Is this Mysterious Wall in New Zealand really 2000 years old? | The Kaimanawa Wall
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- In this episode of History or Mystery I take a look at the the mysterious Kaimanawa Wall in the Kaimanawa Ranges of New Zealand and pose the question is it really 2000 years old, and is it natural or man-made?
What do you think?
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I had a look at it the other day and I wasn't convinced either way. The thing that annoys me is that it could be put to rest by excavating it, but it hasn't.
Exactly.. that is the shit of it right there... I wish I was rich I would pay to have that done but it's probably not about that but other reasons that the public just isn't aware of.
@@Pyramid1974 the problem is DOC and in particular Iwi won't allow it. If it was allowed, finding the resources to do it would not be a problem
@@harrywhite7639 I heard a document was being held until 2063 then it will be released to the public
If that is a man made wall there is more evidence to support it being constructed by maori.
It's very simple, bring in a excavator dig out in front of the wall see what's down there, we already know the rest off it is natural, if there's nothing down there then case solved. It would also be interesting to lift the blocks up and see if they are all truly unattached blocks, this all could be solved in a day. It's this typical kiwi reluctance to do anything that fuels conspiracies. Any other country would have already done this
Yes that's exactly what I would like to see, as if it's a natural formation, then there's no sacred significance to the Maori in their ancestors burial grounds being interfered with, so it should be just like a quarry or mine site excavation 🤗
Ryan you give a logo to who agrees with you. You are not very convincing!!!!
All been blocked till 2063 by government and ????
@@gregfisher5223 let's do it anyway. 😁
What’s underneath the font part of the wall? Any further digs there ?
Hey I don’t believe it’s been excavated but they have done ground sonar and the results were inconclusive...
@@RyanWolfNZ there’s what looks like stairs that slope as is there’s a flap top triangle shaped structure underneath the dirt, not underneath the front part of the wall, behind those rocks are just more cut, edged rocks behind with the same gaps, except for one rock that got pushed apart from another rock leaving behind a part of the rock that was cut perfectly for the other rock to rest on now visible
@@zealantis interesting, I’ll have to check that out next time I head back there, cheers
Absolutly man made, even if you look carefully you can see horizontal scraps on rock surface.
3:13 that statement is incorrect, a sample of the stone was tested at an Auckland laboratory, analysis confirm the rock is rhyolite which does not naturally occur on the eastern side of lake Taupo, actually, the nearest natural occurrence of rhyolite is 16 kilometres from the stone
Wow that's key info
If it's a natural formation then surely there must be other examples of similar formations that we can compare it to. I do know that there are sites all over the world with structures similar to this and they are of extreme antiquity and they are artificial.
Exactly DOC and others keep saying how common this type of thing is naturally, but yet they don't seem to be able to produce any pictures of any that look remotely like this, it's all very well to claim they are very common naturally but if that can't be backed up with evidence it means nothing.
If natural rocks like this are common it should be easy to find similar examples.
the road to get there has been taken off google maps
The location for the wall on Google Maps is slightly incorrect. If you switch to Satellite View you want to follow “Clements Mill Rd” for about 10-20mins. You can’t miss the site, it’s on the left 👍
@@RyanWolfNZ yeah i figured but what gets me is that the road was on the map last year clements mill road was marked as going straight through now its marked as ending way before the site
kyle woods interesting, can’t explain that one...I did notice it’s a weird road sign, like not a normal one. Perhaps it’s not actually a normal public road?
Nicely done.
I live on Dartmoor in the UK, and you see lots of similar structures like these, perfectly natural granite outcrops
Have you examined and compared the textures and grain formation in the rocks on either side of the seams? because if you did like me, you can clearly see that they are trying to cover the fact that these rocks are from different formations, and the internal structure of each slab isn't matching with its neighbour, so what does that mean? well it's not rocket surgery to see that can't possibly have happened naturally, like trying to say that a wooden table was just grown like this, even though the wood type is from more than one tree ??
