Ranking EVERY Mikel Arteta Signing EVER!
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2024
- Adam McKola, Rory Jennings & Buvey create a tier list ranking of all of Mikel Arteta's signings since he joined Arsenal.
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I’m sure this ranking will be very objective and well informed !
Sorry to disappoint
@@astro9219I think his comment was 💯 sarcasm
@@cully84 mine was 200 percent sarcasm
@@astro9219 ah here. No. You do know that no possible. Simple maths 😱🤦♂️ can’t ever get above 110 percent
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You know its bad when Adam Mckola is the voice of reason in the room.
I know and I a Utd fan 😮 still laughing after watching their video ranking the football podcasts a few days ago. Slating everyone. The lack of self awareness is brilliant 😂.cant stop watching though hahaha
As an arsenal fan with nothing but loathing for Adam... he's been the most spot on about everyone. Jesus they hype him too much, ramsdale they slaughter him too much. And yeah Turner was like 1m and sold for a profit. Good bit of business. Well done Adam, you've grown!
It just shows how much the other two hate arsenal
Agree with Adam about Partey actually!!😂😂tòo many injuries to judge!!
@@NicholasJ- I dont think so, i think the injury should be included hence its a does the job, he was brought in to take us to the next level and he did. We need to evolve into a level above him though, only due to his injury though.
Slagging off Jorginho and he puts in a MoTM performance against Liverpool today
The “Absolutely Useless” Fabio Vieria has more goals and assists in the league than Enzo and Caicedo combined ☠️ and Vieria has been out injured for the last 3 months☠️☠️☠️ proof little buddy doesn’t know anything ☠️☠️☠️
It’s getting a little obvious how little they watch arsenal and just speak to jump on the bandwagon. “Jesus better on the left” for us, based on what, how many games he played there? Trossard “always cuts in” how many assists have been off his left foot when he’s faking and crossing on the outside? And don’t start on their well informed analysis of Fabio Vieira, my word
I doubt they ever seen Fabio vieria even play and are saying stupid shit because it gets comments
vieira against fulham was crazy, went to the starting XI after that game
Ya. He's had horrible moments, not been good, but he's not a stinker. Young as well, obviously brought him as a prospect, hadn't worked out well, yet, which means it could come good, though didn't look like it
Fabio viera was looking so good before his injury. He was favored in being in the starting XI
How is Jorginho a big mistake? I watch Arsenal week in week out and aside from the Spurs game, he’s been decent. Hasn’t really been a world class player but he was brought in to be a squad player and an experienced head in the dressing room so with that being said, he is the definition of does the job.
Agree Jorginho's been solid as...Rory just hates any ex chelsea players in the epl.
These guys don’t watch football anyways mate, considering the transfer fee Jorginho has been class
He cost us a silly 12m. West Ham performance alone justifies that in my books
He was 10M. If that's not a bargain, I don't know what is
Yeah this aged like fine milk lol. Jorginho has been instrumental in Arsenals streak of wins in Jan and Feb
Jorginho and Zinchenko is the big mistake category is mad.
I don’t particularly like either.
Just shows that these guys have based this on very little.
Jorginho has to be does a job
I was thinking the same. This definitely needed an Arsenal representative on it to really make the decisions
@@Mrdip-dipsure you’d only get an arsenal fans biased opinion then. They all talk pony on purpose to have us comment so they make more money.ffs talk sport at it and they all on national radio
@@ryanhickman3335I don't get the hate surrounding jorginho. He hasn't put a foot wrong.
@@bronzy9826I don’t hate him, far from it, but he lost us 2 points at home to spurs this year
“Pablo Mari brazilian CB”💀
Init
To be fair he is incredibly forgettable
Great start😂
I think the confusion was because he came from the Brazilian league.
He was pretty good at flamengo. I think if it wasn't for injuries and had he came younger he would've been a pretty good player for arsenal. Shame things didn't work out.
@@kikaGama98 the confusion is buvey or whatever is a moron
They sold Turner for double than what they bought him for so that can’t be a big mistake.
Yeah you're right signing a shit keeper was a mint idea mate
@@unclebensrice4702 If you can make profit on a signing then that’s usually a good signing.
