Bee Movie: The End of Trash | Big Joel

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  • čas přidán 26. 04. 2019
  • I talk about bee movie!! We have fun talking about bee movie! The final video in the trash era of dreamworks trilogy.
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  • @MsDefectiveToaster
    @MsDefectiveToaster Před 4 lety +1827

    I wanna point out that plenty of bees in this movie wear normal shirts except Barry, who wears a sweater with his own stripes printed on it. This implies that Barry is wearing the equivalent of those t shirts with a buff torso or a bikini body on it.

    • @royalblanket
      @royalblanket Před 2 lety +202

      And his entire closet is filled with those types of shirts

    • @sidhackney8831
      @sidhackney8831 Před 2 lety +188

      @@royalblanket What a blinding red flag someone who ONLY owns buff body T shirts would be

    • @TheRealNTM
      @TheRealNTM Před 2 lety +53

      No, I see it more as wearing a Peach-colored shirt. Sure, it's mildly confusable for flesh tones (Well, for white-skinned humans, anyways), but it's not really the same.

    • @myboy_
      @myboy_ Před 2 lety +9

      Literally all of the bees wear stripes besides the drill sargeant

    • @RethinkRetro1
      @RethinkRetro1 Před rokem +2

      You are a true scholar my friend

  • @peterdumpel5729
    @peterdumpel5729 Před 5 lety +5128

    'Really, this musclebaby is not powerful - atl all. Rather, he's clinging to a sense of power that has already escaped him. This bee ... is cucking him.'
    Those might be the greatest three sentences uttered by mankind.

    • @qarsiseer
      @qarsiseer Před 5 lety +81

      12:11

    • @KEKrato
      @KEKrato Před 4 lety +192

      "He's getting with his girlfriend and inserting himself into"
      me: oh no
      "...his life"
      me: oh ok

    • @d.o.m.i.
      @d.o.m.i. Před 2 lety +7

      i burst out laughing in the middle of the street

    • @Jamushu
      @Jamushu Před 2 lety +25

      Bee Movie will always be an ICONIC Fever Dream because of these three lines.
      *_CUCKED BY A BEE. IT'S HIP TO FUCK BEES._*

    • @victoryjamz
      @victoryjamz Před rokem +2

      ❗350 original sentences remain.

  • @Himewna
    @Himewna Před 5 lety +4814

    that awkward moment when you try to make a movie about bees and accidentally make a marxist text about worker exploitation......featuring bees

    • @bluishwolf
      @bluishwolf Před 5 lety +217

      Bee movie wasn't supposed to be a movie about bees, it was supposed to be a movie about B movie plots.

    • @verlassent5684
      @verlassent5684 Před 5 lety +50

      I bee what you did there

    • @userfriendly2737
      @userfriendly2737 Před 5 lety +21

      bluishwolf how beetiful.

    • @PS-dm1dq
      @PS-dm1dq Před 5 lety +99

      Um, yeah. "Accidentally." Sure. He "accidentally" marxed it up 😂

    • @Lycaon1765
      @Lycaon1765 Před 5 lety +12

      **veganism

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 Před 5 lety +3831

    Bee Movie, but every time someone says “bee”, Big Joel explains how the movie explores stuff.

    • @Felixiroflife28
      @Felixiroflife28 Před 5 lety +44

      Jimmy Seaver Have you seen the Ideas Channel video? It’s like 12 hours long and it’s literally that 😂

    • @karpsplash6458
      @karpsplash6458 Před 5 lety +90

      The Bee Movie is 95 minutes long and the word bee is said 173 times, if we multiply 173 with Big Joel's video length of 25.10 and the films running time of 95 minutes we get 4,437.30 minutes in run time and dividing 4,437.30 by 60 (an hour) we get a total run time in hours of 73.95!

    • @b.parker1740
      @b.parker1740 Před 5 lety +30

      Dreamworks, but the further down the trash trilogy Joel gets, the more he becomes like Jordan Peterson.

    • @akirakirawabushi7019
      @akirakirawabushi7019 Před 5 lety +8

      @@b.parker1740 well good luck with that! *cry on webcam*

    • @hippocrates1297
      @hippocrates1297 Před 5 lety +38

      Bruce Parker Jordan Bee Peterson?

  • @zeetweet
    @zeetweet Před 5 lety +1817

    "the most iconic scene in the movie"
    completely overlooking "YA LIKE JAZZ", i'm disappointed

    • @PhoenixRoseYT
      @PhoenixRoseYT Před 5 lety +13

      Jemmy Weens I KNOWWWW

    • @tobeyorconsequences9544
      @tobeyorconsequences9544 Před 4 lety +34

      I saw a bumper sticker that had Barry with the words, "You like Jazz?"