Well there needs to be more megalithic stonework . Can't just build 1 thing if they were good at it
Hi Rye. I remember coming across an article possibly by RNZ online about large bones being found in Raglan and the dna had tracings connecting to several other celtic findings of large bones of people who had red hair all over the world. The find in Raglan was also controversial because it had been attempted to be covered up by several Maori academics because the meaning of the find would also mean Maori were not the first to the land. Chuck Missler, an American military servicemen who was based in Reporoa and LA Marzulli based in Oklahoma currently are two of my fav academics pm the celtic genome and other finds of gigantic bone structures and stonehenge. In fact LA has just released a new dvd on a controversial stonehenge in Ohio. I live in Auckland and you're welcome to contact me to meet up in person if you'd like to chat more.
Malcolm Turner thanks for the comment. Certainly some interesting mystery worth checking out. I may get in touch if I need info on future videos, cheers!
@@RyanWolfNZ the cave in raglan that held the bones and huge skull was found in the 70s and the entrance blown up, I grew up out there and we even had megalithic structures on our farm that are still there to this day
other bones also have been found of giants and also what are referred to as fairy people. There sre structures and cover ups from all over new zealand
why tf ce? do you have the 10th edition of new speak? iv'e only got the 8th
Times are changing, BCE & CE seem to be more commonly accepted now - love it or hate it..
@@RyanWolfNZ i pity you, i can't think of anything else to say.. spoze i'm learning mandarin but that has some logic behind it.. you just bending to show your willing to bend.. nothing gained..
Would have been good if you had gone to the one with carving on it.
Ratahi Walker I must have missed that one. Will have to check it out on a future visit.
It's not really a carving. I have been there multiple times
This wall is different to the kaiangaora carvings, both dam good topics, pity they don't dig etc but tribal kybosh sux
@@hethn13 people do dig, DOC fills in their trenches
@@harrywhite7639 an official dig has never been done, it would undo to much history
Isn't it sad that, in order to be broadcast, Ryan has to say it is not man made. we don't breath air, or eat food either. Ridiculous. "It just so happens". "It is pure coincidence". Insulting peoples intelligence is also unpalatable.
Interesting one... looks like the man made Machu Picchu walls in Peru but also bears some comparative resemblance to The Giant’s Causeway in Ireland, which is a natural columnar rock formation created by volcanic activity. More research required.
No it doesn't in Peru the walls interlock fast superior to this
Apparently there is a Stonehenge type structure in Fiordland. Was watching a documentary years ago about a guy who's plane crashed in the 70's or 80's and was lost in Fiordland for about 3 weeks. He mentioned in the doucumentry that he saw a Stonehenge 🤯. Might be worth looking into.
J.E.S Adventures sounds intriguing, cheers!
I'm trying to track down what this doco might be as it sounds interesting.
Can you think of anymore info as Google is throwing up no leads
Matt McNelis I had a look and couldn’t find much either, let me know if you do 👌
@@pickle_a_day_keeps_the_dr_away sorry Matt I can't remember, was maybe 10 years ago.
I have also been searching Google and CZcams trying to find it. I have tried searching plane / helicopter crashes in Fiordland / Milford sound areas, missing man found Fiordland / Milford sound, man lost in fiorland / Milford sound. Been searching between 1960-1989, I even tried looking up episodes of "I shouldn't be alive" all with no luck. There's got to be some documentation about it atleast. I tried to do an archives search but I don't really know where to start. I live in Melbourne now so I am limited to online only searches. I know it was published in a newspaper as they showed old newspaper clippings in the doucumentry. The documentary was the story of this man and how he survived while lost ECT. He spoke about how vast the area is and that you would never be able to find the same place twice, that there were a lot of huge wild sheep and that he saw a Stonehenge (that's what grabbed my attention) when he was found he had stumbled across a river that was in a clearing and that's where he was when the search helicopter found him.
