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Epiphone Viola Bass part 1 - Teardown and Upgrades

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  • čas přidán 6. 05. 2021
  • Introducing the well known Epiphone Viola bass. We take a look at some of it's quirks and try to resolve some of them, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss part 2 where we'll actually do some serious work to it.
    It might also be worth noting that yes, the camera frame rate is reduced in this video, this is because I'm an idiot. At some point while setting up, a camera setting was accidentally changed and I only discovered it after I'd filmed the whole thing. Many apologies, and the problem had now been fixed for future episodes.

Komentáře • 70

  • @aleksandrmclean146
    @aleksandrmclean146 Před 3 lety +27

    this channel is CRIMINALLY underrated, i have binged your videos for idk even know how long

  • @idonaor1018
    @idonaor1018 Před 3 lety +12

    When you lowered the camera into the bass I felt like I'm having a tour in some fancy, nicely finished basement.🙃 Love your work. Thanks!

  • @kevinobrien9626
    @kevinobrien9626 Před 3 lety +3

    Paul had so many workarounds ... he played his with such a light touch to keep it semi-in tune. There is also the possibility that the bridge was backwards and he never realized.

  • @dirkbonesteel
    @dirkbonesteel Před 2 lety +3

    I had a 65 Hofner that I had to sell. Replaced it with 67 Hagstrom hollow body because they had same width neck. The Hagrstrom sounded horrible ,but electronics were fine. Cured it and would highly recommend on new or non collector hollow body bass, adding aged wood running like a spine from neck to tail. Also put solid block under bridge area. Result was a much deeper tone and nice sustain. Tone wood maybe a fantasy , but the construction / natural vibration through body makes a huge difference. The same body type 6 string guitar can get away with the total hollow construction but rarely works on a bass. Forgot to mention it cured the annoying neck dive

  • @iefim
    @iefim Před 3 lety +5

    Hi! I'm a bit late, but I just wanted to say how phase switch + blend knob is my favorite thing ever. With phase switch engaged, blend knob becomes this new control which changes the amount of out of phase effect and allows you to get some cool tones. Especially on an instrument with pickups far apart, which violin bass is.

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +2

      That's an interesting idea... I'll definately have to give that a try for sure, thanks.

  • @le_fancy_squid
    @le_fancy_squid Před 3 lety +3

    Hey, I just started watching your channel and I just wanted to say I have been thoroughly enjoying it! You have a nice soothing voice, a simple and nice vibe, and really nice music. Thanks for the content!

  • @ziwelufefe8943
    @ziwelufefe8943 Před 3 lety +5

    You know that you watch this show often when you can hum the montage songs 😂

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +1

      This batch of songs are from an album I recorded earlier this year, here"s a link to the free download: alonetone.com/powerlounge/playlists/cicada-sock-fire

    • @ziwelufefe8943
      @ziwelufefe8943 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fanbladeinstruments thank you I'll give it a listen, i enjoy the montage music

  • @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm

    very nice job = and very nice guitar - so epiphone before fender and gibson brought them = so i just brought one a 1995 viola epiphone beatle bass guitar ! cleaning it while watching you and thank you sir ! i will watch more ! - i have a les paul junior also epiphone ! another smashing great powerful guitar !

  • @KianErikssonOffical
    @KianErikssonOffical Před 2 lety +2

    Great video mate roger loves the video thanks from roger…

  • @alainyong5737
    @alainyong5737 Před rokem

    Thanks for this. I thought I was going nuts with the pickups but you answered my question. I went to the 2 different stores and tested 2 new basses:
    Volume knob(s): hum at levels 9 to 10
    Tone knob: hums at levels 1 to 10
    I guess this is a known issue.

  • @robertstapleton3598
    @robertstapleton3598 Před 2 měsíci

    I had a roommate who stuffed his ES175 with foam and played it in an incredibly loud band. So it must help with feedback.

  • @mickalinjezerx7104
    @mickalinjezerx7104 Před 2 lety +3

    Hey I have a viola he is the first base I ever have a had. It'd be nice he can be brought to my size. Emma self-taught beginner had it for some years. Is it possible that you can repair it.

  • @michaelyolch79
    @michaelyolch79 Před měsícem

    Fascinating! Great video! :)

  • @zaum2002
    @zaum2002 Před 2 lety +2

    These sound 100% more authentic with Pyramid flat wound strings. The strings cost 2/3 the price of the instrument but make a huge difference and are worth it. The bridge is a pain to set up but not impossible - then just leave it.

    • @hpblack1953
      @hpblack1953 Před 2 lety

      Pyramids are great strings and will probably last a lifetime. However I prefer La Bella 760FHB2. Perfect fit, flatwound and E is .096.

  • @8ballman749
    @8ballman749 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome video. Love your band as well.

    • @dreamspeeddsp-musik932
      @dreamspeeddsp-musik932 Před 3 lety

      I think he's playing al Instruments. Kraut like

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, I'm doing everything on the soundtrack, glad you like it. The songs in this episide are from an album I recorded earlier in the year:
      alonetone.com/powerlounge/playlists/cicada-sock-fire

    • @8ballman749
      @8ballman749 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fanbladeinstruments could I use some songs in future videos of mine? You'd be credited fully.

