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- Selected excerpts from the text, "The Cloud of Unknowing" - formatted for meditation/contemplation. A number of translations have been used but most were taken from Carmen Acevedo Butcher's translation.
The Cloud of Unknowing is an anonymous work of Christian mysticism, most likely a Carthusian monk, written in Middle English in the latter half of the 14th century. The text is a spiritual guide on contemplative prayer in the Late Middle Ages. The underlying message of this work suggests that the way to know God is to abandon consideration of God's particular activities and attributes, and be courageous enough to surrender one's mind and ego to the realm of "unknowing", at which point one may begin to glimpse the nature of God.
The Cloud of Unknowing draws on the mystical tradition of Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite and Christian Neoplatonism, which focuses on the via negativa road to discovering God as a pure entity, beyond any capacity of mental conception and so without any definitive image or form.
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I’m 71 years of age and I’ve been walking a spiritual path since the age of 25. With the health problems I’ve had I don’t think I’ll live to a ripe old age so, I asked my Higher Power to immerse me. I want to leave here immersed in God. That is when I came across Samaneri Jayasara’s videos. My prayers have been answered. To listen to these is immersion into your God Self. This is the closest I’ve been to God and I feel I’ve been given a gift. Thank you. I am forever grateful. Love to all.
I'm almost 71...and my story is similar....Peace and Love ❤..( I too, relish the immersion. 🙏🌹❤️ )
"Leave here immersed in god"ah yes it what this heart's carving too.
Me too❤
So very grateful for this
Love never ends
When some people may have healing hands, Others can have healing eyes, you definitely have a healing voice.❤️
I so agree 🙏🙏🙏
So true. Just soothes my heart, heart, and Divinity of soul
Absolutely
I agree big time
Definitly❤
YOU ARE SUCH A GIFT TO THIS WORLD! I spend EVERY DAY with you, Thank you so very much for your heartfelt work and beautiful voice❤
I remember reading this small book almost 60 years back without a clue what was being said.....now I'm melting in the words....so my inner work wasn't pointless after all.
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Inner work is never pointless,as you now understand.for some it's instant, others it takes a lifetime.youare definitely blessed to have found this book so long ago.
Much love to you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Amen
Ahem
Namaskar
Brother John
I see you and hear you well and pray for my own attainment someday.
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@@zanewalsh1812 I have given up the idea of some" thing"called enlightenment. That's marketing. I have a very good sense of living from the heart...so don't care about that stuff anymore. Anyway awareness is ever expanding so no end to it.
@@johnburman966 thank you 🙏🏼
DEAR❤Sister, Yet again you've unearthed God's heavenly timeless treasures. How totally BLESSED we are by your tireless loving efforts. We're like baby chicks happily following and eagerly pecking up the divine crumbs our Blessed Mother Hen keeps dropping..... ever leading us right into the heart of God. T ❤️ Y!! 🕊️
“When we reach the end of what we know... that’s when we find God... peace”. How many of us “know soooo much crap? It’s unending, we are so clever, needing to know, clinging to knowledge that we haven’t earned. This world and all the brainwashing of society, the trappings of achieve this so you can get that and then you’ll be happy... only the ego benefits, while your soul weeps as it continues to wait patiently for you to awaken. As the Zen proverb goes, “You are like this cup - so full of ideas that nothing more will fit in. Come back to me with an empty cup.”🙏🏼💜
At first we are picking it up. Then one day we realize that we must lay it all down. What we carry weights us down. Our burden is LIGHT.
HONEST, I was reading this yesterday and thought-man I wish she would just do a video on it. And BOOM provided. Peace unto you forever.
That was a prayer 🙏
Absolutely stunning.💕 I had a spontaneous awakening experience almost 2 years ago and the internet and places like this🙏🏽☝️ helped me and continue to help as it deepens and I lovingly say goodbye to who I thought I was. The beauty and mystery of reality brings tears to my recently clear vision almost daily. I never dreamed humanity already IS what we all long for so desperately.
If YOU had an experience, it for sure was not an awakening!
@@JH-bf6qydon't get trapped by neo-vedantic semantics. If someone communicates without saying 'I' they will sound a bit odd.
@@JH-bf6qyshe can have a spiritual realisation or deepening. That’s hers. The Lord is for all souls. The lord responds in a covered way with his bhaktas.
I read this many years ago. I realize lately that I’ve read hundreds of the very greatest mystical literature.