Sorry I can't supply any useful information but that's all iv got.
The only Stonehenge in the Pacific is in Tongatapu Island 40 tons each stone in Heketa old Tongan Capital once Tongan Empire Ha'amonga a Maui the Navigators also built Ahu o Tongaliki Moai Tiki in 'Ata known as Easter Island 🗿 🙏
90% not natural
Tongan Empire Ahu o Tongaliki Moai Tiki Langi o Tuitonga Pyramid wall Pulemelei Siaheulupe Mound Talietumu Fortress Haamonga a Maui Stonehenge Oldest tatau kit found in the Ancient Fortress Village of Pea in Tongatapu 2700 years old 700BC🤔
there are 2 known pyramids down south and a while back a wooden carved idol was found in one that resembles nothing known to maori. this idol is now in a museum.
Locked away forever
Where can I find this on Google maps?
@@harrywhite7639 otaki basaltic prisms
@@courtneycross8593 its not showing anything
@@harrywhite7639 I just typed in “the pyramid otago Dunedin” it took me there
Nice, you forgot to mention the interlocking segments 1 stone down. It's old so most of its been covered, just like all the other good old stuff. Logic prevails.
Cheers, didn’t see that!
@@RyanWolfNZ I live in NZ, not 2hrs from this video.
Digging into this site would rewrite history for this country, and the "natives" would not get the "entitlement" they are getting.
@@hethn13 are you familiar with the documentary series_*Skeletons in the Cupboard,*_ ? I believe it is the Waitaha peoples who still exist and claim true indigenous status, and lived in NZ for a thousand years (more or less) before the Maori who showed up about 500 years ago. It is sad what is happening and I understand the government knows they are lying, and gladly do so for political and cultural reasons.
@@hethn13 Maori people generally get fuck all from Treaty of Waitangi settlements!! The settlements are political and if you really believe that Maori weren't the first Human beings to set foot in this country then you're allowed but you can't call that factual without peer-reviewed by world experts in different fields to do with this subject & solid evidence 😜
@@hethn13 digging into it wouldn't do anything but strengthen maori claim to the land. Archeologists carbondate Maori arrival at 1200AD because they don't have earlier evidence of human settlement. Not because that's when the first maori came to Nz. So if that wall is man made then it's evidence of earlier human settlement and has more evidence to support it being constructed by maori. But it would also imply scientists, archeologist, and historians got it wrong and would need to rewrite the history books.
This is part of ancient Lemuria and the Mu civilisation
Who is that lol
@@jmjm1920 there is research on it you just have to look deeper past all the bs coverups
@@ivymeganmedicinewoman One of the oldest Capital of Tonga called Mu'a may be related they say Pacific was settled 3000 years ago but Ahu o Tongaliki Moai Tiki Ha'amonga a Maui Stonehenge Langis pyramid could be older🤔🙏🙏
Yeah right. I can confirm this.
It wasn't easy, but at the end we managed it to build this structure exactly where the local magnetic beams are...
Kaimanawa Wall all info to Deborah Russell MP New Lynn please
Waste of time, sorry
So it accidentally points True North?
Pre-maori is a ridiculous word. Historians and scientists place maori arrival at 1200AD. Because scientists and historians don't have evidence of earlier human settlement. If that wall is man made then that's evidence of earlier human settlement and it was more likely constructed by ancient Maori I can definitely say with 100% certainty it wasn't the Celtics.
Barry Barilsford got Iwi, TV3 and governments involved 2013, no one wants to exploit $Billions of Tourism opportunities , NZ is backward
Has a map of the complete amount of stone on the site ever been made? - all we see in videos about it is the same 4 square meters and then we get told that there is "more stones behind it". First investigage the facts of it all, map it, and then make theories.
it was investigated by geologists and archeologists. natural feature.
They were told to come to that conclusion.. That's why they put an embargo on it until 2063
there is no such embargo. you got the wrong forest and that embargo was lifted soon after it started.
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