I have been watching so many videos with Chris in them lately and I appreciate learning and understanding the differences (in headphones line). this is probably the best video I've seen in this regard. Thanks!
@@eLcHiNoChannel that is a great question because Tou start to get into the “law of diminishing returns” meaning the jump and value that the XC have for 1300 USD going to 2,000 dollar headphones only gets different and not really better. In the Audeze line up of headphones unfortunately yeah you gotta go flagship like an LCD 4, LCD i4 and of course the 5. Grabbing the LCD 3 wouldn’t be leaps and bounds better than the XC. If you don’t mind. Tell me your tuning preferences and with in the Audeze line up of headphones I’d be able to tell you your best bet. :)
@@Nephilim-81 Thank you, of course. For context, I listen to music through a streamer connected via optical to a Shiit Bifrost 2/64, Shiit Lokious, Burson Soloists 3XP (balanced), to my LCD-XCs. I also have Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X and Sennheiser IE 600. I bypass the Lokius with both the DT 700 Pro X and the IE 600. I add a little sub bass and bass to the LCD-XCs for warmth and body. I enjoy the detail and space in music. I hope that helps paint a picture of my overall preference. Thanks in advance.
@@eLcHiNoChannel the LCD 5 would give you that good sense of space and detail because the mid range is so refined and prominent. The LCD 4 is warmer with deeper lower end. Either way you can’t lose. Just depends on taste.
@@Nephilim-81 Great, thank you. This is the nod in the right direction I needed. I appreciate the advice. Looks like LCD-4z might be the winner for me.
Same here... Love them! But I can't shake the feeling I am missing something I would only find with open backs. Wondering what Audeze headphone would be the natural upgrade.
@@eLcHiNoChannel oh you are right. Open back driver, and a quality one at that, is a different animal. The spatial presentation and realism is more apparent with open backs. ;)
@@Nephilim-81 Thank you. Now I "must" find my end-game open backs. Let the endless hours of you tube reviews begin lol. I'd appreciate any recommendations.
@@eLcHiNoChannel it is not necessarily an end game. It is just appreciating a different sonic presentation. Enjoy the hunt. I have both open and closed back headphones. I love the differences. :)
Had the lcd2 prefazor, lcd3 prefazor and even an lcdx prefazor and now the lcd24. Wow is this headphone amazing. I really like how he talks about the presentation of the 24 being unique because it 100% is.
Perhaps you should to a video informing folks about the latest 2021 revisions and pad changes to the lcd lineup including the lcd x and the benefits these revisions bring. I had heard through headfi this was in response to your testing and measuring via a specific microphone? And perhaps you guys found a better way to make the drivers without as much as much variation? Thanks!
Just got the LCDX 2021 …aaaand you need a Schiit Lokius EQ if you don’t do computer audio . And for those who say you don’t need it ..AUDEZE has EQ patches for Roon ……..
My goal is to buy, own a pair of LCD-2 OR LCD-X so fingers crossed 🤞 love the LCD-X So definitely leaning that way. Be a birthday present to me hahaha 😉🤣
Hi, you said that the 4z is an upgrade to the mx4 in terms of detail retrieval and resolution but you didn't talk about the tuning of the 4z! Since the mx4 has this more neutral flatter frequency response and tuning it seems like a great tool for mixing music or producing. But does the 4z features the same flat/neutral tuning too (but with better drivers) or the more audiophile tuning of the LCD-4 ? If thats so why is it in the reference series. Thanks for clarifying!
An LCD 4 in a magnesium housing that has the same impedance sensitivity and weight etc of the original LCD 4 but in a magnesium housing would be legendary I would take that and buy that because I'm not a fan of wood because the fear of cracking in the later years I hope someday you'll make that happen and put it on your website please that would be awesome and my new end game gaming headphones especially for the horror genre😉😉😉
Why is that 4z different than mine? I looks to have a larger weave and copper color instead of gold. Is this the 2nd generation model? Are they sonically identical?
Great video! First time in your channel. Wich headphone amp do you recommend to use with the LCD-MX4? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning Have a Productive and Healthy day!
let's add more life to it more colours more art. let's show what happens when top class tech meets with top class art Collab?? people get bored of normal let's give them something crazy 👌
All of our headphones will work great, it depends on your budget and use case. For professional use, the reference like here is a good choice for accuracy. For enjoyment the origins line might be a good choice, stay tuned for more on that...
You seem to have discontinued the LCD-1. Does that mean the line for producers now starts with the LCD-X, or are you going to introduce a new set in the $400 area (or maybe $400-700)?
Is the only difference between the LCD-4 and LCD-4z that its easier to drive? It sounds like its an easy to drive LCD-4 but i would expect a different frequency response as it is tailored for studio use
Both are engineered to sound the same, but it depends on how your amplifier interacts with the different impedances of each model. Also, since they're made of different materials, that does have a small effect on overall sound signature (but not really enough to measure).