They also paid 3.5 million for a free signing in Marquinos.
@@unclebensrice4702 he barely played for us or cost us any games so the best way to judge him would be the business.
And also was solid for us in Europe. In his time at Arsenal he didn't show any of his Forest form.
Seeing 3 rival fans rating signings from a club they don’t watch week in and week out is insane to me
They’re just giving their opinions as rival fans. I quite like listening to non LFC fan channels to hear what they think of how we’re playing right now.
All I can hear from them is just hate
and one they clearly all hate lol. Adam somehow the most level headed in this when he might hate arsenal the most.
0:56 not a great start lads, he’s Spanish
The Arsenal hate is crazy, and to not have an Arsenal fan here makes no sense 😂
Nobody ever wants to be in the same room as an Arsenal fan 👍
exactly, they're annoying lot@@stephengriffith7066
@@stephengriffith7066then don't make videos about us you incel
Truer words never spoken@@stephengriffith7066
Usually things are hated for good reason, not no reason. Maybe take those Arsenal goggles off & have a think about why Arsenal are not liked by opposition fans, there are many traits with your club that get right up people's noses & that's a polite way to put it pal. 😂
Off topic but for a guy in his first manager job where he is pushing two generational managers in Klopp and Pep he gets a lot of stick. He’s only been a manager for 4 years ffs
Agreed. Arsenal were poor when he came in and he’s had to basically rebuild the team and turned them into genuine challengers and its his first job.
"Yeah but challenging for the title is meaningless if you don't win it" - what I'm imagining Rory would say. Arsenal should be midtable like Chelsea
This should be studied as an example of how the internet has radicalised opinions, particularly among those with a 'platform'.
David Luiz wasn’t anything special on the pitch but he was amazing with our youth players. I remember watching an interview with Saka where he mentioned that David Luiz was the first player in the first 11 that helped him on and off the pitch. Some things are hard to consider when there is no metric system to show how positive of an impact he may have had on Saka’s development.
Rory's utter repulsion at any attempt to introduce nuance and context to this debate is fascinating. He's managed to make McKola look like Socrates in comparison.
Trossard on ''Does the job'' is silly. He's a perfect signing because he does exactly what they wanted from him. Being the perfect 12th man. He was bought to replace Martinelli when injured or when Martinelli gets rest. He also is useful on the 9. Nobody expected him to be a starter. While he's given them performances worthy of being a starter. That's a perfect signing.
And Jorginho does the exact same thing. He does the job when he's needed. He also wasn't intended to be a part of the starting 11. The ''main'' midfield is often Havertz, Rice, Odegaard. Or Rice, Partey, Odegaard. Joriginho is another 12th man that does the job whenever he plays.
I love The Club, but this discussion isn't a good one... I think they need to fact check themselves during the recording to ensure that they don't get wages and transfer fees wrong. Also to compare against other clubs spend in similar timeframes for context.
Why ?? All they do is talk bull. You come here for expert opinions but this video has you thinking ??? What ?????!!!!!!!
@@cully84you should expect good content from people who do this as a job, they judge professional footballers as if they have an iota of an idea of what makes a good footballer but they have no respect for their own profession as pundits
A lot of the signings were stop gaps Becuase Arteta couldn’t immediately sign big names consistently, had started of with getting loans and terminating contracts to fix the rotten squad he inherited
100% correct
Why does Rory hate Fabio Vieira so much ☠️☠️☠️
Same reason that he hates common sense.
Fabio viera is not even as bad as they make him out to be
Yeah I get your point and he was cheap as well wasn't he but you can not say he improves the starting XI...
@@couturecriminal8330£35 million ain't cheap
This aged well after jorginhos performance against liverpool
And kiwior or Havertz as well they’ve been good
Zinchenko in the bottom tier is a disgrace
I really do like you three but you need an arsenal fan to discuss this topics. There's more nuance that only a fan who watches every game and follows all the transfer stories etc. can speak on.
Keep up the content, you guys are great!
Why would you get the most delusional clapped fan base to talk about their own club?
