DELPHI CASE: THE SCENE WAS OBVIOUSLY STAGED?
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Could it be any more obvious?
NO.
They may accuse someone of this murder but with what’s going on with KK and his charges, his friends and father not to mention RL, dead or not has to still be viable person of interest. This murder is way too big for the BS that’s going on in this case, town and state! Maybe it was just a guy, with accomplices, looking for girls to traffic! The longer it takes to solve the more suspicious it looks!!
Once the bodies were found, surely LE reviewed the helicopter and drone footage to see if the bodies were there during the first day search. Does anyone have any info on this?
LE looks more like BG than Allen does.
Allen is too short to be BG
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There's noway that drone missed those bodies they weren't there is my opinion plus all the searches going on the drone got deer and searchers on there so someone is hiding something
Thank goodness someone is reporting on the bizarre fact that people can’t see logic in front of their face! I love this channel ❤
Quick question ... why is it believed the person with a drone didn't detect "heat". He stated he didn't believe it was Libby & Abby because they weren't moving around or standing. He also stated he thought (believed) he saw a "deer" ... lying down. (Thus, the object that appeared to be a "deer" on the ground would give off heat. Right? (It should) And, does/could this mean he could make out the "antlers" as well? Curious because cut off antlers wouldn't put out "heat". Would it have even been possible to see "antlers" using a night vision drone?
And, did he believe he saw "a" deer or a "few" deers? Or, just a mass shaped like a deer? (Could 1 body give off heat but, not the other? Asking in the event if 1 victim was in the creek prior ~2:15pm and one victim never was. Or, not as long/not as deep; IF the girls actually crossed the creek first (before RL's property). Suggested they did. Not proven. Or, route/path taken to RL's property. No time stamp on down the hill. *Maybe no video.* Were they already at the crime scene by ~2:15pm+/- via North end and never cross over. Did the girls cross over and exit just before 2:13pm on south end? *Did the girls cross over to South end and turn right back around and head back to North end?* Were they followed (then; ON the bridge after 2:13pm )? Or, 5"-10" later on North end AFTER exiting bridge ... by ~ 2:19pm+/-? Before ~ 2:25pm on a path or trail leading to RL's property? And, thus by whom?
See why ACTUAL timestamp on "Down The Hill" is so important?! AND, correct location. (The masses assummmed/guessed/state ~13 seconds after stepping off bridge; on South end. REALLY? The male is 55-75 feet back. And, no leaves gravel under his feet ON the bridge. They know the audio recording is 42 seconds long. Reverse engineering "answer" because ~ 30 seconds away from end of bridge; on that side.] Thus, is the "answer" given a FACT or presumption based on time/distance of only what they can see?
[Seems a little odd for Abby to ask is the creepy guy still following - ON a bridge? Where else would the creepy guy go to if also crossing the bridge? Would need to listen to background noises FIRST. Were Libby and Abby ... on or off ... the bridge when this was asked. LE and famiky haven't said ... not straight forward. And, were family given the time stamp? They infer the conversatiin was further back; more notth than south, on the bridge (before the bridge).. Okay. Before, during or after 2:13pm? Leaves & gravel or bridge/wood underneath people's feet? These details are close to vest. Hopefully, all for good reasons. LE have never had a comment really regarding ~ 2:14pm. Never really asked for potential witnesses from that south side.
But, also covered in leaves and sticks ... would that/should that obscure visibility? How much? (Nearly all parts covered?)
Were leaves wet/soggy or dried out from past snowy days?
Would that raise or lower body tempersture?
How cold did it get that night?
What time was the drone flight.
Time of death may be an hour earlier than originally believed.
And, last but, not least the temperature rules for these body heat losses is meant to start with a warm body at normal temperatures.
The scale was not meant for post mortem/deceased bodies as a starting point. (And, gases created internally that could raise body temperature.)
But, if he saw "deer" figures ... didnt he see "heat"? Curious.
But, sure ... could it be a hypothetical 1 (or more ?) Were in the water after (drowned/strangled) AND stabbed. Remember Flow. FBI saw blood in the area. (Copious amounts? Stated suspect would have been covered/sprayed.) Excuse graphic detail ... but, that would infer(not) stabbed post mortem hours and hours later even if stabbed post mortem (rather soon after) blunt force trauma and/or a drowning/strangulation. *Think circulation and rigor/livor mortis.*
Thus, my question would be where was the "copious amounts" of blood on the ground be ... compared to where actual bodies were found/placed?