    • @spookyho5994
      @spookyho5994 Před 4 lety +2

      Yessss

    • @FraserSouris
      @FraserSouris Před 3 lety +7

      That's not really a great scene. It's a meme sure but aside from that it has no value. That's like saying the most iconic scene in The Dark Knight is "tangerines"

    • @cayleece7890
      @cayleece7890 Před 2 lety

      LOL yes, and the intro too! 😆

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach Před 5 lety +1769

    I think you miss a thing about Adam the bee talked about around 19:30. Adam is middle class. Within capitalist societies you get people who are working class in the sense that they are exploited in the capitalist mode of production, but are provided enough material wealth to see themselves as benefiting from the system. Think of well paid workers like doctors and engineers. The middle classes have a tendency to support the capitalist system despite the fact that they are exploited by it, which Adam seems to be doing. It's not a position that makes "no sense from any perspective", it's about the most common political position held by people in the US, after all. But the way middle class politics is complicit in and (perceives itself to) benefit from class oppression *is* antithetical to the revolutionary goals of the protagonist, as to any revolutionary politics in real life, and the point of Adam is to show this opposition.

    • @mikaismay
      @mikaismay Před 5 lety +115

      I came into the comments looking for this exact reply. I was expecting him to go into this, but it was a missed analysis.

    • @shaddonon
      @shaddonon Před 5 lety +80

      Well said! The role of the middle class is a (ahem) rich enough subject that it could easily warrant dedicated examination. For that matter, these Dreamworks vids could act as a great primer for a larger series, where +BigJoel explores other, more "nuanced" power structures like education, law enforcement, religion etc. Ideally (as with all things) through the lens of Sinistar, but trash movies works too.

    • @montecristo1845
      @montecristo1845 Před 5 lety +135

      Yes! I believe it was George Carlin who said: the rich do none of the work, pay none of the taxes; the middle class do all of the work, pay all of the taxes; and the poor are there to scare the shit out of the middle class.

    • @fabianavalentino6304
      @fabianavalentino6304 Před 4 lety +27

      I really like Joel, but I think this is a common trend in their videos. They are almost perfect but they always miss something that, funnily, matches his view entirely. I think this could be because either a) he doesn't want to give a reading that isn't self sustained (unlikely, given he js, after all, an essayist), or b) he needs someone to give a second read to his scripts.
      Or maybe he should give it a rest to their scripts and edit it, but that's implying he doesn't do it already, and I don't want to assume that.

    • @fabianavalentino6304
      @fabianavalentino6304 Před 4 lety +11

      With miss I don't mean he doesn't mention it (I would never peg an essayist wrong for just not mentioning something I want) I mean it exactly like in this video, he mentions something and says it doesn't make sense, even when it really does if you just change the focus a bit.

  • @Ivytheherbert
    @Ivytheherbert Před 3 lety +816

    Adam is the kind of guy that complains about unions while having a comfortable office job with good hours and a friendly boss.

    • @Lambda_Ovine
      @Lambda_Ovine Před rokem +96

      Oh, the kind of asshole that while driving on the highway sees a group of workers standing on the side looking like 'they are not doing anything' (while in reality they have very specific roles and they are just waiting for each other in order to not get in their own way) and thinks "lazy union workers..."

    • @Kevin-cc3up
      @Kevin-cc3up Před rokem +23

      @@Lambda_Ovine lmao why is this so common

    • @joywolfe.
      @joywolfe. Před rokem

      spot on appraisal, fuck that stupid bee

    • @mastersquinch
      @mastersquinch Před rokem

      A whiny middle class white guy who’s more invested in his illusory freedom to have a moderately comfortable place and some commodities in a rigid hierarchy than actual, tangible liberation of literal slaves from horrific conditions even though he could have all of the things he has now if the slaves were liberated and the system changed?
      Never seen that before.

    • @Lucasp110
      @Lucasp110 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Dont really agree with that
      Adam essentially says not that their exploitation is right, but that honey, as the product of their labor, is the raison d'être of the bee. Their labor is dignified. Doesnt matter who gets it, making honey is both means and end

  • @colleen6440
    @colleen6440 Před 5 lety +2825

    Is it too much to ask for an accurate anthropomorphization of bees where all of them are female except for the disposable breeding males?

    • @attentatdefecitdisorder4348
      @attentatdefecitdisorder4348 Před 5 lety +611

      As a disposable male, I approve this message.