@@Sibstajimjam1719I like your profile picture mate it’s good you’re proud to be in the gay fisting community, need more lgtb representation in football
Great at what exactly ?? You can’t seriously be of the opinion that these lads are great when it comes to departing expert football knowledge to ball. I here for a laugh 🤭
@@Sibstajimjam1719entertainment 😂😂sure you wouldn’t be here for any other reason. This channel is comedy more than sport related. That Rory fella and how he keeps a straight face whilst talking the s**t* that he does takes some doing. Has to be applauded 👏 and he on national radio. Just shows anyone no matter how little they know can succeed in life. 😊
@@Sibstajimjam1719because the hosts of this show are equally delusional and clapped but against arsenal, this ranking is pure nonsense lmao
I don't like Arsenal as much as the next guy but at least remove your bias when talking about something like this. It's hard to watch at times because you just come across as knowing absolutely nothing about football when I think it's more just a case of being so blinded by your bias that you can't look at anything objectively. So many of these are such bad, bad shouts.
Also, the constant mention of "he's signed a lot of players" from Rory of all people is mental. Like just for context, Arsenal have spent less and signed less players since Arteta took over than Chelsea have since Todd bought Chelsea a year and a half ago. Give it a rest Tory lad.
I'm a neutral towards English football. And the thing that bothers me about these 3 and a lot of YT pundits in general, is how terrible their arguments are.
They will sometimes base their entire opinion on a player on a single performance or a single season. Also with the way they cover the PL season. Liverpool can win 6 matches in a row convincingly, have 1 bad away game and draw that match and their titles will be ''Liverpool drops out of the PL title race?!?!?!'' and they'll completely wreck them. While the week after, literally 1 week after. They'll have win in the CL convincingly and won 4-0 at home convincingly in the PL and their titles will be ''Liverpool is back in the PL title race!!!''
There's little nuance. Everything is an extreme. Like the way they were talking about certain players here. I genuinely dislike Zinchenko and think he's overhyped. But he's surely not in the Big Mistake tier. I think he's weak defensively, often overcomplicates it when going forward and is mentally a weak point in the squad. BUT he's also had a bunch of good games and was a part of the great streak Arsenal had last season. He's done a decent enough job.
Amazing how Rory can make almost everything about Chelsea...in almost every video: "you know it's like Chelsea back in 1956 when we..."
Honestly!
Duh I am the same what do you expect no you tell me I know your club started 5 years ago so your history is condensed in a small period😑
Arsenal do like buying the Chelsea rejects.
23:30 Adams right he was brought in as a 3rd keeper and sold for profit a year later, not a bad signing at all
Imma spurs fan and the Arsenal hate in this is crazy, some players in some categroies are crazy, Zinchenko even the whole Ramsdale discussion I felt was so harsh
Buvey’s dislike for Ramsdale is mental, when man said Raya would elevate us to a next level whilst completely disregarding everything Rambo has done (TOTY GK last year btw) is unreal. Of course you’re gonna look worse when playing for crap sides of Sheff Utd and Bournemouth
He said himself that he can't stay focused for 90 minutes. That's shocking for a top level keeper.
Buvey is right. like it or not.
Well clearly Arteta agrees with Buvey 😂
Even if people prefer Raya idg how Rams isn’t a great signing. Brought us up levels for 30 mil and can be sold for at least 45-50 mil if he leaves this summer
Just because Raya is also shit doesn't mean Rammsdale isn't
Most players Arteta has signed has had some reasoning behind it, He wanted a left footed CB so he got Mari, He wanted a back up GK so he got Turner, A creative midfielder that can cover positions so he got Vieira, a versatile RB so he got White and Tomi.
The bias just shines through from them and blinds them from making a neutral decision. Arteta also inherited a squad that couldn't play how he wanted so why would he not sign a lot of players to get them to where he wants them and we were also finishing 8th at the time so the top players wouldn't come hence the lesser signings to help get us back into contention for the bigger names
Arteta gets disrespect because he’s arsenal manger, his first job as manager trying to break up 2 of the most dominant teams and managers the league has ever seen and he still gets criticised, the fact we’re even competing is a great step in the right direction
If spending 30m on ederson and winning the league is the barometer then everyones fucked
If clubs are allowed to cheat then their players shouldn't count.