Another day and another blessing to have you in my life oh blessed jayasara.
You have enriched my life more than I can communicate to you, please know that.
I am wholeheartedly happy,
Nothing & nowhere.
Thank you for your channel. It is a beautiful contribution to the world, and listening to your voice on a daily basis helps me to cultivate wisdom and faith in my life. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this very beautiful rendition. I read this years ago and had an intuition to go back to it. Every sentence hits the mark for me now. You have helped me find the depth that I was stumbling towards.
"Forget the world". I have been pondering this direction that was given here.
Thank you. I’m truly grateful for finding your channel. It’s helped so much during these challenging times. You have become an integral part of my morning and night meditation sessions. God bless you 🙏
Thankyou so much for this beautiful reading. When I read the comments below I know I am one of many beautiful souls you have drawn together and my heart dances, dances, dances. Love is the very substance of the material. 💞💓🙏
Thank you. What a relief! How wonderful to listen to this simple humility after the intense complexity of dzogchen mahumadra. Wow.😊😊
Crying just crying every cell in my body resonating. Just pure yes yes yes! Thankyou for your blessed work changing life for me in turn changing life for the world ❤
In all my wonderings and wandering s of the heart, I always return to your voice reading scriptures and meditations. It is my solace and still point. Thank you
A short word that has always spoken to me is "yes".
Thank you so much for your beautiful offering to all of us and to the Divine. I so appreciate listening to these amazing spiritual works. You’ve read them with such love tenderness and beauty. I have told many suffering clients about your channel so that they can listen while they’re healing or transitioning. And I so appreciate the spaciousness that you give to the words and the meditations without any commercial breaks to disrupt the space created. May you be very blessed and may all that are listening Be blessed as well.
Thank you.❤ Absorbed this in the morning. Such a life - gift. Your work is a true gift vibrating through words, being silence.❤ Love Kiran
In Humble Gratitude 🙏💕🙏
Gloria in excelsis Deo! ❤️🔥
I think your channel with your voice is all it takes to Truth. It is only second to Silence. 🙏 My deepest gratitude and blessings.
Love Just Love ❤
This instruction changed everything. There is no doubts, You are a blessing to mankind! Gratitude!
You are God sent, your message through your beautiful voice ❤🎉
One of my favorite Christian texts... Thank you 🙏✝️
Beautiful! Just absolutely beautiful. Tears of joy streamed down my face. Thank you so much Samaneri. You are an Angel.
My humble love to you Jayazára is only a fraction of your inmense knowing and grace being shared with all of us. Thank you
As I look within and let all fall away,there is no perfect reflection to be found, I am not looking in at all, but out, I am that truth which binds all things.
Dear Friend, this one, and your reading of The Impersonal Life, this cold, windy new moon afternoon. Both are read so well. Sensitive and touching. I read the books but your spoken word is better! This Cloud of Unknowing..... is a premise thats easy to apply. Till i forget. Again, i forget and want to remember. Again.
So love you blessings to all🦋🕊🌹
Thank you so so much for doing all of this. These truths will be carried on in our hearts for many years to come. Many blessings to you, thank you 🙏
Thank you Again !! God Bless You 💐💐
Omg! I have this book at home! To hear your sweet voice read it is amazing! I don't know if you ever read all the comments, but could you do some readings of some of Rilke's stuff? I adore him & I'd love to hear him read by you.
Thank you for this, very much
Learned about this way of praying many years ago by the Dominicans . Have the book as well. This way of contemplating is so effective, but it takes time. Listen to the Trappist Thomas Merton. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
God bless you and everyone who listens! Thank you from the bottom of my heart! May humanity’s eyes finally open beyond it’s narrow perception of religion and intellect. We are all one ☝️ and everything is now! 🙏
Another fantastic Christian "mystical" book is Anthony DeMello's "The Way to Love."
Love and beauty beyond words. Pure grace. ❤🙏 Thank you for this precious gift.
Beautiful, all I can say is beautiful. You are so uniquely skillfully refined in your narrations a true expression of Divinity.
Another jewel..... speaks of Love. Well, i Love this reading by Anonomyous. Love it.😊
Thank you for this. I was hoping you would eventually do the Cloud. Perhaps for your next reading you could do the "Practice of the Presence of God" by Brother Lawrence.
I love Brother Lawrence
Thank you dear One 🙏🏼❤️
Thank you. I love you in my life.
So happy and grateful for this. Thank you!!!