    • @heresieirisee
      @heresieirisee Před 5 lety +731

      I mean barry as a butch lesbian bee cucking the character that represents the capitalist patriarchy would only strengthen the film's message

    • @frootjuice91
      @frootjuice91 Před 5 lety +415

      thank you! I get so angry every time I think about bee movie.... where are the outraged gamers crying about realism now??? lmao

    • @unknownname328
      @unknownname328 Před 5 lety +476

      Implying that sex and gender are the same thing. Come on, clearly most of the bees we see on screen (including every main bee character) are female but the bees have an idea of gender that is almost, if not completely, divorced from sex

    • @CrappyBlue
      @CrappyBlue Před 5 lety +348

      @@unknownname328 i like the idea of this interpretation but it's still in service of a film with a majority male cast

  • @felix.bengtsson
    @felix.bengtsson Před 5 lety +1817

    Who's this objectively hot troubadour and why is he shouting at me

    • @endlessness
      @endlessness Před 5 lety +75

      holy shit lmao you're 100% right

    • @poposterous236
      @poposterous236 Před 5 lety +112

      Masculinity serves him well.

    • @terri8372
      @terri8372 Před 5 lety +13

      @@poposterous236 you get an unironic like for that!

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 Před 4 lety +9

      He looks like a baby with a beard

    • @roguepsykerhaaker4813
      @roguepsykerhaaker4813 Před 3 lety +6

      @@nifralo2752 I think it's the way he talks and moves his head that makes him babylike

  • @autodidacticartisan
    @autodidacticartisan Před 5 lety +1104

    If "man spends 25 minutes discussing the socio-philosophical importance of the Bee movie" doesn't become a meme I'm going to be really surprised

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety +66

      Internet: Meme about 12 year old movie
      Joel: Consciousness shifting video essay you say

    • @oliverluke2363
      @oliverluke2363 Před 4 lety +30

      Hey I'm from the future (2020), and not only will it not become a meme but it's the beginning of February and the world has almost ended like 3 times.

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 Před 4 lety +14

      @@oliverluke2363 Beginning of March now, and the world is still apparently in danger.
      Wash your hands more, and stop touching your face.

    • @imani7979
      @imani7979 Před 4 lety +17

      @@E4439Qv5 Beginning of May and people are protesting the quarantine and the president of the United States is telling people to inject themselves with cleaning products.
      So the world is still cucked.

    • @quackman
      @quackman Před 4 lety +12

      @@imani7979 End of May and........ wow.

  • @myerklamb8529
    @myerklamb8529 Před 5 lety +1064

    "Rough trilogy" was my Moms codename for me and my two sisters

    • @josadison
      @josadison Před 5 lety +63

      This is layered

    • @Nickman826
      @Nickman826 Před 5 lety +30

      Turn it around and become a badass super team

    • @bereftspud279
      @bereftspud279 Před 5 lety +13

      What are you doing stepbro

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf Před 5 lety +1

      Same. Only all three of us are sisters. Ha, ha. Got you there, OP. I think.....

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs Před 5 lety +8

      ...I nearly misread that as "'Rough trilogy' was your Mom's codename last night"...

  • @ericdorland3707
    @ericdorland3707 Před 5 lety +1225

    So proud of Comrade Big Joel for finally providing a materialist analysis of the conditions facing the Beelatariat

    • @gil5885
      @gil5885 Před 5 lety +77

      The Breadman way to fight the bourgeoisbee

    • @bendym7001
      @bendym7001 Před 5 lety +57

      The Conquest of Honey

    • @vornamenachname2727
      @vornamenachname2727 Před 5 lety +11

      @@gil5885 Does that mean Joel will have to pour honey over his face as the ritual demands.
      Cause I would be very fine with that.

    • @malihaariba7396
      @malihaariba7396 Před 5 lety +18

      long live the beelatariat beevolution

    • @Viscidsquare040
      @Viscidsquare040 Před 2 lety +5

      “Beelatariat” does this mean humans are just called “pro”?

  • @rileyjones9413
    @rileyjones9413 Před 5 lety +1009

    In this series Big Joel:
    1) Makes insightful content about interesting things that don't get talked about as much as they deserve
    2) Is a big sweetie
    3) Serves as eyecandy to draw the viewer in
    4) Reminds us all of how bizarre and awesome DreamWorks was
    5) Affirms my political beliefs in an oblique way
    6) is very cute

    • @harrisonfackrell
      @harrisonfackrell Před 5 lety +81

      Do you mean to say that he's an objectively hot troubadour?

    • @tirone7520
      @tirone7520 Před 5 lety +9

      What? Those are all true

    • @babahu15
      @babahu15 Před 5 lety +37

      i came to the channel when he didn't show his face yet so it's weird looking at him all the time now. i got used to it and it's nice now but the first time he did it was so disorienting. those eyes baby!

