rumble. Fantastic machine.

  • @MaximumRD
    @MaximumRD Před 10 měsíci +2

    I think both are pretty great for the time, you don't lose out regardless of which you pick. That said I owned and played and loved DREAMCAST back in the day, I did not own a GameCube originally. Today I have two modded GameCube's and still 4 Dreamcasts and I really need to try to play more GameCube at some point.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +3

      It's a lot like the SNES vs Genesis where no matter what system you had it was a win.

    • @AgentMorgan2010
      @AgentMorgan2010 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Had both when they were contemporary, loved both. Dreamcast still wins out in my book. But GameCube was a great party machine as well with stuff like PacMan VS.

  • @kenh6096
    @kenh6096 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I was expecting the CG to have the edge due to it's superior hardware specs on paper, but was genuine surprised as to how well the DC did. I actually preferred the visuals on many of the DC versions there.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +5

      Same here. It may be more of the fact the GC was porting over older games rather than making new ones from scratch as a lot of those look incredible.

    • @leomariano2735
      @leomariano2735 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@RetroComparisons And a lot of those games are actually N64 ports, so both systems have a good overhead to hit the frame-rate target, specially considering this is pre-HD era and you can´t up-res it over 640x480

    • @albertmas3752
      @albertmas3752 Před 10 měsíci

      @@leomariano2735 That's not completely true. Many games through VGA cable worked at higher resolutions on DC, few of them like Soul Calibur that reached 1024x768 but most played at 800x600 and some at the regular 640x480.

    • @CL-Filmz
      @CL-Filmz Před 10 měsíci

      @@albertmas3752 DC has a faster GPU, but I think everything else is better on GC.

    • @albertmas3752
      @albertmas3752 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@CL-Filmz No, no. Even GC's GPU is more powerful. It's not that GC wasn't powerful enough to work at higher resolutions. It's that VGA was never supported by Nintendo on GC thus no games could be compatible with a 3rd party unsupported cable and TVs could only work with 480i (575i for PAL TVs).

  • @joytam343
    @joytam343 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Dreamcast WIN !

  • @cannedcoochiebread
    @cannedcoochiebread Před 3 měsíci +1

    Gamecube RE2 is so nostalgic to me. Used to watch my Uncle play the entire series 💀

  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sonic Adventure was compromised graphically when DX version came out for the GC, PS2, XB, PC. They lacked the hardware the DC had, it wasn't until fans created a patch to restore the DC graphics which made SA DX just like DC SA.

  • @Isoquant
    @Isoquant Před 10 měsíci +9

    GC was a great target system for dreamcast ports, typically showing better color, increased resolution, higher framerates, and improved textures.

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Most definitely. The only unfortunate thing was that a lot of the GC games ran natively in 480i though most games can be forced to 480p with Swiss. Then again with a CRT 480i isn't nearly as bad as it is on modern displays.

    • @albertoos
      @albertoos Před 10 měsíci +3

      You kidding me, dreamcast better quality and performance

    • @fqnfinancas3431
      @fqnfinancas3431 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@RetroComparisonsVGA vs Cabo componente. Vc tem certeza que Cabo Componente fica com melhor imagem?

    • @RetroComparisons
      @RetroComparisons  Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@fqnfinancas3431 I think the VGA output of the Dreamcast is a little cleaner than the Component of the GameCube. Most of these GC games though aren't made to be 480p.

    • @mantrahus
      @mantrahus Před 10 měsíci

      No. Games were not portet, they were emulatet. Skies of Arcadia had bad performance and a graphic clitch on my gamecube. The sky was pink instead of blue. I could not enjoy playing it and sold it. All Dreamcast games are far more better on Dreamcast.

  • @princealbertz
    @princealbertz Před 10 měsíci +3

    Awwwww shit. I miss Dreamcast 1999

  • @sagearcana8873
    @sagearcana8873 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Had episode 1 & 2 plus for GC. The good old days.

  • @RocketZX
    @RocketZX Před 10 měsíci +1

    😂 ikaruga music goes hard, still chills me to my soul

  • @dgm778
    @dgm778 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Dreamcast has a better colour gamut