Pranaam sister. Stay blessed 💞
Thanks you pinned Sameneri Jayasara teaching 🙏💌
As an eternal dancer with Buddha and God I humbly request that some readings of Pema Choden be offered. Thank you
God ❤️
Such gift 🙏 Gratitude and Blessings.
Thank you so much for this gift ❤
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your gift is a blessing to all sentient beings. I cant think of a more noble service to all then this what you are. thank you for everything and every second of your time here with us. and please leave a donation button or a link for us to contribute to your sangha. we love you ❤🌹🌻
I am truly grateful for this thank you ! 🙏
Wow. This is so beautiful. A balm for my soul. Thank you ❤
Love you ❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I need your voice and vibe in my life
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu 🙏
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Thank you! 🙏
This is very helpful thanks
Stunning.
It's very impressive and useful❤.
No way you just posted “Cloud of unknowing”….
God bless you ❤️🔥
Dear Friend, i keep finding these shared jewels. This one..... touches me so deeply. Its a treasure.
Thanks
Holy of Holy's ♨
🙏 ohmmmm Namaste
I know how you feel. Mind can be a tornado, sucking in everything we take ourselves to be.
❤❤❤love you ❤❤❤
This is the first “spiritual” book I read. Set me down a beautiful path
Amen. Alleluia.❤❤❤.
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Samaneri ----- I love your videos. I am wondering who chooses the music? It is so beautiful! Do you speak while the background music is playing? You introduced me to Kabir and I am so grateful. Your voice alone resonates with love and empathy. Thank you so much.
"Love always deserves the peace it earns." How beautiful. This listen was simply stunning for me. Thank you so much.
Wow
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It is interesting that the word UNKNOWING is composed of UN meaning ONE and KNOWING.
Can I listen to this while I am about to sleep. Can't meditate for an hour yet.
Of course! Our meditation is to understand who we are already, what we've always been, and that which you are now. Don't worry about meditation, just rest into your natural state, just as you are. What you essentially are is perfect already. And there's a lovely, and true, expression, "meditation is what we are, not what we do". Much peace (Isn't this recording above wonderful too)
@@nigelconsiglio2546 Thank you so much for this. Meditation is wht we are, not what we do. Actually, one can be meditative in so many states across all functions. Thank you for reminding me of this.
If I could make one suggestion. As I also have not reached the ability to meditate for an hr yet. A useful tool could be to use this for meditation however often you'd like and each time try and go a tiny bit further into it. I have found this technique useful in my workouts. I don't do a certain amount of reps. I don't each exercise for 1 min. Progress is measured by each week being able to do more reps within each minute . Little steps.
@@battlecore501 That's a solid advice too. I definitely will want to get to an hr and more, baby steps is needed for sure. The goal is to keep chipping away at it.
It's not important to meditate for long periods.what is important is to do it effortlessly,more you try the less chance of success.
This advice is offered to you with love only ❤
Good luck on your journey.
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Drear zane , you can't atain what you already have , you can only realise its always
Thank you so much this is exacly what i need at this point. One question. I have memory problems which i been working at but just the statement ---forget everything ---- it's against what i'm trying to accomplish with my mind. "Ignore" maybe sounds better for now?? Thanks thanks thanks ❤
If you empty your mind and forget everything during your times of deep contemplation, you may find that your memory in daily life naturally improves with no great effort on your part. The mind grows bright, energetic and healthy from these times of quietude and "forgetting". 💗✝️
I like emptying...can't use forgetting
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just wonderful
Ok
Sacred and Secret
'To abandon all concepts of God"
Knowing the horrible concepts of God in mainline Christianity in the middle ages and even today no wonder the carageous mystics had to break out of that tomb of concepts and start the search again as an empty vessel. ❤
thank you for providing this beautiful nourishment for mediation. i have a question regarding the content: in the second half of the recording it says: "..the desire to see and feel the Divine, as we can hear. this longing is true love, and love always desevers the peace it wins"....is true love not exclusively searching to please the Beloved and doesnt pay attention to my own desires and needs? is true love not forgetting myself and also mySelf completely and just exist to please the Beloved? this longing seems to be focussed on me and my own needs...🙏
I wonder why she says "dark awareness" ?
You could probably say also "clouded awareness" from god.
But..
"There is only god playing itself"
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The absence of "knowing" .. being incarnate in this 3D reality with a human brain is a limitation.. learning to surrender to this darkness and trusting with your heart rather than your intellect. I am a slave to intellect and ego. This is the cloud. Focusing on awareness and ignoring my thoughts is the only remedy.