    • @worrywirt
      @worrywirt Před 5 lety +16

      babahu15 some eyes just want to be stared into 😍 (while excruciatingly analysing Bee Movie)

    • @randyohm3445
      @randyohm3445 Před 5 lety +36

      @@babahu15 Can you imagine him talking to you about, like, regular stuff? "Hey, I'm gonna go and get some milk, and maybe also a carton of eggs, because I think we're out." Me: "WHY ARE YOU SO GODDAMN EARNEST AND INTENSE ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU SAY?!"

  • @suzysquidink
    @suzysquidink Před 5 lety +645

    Big Joel Drinking Game:
    Drink every time your heart is warmed by a newfound appreciation of something you were previously apathetic towards.

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 Před 5 lety +29

      You would die like 10 times

    • @sardonicsardonyx359
      @sardonicsardonyx359 Před 5 lety +8

      @SomethingScanning I want to make fanart of his adorable face

    • @hamluk_
      @hamluk_ Před 4 lety +2

      don't want to die of alcohol poisoning

    • @somenothing7914
      @somenothing7914 Před 4 lety +1

      for realz partna

    • @aspektx
      @aspektx Před 2 lety +2

      I wish I were half as insightful as Big Joel.

  • @deanna5280
    @deanna5280 Před 5 lety +951

    "Lord Duloc" boi I know you didn't forget Farquaad's name omg

  • @alexramey2062
    @alexramey2062 Před 5 lety +428

    "Artificial hierarchies"
    *Jordan "Lobsterman" Petereon wants to know your location*

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety +52

      Consider the Queen Bee. No wait, ignore that.

    • @harryiscool9619
      @harryiscool9619 Před 4 lety +18

      - vaska. Jordan BEEterson

    • @namelesscompadre4095
      @namelesscompadre4095 Před 4 lety +11

      Tricia Melia Beedan Bee Beeterbee

    • @goatdeer8403
      @goatdeer8403 Před 2 lety +2

      Jordan Beeterson is a quack who mixes science with pseudoscience in order to make the pseudoscience look more legitimate. He purposefully exploits outrage for the sake of profit and the big Joel bee movie deserves better

  • @elizabethdevido2081
    @elizabethdevido2081 Před 4 lety +219

    Joel, it warms my cold heart when you give smart, eloquent commentary sprinkled with phrases like “bee chads” and “muscle baby” said with complete earnest sincerity.

  • @SpagEddie8113
    @SpagEddie8113 Před 5 lety +512

    1950’s: We’ll probably have flying cars in the future!
    2000’s: Jerry Seinfeld is a bee dating a human and sueing every one who’s ever sold honey.

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 Před 4 lety +7

      SpagEddie8113 even better!

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 Před 4 lety +1

      Also if you're a billionaire you can actually buy a flying car

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 Před 2 lety +11

      Cringe ass irrelevant technology vs nuanced social commentary in an animated children’s film

    • @liam3284
      @liam3284 Před rokem

      Its called a learjet

  • @sarahloyhihi
    @sarahloyhihi Před 5 lety +306

    When you were talking about Barry being a revolutionary, I got weirdly emotional.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety +50

      You can kill a bee. You can't kill an idea. HONEY WANTS TO BE FREE

  • @yabanc_8357
    @yabanc_8357 Před 5 lety +421

    "this bee is cucking him"... a series of words i never expected to hear in this combination.
    I do like this movie, mostly because seeing what happens to a world without bees to 8 year old me was an experience. And now I guess with the added interpretation of the social hierarchy of cartoon bees. Thanks.

  • @42thecakeisalie
    @42thecakeisalie Před 5 lety +895

    25 minutes of deep and complex analysis of a movie I only saw once in my childhood and didn't even appreciate at the time but keep comin and comin into my life trough collective consciousness. What a great time to bee alive.

    • @simone6893
      @simone6893 Před 5 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/AXh_IkK4JCQ/video.html

  • @ChookaaFindlebean
    @ChookaaFindlebean Před 2 lety +198

    Those beekeepers were so outwardly aggressive and hateful to the bees, and like, most beekeepers love bees. They definitely don't talk about knocking bees out and stealing their honey while maniacally laughing.

    • @IM2OFU
      @IM2OFU Před rokem +40

      Backyard beekeepers maybe, big apricultural farms kill all their bees every year, y'know cause it's cheaper

    • @crptpyr
      @crptpyr Před rokem

      ​@@IM2OFU wheres that information from? I'm genuinely interested, all I can find in terms of sources on honey farms harming their bees are peta and other similar organisations.

