BMW M4 vs Audi RS5: epic track battle
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2014
- We test the BMW M4 against the benchmark setting fast coupe, the Audi RS5.
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The arrival of a new BMW M car is always big news for performance car fans, and the new M4 is no exception.
Costing almost £60,000, the replacement for the legendary old BMW M3, the M4 has moved away from the V8 power plant in the old car, and is now powered by a 425bhp twin-turbocharged straight-six engine.
Meanwhile, the similarly prices Audi RS5 is propelled by a 4.0-litre V8, which produces 430bhp. It's also mated to the Audi quattro four-wheel drive system. Like the BMW, it also features a dual-clutch gearbox, the Audi S tronic system.
There's no denying the Audi lacks the fun factor of the BMW - the quattro four-wheel-drive system prevents the lurid powerslides than you can really go for in the M4. You can also feel the weight of the engine over the front axle in the RS5, but it certainly doesn't feel slow at all.
Overall then, the RS5 feels very punchy, and the gearshift is also really nice - the same can be said for its V8 soundtrack. It's not a track machine though, and the car from Neckarsulm is more of a very stable and very rapid cruiser.
Meanwhile, the BMW M4 feels very raw and very serious, especially when all the settings are put at their sportiest via the M1 switch on the steering wheel. These also turn the traction control and stability control off.
With no electronic aids, the M4 is always trying to get its tail out. However, the body control is amazing, but there is a feeling that it's all a bit artificial. The same can be said for the engine note, which has been enhanced.
The M4 is a proper M car though, and something BMW can be truly proud of. It set a lap time of 1m09.9s, compared to the 1m12.2s set by the Audi - that's 2.3s quicker. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
It's funny cause you will never see an actual owner of one of these cars arguing like the people in the comments
Lol forreal
+lap le (lapleisanub) you mean a Honda lol!!
Very true...I used to own a BMW,now I'm owner of a AUDI.I love both brands,i have friends with BMW and we never argue which is better.The truth is most people in the comments doesn't even have a car/are kids/are just blind fanboys.
Old thread but I agree. I have an RS5, but I absolutely love the M4. The ONLY reason I got the RS5 is because I felt it was a better overall car in sun, rain, snow, dirt, leaves, mud, cold, etc. My decision wasn't based on track performance at all. I love both but am happy with my choice.
I am and I do, I own an M4 cp lci manual. It's an amazingly brutal car, I love it.
The RS5 is the safer car to go fast on the autobahn. It can cope with snow, rain and mud. The M4 is sexy and more fun to drive around corners and on race tracks.
These are two completely different approaches/philosophies.
yeah, for that reason I will have rs5
The M4 will cope with snow, rain and mud. It is all about who's behind the wheel. AWD is for old and boring people.
+ZeroPie HD i agree with you! On RWD you feel the power, And you just overtake all the AWD's Fappers
Good critical analysis. I give you 3 point lol.
Both cars are nice to have but m4 is just faster and more fun, so I will take the RS5...
...because m4's are everywhere.
You're all getting impressed by the M4 but i'm getting impressed by the driver who pushes an M4 as hard as it can on tight corners with all that torque and traction control off without loosing the rear end so much.
Pagana agree. My tuned 520BHP F80 M3 sometimes lose its rear wheel traction , when full throating even more than 100Mile/h on the straight road
99.9 percent of the people commenting here will get a miles better track time in the rs5 regardless which car they like .... or end out in the toolies trying to get a good time in the m4
I recently picked up a 2013 RS5. Perfect combination of sporty and luxurious. You don’t recognize it as a “sports car” at first. But when you hit the gas, hear that naturally aspirated V8 open up and the spoiler pop up, you see the beast lurking underneath that finely tailored suit.
I just got a 2013 RS5 a little over a month ago and I couldn't agree more. It may not be the fastest, but it looks and sounds fantastic.
Both cars are great but.... What's the camera car? Because from the looks of things it runs with both! Ha.
Shabec2982 We just get Mat Watson to run around the track with the camera-person on his back.
+Auto Express
On a completey unrelated note, which wristwatch is Owen wearing in the review. Will appreciate a response. :)
must be GTR
+Art Vandelay OH GOD NOT AGAIN
+Auto Express guys come on give the camera car some credit and let us know what is it?
both of these cars are monsters
Since I'm the type of person who rarely goes to the track anyway, the RS5 would be the perfect car for me. It's so good around town and it's gorgeous. The M4 looks great, it really does, but I've always had a thing for the Audi 5's, especially the RS5.
