The New PREMIER Dueling Hand Canon - Sightline Survey
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- The new Echoes episode includes new craftable weapons like the Sightline Survey. Could this be the new premier dueling legendary hand cannon in Destiny 2 The Final Shape? Here's my full crafting guide and weapon review.
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“To the pain” BETTER be a princess bride nod 😤
I believe it is from what I remember seeing
Of course it is
"Give me the key"
"I have no key"
"Fezzig.....tear his arms off" 😂
@@axe2grind244ohh you mean THIS key
I'm skeptical about any 180 in an environment where nobody misses headshots. The remaining PvP population is small and experienced. TTK matters a lot more these days after HP changes.
Good point
When I first saw this weapon my thought was “we have sunshot at home”
Love the sound design on this thing! Have been using it with Strategist/Voltshot in my Hazardous Propulsion build and it feels so crispy when I load a rocket with a headshot
Great review. When I saw fragile focus and desperate measures on this thing, I remember thinking it would be a 3-tap monster. Didn't think precision instrument could do the same thing.
One thing to note about PvE is that the vex fluid pools it spawns are an added bonus to add clear, and something like strategist with voltshot can get you huge chunks of class ability energy instantly if your build leans into spamming that. Air trigger also gives some nasty reload speed for simply hopping, which is W for voltshot cuz it's basically outlaw without needing crits.
devour, arc soul, fire soul, and restoration all between your grenade and class ability is WILD
Played with and against you today using that weapon. Gonna have to try it once I get all 5 to craft
Keep away feels like Killing Wind but all the time kinda. It’s wild
The snipes were indeed crispy, thanks for the info TV.
I like how you pointed out what makes this weapon unique.
Cant wait to craft this gun tomorrow with keep away and precision instrument. Havent used a 180 in crucible since malfeasance and really trying to get back into them instead of the constant 140 rotation.
I’m looking forward to trying this out. I have a Frontier’s Cry from IB with Iron Reach, 82 range on a 180 is pretty diabolical. The stability is very low for a 180 but because of the recoil pattern of 180’s, it’s not really a problem. I think keep away on this new one makes it interesting
I drop out for one season and we're dueling with 180s. What happened during season of the wish?
Nothing. TV tends to hype up 180s a lot despite the lack of impact they make. This one with precision instrument can 3tap lower resil guardians, but almost everyone in the crucible runs 7-10 resil, so it's not actually that useful. If resil is removed fron pvp or it suddenly becomes meta to run no resil, then this is worth looking at, but until then, I'd probably stick to the classics.
180s 3 taps 10 resil on 2 stacks of prec instrument lol
@@Hazelomg yes, but that's assuming 2 stacks are active for all 3 shots. Each stack only lasts about 1.5 seconds, so you aren't going into your gunfights with 2 stacks alreasy, you're going in at 0. Then after your first shot, which does standard damage, you get 1, so your second shot gets 1 stack's worth of bonus damage, then adds the second stack, and your third shot deals 2 stack's worth of damage. All in all, only enough to 3tap people with like 5 resil. If you can immediately swap to another target, you can 3tap them, but if that's the case, they probably weren't paying attention to you and you were probably winning that fight anyway.
@@DJayPhresh youd be suprised how often prec works in 6v6s lol
@@Hazelomgit’s trash. Just use a 140 or 120.
Thanks for posting this - I’ve kept some sunset Trust hc’s for raw dueling (opening shot + rapid hit) and some for pve/pvp fun (rampage + dragonfly)
I really enjoy survivors epitaph with rapid hit as well, and am always on the lookout for a 180 hc that can punch out of its weight class.
I’m going to craft one of these as well.
1:45 You just hit a clean ass shot good shit on that.
I saw your video..
I crafted it
So satisfying ❤ thx 😅
I do love 180's I got this crafted at the start of the episode/season. I did mine with to the pain and PI
Hey TV - for a little retro fun i forgot i had "the" old Kindled Orchid with killclip / rampage, and with the inherent Drop Mag it's.....pretty dang fun.
That was one of the few sunsetted weapons I kept too! Been using it lots! Great gun
I'm actually planning on grabbing this for Momentum. 180s slay out in that mode.
The adept Word of crota does the same thing but better and with insane range
I wasn't wanting to craft this HC since I already have posterity with frenzy and volt shot but I didn't think about pvp, although I don't play pvp anymore except team scorched or mayhem but still might be worth a shot
It's so good! I used it in comp placement and won 5 of 7 games. I crafted it with kc.
With PI enhanced im pretty sure i noticed the third shot goes up by 1 damage dont remember if it went from 77 to 78 or 78 to 79 but it does push that resilience threshold up by a whole tier
this is what i was trying to tell you with the boudica vs lonesome some guns just feel better, thats why i dont go off of stats, also a lot of us dont raid so ill be making a voltshot one too.
Yo congratulations on 300 K TV .
Think youre gonna do a review of the scout? Im lovin it personally
I'll add this to the list of things to chase!!!