  • @BigJoel
    @BigJoel  Před 5 lety +649

    sorry about the weird camera focus problems and the kinda bad audio. I’m upgrading a lil haha

    • @tape-6
      @tape-6 Před 5 lety +12

      It’s chill

    • @Kage-jk4pj
      @Kage-jk4pj Před 5 lety +28

      No one gonna talk about how he made this comment 11 hrs ago

    • @DyLeN17
      @DyLeN17 Před 5 lety

      It looks good, you should stop the crack consumption though

    • @aboxintheblack9530
      @aboxintheblack9530 Před 5 lety +6

      Big Joel THIS MOVIE IS OBJECTIVELY GOOD JOEL.

    • @chaosvii
      @chaosvii Před 5 lety +1

      Josh Adams are you a time cop?

  • @Froggy711
    @Froggy711 Před 5 lety +321

    Bee Movie but every time someone supports the hierarchy, the movie speeds up by 1%

  • @juliettest.laclaire8931
    @juliettest.laclaire8931 Před 3 lety +66

    im terrified why is Joel treating the bee movie like a movie and not the collective fever dream it is. he says "he's getting cucked by a bee" like its a normal thing for a kids movie someone please help

  • @QuintonReviews
    @QuintonReviews Před 5 lety +554

    Good video, could have been longer tho.

    • @bliss2632
      @bliss2632 Před 5 lety +62

      Quinton really be flexing after that 3 and a half hour, actual Bee Movie odyssey he released on his channel

    • @Loalrikowki
      @Loalrikowki Před 5 lety +24

      Just watch it at half speed.

    • @zerodollarbird
      @zerodollarbird Před 4 lety +15

      What is this, a crossover episode?

    • @loayzag91
      @loayzag91 Před 3 lety +5

      I thought it was too long, so I sped it up each time he said the word "Bee"

  • @mattildas7515
    @mattildas7515 Před 5 lety +562

    So I wasn't gonna say this, and since I'm only 3:30 minutes in I dunno if you said it, but the fact you called the bees that go outside Chads pushed me over the edge. I'm pretty sure that in honey bee hives, the worker bees are all infertile female bees, which makes the fact that they are portrayed as big buffy guys hilarious to me. In fact, there's a running theme in animated movies about bees and ants that they will always focus on a male, regardless of whether that makes sense for the species and social role the character plays.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland Před 5 lety +53

      I’ve always found that really irritating

    • @alexkiddo5855
      @alexkiddo5855 Před 5 lety +135

      Really it's more like three sexes of bees. Queen, drone, worker. There's no reason to try to fit them into a sex binary when they really shouldn't be, I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with doing that even when it doesn't make the most sense

    • @mattildas7515
      @mattildas7515 Před 5 lety +98

      @@alexkiddo5855 You make a good point, but I still contend that the bit in my comment about eusocial insect movies always focusing on a male character holds :P

    • @alexkiddo5855
      @alexkiddo5855 Před 5 lety +38

      @@mattildas7515 oh yeah you're definitely right

    • @fymbra360
      @fymbra360 Před 5 lety +9

      Chad bees

  • @hilmijaidin1156
    @hilmijaidin1156 Před 5 lety +103

    Bee Movie but Big Joel analyses it unironically in front of an unironed tablecloth, and he still uses his phone to film even though he has 150K subscribers now

  • @Echoingsunflowers981
    @Echoingsunflowers981 Před 4 lety +97

    The one thing that always confused me about this movie was the “nothing gets pollinated” scene is that honey bees are not the only pollenators that exist, such as: birds, butterflies, indigenous bees, etc. So that dead flower scene never made sense to me

    • @colin3ds1
      @colin3ds1 Před 3 lety +22

      In fact an argument can be made that bees make it worse
      Im pretty sure the species of bee that barry belongs to is an invasive species
      They had to wipe out the polinaters that were already there (and were better at actually polinating)

    • @derinedala5032
      @derinedala5032 Před 2 lety +12

      I was just amused by how the flowers at a flower show could apparently pollinate every vegetable species in the world. (Also if it was that easy, why didn't the humans do that before the lack of bee pollination became an issue? In this 'honeybees are the world's primary pollinators everywhere apparently' world, this problem was very foreseeable.)

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 5 lety +615

    *ㄚ卂 ㄥ丨Ҝ乇 フ卂乙乙*

  • @squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719

    You should talk about my absolute favorite movie if all time: Robots.
    Only after I've aged like a fine wine have I noticed how it's a movie for the working class and I only appreciate it that much more.

  • @Ringowasprettygood
    @Ringowasprettygood Před 5 lety +380

    This is the only Endgame I care about

  • @ShinyBaboon
    @ShinyBaboon Před 5 lety +344

    Finally the day has come. I've been waiting for this moment my entire life

    • @abugoha4793
      @abugoha4793 Před 5 lety +8

      I too can feel it in the air tonight

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf Před 5 lety +5

      @@abugoha4793 and I feel lust for big joel's video essays in this chili's tonight

  • @THEREDAKAY
    @THEREDAKAY Před 5 lety +204

    Please make a video about Robots

  • @Frank-nt1bx
    @Frank-nt1bx Před 5 lety +52

    Long ago, the Bee colonies lived together in harmony. Then; everything changed when the Bee-Chads attacked.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Před 5 lety +3

      You can never trust those damn Central-Africanized bees.