Thats exactly the point thousands here are missing... personally I have never seen any one going to the shops drifting! Hence its luxury 4 AWD GT car for me too.
Dmitri Felbinger Yup!
Dmitri Felbinger If you dont care about ultimate performance why even buy a car in this class? If you just care about vanity and "around town" driving just get an S5 and save 30K lol. Regardless the M4 blends top track performance with real world practicality unlike any other car in this class.
M5v8twinturbo
Very well said sir!
M5v8twinturbo
Nobody here gives a flying fuck about your dumbass opinions, please leave this comment section.
Simply an astonishing car... the M4 is a sick BEAST... I love it.
I hope we meet it then :)
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It is likely to rust though, like an Alfa Romeo of yesteryear.
DoctaM3 そ
the rs5 is gorgeous
"powerslides" Lets see how interesting they are in the real world, when it is raining, icy, etc and there are cars coming the other way.
Who turns off traction control on ice/rain/snow and who power slides in traffic? Feels kinda stupid.
Pontus Andersson
Its RWD only for the BMW.
Hans Blitz Yeah but who turns off the esp? you know what's that?
***** Do I know what that is you mean?
Yes, stability control. It won't stop someone from wrecking if there are other cars on the road and they're power-sliding.
That is only for the track, and a 1 driver track at that.
Hans Blitz Trust me, those stabili controls used in bmw, mercedes etc. does not allow you to powerslide at all.
They immediatly cut the throlle if the car starts slipping and engage brakes if needed.
Not gonna lie, Im an Audi fanboy and would take the rs5 over anything but that bimmer is beautiful, looks and sounds fun. so credit where credits due.
noo the rs5 is the most beautiful car ive ever seen. id even take it over an r8 literally perfectly styled gorgeous. they do complement each other well though would love both the rs5 and m4 haha
i like both cars but personally i'd buy the M4
c63s coupe
Im trying to pick between e92 m3 comp pack or b8.5 rs5.. Both awsome n/a high reving v8s..
EastOaklandS65Feen For me I’d go for the RS5 now simply for the fact that the M3’s are having lots of bearing issues as they get older. The engines are ticking time bombs
i like both but personally i will buy the rs5
Remember that time BMW made the M3 for six years straight without ever acknowledging that it would likely have catastrophic engine failure due to worn rod bearings? That was awesome.
You forgot other spicy engine parts that go kaboom:
- Exhaust Cam Vanos Sprocket tabs
- Exhaust Cam Sprocket Bolts
- Chain tensioners breaking
- Headgasket failure
Then you have infamous rear carrier panel that breaks away from the chassis, rear diff clunk from LSD...
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Remember when Audi sold an RS4 with soft rims that deformed over small bumps? I could find problems with every car manufacturer.
@@beastofackworth Wheels are an easy problem to solve. Critical parts of a chassis like the rear subframe carrier plate or critical engine parts are another thing. They could've done a better job.
@@beastofackworth 2013-2015 RS5 has the R8 engine V10 with 2 less cylinders. there are same parts numbers all over the block. so the block was made to do crazy V10 stuff while only doing V8 work in the RS5. it became bulletproof with essentially over engineered internals. most other manufacturers need at least 6L of displacement to make 450whp, while Audi does it with only 4.2L. plus this comparison is RWD versus AWD so not exactly apples to apples.
@@drywater3559 BMW had been making naturally-aspirated M cars with over 100bhp/litre since the 90s. It's nothing new. And Audi V8s are far from bullet-proof; they're known for timing chain issues for a start.
I've owned both I sold my rs5 to get the m4 comp both cars are great in there own way I prefer the bmw in the end it just comes down to preference but both cars are great
dat v8 note doe. sounds even more monster with capristo system.
Did you notice how the sound of the M4 is almost identical inside the car to a real V8 while outside is clear a turbo car?
i think BMW uses a technique where there pump fake noises to the in car speaker make it sounds nice and sounded different at the outside. sorry for my poor english though :/
JeremyLoveTech123
Yeah they do. I don't know why, but they did it in all the new "M" cars. I'm very sad about it, but bottom line is that the Performance is what matters and what you are paying for. And in this case is clearly worth every penny.
Mildenhall's videos are always enjoyable. The driving seems intense and yet the corner by corner commentary seems precise and effortless. Very nicely done!