" Mysticism itself, by its very nature, is a contradiction, because it is not an ism. It is not a creed or dogma in which you can believe. You can be a mystic, but there is nothing like mysticism. And when one is a mystic the paradox deepens, it does not disappear. When one is a mystic there is no one left. There is a mystery, but with no center to it. It is like a cloud: translucent darkness, infinite darkness.
One of the most important statements about mysticism in the Western hemisphere is the book called The Cloud of Unknowing. The name of the author is not known; it is good that we don’t know who wrote it. It indicates one thing: that before he wrote it he had disappeared into a cloud of unknowing. It is the only book in the Western world which comes close to the Upanishads, The Tao Te Ching, The Dhammapada. There is a rare insight in it.
First he calls it a cloud. A cloud is vague, with no definable limits. It is constantly changing; it is not static - never, even for two consecutive moments, is it the same. It is a flux, it is pure change. And there is nothing substantial in it. If you hold it in your hand just mist will be left, nothing else. Maybe your hands will become wet, but you will not find any cloud in your fist.
That’s what happens to the mystic: he becomes wet, really wet. Those countries where alcohol is prohibited they call dry, and those countries where alcohol is not prohibited they call wet. But the only wet person is the mystic. He is a real alcoholic! He cannot be helped by Alcoholics Anonymous. If a mystic enters there, they will all become alcoholics themselves!
But for Dionysius it is even more a contradiction because he was a theologian. His whole book is written with a disguise, as if it is a treatise on theology; mysticism is just something by the side, secondary, not primary. Hence the name Theologia Mystica - as if mysticism is only a consequence of getting deep into the world of theology. Just the reverse is the case.
The word “theology” means logic about God; theo means God. But there can be no logic about God. There is love about God, love for God, but no logic about God. There are no proofs possible. The only proof is the existence of the mystic. The presence of Dionysius, of Ramakrishna, of Bahauddin - the presence of these people is the proof that God exists, otherwise there is no proof. Because Buddhas have walked on the earth, there are a few footprints of God left behind on the shores of time.
Philosophers have argued for centuries, but all their arguments are utterly futile and impotent; they have not come to a single conclusion.
The mystic has to speak in contradictions because he is speaking about the whole, and the whole contains the contradictions. It contains the day and the night, both. If you call God the day, then it is only half the truth; if you call him the night, that too is only half the truth.
Hence Dionysius calls God translucent darkness - as if the sun has risen in the night.
The whole consists of both life and death. If you call God life, only life, then it is a half-statement. And remember a half-truth is far more dangerous than a complete lie because the complete lie is bound to be discovered sooner or later - just a little intelligence is needed. But the half-truth is very dangerous; even intelligent people, very intelligent people, may not be able to find that it is untrue. That is the danger of half-truths: they look like truths and they are not. They can keep you deceived for centuries.
Mysticism is the whole truth; it has to be contradictory. Somewhere logic and love have to meet, because they both exist. Hence Theologia Mystica. Somewhere man and woman have to meet and merge and disappear into each other because they both exist and they are both halves of one whole. Hence the beauty and the bliss of a real meeting between a man and a woman: the orgasmic joy is possible only because two halves of a single whole have come together. Both were suffering, both were missing something. Suddenly, all that feeling of missing has disappeared. Of course, the meeting between a man and a woman can only be momentary. Again they are separate, and again the misery sets in, and again the desire to be united. Because the meeting is physical it cannot be very deep and it cannot be lasting either.
But the meeting of the mystic with the whole is absolute; there is no coming back. He has gone beyond the point of no return. He has dissolved himself like a dew-drop slipping out of the lotus leaf into the lake. He has become the lake. Then whatsoever he says will be contradictory, because a part of it will be the vision of the dew-drop and a part of it will be the vision of the total lake, a part will be the standpoint of the part and a part will be the standpoint of the whole. Hence all mystics have spoken in contradictory terms.
This is one of the reasons why intellectuals are against them, because the intellectual demands consistency and the mystics cannot be consistent. By the very nature of things that is not possible. He is helpless - he has to be contradictory. He has to say, “I am contradictory because I am vast enough to contain contradictions.”
Logic is a small thing, love is infinity."
Perfectly spoken 🙏
Wow Yes….Makes perfect Sense to me Thank you 💕👉🏻🫶🏻
Metta