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah dude, chop em up, sample them, do whatever you like, I'd love to hear what you make from them. Cool😁

  • @glenrappold5393
    @glenrappold5393 Před 3 lety +2

    You can move those little pieces of fret wire on the bridge to any slot you want to for proper intonation. That's why it's made that way!

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +3

      Those slots are not even close to being accurate enough!

    • @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
      @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Před 2 lety +2

      i just brought one of these thank you i will play around with their positions ! great info !

    • @hpblack1953
      @hpblack1953 Před 2 lety +1

      I just tilted the bridge a few degrees closer to the G string and I’m in nearly perfect intonation.

  • @martinheath5947
    @martinheath5947 Před 3 lety +3

    Get some flats on it then it's neck pickup all the way 😊 Divine

  • @VoyeurGuitars
    @VoyeurGuitars Před 3 lety +2

    Rumor has it that McCartney used a Hofner because as a lefty he could flip it over and it still looked the same.
    Seems like rumor though, because even the early pics show him with what appears to be a lefty version since the controls were flipped as well.
    You know.... rumors. 😉

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +3

      Half rumour, he played a Hofner because they were the only manufacturer that would make him a left handed one for no extra charge. His first one was custom made, then by the time that one went missing they'd made lefties a standard option. I'd love to know if his Rickenbacker was a custom build, I'm sure it's googleable when I get around to it.

  • @dmitrivincent1433
    @dmitrivincent1433 Před měsícem

    Great review! Would be interesting to know your opinion of this epiphone bass comparing with Horner ignition series or equivalent! I am primarily a fender, which viola bass would you recommend to start of with if I am on budget? Thanks.

  • @seankelly6139
    @seankelly6139 Před 2 lety +1

    Does anyone have a wiring diagram for that mod with the blend pot. Or does the channel guy have one. It was done so fast and far from the camera it is really hard to see what you did. I want to add the blend pot to mine

  • @paultraynorbsc627
    @paultraynorbsc627 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent

  • @strikes22
    @strikes22 Před 2 lety +2

    See would big man Roger like this he loves dogs but not cats what are your thoughts?
    PS. Roger love you

  • @chrispannygolf1601
    @chrispannygolf1601 Před 2 lety +2

    Just got a johnson jj200 for $120 cash on Facebook marketplace. Thrilled.

    • @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
      @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm Před 2 lety +2

      i just got a 1995 epiphone viola bass made in korea = 26 yo perfect condition ! = $425 cash ! $700 odd new ! made in china now !

  • @artthanos5515
    @artthanos5515 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, subbed!

  • @alainyong5737
    @alainyong5737 Před rokem

    My Viola bass, 2019 model, has a hum when I turn the volume and/or tone to 9 or 10. Does yours do the same thing? It should have NYR/NYT mini humbuckers.

  • @smarzig5654
    @smarzig5654 Před 2 lety

    I replaced my bridge with one I made, I made little slots for the strings made out of carbon fiber to give it that mute mccarntey sound

  • @JuanRosso
    @JuanRosso Před 2 lety

    Hi! thank you for sharing this really great content. I recently acquired an epi viola and found out it has the same phase issue with the pickups. Could you please detail what you did with the electronics to solve the problem?

  • @smalcerz01
    @smalcerz01 Před rokem

    I have no problem with this bass(5 years of playing live)Sounds great, and much better from hofner ignition.

  • @alexisescobar1974
    @alexisescobar1974 Před 2 lety +1

    Great channel!!! Apart from epiphone and hofner… have you heard about the samick viola bass??

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 2 lety +2

      No, I didn't know Samick had done one, I just quickly googled it and found one on Reverb.com, it looks fairly similar to the Epiphone (flame top, headstock, choice of tuners), and the pickups look like they're from a les paul (a big plus) but the bridge somehow looks even worse than the Epiphone. The listing says it's a semi-hollow body, if that means there's a center block like the Hofner CT series then it's probably a really nice instrument. I'd be quite keen to take one for a test drive, Samick are really underrated in my view, they used to make all the Korean Epiphone stuff that people are so keen on these days. Thanks.

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks Před 2 lety

      @@fanbladeinstruments i guess you cannot have everything but hey theres upgrades, i think that resides internally (the guitar accesories) and or externally (devices to make sound signal of your guitar sound good )
      which begs the question
      Is better to upgrade componets of your guitar? or to upgrade the componets that you plug your guitar into??

  • @spiritsunssystem194
    @spiritsunssystem194 Před 2 lety

    I'm pretty sure I'm any taught musician's worst nightmare. I play an epiphone viola bass and that's all I know about the bass, I found it in my late grandfather's guitar collection about half a year back, and just started looking up song tabs and that's basically what I'm still doing. I couldn't tell you a thing about notes, scales, chords, or anything music theory-related. I'm just having fun with it the way I do with everything. Trial & error until I get good at it. Is it practical? Gods no, by no means whatsoever, it takes a lot longer than otherwise to learn songs. I still just think it's rly fun to work through it though.