I was close to buying the RS5 - Audi makes awesome machinery. However, the ability to extract more fun out of it via tuning, really kept me from the final purchase. Once I was in the M4 I felt at home - especially since I traded an e60 M5 for it. Now with an MHD flash tune there's no comparison.
Even though I'm a BMW fan, but the Audi sounds better
you dont need to be an audi fan to notice that
That's the point captain obvious
analanalyst
There's a little company named Akrapovic that will put your opinion back in the right place :)
You know that's the one thing I can't get over is the sound but give it 6 months or whatever and some aftermarket exhuast will make it sound great I mean lol at some f10 m5 with like catless exhuast and they sound ridiculous
lol @ people arguing what sounds better. Its subjective.
I think that the new BMW line is a big leap forward in looks! The new Bimmers are so beautiful!
but not as much as that rs5 😍
The audi RS5 is 6 years old. 2secs is a fair loss for the RS5 because it's older. But the RS5 is better looking and sounds brutal and who knows what's the knew RS5 is going to be like. BMW fell SCARED!!!!, AUDI is taking this one. #audifanboy
Taking this one? It clearly just lost fanboy.
Not a fanboy. Do you even know what a fanboy is
Your name has fanboy in it and you also put #audifanboy. Look I know it's hard to not be fucking stupid, but it's okay. You're a fanboy, that explains it all.
RS5 came out in 2010...its 4 years old. Plus that didnt stop people from comparing the 2010 RS5 with the 2007 E92 M3 when the RS5 came out....how is this different? Also the RS5 barely matched the old M3 when it came out..Audi didn't raise the bar, despite having 3 extra years to develop. The M4 upped the bar big time its a lot faster, more efficient, while only having 11 more hp than the last version, and still less than the Audi.
I can clearly see that you lack in vocabulary, I own a RS7 and I like the car that's why it's my profile. So don't try to keep you like a #### because my in eyes you just another attention seeker. Get a life.
people who own either are happy with either, people who don't argue which one is better on youtube.
If this Audi is "trash" like so many of you in the comments are saying, you're not a car enthusiast, but rather a BMW enthusiast.
THANK YOU
Same goes for Audi fans trashtalking BMW.
just dont like how audi goes, awd is nothing
AWD is nothing quote of the year
There will always be that BMW and Audi rivalry.
THE RS 5 IS MOORE STABILITY THAN M4,I SEE M4 ON THE TRACK ONLY DRIFFTING AND I THINK THE M4 IS DANGEROUS FOR DRIVING FAST ON THE STREET,RS 5 IS BETTER
on the track M4 all the way, on real life driving, RS5, no doubt, its just a more complete car.
nah
+NightBot Ban yah
nah
+Eli Palacios yah
+Eli Palacios YEAH !
Love how he can describe what the car is behaving like under a corner, he's pretty good
In the "normal" World, at the "normal" Road, in the "normal" traffic, who is going always sideways? Who is burning his Wheels every Day? Who buys every Week two Sets of Tires? ..... Nobody!
Yeah but in a 'normal' world with 'normal' traffic who would buy a M or a RS??
Maybe People witch are looking for something "different". Drivers who want's to drive the little "extra". ....
Peter Pan i do
Tom P I did
That's why I got an RS5 over the M4. Love them both but all wheel drive in the real world with 450 hp is a AWESOME. And it's a fine daily driver for me.
Sound clearly goes to the RS5. Listen to that engine!
Too bad it wasn't a sound contest it was a track match to see which PERFORMANCE car PERFORMED the BEST.
Some of you bimmer boys got to relax. I am so disappointed that you guys settle for whatever BMW builds you. Of course performance wise BMW is the best. What did you expect? Especially the RS5 is based on a chassis from 2007! However, the sound of the new M3/M4 is pissing me off because I have owned M cars most of my life for their performance AND sound because both combined equal fun.
Kaipeternicolas True. The M3 E92 sounded so much better! It is in fact the best M3 ever IMO. I never really liked the the sound of these BMW straight 6's....
Kaipeternicolas True. The M3 E92 sounded so much better! It is in fact the best M3 ever IMO. I never really liked the the sound of these BMW straight 6's....