Some of these decisions are ludicrous
When vieira does play he’s actually good
Good God ! are you sure.He's proper abysmal, lightweight, invisible player who will never make it in this league - £30mill for him is almost as bad as 65mill for the misfit Havertz...Christ!
No he's shocking - the very definition of the 'invisible' man...
@gspianoguitar4369 tell me you ball watch without saying you ball watch XD
@ACE360x I have no idea what you're talking about. Anyway Vieira will never make it in this league
I wouldn't say good, he's had some moments. Was bought as a prospect, had not worked out brilliantly so far. But not a stinker
Rory’s projecting his thoughts on Chelsea signings through this Arsenal list 😂
Zinchenko in "Big mistake" is mad. Yes he's not been great defensively since he has come in and it has really shown this season. But discounting his contributions last season in helping get us back in the top 4 seems a mistake. I'd put him in "Does the job" and Vieira, Havertz and Kiwior in "Jury's out"
He’s definitely a threat going forwards, but he’s almost a liability defensively.
I think your take on Fabio Vieira is harsh. I think the jury is out certainly, but he's one of the most technically gifted players in the squad and can pick out a pass better than most.
its truly pathetic how badly Rory slags off ex-Chelsea players who aren't English. especially when they contributed massively to winning the champions league. Only has an affinity for English players who are "Proper Chels" or the occasional foreign player who he feels puts in a shift.
Jorginho DOES THE JOB! To put him in mistake is crazy!! Ramesdale absolutely does the job. I can’t believe the city fan was saying mistake! Some of his saves last season were match winning saves! Arsenal will never see the best of Rambo now, because the pressure on him is unreal. He has to leave and everyone will see how good he is. I wish him all the best! You could say the same for Jesus! Absolutely love the guy, excellent player but it’s pains me to say, he has to go too. They both did the job to make us a better team but not top tier because there not good enough to win us the league
Trossards last goal he literallly didnt cut in. Rory talk shit with so much confidence 💀
M. Turner was quite a good bussiness for Arsenal. Signed for 5M, sold for 15M as second goalkeeper.
You guys HAVE to do this with Ten Hag. Would be hilarious 🙏🏼
Also failing to understand that Arteta changed from "1st Team Coach" to "Manager" in September 2020... tends to have a small effect on your input into a clubs transfer dealings.
Some of them made no sense to me. And THAT makes sense cuz you 3 are not arsenal fans lol
Zinchenko minimum in Jurys Out same with Kiwior. Kiwior has been average at best. Tomiyasu is at the same level as Ben White or IMO even better should be straight in in Perfect Signing. Jorginho has to be in Does the Job all day every day. Havertz for now has to be in Jurys Out, had couple useless games but had couple of decent games to.
Agreed with all of this and vierera also needs to be atleast jury’s out if not does the job
Speant a lot yes, but look at the squad he got. Needed a complete clear out
The squad is barely equal to when he began... a good coach can make bad players better.. a good coach could of spent 0 and taken them to a better level... keep the delusions alive 😂
He won a trophy with the way worse squad then and failed with money and a better squad with no trophy on the horizon 4 years later
Exactly. Won the only trophy he has with the squad he got. They play better football now but it all about what you win at the end of the day. Nothing else
@@fplfieco22 he got a squad with a bunch of players already in there prime, and in massively in form auba, he now has an incredibly young squad with almost 0 people in there prime and they are still building. He’s taken us from an 8th place finish to being the clear 3rd best team in the league in his first ever managers job. Only reason everyone seems to think he should have done way more is because is cuz they know how good he is
@@tmithoth8956 So why has pep got one of the most expensive teams in europe and spent well over a billion at his time in man city all the best teams in the world spend massive amounts of money my guy.
I think these type of discussions should only be done by supporters of the clubs, as they watch and know their better than most. There’s no point asking a Man City, Man United and a Chelsea fan who are best signings are, especially Adam and Buvey who hate Arsenal and use every chance to stick the boot in us
Partey is a 10/10 if not for his 40 year old legs
Price of each signing should also be put in context. Cedric as a free transfer in 2020, when Arsenal are 14th in the table makes sense. The player will obviously not make sense for a team that is challenging after 2-3 years.