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 2 lety +1

      Far from a nightmare, if anything it's pleasent memories. We all had to start somewhere, just keep on playing and good luck😁

  • @ianchisholm9260
    @ianchisholm9260 Před 2 lety

    Perhaps you could use some of that clear double sided tape that they’re advertising constantly , to secure the Bridge… I had a pair of German 1964 Hofner Violin basses back in 1968-69, but sold them both to buy a 1967 Gibson EB3 .. those Hofners were far superior to any of any of the newer ones I’ve played since then.,

  • @hasansalameh1170
    @hasansalameh1170 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video thank you 🙏🏽

  • @claywoodslim1511
    @claywoodslim1511 Před rokem

    Love your channel, mate :) Not saying its a good design, but are you supposed to remove the metal pieces the string goes over from one slot to another in the wooden part of the bridge, to intonate each string separately? Or are they stuck in there good? Even if that is possible, its not a good design...

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před rokem +1

      Each of those little metal pieces can be inserted into one of four slots, so it's "adjustable" just not precisely intonatable. Thanks.

  • @duckduckenson9227
    @duckduckenson9227 Před 3 lety +2

    These basses sound and look good but I remember them being really bad for slap🤔

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety +3

      The guitarist in my band wanted to slap me for buying it🤣

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks Před 2 lety

      well the strings are too far apart to be able to slap away anyway

  • @josegu7721
    @josegu7721 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey, do you have these bridges and modifications for sale?

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 3 lety

      Sadly not yet, think of this one as an instructional prototype. With the time I actually put in to make it it'd be far too expensive unless I could refine the process and do a batch run of them to keep the cost down, but that's all for another time in the (hopefully) not too distant future. Thanks.

  • @f4bull00s4
    @f4bull00s4 Před rokem

    I think next 2 steps
    1-put flatwound strings
    2-put a pick guard on

  • @mariol2116
    @mariol2116 Před 2 lety

    I WANT TO GET THE MCCARTNEY SOUND, WHAT NUMBER SHOULD I SET EACH KNOB TO? 2 ARE FOR PICKUPS AND ONE FOR THE TONE, SOMEONE HELP ME

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 2 lety +1

      It's more than just pickup selection, but you can start with neck on 100% and bridge on 70%. Then you will need flatwound strings, a felt pick, and play really lightly. That'll get you very close to McCartney's tone, and you can adjust your amp to refine it even more. Hope that helps, good luck.

    • @mariol2116
      @mariol2116 Před 2 lety

      @@fanbladeinstruments Thank you very much for responding, and how far do I leave the Tone knob? . Indeed, I do have flats strings, just yesterday I bought them

    • @mariol2116
      @mariol2116 Před 2 lety

      @@fanbladeinstruments Thank you very much for responding, and how far do I leave the Tone knob? . Indeed, I do have flats strings, just yesterday I bought them

  • @anthonysilva5312
    @anthonysilva5312 Před 2 lety

    Fully hollow? Were they always that way?

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před 2 lety +1

      Yep, all the way back to the very first Hofner models, although predating that was the Gibson EB-1 which was a solid body. There's been variations over the years, the Hofner CT series have center blocks which increase the weight but improve virtually everything else (balance, tone, sustain, not feeding back at high volume), if I were to spend the money again I'd almost certainly get a CT series. Thanks.

  • @nerkoids
    @nerkoids Před rokem

    Those pups are severely microphonic.

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před rokem +1

      I wouldn't say 'severely', in fact I never noticed it before. It's hanging beside me as I type and I just checked, and yes they are a little bit microphonic, nowhere near as bad as some I've encountered but on a hollow body that might make enough difference to be noticeable. It's about due for a restring so I'll use the opportunity to drop some other mini humbuckers in there to see what happens, thanks.

    • @fanbladeinstruments
      @fanbladeinstruments  Před rokem

      Also, Hey, are you the Uncle Nerky that does custom decals? I've been hearing about your good work and will be looking at getting a batch in the near future, Cheers.

    • @nerkoids
      @nerkoids Před rokem

      @@fanbladeinstruments yes I am!
      Cheers to you as well, kind Sir!

    • @nerkoids
      @nerkoids Před rokem

      @@fanbladeinstruments I find the artec mini bass buckers to be a good substitute. Ceramic-based, but they have a lot of bottom-end to them and they are well constructed. These basses scream for flatwounds, if ever you're so inclined to get some.

  • @JasDarc
    @JasDarc Před rokem

    I had a Hofner violin bass bought for me by my dad in 62. It was a piece of crap. The pickups howled like wolves at anything like stage volume and the "bridge" with fretwire bits on snapped strings all day long. It was crap and the mystique attached to them is bullshit. Buy a Fender at least it will do the job. Avoid this design like the plague it is an apology for a bass.