So many words. Jfc.
They were not covered with leaves. Just a very few sticks
They were never dropped off in the first place, smoke and mirrors to cover up the original crime flow, imo.
The police are given immunity. This makes all bad boys even worse. No accountability 🎉🎉
The problem with the girls being moved is this.
The Girls would have needed to be moved with Libby's mobile phone as nobody would return girls to the forest and the location of a phone. So that means the girls may have been moved with the mobile phone. If they were moved only a few hundred feet the ping wouldn't necessarily have shown as they were all over town. However thats how Libby's phone is reported as being, "Pinging all over town".
Chances are this is just a poor signal area and the girls were not moved far away at all. Mr Steve of Truecrimeweb did ping tests that point to a poor signal area below the bridge.
I think its more likely the girls didn't move far from where they were found.
RA does not look like the second sketch.
Exactly, it's hard to miss a tie-dye t-shirt from any angle, and especially from a drone in flight. Even at night under artificial light, it's going to stand out.
Omg! Just ran across Logan Maxwell's pic he looks like sketch #2 and his dad Joe could pass for sketch #1 who had firearms. They were questioned, are those recordings erased too?
Logan was attached to the KK catfishing angle and he was very tech savvy.
I have always thought they were murdered somewhere else, brought back to the woods and staged. That's why nobody in the large search party could find them that night.
I have said from day one that the scene was staged, when i saw the bodies in the river on the chopper & audio video i thought why are they lying about where they were found, there is also another video where Doug Carter was asked where the bodies were found, and he says on the edge of the river and then you hear them say later on they were found 50 feet from the river. Why did they lie? when i started looking at the suspects they had up any of them could have done it but none had a motive to do it. then i found out Ashley garth was arrested and lost her kid because Libby's Dad told on her about buying meth from her so i thought ok here is somebody with a motive and when i found out the Libby was the target, I'm like ok now it's starting to make sense then when Ashley and Garret Kirts were arrested for murder i thought ok they are bad enough to do this crime. I believe Kegan Kline is involved in this crime; Richard Allen may be involved i am still not sure he did anything but get them from the bridge to the next spot if he is involved. I think the cops believe Ashley, Garret and Kegan are involved they just can't prove it and now with them in prison and off the street i think they wanted somebody to take the fall for this so they could look good now they may think Richard Allen is involved so they jumped on him and want him convicted so again they looked good. some people may think the cops would not do that well they have done worse so yes, they would as long as you have a human involved the chance of greed, power and to be in the spotlight is always a chance. if i am right on this i do not believe that the world will ever know the truth. The way Richard Allen has been treated i believe is a crime and that makes me believe even more that this is all set up for Richard Allen to take the fall.
And how much does the "Freemasons" issue weigh in here 🤔
Bridge guy MAY have been arrested BUT IS IT THE RIGHT GUY??? I DONT THINK SO. Way too many SUS actions have happened by law enforcement. Just because the PC or former prosecutor says something is legit does NOT make it a fact.
Of course it was staged! They weren’t killed there! Was more than one person, with transportation. People know more!!
damn straight
RA is not the right guy. I believe more about it being a sacrifice. Remember RA said lots of odin patches at the prison.. I also believe in a possible connection with Evansville
Human sacrifice happens a LOT more than you may think.
Did they send the cop watchers down to Delphi to pester the cops the auditing guys usually they do to see what they can find out just curious is all
Just the undressing and redressing of the victim(s) ... is staging/staged. (One dressed twice.)
Phone activity (turning off/on and hiding).
Taking/turning off ~ 4:30pm. OR ...
Waiting near crime scene until 4:30/turning off/hiding.
Returning to crime scene (disturbed) phone turned on/hid. Night owl. Revisits/Returns. (MO/Signature)
One potential witness may have seen a victim being 'drowned' (strangled) ... That victim would have been moved ... to be next to (Libby) ... could be for 'staging'
Are drowning or strangulation a signature of killer?
[Abby "alone" dragged up hill; AFTER "creek" event would be consistent with FBI's observations listed in their report. And, 2:15pm+/- Freedom Bridge witness. May explain *rumors* by locals assuming Abby "ran to climb up hill" or "tried to crawl away" ... scratches to arms, dirty nails. But, NO obvious struggle per FBI. No "dragging" signs/marks on Libby? Blunt force trauma potentially occurred on RL's property. (Just prior to Abby being "drowned" or strangled?) Regardless, of route/path taken. Regardless, if a creek was crossed or not. Regardless, if 1 or more perps.