Colin Cas Wow somebody feels attacked. You smartass are missing the point. Of course the 08 beat the RS5 too, no question. Why would you think I ever doubted that? You are just another youtube kid how it seems like... just trying to attack other people instead of having a job, working, making some money and actually buying these kind of cars. Have you ever owned an M car? How many M cars have you actually driven? Btw, if you quote someone, you write exactly as they said, and don't change "you" to "we".
Really good review!
Was the time all down to the carbon ceramic brakes?
Good Sir, you can drive. Thank you for putting out a review that accurately reflects what the manufacturers of these two wonderful cars intended them to be.
Actually this is like comparing a rolls royce to an s-class....different levels of luxury, the rs5 was not created to be thrown like a maniac around a track. What I can say is for the road Audi RS models are better than M's but on the track there is no doubt most of RS cars are slower than M's...So my advice for anyone who wants a car for the track and daily driving I think Audi RS cars are a good option and for those who have the money to have two cars than go for an RS for daily driving and an M for track.
If those were the actual lap shots/videos... What car was driving ahead of the M4 and the Rs5 filming them?
M4 all day.
even if the ausi was faster id still take the m4 for the looks
audi*
Have you watched te video? The m4 is faster dude.
i know im saying even if it was slower i would still rather have the m4 just for the looks
other way around the rs5 is gorgeous
@@BudleyBailey literally the other way around ill get an rs5 and modify it to perform a bit better for track use
The RS5 is the current class benchmark? What a joke.
yeah, c63 should be in my option
Yeah the RS5 is a league above
Love the video. Amazing 😂
Appreciate each for its own merits, they both do a great job in their sector
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Rs5 needs updating, still looks good, but same shape for years! M4 looks sexy as fuck! I would love both, but give me the m4 over the Audi
I share the exact same opinion;-)
+Jack Thorpe I'm afraid that look will still go on for sometime :/
+Jack Thorpe I like the look of the rs5 more.M4 is sexy as fuck,but audi is kinda menacing.
+Jack Thorpe I do like m4 design. Its more agressive. But audi is somehow agressive, yet elegant and yet also calm. Its a simple but mysterious design that my eye cannot process correctly.
Interior wise audi got a nice look, but outdated components (electrics)
Wish they finally give it more updated hardware and some nice extras
Great Video!
Ceramic brakes on the M4 is what made it so much faster around the track. If Tires and brakes were equated, I'd bet these two are REALLY close around a circuit.
Again the M4 is the winner, this car is almost perferct (i think you know why ALMOST :).
Can't wait to see it perform against the new C63 and the new RS4/RS5 !
c63 would be slower than rs5 on the track!
DICsquared The 507 and BS are here for that :)
Ummm it already did. They tested the M4 vs C63 AMG 507 and the MERC lost. Sorry.
Colin Cas I said it's faster than the RS5 not the M4 -_-"
Even if i love BMW those merc cars are pretty good. More like heavy kick-ass sedan, but still good.
I only have a little problem with Audi... Their cars and engine are goods, and AWD too but damn the expensive VW idea is weird !
Colin Cas The M4 is 6s slower than C63 AMG Black Series on nordschleife.
I suspect that new C AMG coupe will be evenly matched with a M4.
It is not fair to compare an old generation to a new one.
i'm normally a bmw fan but recently they have moved too far away from their essence (active tourer, front wheel drive, small turbo engines and other shit)…and also they've run out of new design ideas (except for i8)…this one goes to audi
I think you've never heard about the M235i
Kaisuke971 it's a glimmer of hope, but like i said, it's a dull, unimaginative design and why can't i just get a 225i straight six old school manual?
Wait so BMW makes one FWD car, so you prefer Audi....a company in which over 50% of their cars sold are FWD? LOL.. that makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah audi uses small turbo, and have NO new design ideas.
i was only saying i'd take the rs5 over the m4…maybee it came across in the wrong way. audi is shit overall, volkswagen for rich people^^ btw, next one series will be front-wd and three cylinder powered. i'd rather drive a nice smooth electric car than a three cylinder, wtf?
Charly Harper from Germany
# CYLINDERS + TURBO can reallyyyy surprise you my friend. And they only do this to compete with MERCEDES cla 450 amg. ALthough i am really not sure they will make a car with fwd.
looking forward to see this battle by topgear
Quality review, quality presenter, good stuff
I wonder how many try's it took took get the M to win. Look how hard he's fighting that car to get it around the track! He's barely pushing the Audi and only beats it by 2 seconds? You could tell by the tone of the film this guys a BMW fan.