Which DAC and HP amp would you recommend for LCDX for pro mixing and mastering? I’m looking potentially into SPL XE ( or SE )+ DAC or maybe SPL Mercury...Any alternatives? Would that make a huge difference when compared to the HP out of my UAD Apollo X? Thank you
I just don’t get it… all of Audeze HPs lack upper midrange quite noticeably, yet still they are presented like “reference” for production and “speaker-like”. Don’t get me wrong I owned 3 pairs of Audeze headphones (now having only lcd-x) and love them a lot, it’s just strange. Can someone enlighten me?
Chris says: Everyone hears differently, so there are always different flavors of "neutral." You should try the MM-500, MM-100, LCD-5 and CRBN headphones, all of which have a more pronounced upper-midrange. We're due for a new version of this video!
LCD-2s are definitely not obsolete, we still make them and sell quite a lot. They're in the Origins Line video here: czcams.com/video/ScIrKCU7CD0/video.html
LCD-X is totally different HP from LCD-X. You have to be careful which one you're going to buy. LCD-X are better than LCD-X ,remember it! LCD-X with 6 fazor or 8 fazor, choice is simple. Isn't it? 🤔
Good news! There's now an updated version of this video here: czcams.com/video/oi7yFxcP4b8/video.html
I have been watching so many videos with Chris in them lately and I appreciate learning and understanding the differences (in headphones line). this is probably the best video I've seen in this regard. Thanks!
LCD XC is a beaut! Incredible closed back. One of the best around still after 6 years since it’s birth!
Where would you go from the LCD-XC? MX4, 4z, or all the way to 5?
@@eLcHiNoChannel that is a great question because Tou start to get into the “law of diminishing returns” meaning the jump and value that the XC have for 1300 USD going to 2,000 dollar headphones only gets different and not really better.
In the Audeze line up of headphones unfortunately yeah you gotta go flagship like an LCD 4, LCD i4 and of course the 5. Grabbing the LCD 3 wouldn’t be leaps and bounds better than the XC.
If you don’t mind. Tell me your tuning preferences and with in the Audeze line up of headphones I’d be able to tell you your best bet. :)
@@Nephilim-81 Thank you, of course. For context, I listen to music through a streamer connected via optical to a Shiit Bifrost 2/64, Shiit Lokious, Burson Soloists 3XP (balanced), to my LCD-XCs. I also have Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X and Sennheiser IE 600. I bypass the Lokius with both the DT 700 Pro X and the IE 600. I add a little sub bass and bass to the LCD-XCs for warmth and body. I enjoy the detail and space in music. I hope that helps paint a picture of my overall preference. Thanks in advance.
@@eLcHiNoChannel the LCD 5 would give you that good sense of space and detail because the mid range is so refined and prominent. The LCD 4 is warmer with deeper lower end. Either way you can’t lose. Just depends on taste.
@@Nephilim-81 Great, thank you. This is the nod in the right direction I needed. I appreciate the advice. Looks like LCD-4z might be the winner for me.
i wish i saw this video sooner. VERY informative!
It is the Chris
indeed it is
Legendary
almost as legendary as THE metal571
Proud owner of the LCD XC. So in love with them.
Same here... Love them! But I can't shake the feeling I am missing something I would only find with open backs. Wondering what Audeze headphone would be the natural upgrade.
@@eLcHiNoChannel oh you are right. Open back driver, and a quality one at that, is a different animal. The spatial presentation and realism is more apparent with open backs. ;)
@@Nephilim-81 Thank you. Now I "must" find my end-game open backs. Let the endless hours of you tube reviews begin lol. I'd appreciate any recommendations.
@@eLcHiNoChannel it is not necessarily an end game. It is just appreciating a different sonic presentation. Enjoy the hunt. I have both open and closed back headphones. I love the differences. :)
@@Nephilim-81 You are right. Thank you. Let the hunt for open-backs begin...
Had the lcd2 prefazor, lcd3 prefazor and even an lcdx prefazor and now the lcd24. Wow is this headphone amazing. I really like how he talks about the presentation of the 24 being unique because it 100% is.
Классный обзор ! Audeze лучшие !
Perhaps you should to a video informing folks about the latest 2021 revisions and pad changes to the lcd lineup including the lcd x and the benefits these revisions bring. I had heard through headfi this was in response to your testing and measuring via a specific microphone? And perhaps you guys found a better way to make the drivers without as much as much variation? Thanks!
This desperately needs an UPDATE Audeze, please!
Yes. We will update this.
Just got the LCDX 2021 …aaaand you need a Schiit Lokius EQ if you don’t do computer audio .
And for those who say you don’t need it ..AUDEZE has EQ patches for Roon ……..