Both victims described as stabbed post mortem (inferred by: clothing and no "cause/manner" of death given by FBI). Staging (a signature or MO) used to misdirect. Plausible and probable here.
The potential note found. "R U UP"
All capital letters, (cryptic/misdirect timing or person), Not victims handwriting or "normal" handwriting style. (But, found "outside" not inside; does it "belong" to this crime? Could if ALL capital letter notes are a signature. 50/50 because "outside")
Antlers ... could be staging. Be that for a "look" or ... "reason" for misdirection. Keep people away? (Had it snowed but, it didn't.) Decomp causes odor. Would antlers, sticks, snow, (later odor) ... keep people away for weeks or a month from "spotting" that area. (Affiliation of animals in crime scene staging. A Signature?)
[If that's the perp's thoughts/fantasy/motive ... why stab after "drowned" (strangled) and/or "blunt force trauma". Why not "hide" in the creek instead of under leaves? Does the perp WANT bodies ... eventually found; AFTER winter (after decomposed)? BUT, with a confusing cause/manner? IDK/Maybe. Again, may be a signature or MO. (Does stabbing spead up decomp?)]
Were victims NOT placed/kept in the creek to avoid floating? (Again, possibly to hide cause/manner and/or who, date/time by DELAYING DISCOVERY of bodies longer as a "deer" grave site.) Signature? Perp already turned off/on and/or hid phone.
Not fully understanding the stabbing "post mortem" only to then hide the bodies. (Fantasy vs biological)
[Was the stabbing supposed to mimick a staged ritual if found sooner? Maybe. Cover all bases of misdirect.]
Is "that" a signature of "this" particular killer? Staging of cause/manner/motive to appear in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS simultaneously ... chaos & confusion.
At least 1 sign/staging of "humilation" of one victim. (Nude)
Even if complex ... (or convoluted) ... for false or real motives. (As when perps stage victims w/ dr*gs, alcohol, nude.)
Months later may have appeared Abby wore Libby's clothes to keep warm if lost (natural cause). Or, a s*xually motivated (staged) crime - true or not - if discovered sooner. Never forget Organized Crime have also used complex staging. (May or May Not have been a s*xually motivated crime. Wasn't a given.)
Fantasy motivated vs a specific motive (aka organized crime/tentacles?)
Although was shocked to learn these small rural towns have dr*g related crimes and or gangs and organized crime problems ... the same as anywhere else with these issue.
Lots of potential Signatures and Staging.
Hind site ..
But, for now ... only a guy named Richard/Rick.
Who openly admitted ... yeah ... had a gun & KNIFE.
Without hesitation. That alone would have gotten an immediate search warrant... more than 7 years ago.
Had Dan Dulin ever suspected voice, size, build, face was similar to ... anything released. He didnt. Nor co workers. Or, friends & family. Or, neighbors. Or, LE. Or, customers.
Thank goodness "killers" walk up to LE on their own accord to make sure LE are aware THEY had a gun & knife on them the day after 2 girls found brutally murdered?!?! (Yes? No? Maybe?)
That's the story we're being given.
What ever type Psychopath responsible ... eery how similar their signatures (seem) to be.
Organized crime? (Libby left nude/humiliation)
S*xual deviant?
S*xual deviant involved with organized crime?
S*xual deviant responsible if conspiracy; organized?
[S*xual deviant lured to the scene of a crime unaware?]
Or, totally oblivious to what happened ... who, what, why?
Will RA have any ties or connections with A_S profile?
Did he confess more than 30 times? What context? (Joking with friends because there and wears jeans?) And, when? Before ever arrested OR only when forced by Odin staff after incarcerated?
When asked how he replied "shot in the back".
Not even "stabbed" ... and many seem to have known at least partial details.
Only, "one" saying "drowned" (but, perhaps strangled)?
And, in hind site FBI may agree with ... the "one".
The one ... LE seemed to have dismissed (the most).
wonder if Libby was taking a pic of her stepgrandfather because he was on the bridge. It would have been a "memorable occasion". Crossing the bridge was an Event, because it was seen as "scary". His alibi that day was always kind of sketchy. If it was, that pic may have nothing or everything to do with the tragedy. I still believe the girls were picked up and taken elsewhere, then Placed after first search.
The best investigation with the clearest damming chain of evidence is in that Franks Motion
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