And we can all tell you're a crybaby. Rule 1 in the Audi Fanboy Manual
Go play with your 2001 civic vtec booommmmm
Funny thing is the RS5 laps closer to the BMW M235i autoexpress tested than the M4!!
The RS5 is only 1.3 seconds faster then the BMW M235i, and the M4 is 2.3 faster than the RS5..
Just like Niki Lauda said...2.3 seconds faster ! Lol
does Anybody knows the Sound track used in this video ?
This man is the best reviewer ever!
Everyone goes on about saying Audi is more comfortable on the roads etc. If you want a car that is comfortable on the roads and relaxing, why would you buy one with a 4 litre V8?
The main bit that the RS5 loses out in this comparison is the torque, Audi is always going to be heavier because of their focus on quality and quattro drivetrain. But I think they will make it up with more torque.
Just remember, Audi has yet to show their hands since the A4 platform has not been updated since 2009.
Torque has nothing to do with it.
Quality? lol VW parts isn't quality
J Smith
and BMW is?
Observing further, the front heaviness of the Audi, higher curb weight, and longer stopping distances are what slowed it down, to produce a 2 second slower lap. All these factors contributed. The M4 is lighter, had ceramic brakes, more torque and better able to transition in the twisties.
I'm pretty sure Audi showed their hand with the understeering B8 RS4 released in 2012
Loved to see that again but in the snow or in the rain !
What is the watch on his hand?very classic looking
Isnt the RS5 old now? Pretty stupid test... Why not wait for the new C63 and RS5?
The most disappointing thing about the M4 IMO is the carbon brakes are an option ....and for $10k more???? and on an M CAR? Who the hell decided that? that's FKN evil!!
you don`t get ceramic brakes on the RS5 or AMG too and BMW has a little low price than the competitors i think it is priced well for what it is... It has a lot of improvements compared to E92 and has the same price ;)
I just want an M4 Gran Coupe :D or an M3 :) but the 4 Gran coupe looks a little better :D
Well, carbon ceramic brakes are very expensive. I think it's pretty abvious that a supercar technology doesn't cost you 2K, and it is not stock because it would raise the price. And the stock brakes are actually very good !
non carbon brakes brake as good, its the option for the track days fans...
Psst. carbon brakes are an expense option on the RS5 as well...in fact they do not come standard on any car under 200K.
M5v8twinturbo they do on the Camaro z28...But I understand, i get it; then you don't get luxuries like BMW, blah blah blah. I got the point everyone. lol thanks for the inputs! I just thought $10k was a little steep, that's just me.
Love watching this guy drive - like a boss.
Love both but I'll lean towards the M4. I'm getting the M3 though! So excited!
i really see no point arguing which car make is better , audi, bmw and benz since in all honesty they are all really all nice to drive. All the good things about German engineering can not all be defined by a single brand. each of these german automakers have their niche that suits peoples' different needs. there are some things Audi's does better than BMW and vice versa, For example Audi's steering is just to awkward for some, and the Benz reputation for comfort, especially in the s-class is undeniably the best (of course this is up for debate) but this is just how some people feel. what im trying to say is that these 3 automakers are the bench markers for the auto industry and when you claim one of the german brand is far superior than the rest of the german automakers , your argument is not really valid
Audi RS5 is a beast!
What car do they use to film the car from the front?
Background of the host? Nice review
But people who actually buy one of these, aren't gonna bother with videos like this, they don't look at numbers or equipment and such, they already have a preferred choice. Like me, I'd go for an Audi any day, no questions asked.
Of course the BMW wins OF COURSE
+NightBot Ban M POWER FTW!
Bmw doesn't make supercars like Audi and Mercedes, but they do make great sports cars.
JJM Gaming but please keep in mind, BMW ever made a naturally aspirated engine for hypercar which is legendary in 1992-1999. The car was much stronger than supercar ever made by the audi and mercedes until today.
+Hendra Di Yup MCLAREN F1
+NightBot Ban
Because it is a lighter car and is not really comparable to the RS5.
What car was the leading camera car...?
Great video makes me miss my bmw
Try taking the family out on a rainy day in the bMW. If you love them,dont.
The Audi feels safe in pouring rain and damp roundabouts the BMW scares the crap out of you same as the C63
That's what I love about my M4 😂
It feels like a monster that you gotta respect otherwise you're dead.