Is so strange for me, I used to hate Adam on the kick off being an arsenal fan, he hated everyone and was negative. Now I’m sat here thinking he’s genuinely spot on with his positive approach to arsenal. This clip shows he sees it from the right angle. Buying turner for 3rd keeper or Jorge as a cheap backup cdm with experience
3:15, The sheer irony of that analogy with these 3 lads is hilarious.
Rory needs to take his Chelsea goggles off. I think Jorginho was a great signing for the money. Brings experience to a young midfield, has experience in Europe and does a job when called upon. Decent squad player
Quite dangerous to insensate that Partey isn’t available due to off field issues when he’s been injured.
This video is hilarious 😂😂😂
How often they say about the quantity of signings and the cost... failing to mention the comparisons in the same time frame of United, City and Chelsea...
This show has because a complete parody 😂😂 its become clear football isnt for you lads
Raya and ramsdale have 8 pl clean sheets combined which is the most clean sheets for any club.. Its a proven success :D they are partners in crime haha 😊
the obsession with arsenal is crazy
Do you watch the news at all. Obsession with arsenal. I a Utd fan. Who you think get more media attention ??? Yous a better team so you should as should Liverpool and city and have the league at this stage but cop on. It not even close when it comes to who they talk about the most
Your an arsenal fan ye ?? You not think your search history might have something to do with the videos you been advised to watch. Most talked about thing to do with arsenal is the fan channels
cry bro
@@cully84
I'm super glad you added a table so we can see it visually. good job, keep it up
Arteta made the keeper issue. Had he made Martinez number one after fa cup win wouldn't have had all this. Signed too many keepers that haven't worked. Turner, Runarson, Ramsdale, Raya. 4 keepers in 4 years is madness. Top sides sign a top keeper and stick
I think the overall quality of the signings improved once Raul Sanllehi left the club, it was his strategy to work with agents and try to find "great deals" rather than to look at how players would fit into the squad. Sanllehi's structure was that he takes care of signings and Arteta works with what he is given, there was a massive disconnect. The structure now has Edu making signings but very much in partnership with Arteta. You can argue Sanllehi only was responsible for two signings that really worked out for us... William Saliba and Gabriel Martinelli and Martinelli was apparently due to all the work and influence of Edu rather than Sanllehi.
First words starting off pablo mari Brazilian centre back when man is Spanish
When Rory says “I’d go as far as to say…”
You KNOW a ridiculous statement is coming
Jesus and Zinchenko were great signings considering we signed them without having Champions League football, we should be attracting better players going forward
Jesus has been a great signing for them.
How has Adam become the resonable person on this channel, bro actually speaks with logic nowadays.
mstt turner goes in top tier was signed from mls and flipped for profit whilst puttin in decent performances and only conceding one goal against man city and a coouple good europa league games as well as earned himself a sport in the world cup and then scammed forest top tier. was also so enthusiastic and made everyone happy and laugh in the dressing room
Jury's out is always applicable especially when the player has just switched teams because its a new system, new tactics etc. but Rory doesn't know ball so not surprised. with the data seen on KDB and salad for Chelsea they would've written them off, but a different team and system literally changed their careers
Rory’s football knowledge is absolutely shocking 😂.
Lads bare minimum effort to get your editor to make a tier list graphic ffs
You guys acting like Ramsdale's career is over is just crazy. Probably won't work out at Arsenal, but he's still very young and has a lot ahead of him.
I’m a Chelsea fan so I don’t have the best knowledge of Arsenal ..but I would have love to see Ben white on CB .. I remember when I think it was the euros and everyone was saying how impressed they were with rookie Ben White on centre back, and I was very excited to see what he was gonna do but it’s like Colwill some of his stuff is taken away when it gets put on the wing. Also, I would love Ramsdale on Chelsea, I think Petrovic doing a good job but I think Ramsdale is a lot better than Arteta rates …I’m sorry I don’t get Raya
What a hot take on Matt Turner from Rory. Turner was signed as a back up likely for commercial reasons (American market) and sold on for a profit. He's now a starting GK in the Premier League albeit for a poor side and he's a starter for his national team. It's a fine deal for me.