  • @joshkkg1519
    @joshkkg1519 Před 5 lety +59

    "and lucky for us, Bee Movie is a kind of brilliant film."
    i know literally nothing else about your channel but that's an instant subscription from me.

  • @nichtschwert3307
    @nichtschwert3307 Před 5 lety +207

    Okay I haven't seen this movie recently or anything but I feel the point where the bees start making honey "because they want to" doesn't really work that way in the movie. The bees throw off the oppression of slavery and just stop making honey altogterh which is a problem because nature starts dying immediately. WHat saves the day is not bees going back to making honey because they wanna, but because they realise they can sell it. They realise they have a monopoly and decide to exploit this fact by selling honey to humans and returning to honey production to keep up with demand.
    It's not quite the brave, subversive ending you make it out to be, in my opinion. The movie still ends up saying that the bees need to be forced to work through violence, just not the direct, physical violence of slavery but throgh the indirect, economic violence of capitalism.
    Buuuuuut that doesn't detract from the rest of the video which I liked a ton. Thanks, Joel.

    • @vornamenachname2727
      @vornamenachname2727 Před 5 lety +32

      Still an anti slavery, socialist revolution about bees.
      It's still a lot more than I expected.

    • @emperorleroy6747
      @emperorleroy6747 Před 5 lety +84

      I think it's up for interpretation. Even if the bees end up selling it, that is still a revolutionary idea. They now have the means of production and call the shots. That is possible better than simply sitting around on a honey surplus.

    • @sleep3417
      @sleep3417 Před 3 lety +3

      @@emperorleroy6747 Okay, but without their naturally produced honey to feed themselves. they have to switch to syrup or other artificial substances, with unknown health risks. This means that even though they obtain great wealth, it would only harm their future generations and splinter honey society into capitalists and traditionalists.

    • @sleep3417
      @sleep3417 Před 3 lety +12

      The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the beeman race.

    • @thevioletbee5879
      @thevioletbee5879 Před 2 lety +5

      @@sleep3417 Who says they can’t keep what they need?

  • @mothcub
    @mothcub Před 5 lety +68

    crunchy

  • @El_Omar2203
    @El_Omar2203 Před 5 lety +132

    "The trash era of Dreamworks is over"
    He knows Boss Baby exist right?

    • @razkable
      @razkable Před 3 lety +17

      its weird how shrek shrek 2 and 4 kung fu panda 1 and 2 madagascar 1 and 2 and megamind exist but inbetween that we got shark tale sinbad king of seas bee movie monster vs aliens and shrek the third .dreamworks was very up and down back then....

    • @ilmartellodestro3682
      @ilmartellodestro3682 Před 2 lety +1

      @@razkable And Dragon trainer. After Monsters vs Aliens, It was a f🅾️cking miracle

    • @river_brook
      @river_brook Před rokem +1

      @@ilmartellodestro3682 is that what How to Train Your Dragon got translated into elsewhere

    • @ilmartellodestro3682
      @ilmartellodestro3682 Před rokem

      @@river_brook czcams.com/video/Yb-WXVeSILw/video.html

  • @pythonjava6228
    @pythonjava6228 Před 5 lety +54

    I spent my whole life thinking the bee movie was just a random film from my childhood but really it was a movie that advocated anarchy, Marxism and vegan ethics?..............
    Mind blown

  • @TSFboi
    @TSFboi Před 5 lety +33

    Dreamworks peaked with Megamind.
    Also, Bee Movie makes more sense through the lens of a Seinfeld film than a Dreamworks one. It feels more like a sitcom than an adventure and the focus is more on character dynamics and comedic situations than meta social commentary.

    • @thomaswest4033
      @thomaswest4033 Před 5 lety +5

      Megamind is a metaphor for hegalian master and slave dialect

  • @vlogo4371
    @vlogo4371 Před 5 lety +13

    The idea that barry's hive would stop production is wild anyway because they were an independent hive; no one skimmed off their honey, so the system got the full value of their labor, if not the individual owning his own work.

    • @sierra1513
      @sierra1513 Před 2 lety +2

      My understanding is that the massive surplus of honey that was created by the farms was evenly distributed among the bees

  • @maxamillonrat9867
    @maxamillonrat9867 Před 4 lety +22

    Big Joel says everything, joke, explanation, serious point, everything, in the same voice. It’s fantastic. He just says the dumbest shit the same way as everything else. Very good, best boy

  • @luqmanturaki
    @luqmanturaki Před 5 lety +51

    big joel is so cute

  • @atlasmonkeyleon
    @atlasmonkeyleon Před 5 lety +43

    Eat a spoonful of honey each time Joel says "social hierarchy".