Objectively that's a bad thing but emotionally it's great
Why would you be driving fast with ur family in the car when it’s raining?
@Suryateja GT so you prefer to buy an audi because u can drive fast in the rain? Congratz for you.
Everyone is free to like everything they want, but trashtalking about bmw's in the rain meh, that's sad
Audi fan boys are going to start crying and complaining now...
They talk about the sound of the M4 but i can spend a full day speaking about the bad sides of the RS5
Kaisuke971 I can spend a week to talk about the badside of m4. Because other than track, nothing else on the M4 could win the RS5
Kaisuke971 I have spent half a year about choosing between RS5, and M4, And if you really want to know, let me know.
Huang Xingchen The M4 is more economical, more comfortable, nicer to drive, has better feel, has more usable performance, more reliable, better looking, nimbler, faster and full of technology. Apart from the video we say, and those small bits that I have mentioned, the RS5 is better. No it's not!!!!
agreed
The M4's biggest advantage is that it is (more or less) 300 kilos lighter. The presenter only mentioned that the roof is carbon fibre. The car however has other parts made of that material, as structural beams of the roof, the transmission prop shaft, and others. The rear glass is thinner than normal, the boot lid is made from special thermo-plastic, the suspension all-round is made from special aluminium. And so you end up with a 2-wheel drive car being (almost) *three seconds* faster than a 4-wheel drive car, exactly because you have far less mass and therefore far smaller centrifugal forces to battle around bends.
yup... pretty simple and correct explanation
For the people saying that he was 'drifting the car', and 'whats the camera car' on the hot lap you need to keep in mind that usually the lap they show is not the actual lap they timed. Most of the channels actually just piece bits together to make a better video.
Reading Autocar magazine when they did the drag race between 918 vs P1 vs Bike, even that was just filmed for effect after they ran each vehicle separately and timed them.
The results are accurate though and personally i think this guy is one of the better drivers in terms of getting the most out of the cars they test.
I'll take the M4 anyday.. much more a drivers car than the Audi.
Both are great cars, I would take the M4 because I like the M cars. but then again, Supra is my dream car, so Turbo, 3 litre straight sixes, turbos and RWD.. Everything that Audi lacks.
+NickoSupra Why would you ever want a turbo when you can have large displacement and throttle response? I have a 2.5 N/a alfa and a 2.5 Turbo Subaru and the engine in the Alfa is just so much more enjoyable to drive. I love the Subaru and it is faster than the Alfa but turbos definitely dont add to the fun. Id take an N/A car over a Turbo anyday if the power is comparable.
The tyres on each are?
Ahaha M power! I knew i this m4 was going to be crazy! Lovee it, great review
BMW, the best or nothing. HAA
phil haris BMW is overrated
you're overrated, audi is trash just like you
phil haris You can't have a normal conversation anymore, i was just saying my opinion. Your parrents must be proud at you.
And my opinion was also given, I'm proud AT you for giving your opinion as well. Ultimate Driving Machine>
phil haris then don't act childish and don't insult people.
The perfect car would be the M4 with the RS5 engine... Those sounds pumped from the speakers in the M4 sound so sythetic...
Don't make a confusion between engine and sound. With the RS5 engine it would have been heavier, less powerfull, with less torque... So pretty much a worse car.
It's pretty good IMO and i think that in real life the sound is different. A lot of people say that since they have driven the car they know that the sound is not a that big issue.
Also you can change the exhaust and disable the Active sound...
+1, that engine is the only thing i like about audi. 8500rpm ftw!
Kaisuke971 Not nececeraly... The fact that the M4 is a 3 liter doesn't mean is lighter than a 4 liter V8. A inline turbo 6, not only has the extra weight of the aditional turbo, but also the components atached to it like piping, intercooler, stronger exhaust, bov, etc. But also the block and the internals have to deal with more torque, therefore need to be stronger, therefore heavier.
That's why a LSX conversion in RX-7 has been so popular in RX-7, the whole 5.7 or 6.2 NA V8 weight almost the same as the stock twinturbo wankel engine, and everybody knows that the wankel engines are the lightest car engines in the world... Is the turbocharged part that adds weight.
the Famous 2JZ and Rb26 are very heavy engines, but they are very very strong.
lexus LFA engine, is a V10, has the size of a V8, and the weight of a V6, and makes 560hp. and probably the engine alone costs more than the entire M4 :p
You realize that less than 5% of the sound in the cabin is synthetic? Which means over 95% is natural. Fact.