This is why there should be an Arsenal man in that room. You guys didn't know Arteta came in to a different structure? He didn't make most of those signings. He became a "Manager" much later.
Zinchenko as a huge mistake for 25M is nuts. Yea, he’s not a long term solution, but he was really good last season and was a part of their ascendancy.
This aged really well 😂
I would change:
Does the Job - Jorginho, Turner, Mari
Jury's Out - Vieira, Havertz
Perfect Signing - Trossard
Zinchenko is between Perfect Signing and Does the Job
I'm struggling with the view on Martin O. To say he goes missing in the big 6 games... We've not lost a game against the big 6. (depending on whether you class Newcastle as top 6)
I agree - we need to see more, but I feel that he makes sacrifices in big games to keep us in the game.
I stopped listening to what Buvey said after he said Peter Crouch deserves to be in the Prem hall of fame over Matt Le Tissier
Arteta has literally built the second most valuable team in the world! They are talking about Arteta’s signings like they are Ten Hag’s
So to conclude, went from 8th to 2nd to only city and every signing was a mistake. Nice one lads. As ill-informed as anything Buvy puts his name to
As an Arsenal fan, I rate Rory for the objectivity on Ramsdale. The disrespect he gets is phenomenal how there's even a conversation around him being less than 'Does the Job' is beyond me. Totally feels like a case of judging a player's career on current form/situation. In my opinion, Ramsdale has been treated a bit unfairly by Arteta this season, because it really isn't like he's done anything wrong, not much more than Raya anyway. Honestly, I'd put their abilities so close to call, that honestly, I think it's Arteta's preference, and Ramsdale is looking worse off because of it.
Looking at Rory’s face makes me want to watch Manifest, I loved him in that TV series so much
There should be a 'gross misconduct' section for Havertz. It's not a mistake if you can clearly see he was abysmal for his former club for 3 years.
But Havertz is brilliant for Arsenal. Not Arteta's problem that managers before him failed to utilize him correctly.
Guys please hire a graphic designer/editor and create a visual graphic board embedded in the video so we can properly follow along when you categorize and/or rank football related things.
People have this mad obsession with Arsenal & Arteta but then they come out with clueless nonsense like this.
If you clearly don’t watch Arsenal why are you so obsessed?
Best part about the Matt Turner hate is he kept a clean sheet against England in the World Cup 😂. Kane, Bellingham, saka, and sterling couldn’t score on him.
Commercial context is needed here. Arsenal clearly have a plan for big hitters, gap fillers and prospects- they can’t all be judged on whether they are full successes in the first team. Lakonga, Tavares were signed for reasonable cash and playing regularly on loan- they will likely turn a profit. Matt Turner was for the American market. Viera was most exciting player to come through Porto for years. Jorginho is reliable backup and experience for a young squad- he is doing just fine. Sorry guys, could go on- this video is littered with errors and bias.
Adam's reason for Partey is terrible. How can Arteta know that he would have off the field issues etc? you can't judge it being a bad signing on that. Jorginho hasn't been a flop, he does the job. Zinchenko was responsible for us going from 8th to 2nd by boosting the mentality of the team, ridiculous to call him a flop.
This is so funny because Adam fucking Mckola was being the voice of reason 😂😂😂
Ramsdale is in top tier list. If Arteta didn't choose to sign another keeper then these guys wouldn't even be having the conversations they were having.
Full of contradictions, this. Poor management overplaying Martinelli/Saka (which it is) but then claiming it makes no sense to have signed Jorginho last season when it was clear as day that it was as cover.
Sweeping generalisations throughout, one rule being applied to one scenario and then disregarded in the other. Completely ignoring the fact that many of the early signings were made as stopgaps during a transition from a struggling side into a team full of youngsters. Context is key to a lot of these signings.