  • @noobrat
    @noobrat Před 5 lety +132

    BEEg Joel

  • @blndrhed
    @blndrhed Před 5 lety +45

    Have you done "Iron Giant"? That's a good one. iI's my favorite animated movie. Not a critique of capitalism, more critique of propaganda, militarism and scare mongering.

    • @andrewdevine3920
      @andrewdevine3920 Před 4 lety +10

      The Iron Giant is a great film, though. One of the best ever. These reviews are fun because Bee Movie and Shark Tale are complete garbage.

    • @namelesscompadre4095
      @namelesscompadre4095 Před 4 lety

      Andrew Devine that cop out ending was bs though, good movie otherwise

    • @abartel6
      @abartel6 Před 2 měsíci

      bee movie is good :)

  • @ericdorland3707
    @ericdorland3707 Před 5 lety +57

    We should all aspire to be revolutionaries like Barry

  • @Bellyoflion
    @Bellyoflion Před 5 lety +21

    You're ability to draw your analysis to conclusions that are life-affirming and inspiring, beyond simply theorizing for the sake of theorizing, is really astounding, Joel. Thank you for what you make!

  • @chloeg939
    @chloeg939 Před 5 lety +25

    A lot of this seemed oddly reminiscent of the most recent How To Train Your Dragon movie. It ends with Hiccup accepting a full segregation of humans and dragons, even though Birk was able to live in harmony with them for years, because of figures seeking to capture them. Effectively that's just saying that the hierarchy hiccup removed in the first movie and fought against others attempting to instil in the second was misguided and actually these two classes can't coexist in mutually beneficial manner.

    • @weevil8234
      @weevil8234 Před 5 měsíci

      i know this comment is 4 years old but i remember watching that movie in theaters and being genuinely shocked by its messaging. id love to see a thorough breakdown of it if it doesnt exist already

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum Před 5 lety +28

    You and Jack Saint among a few others are doing a brilliant job of creating a post-Gramscian analysis of popular culture for all us malcontents trying to make sense of this world. Thanks for that.

  • @rorocervenka4022
    @rorocervenka4022 Před 5 lety +28

    I expected this being a meme. Got something completely different and still wasn't dissapointed.

  • @BloodRefiner
    @BloodRefiner Před 5 lety +174

    Joel you clever bone, taking a simple thread of trash movies and slowly building a socialist web out of them.
    You genius you, you actually did it.

  • @zz55jf
    @zz55jf Před 5 lety +17

    Maybe the importance is in choosing where you want to be in life. If you want to go beyond expectations that's great, but if you are happiest living your life exactly where society expects, that's fine too. I'm sure there are other examples, but from my own experience, people look down on housewives because people percieve them as not striving for more, but some are just fulfilled by caring for their families, even if part of society thinks the housewife should find it oppressive. The fish and the animals didn't have things that bad, and neither did shrek by ogre standards, so after they explored other options, they discovered home was what made them happy. The Bees on the other hand were treated poorly and made a choice to change. I LOVE this series but would like to hope DreamWorks is inspiring the ideals of both ambition and gratitude, and not remaining in one's place to protect the status quo.

    • @shadowmaydawn
      @shadowmaydawn Před 5 lety

      The issue isn't so much the fact that people can find happiness in the situation they're in it's just that when there is an artificial hierarchy in place that denies people their freedom than their complacency is allowing that system to prolong its existence. The animals have lost the part of the forest that provided them with food, the fish are still serving under a capitalistic and racially divided system and the Fairytale beings would have been kept segregated and forced live in squaller if Sherk didn't indirectly depose of Farquaad.

  • @roxycontinandvodka
    @roxycontinandvodka Před 5 lety +24

    We are all cogs in a machine.
    We cannot escape.
    We are slaves.
    "A mechanized automaton"

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean Před 5 lety +32

    Oddly, Bee Movie is the only part of the "Dreamworks Trash Trilogy" that I haven't watched. I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it, but I'm more interested than I was before.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety

      It's about 20 minutes too long, bring a friend.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Před 5 lety

      My experience exactly.