Jonny Oliveira Well its funny you say that because its actually substantially lighter being that the s65 in the e92 was lighter than Audis 4 liter v8 and this Turboed I6 is even lighter than the s65.................
This video makes it even harder for me to choose one of this cars i like both but I don’t know which one to get i currently have 2018 c63 amg coupe i love it but i want another car to line them up
What's the name of the intro song?
m4 sounds meh... its a lighter faster more agile car on tracks I miss their v8 m3. Audi is the more realistic car to drive everyday with that awesome V8, that extra weight means extra comfort.
love cruising in the city and highway on a v8. drifting is a plus but not necessary, tracks are fun twice a year.
I'll go with the RS5.
According to other comparisons, the M4 also offers more comfort than the RS5
MrBiohazard878 anyway...the m4 engine sounds shitty and the consumption is higher. they tested both on a german car magazin. how is it possoble that a 200 lighter car need more fuel than a 1,2l bigger engine with two pistons more? plus the 4.2 v8 is so old the inline 6 t is brand new
MrBiohazard878 bmw cant built turbo engines! Benz and AUdi do it much better. only the NA engines of BMW are the best
jojajo2707 if you buy this car and you think about 1,2l more, you’re sick.
I would still buy the Audi RS5. Audi looks are much better and I really like Audi.
FreedomWarrior After thinking I doubt that M4 is faster than the Audi rs5 which has 4WD. The guy can't just drive Audi properly.
+FreedomWarrior have you driven any of these car to know which is better. Because your avi looks like you don't even have a drivers license
Supreme Etnel
avi? Sorry I only speak two languages and one of them is english.
I have a drivers license for 9 years and no I never driven any of those cars. The audi rs5 just because is 4WD it's faster than the m4 in any road conditions. Perhaps only in dry tarmac road the m4 can be faster...
+FreedomWarrior No, Audi has shitth balance and lot of understeer. BMW i just a better car in this case
Hea Mees
Ok, I buy that. But because Audi has 4WD it is faster in bad road conditions.
the only reason people say the M4 is ugly is because its constantly shown in austin yellow. look up this car in yas marina blue or sakhir orange and you cant deny it looks much better! the rs5 is just another audi imo and 2 seconds on a short course like that is a huge amount to lose by
What's the camera car?
Remember the M4 sounds like a Prius.
Don't be silly. Look up m4 performance exhaust. Sounds 1000 times better in person
Don't be butt hurt because your Volkswagen lost
O J hahahahahahaha good one hahahahahaha
cmorales2831 How much does the Performance exhaust cost? I fancy an M3 with one
O J You are so ignorante and so pathetic... OMFG " your vw lost"
Do even know the history of audi? and why they are in a group? and where audi engines come??? Go to offial websites of Audi www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/audi-innovation/heritage/iconic-cars/audi-80.html Read that and click on engine ! Good luck
I MAY be able to live with a turbo M-car, but i'd never accept that HORRIBLE in-car noise. i can't even imagine who made them buy that idea.
For me the Audi is the car. It looks better to me, it certainly sounds a hell of a lot better, and - in real world use - the four wheel drive must be a huge bonus.
..i can't believe i lived to see a day where a BMW M-car sounds like a computergame inside. So much fail.....
Yeah I do agree but all car manufacturers are starting to use fake noise sounds through the speakers. We just have to get used to it
J.C VenomDrifter Wonna bet that they'd stop throwing that bullshit in their cars, if people stopped buying them?;-)
I'm the customer, not a sheep. I carry more power than them. That is.. i could be powereful. Sadly the majority of customers out there ARE sheep, handing the power right back to them.
Changing this would be easy, just like getting a decent political system would be easy, if only people actually cared. Sadly they don't so in the end you're right. Guess we'll have to learn to live with it. In my case: the day i'm forced to buy such a shitbox, i'll do whatever's needed to get rid of the fake sound. It's way to pathetic for me to live with :)
Yeah same here. I bet the new M4 convertible won't be as bad since you can here the exhausts much more. Looks so damn sexy :D
Well let's hope :)
J.C VenomDrifter Roof that goes away wil def. help..i hope :)
Anyone knows a song that starts at 0:56 and lasts till 1:55 ?
But why m4 isn't a competition package or csl package?
M4 ever!
Still prefer my M3 E92 to that artificial M4.