If the 3 tap was actually consistent with precision instrument most hunters would start running T6 Resil to counter it
If you’re telling me 180s are back I might have to finally turn this game back on and revisit my OG Trust.
Sorry bro, 180s aren't back lol.
I think this 180 is unique but I think you’d struggle against decent players with Trust bro.
180s with precision instrument work nothing else
180s that can 3 tap are back. That probably isn’t gonna include your OG trust. Just play the new episode content and craft this one instead lol
@@strife6763 Survivor’s Epitaph with kill clip is nasty. It’s been my secret baby for years and no one can challenge after you get a kill. Zero recoil too
I love the perks and how fun it is to use, but I can't help but compare it to Frontier's cry, which has insane base range and a origin trait that is great for kill chaining, and naturally comes out more often with 180 ttks being slower. The thing that stops this for me is high resilience guardians in trials, but it's a swap to I can use if the enemies all have low resil
I’m considering “to the pain” & “precision instrument” alongside my rain of fire exotic boots. I have a fusion with discord as well, to really help with kill chaining!
What sniper were u using True Vanguard
So enhanced precision instrument can 3 tap 5 resil or is it 6?
Don’t underestimate Fragile Focus / Encore
encore is the smelliest pile of dog shit but fragile focus is kinda decent yeah
Thank you fellow Gardian. 🍻
Insane that you dont tell us what the resil check is, just the total HP. Now i gotta look up the updated resil hp chart
It's 5 resilience.
Malfeasance is still my go to. May not be as good, but the guaranteed kill due to the explosion is noice. It also melts supers.
Voltshot and strategist is OP and fun as hell in pve, get your class back in like 10 seconds
Didnt test it yet but D2.foundry says with the Enhanced Precision Instrument you are able to 3Tap 10Resil Guardians if you have 1 Stack before engaging. Plus Precision Instrument also kinda works like Headseeker in a way. You only need to deal damage to the opponent, precision damage is no longer required for a Stack. So as long as you dont miss a shot and lose your Stacks, you have a perk that also helps you keeping your TTK low even if you hit a Bodyshot in between.
Would you say that this is any better than Word Of Crota or they're the same? I've been enjoying that HC for a bit now and feels amazing
I was thinking the same thing
Now we need a craftable solar 180 to round it out
Way better than crota that thing is trash worst sights and recoil.
@@fuhkyu8146Or a Stasis one with an origin trait. Or any Strand one. Or a kinetic in the last 4 years...
Is this weapon based on the blade runner blaster? the name and the lore tab title seem to refference that, also its kinda similar
I recommend Fragile/Opening Shot combo if you’re on controller. The range is spectacular.
Try keep away precision instrument. 3 tap monster
@@jpolimus fragile precision instrument is also solid and can 3 tap
That Nova bomb had its own controller
Everyone is sleeping on Frontier's Cry. The best 180!!!
Bern using this pretty much all day with Bakris in IB, it feels niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice lol
I notice when it comes to 180s nobody ever talks about the chode aka Frontiers Cry (iron banner hand cannon) its like 2nd or 3rd in stats and a really good perk pool...NOBODY talks about it
Nobody wanted to follow CoolGuy's murder of Frontier.
GGs tv matched against you twice this morning, you’re sick with that void melee 😄
Also seeing me get quick scoped with your barrel in the sky around 7:51 got me feeling a way 😂
So what is the resilence check? 9 or 10? I'm going to keep that in mind when one of these pops up in my lobby. A .67 TTK is crazy. That's as fast as heliocentric.
Enlightened and volt feels so good, especially with an arc loader mod.
I love this gun. It feels amazing.
This cannon has everything, the perks, the look, and the best gunshot sound
What sniper is this
Bakris and prismatic make this thing crazy good
whats that sniper ?
For the better part of this video the same Hunter was getting slayed over and over lol
Are we gonna see a new Breachlight review TV?
This weapon is killing Hunters. Today it is very hard, perhaps impossible to have high mob res and rec on a Hunter. Some choose to have 10 mob and 10 rec with low res.
Precision instrument is only resilience gated if it's not enhanced.
Great review. I am still however crafting a pve roll because this is probably the best handcannon in my opinion for voltshot, even better than posterity because of enlightened action. On posterity you really have no reload perks other than frenzy which has to be active.. When you initiate combat and get that first kill and now you wanna reload for voltshot, frenzy isnt active during the initial engagement and I hate the reload speed at the start of any engagement.
word of crota does the exact same thing with precision instrument, no? It has better base stats in every category except 3 points of range.
So I wouldn't say that this is the only 180rpm handcannon that can do this.
Hopefully they bring more hand cannons in Luna howl family
I finally got my hands on a Luna’s too lol
Rip my boy rodonkulus
I was fighting a dude called Thunder and GODDAMM, that MF didin't miss a single headshot with this handcannon... might give it a try.
Also, love your vids bud. ❤👍
I love this lil guy, it's good in pve too
So the resilience check is at 8 resilience?