If you can’t make an objective observation and remove your bias from a discussion such as this, don’t make the video.
this is the sort of video you record, watch back and put in the bin
I think when you look at the signings now, of course alot havent worked but obviously arsenal as a team have progressed past some of these players. At the time, they suited the level but once it elevates then they become not good enough.
Happened with alot of signings from klopp at liverpool also
mate u hit it spot on. Sambi vieira were a victime of us moving too fast. I think vieira would still be top imo. Get off these idiots channels
There is no chance in hell that Jesus gets into the Liverpool team
Jota is a better finisher, Gakpo is at least similar in terms of link-up play, Salah is Salah, Diaz is more effective as a winger, and Nunez is one of the most dangerous players in the league
What a relevant current topic to discuss.... Well done
Starting the video off bias. He's only won one trophy is not true. FA Cup 2020, Community Shield 2020, Community Shield 2023. Before you comment the Community Shield doesn't count. The Community Shield is the equivalent to the Super Copa in Spain.
Even with Partey being injured, in the game vs City, he lobbed a perfect ball onto Tomiyasu during the buildup to the goal.
2 title races. How many other managers have been in title races in the past few seasons? It's been a klopp pep duopoly for years. Arteta has broken that. Give that some respect
Turner did have a clean sheet against England in this last World Cup 💀
Not having an Arsenal fan for some balance was mad.
The Real List:
Perfect: Rice, Jesus, Gabriel, Odegaard, White
Does (or Did) The Job: Ramsdale, Turner, Partey, Tomiyasu, Trossard, Jorginho, Kiwior, Zinchenko, Ceballos
Jury's Out: Havertz, Timber, Raya, Fabio Vieira, Lokonga, Nuno Tavares.
Big Mistake: Mari, Cedric, Willian
Your list is infinitely better than theirs, but my tweaks would be:
Perfect: Rice, Gabriel, Odegaard, White, Partey, Trossard
Does (or Did) The Job: Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, Jorginho, Kiwior, Zinchenko, Ceballos, Havertz, Jesus
Jury's Out: Timber, Raya, Fabio Vieira, Turner
Big Mistake: Mari, Cedric, Willian, Lokonga, Nuno Tavares
Reasoning: Lokonga and Tavares just didn't work out, basically immediately, so big mistake for me. Havertz (now 2 weeks after your post) is 10 goal contributions and is doing the job. Jesus, I think does the job, brings lots of players in and works super hard, but I think most of us want a 25-30 goal per season striker fed by Rice and Odegaard. Partey, I think is perfect, he's just regularly injured. Coming to the end of his time with us I'd imagine, I'd look to replace with Douglas Luiz, maybe. Trossard as perfect because he gets so many clutch goals for us and for so cheap, he's just brilliant!
@danhodson7187 Douglas Luiz also my number 1 replacement. We should've gone harder summer 2022 when he only had a year left. £25m late bid was never enough. Villa will understandably want 2-3 times that now.
@@matthewmillington-king1529 100% mate. They will look at us spending £100mil on Rice and Chelsea spending £100mil on Caicedo and believe (probably rightly) that they can expect the same for him. I can only assume is low-balling for him in 2022 was for FFP budgetary reasons. If they really believe he’s worth having and could afford then I think they would’ve done it. Maybe Zubamendi is the new budget friendly replacement?
Redemption arc for Kai 😂 Rory punching air fuming at him now
You guys are being too harsh on Ramsdale. Sure he's had his bad moments, but what player hasn't? Everyone has their ups and downs. It's football. Why not focus on Ramsdale's good moments as well? Here are a few examples: He saved us a point at Anfield in the 22/23 season with unbelievable saves towards the end of the game, he made an astonshing save from a James Maddison free-kick in the 21/22 season if I remember correctly, he made a crucial save in the Bournemouth game in the first half when we won 3-2 in the last minute of the game thanks to a Reiss Nelson winner and more. These are just a few examples that came into my mind. Ramsdale is definitely a very good goalkeeper and he's improved us a lot. I just feel really bad at how it turned out for him this season with Raya coming in.
The amount of nonsense in this discussion. You need one Arsenal fan
These guys actually get paid and on TV too. I'm shocked.