The RS 5 looked like a heavy sloppy mess on this track compared to the M4. I was really surprised to see the time differences being roughly under 3 seconds apart from each other.
3 sec on such a short track is eternity
anybody knows the track in the begining ?
I would like to see someone else driving all 3 cars and then compare the times. Just by looking at how he drove the car, it csn be driven faster.
Yes he was driving like a maniac, but his official lap was neat and tidy which accounted for the times.
Coolin , it would be really emberassing if bmw losts against 6 years old car.You have to realize that M4 is absolutly new car so wait to 2016 audi rs5 and we will see who is going to win. And if you look at race battle between RS5 and old M3 you can see that audi clearly wins even against C63
Adam Dymovský
No my friend. I disagree! Both cars on this video are 2015. So is the C63 507 edition that lost to M4 as well. And i don't care which car is faster on the 1/4 mile. I care about the performance overall. And so far BMW has been doing great job.
Colin Cas Unless you drive in snow!!!
Colin Cas It is an interesting point that almost exclusively fast BMW's are tested against what is perceived as their direct competitors on the track. This is to accentuate the rear wheel drift that is undeniably a predominant characteristic, particularly so in the powerful M cars. This of course is relatively safe and some would say "good Fun" on a closed track but in the real world and all around driving conditions, I would argue that the propensity to "Tail Out" is very undesirable. My point is that a fast M would struggle to stay with its equal and opposite RS point to point across countries. Even the brand new and impressive M4 would struggle against the undeniably long in the tooth RS5 in a real world race. I watched a Nissan GTR one of the fastest most agile and technically capable cars available today and easily capable of bettering any M Car on or off the track, being unable to shake off an RS6 Avant in a real world varied road conditions test. It was also noticeable that the RS6 driver seemed to understand that driving a fast 4 wheel drive car requires a different discipline to what is required in a fast rear wheel drive. Using late braking, balancing the car on throttle mid corner and then using the Quattro and the V8TFSI to sling shot early out of the corner. You cannot set up the BMW in that way and getting on the power early in normal road conditions would inevitably induce either a lurid tail drift or the electronics would interfere and kill the power and the so called fun with it but somehow I think the average Joe would rather get his beloved Beemer home in one piece than have it drift into the nearest ditch or worse into he oncoming articulated 40 tonner, which of course would never appear on a track.
audi kids crying.
I don't think a single lap is enough to establish which is faster. Brake a second earlier or get on the throttle a second later or any other driver error will effect a lap time, you would need 3 or 4 good laps and take the best time, maybe even with different drivers.
Whats the name of the song at the beginning?
If you want a car that fishtails all over the road, get an M4.
If you want a car that grips and hugs the road like a car should...RS5 ;-)
BMW M4 SUPER.
I really wanted to get the m3 but went with the isf, I just wish the bmw were little reliable and want to see a review of m4 vs rcf when it's out. but that m4 looks and performs great.
Watch it with the subtitles. At 1:20 subtitles tells everything. That sound is "LOVE"...
The M4 makes me even more excited for the M2
BMW M4 easily wins
It has ceramic brakes and that is what gives BMW the win
ferrarieustratios Not to mention the better weight ratio and the better balance of the weight in the car ^^ hahaha
ferrarieustratios BMW is a benchmark for drivers car, no doubt. they're should be compete to any Porsche line up.
M4 vs 911
M3 vs Cayman
Z4 vs Boxster
M5/M6 Grandcoupe vs Panamera
X5 M vs Cayenne Turbo S
both are is the best for drivers car,
BMW & Porsche FTW.
You are totally right! All the other dickheads who are audi fanboys: BMW beats Audi. I don't know if you reckoned, but the Audi is more expensive than the BMW and the BMW wins over the Audi. And it also looks better.
i am not fan of any cars, i love bmw more , but this is the truth: quattro is more powerful and succesfull than xdrive guys, bmw has fastest city cars this is the truth. but in real race, there is no differents at cars about horse powers. Because of these in real race audi is more succesfull i think because quattro is better. And trust me guys, i am not fan audi and bmw. But i like more bmw. (Sorry for bad english)
Perfect video for a day
Can anyone explain why the M4 seats don't have adjustable knee support, whereas the 435i sportseats do have adjustable knee support? This adjustable knee support is extremely handy.
They were removed for weight savings. For what its worth, the seats are still really good even without them. Also, the M4 vert still has the thigh extenders.