It can three tap **5 resilience** and below guardians with enhanced precision instrument.
@@charlesabuah2331 thanks
4:28 tv this snipe was nasty wtf 😭
Absolutely disgusting! That hunter smashed his controller in rage!
Nah you’re crazy. It’s currently best in slot for voltshot pve with overload, artifact perks directly buffing it, and extra damage to vex. Nation of beasts has been vaulted.
How do I get this gun
Seasonal activity
What is the sniper TV is using?
Raid sniper from Salvation
The one from Salvation's Edge
Raid sniper of salvations edge "Critcal Anomaly"
Shooty McGunFace
I love hand cannons, so I’ll be crafting both PVE & PVP, just cuz.
Missed opportunity for some Yu-Gi-Oh duel memes lol
No comparison to Word of Crota, the only other 180 that can get Precision Instrument? Beats this one in every stat line other than a 3 range delta.
Crota has way worse recoil, sights, and visual noise.
Also keep away is everything
@@Tehkneekz Okay but he still should have mentioned it since the whole video is about Precision Instrument and literally no other 180 can get it.
@@ogLenas he also said its not good in pve which is a criminal statement
5:12 71+74+78 is not 225 it is only 223
I don’t care what perks are on the gun I’m using it because I like how it sounds it’s as simple as that
Beat 180 in the game imo and I’m a big handcannon user of all RPMs.
Bungie needs to scrap 180’s lol
And that. That is the review. 😂
Was waiting for this video, fellow 180 enjoyer, let’s see what you got to say!
#Posterity 💙
that Malevolent Gato guy u killed at 6:22 is one of my clanmates😂
I love loading into a match and half the lobby is not rendered in.....
2:50 so we’re playing against bots. Alriiiiiiiiiiight
I was hoping youd keep this one under wraps, its a monster and i havent seen very many people using it all.
Comparing this as a voltshot weapon to the raid bow is like apples to oranges - a huge part of the player base will never be able to acquire the raid bow, where this is easily accesible
I mean, that’s why I included other Voltshot options on that list and not just the bow.
@@TrueVanguardso far from what I have seen you a good destiny content maker. There will be times when you will get statements such as the one you have replied to, you will have to forgive them for their ignorance. It doesn’t know any better
i'm still gonna use it in pve because brigand's law is ass and i don't like to swap weapons between characters and i only have one voltshot indebted kindness, strategist + volt is just really nice. plus these echoes weapons have great sfx and design
Brigands law clears this thing all day every day in pve what the hell are you talking about
I absolutely love the weapon model
Can 180 scouts with enhanced precision instrument 3 tap?
No wonder I was getting 3 tapped by this thing at 70 resil! Bullshit
They can't 3 tap 7 resil. 5 resil and below. They might have had radiant or another weapon buff
180’s need to be lightweight and have better airborne to be relevant
It's absolute blasphemy that you didn't give the craftable Nation of Beast with eddy current and volt shot as a PvE alternative.
Eddy current is ass
@Zurrke with how easy it is to get amplified on prismatic and voltshot's whole thing is reloading constantly plus it was buffed to require less time running when not amplified it's the perfect pairing and it is by far the biggest reload buffing perk on the gun
@@navynukehenson amplified already increases reload and handling. Eddy current is garbage, you should def be using keep away or dragonfly on it instead.
@Zurrke dragonfly is overkill with voltshot already killing everything and it only gives you 5 reload speed, keepaway does nothing if something is close and only gives 35 reload speed. Eddy current gives 60 reload speed and handling and an animation speed multiplier and is always active if amplified or running
I would if people didn't start encounters before i could grab the samples in Breach.....
seriously WHY DO 'JOIN FIRETEAM' ON EVERY ENCOUNTER BUNGIE?!
I am Alpharius.
Lol no way I'm getting blasted by ace, thorn and rose or autos
3 taps of the guardians have low resilience. I’m guessing it’s 5 or less? Someone confirm please
Why would anyone choose this over the nation of beasts for pvp or pve, nation does the same things but better.
Craft this if you play on a controller.
are you not good enough on mnk to land shots with 180's? Seems like a self burn to me.
@@TrueVanguard They feel like shit. Thats it they do not feel good due to the recoil pattern.
How can I get lobby with bots like these enemys?😂
My good hopefully this thing doesn't catch on for controller players on consoles to much otherwise we could get to a original Lunas Howl situation quickly at some point and the Lunas Howl meta was my personal most hated meta in PvP of all times it just always was way way to easy to hit 3 consecutive headshots with 180 handcannons on controller that is why those weapons should not be able to 3tap without requiring a kill before and that is why Lunas Howl was so obnoxiously broken Op on consoles for such a long time before Bungie nerfed it.
I dont NEED to craft it at all
Word of crota did it first.
Shouldve been a 140
Boooring
Any time this dude pops up on my feed, i remember he's a controller main and none of this applies to me.
Lol so in other words, "this gun sucks"