My goal is to buy, own a pair of LCD-2 OR LCD-X so fingers crossed 🤞 love the LCD-X So definitely leaning that way. Be a birthday present to me hahaha 😉🤣
Hi, you said that the 4z is an upgrade to the mx4 in terms of detail retrieval and resolution but you didn't talk about the tuning of the 4z! Since the mx4 has this more neutral flatter frequency response and tuning it seems like a great tool for mixing music or producing. But does the 4z features the same flat/neutral tuning too (but with better drivers) or the more audiophile tuning of the LCD-4 ? If thats so why is it in the reference series. Thanks for clarifying!
Also very curious about that..
Same here... Why would the 4z be in the reference series...?
An LCD 4 in a magnesium housing that has the same impedance sensitivity and weight etc of the original LCD 4 but in a magnesium housing would be legendary I would take that and buy that because I'm not a fan of wood because the fear of cracking in the later years I hope someday you'll make that happen and put it on your website please that would be awesome and my new end game gaming headphones especially for the horror genre😉😉😉
I could be wrong, but I think you can request that and they will sell it to you.
Many thanks for that.
Why is that 4z different than mine? I looks to have a larger weave and copper color instead of gold. Is this the 2nd generation model? Are they sonically identical?
Great video! First time in your channel. Wich headphone amp do you recommend to use with the LCD-MX4?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning
Have a Productive and Healthy day!
let's add more life to it
more colours more art.
let's show what happens when top class tech meets with top class art
Collab??
people get bored of normal let's give them something crazy 👌
Great video. For Jazz. Which Audeze headphone do you recommend and why.
All of our headphones will work great, it depends on your budget and use case. For professional use, the reference like here is a good choice for accuracy. For enjoyment the origins line might be a good choice, stay tuned for more on that...
I have the 4z and I think they sound best with well recorded jazz music. The presentation is so lifelike and accurate it's quite sensational really!
@@AudezeHQ I’m already a big fan and own several Audeze headphones. I was just curious which would you say works best with Jazz
@@behemothinferno which others did you try before deciding on the Lcd4Z
@@whn2309 Just the MX-4's as those were the only two options available from my dealer. Always audition first especially at this price point.
You seem to have discontinued the LCD-1. Does that mean the line for producers now starts with the LCD-X, or are you going to introduce a new set in the $400 area (or maybe $400-700)?
We always have something new in the works and hope to have some announcements in the Fall, so keep your eyes open!
@@AudezeHQ Thanks for the reply!
Is the only difference between the LCD-4 and LCD-4z that its easier to drive? It sounds like its an easy to drive LCD-4 but i would expect a different frequency response as it is tailored for studio use
Both are engineered to sound the same, but it depends on how your amplifier interacts with the different impedances of each model. Also, since they're made of different materials, that does have a small effect on overall sound signature (but not really enough to measure).
what's the album and song that is playing in the background? I like it
Which DAC and HP amp would you recommend for LCDX for pro mixing and mastering? I’m looking potentially into SPL XE ( or SE )+ DAC or maybe SPL Mercury...Any alternatives? Would that make a huge difference when compared to the HP out of my UAD Apollo X? Thank you
Not big news.
Ordered LCD 1 headphones for
WWW.AUDEZE.com and no product or money.
Someone can advise what to do? I'm in Canada
I didn’t understand what you’ve said. Advise? Idk, maybe word out your questions a bit better? Lol
I just don’t get it… all of Audeze HPs lack upper midrange quite noticeably, yet still they are presented like “reference” for production and “speaker-like”. Don’t get me wrong I owned 3 pairs of Audeze headphones (now having only lcd-x) and love them a lot, it’s just strange. Can someone enlighten me?
Chris says: Everyone hears differently, so there are always different flavors of "neutral." You should try the MM-500, MM-100, LCD-5 and CRBN headphones, all of which have a more pronounced upper-midrange. We're due for a new version of this video!
@@AudezeHQ thanks for reply!
I’d laugh so hard if all the sudden Chris said “ now this headphone here. Sucks. Don’t buy this one...moving on.” Lol.
xD
So my LCD-2 is obsolete? Where would it have fit in the model range?
LCD-2s are definitely not obsolete, we still make them and sell quite a lot. They're in the Origins Line video here: czcams.com/video/ScIrKCU7CD0/video.html
LCD-2 (non classic) or LCD-X - which has the better bass?
X
The best one to me is the LCD-2, but not the classic and not the non-classic. The original, which isn't for sale anymore.
Do you plan to update/upgrade LCD4?
So which one is the most neutral reference headphone with no coloration that would be perfect for professional music mastering?
Instablaster
LCD-MX4
Mx4!
LCD-X is totally different HP from LCD-X. You have to be careful which one you're going to buy.
LCD-X are better than LCD-X ,remember it!
LCD-X with 6 fazor or 8 fazor, choice is simple. Isn't it? 🤔
What about LCD-3?
LCD-3 is not part of the Reference Line. It's featured in the Origins Line video here: czcams.com/video/ScIrKCU7CD0/video.html
Crikey! The backing music is awful! Next time, either don't include any nor the drunk/inharmonic pianist. Lets the whole presentation down.