    • @colin3ds1
      @colin3ds1 Před 3 lety

      Its a rollercoaster of a movie but its worth it

  • @Lugiaskr
    @Lugiaskr Před 5 lety +43

    thank god someone finally sees the value of bee movie

  • @jaquitavulpix3418
    @jaquitavulpix3418 Před 5 lety +10

    I absolutely love it when some dude on youtube puts more effort in thinking about the themes of a movie than the people who actually produced the movie. It's just awesome and it shows that a piece of media doesn't need to be deep and complex to be worth engaging with. You can get some 'intellectual brain food' out of almost everything.
    I really, really want to see your take on the Emoji Movie. It is so soulless and stupid, obviously just a big ad, but its stories has some really interesting implications I don't think the producers were aware of.

  • @Jerthanis
    @Jerthanis Před 5 lety +22

    I've really enjoyed your series on Dreamworks movies, and I think they've helped me understand why I like Dreamworks movies generally better than I like Pixar movies. Now, obviously Pixar movies are better made in an absolute sense. Mauler's robot probably would rate them higher or whatever. But I think in this video you get at the fundamental core of Dreamworks' philosophy, that the world must change for our characters to be happy, and the things that hold our society back are some false understanding of the past as idyllic, while Pixar seems to say that the world is changing no matter what we do, and we must find our place in a darker, more miserable future, or die.

  • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

    Love how Big Joel who's actual name isn't Joel, always looks like he's about burst out into laughs lol.

    • @imnobd8757
      @imnobd8757 Před 5 měsíci

      Looking at his channel little joel, you have been right all along.

  • @KillsAllHumanity
    @KillsAllHumanity Před 5 lety +66

    So...youre saying that adam is an example of...privilege?

  • @vivian-sasha-taylor
    @vivian-sasha-taylor Před 4 lety +10

    "This bee is cucking him" is the best sentence ever spoken by the human tongue.

  • @JohnR436
    @JohnR436 Před 5 lety +54

    You like jazz?

  • @Katfuzzmunchkin
    @Katfuzzmunchkin Před 5 lety +19

    im going to miss this video series! you always seem so genuine when you talk about these movies and i hope you continue to make videos about things you truly enjoy

  • @katokianimation
    @katokianimation Před 5 lety +82

    Hello, love your works, keep it up! Can I ask you, are you willing to make a video about Robots (2005) in the future?

    • @casir.7407
      @casir.7407 Před 5 lety +16

      the blue sky produced movies (ice age, rio, robots) could be a new trilogy of animated trash -if ice age wasnt actually good

    • @andresacosta4832
      @andresacosta4832 Před 5 lety +3

      @@casir.7407 Meanwhile, Robots is now a meme somehow

    • @ExhaustedWombat
      @ExhaustedWombat Před 3 lety

      @@casir.7407 sure... if.

  • @playdead5493
    @playdead5493 Před 5 lety +78

    Bees aren't real. That's why they needed to make an animated film.

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 Před 4 lety

      @@SpagEddie8113 Not so much a joke these days

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 Před 4 lety +4

      Noah Karpinski I made this comment over a year ago, I don’t think it’s funny anymore it’s just edgy

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 Před 4 lety

      @@SpagEddie8113 Not trying to shame you, it's just another example of how insane things have gotten

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 Před 4 lety +2

      Noah Karpinski I know you aren’t shaming me, and I agree with you, I’m shaming myself because my joke legit just wasn’t funny imo

  • @johnovember
    @johnovember Před 5 lety +20

    1:08 we are getting DANGEROUSLY close to loss folks

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety +3

      www.iceposter.com/thumbs/MOV_cfd4d4b1_b.jpg

    • @stargirl32102
      @stargirl32102 Před 5 lety

      now i'm just imagining loss with dreamworks characters and i'm Disturbed

  • @JamesTullos
    @JamesTullos Před 5 lety +32

    Bee Movie is literally perfect.

    • @bereftspud279
      @bereftspud279 Před 5 lety +4

      It's my favorite bee chad

    • @marcino457
      @marcino457 Před 5 lety +6

      “The worldbuilding of Bee Movie is pretty OK actually”, coming soon to YT channel near you

  • @Peter
    @Peter Před 5 lety +69

    you should compile the entire criticism from shrek to bee movie in a book

    • @PixelAspen
      @PixelAspen Před 3 lety +5

      This is actually a good idea

  • @mawichan
    @mawichan Před 5 lety +16

    I had never seen someone talking about bee movie with such a gleeful expression on their face. I loved that.

    • @YourFaceisPretty
      @YourFaceisPretty Před 5 lety +1

      Would you believe me if I said there was another person who had as much fun? Because, oh man, Quinton Reviews has a great time with Bee Movie. In a different way, of course. Highly recommend as companion Bee Movie material.

    • @mawichan
      @mawichan Před 5 lety

      @@YourFaceisPretty Thanks man, I'll check it out!

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Před 5 lety +20

    It's Bee Movie, but critically analyzed instead of being a bunch of memes

  • @niarose6435
    @niarose6435 Před 5 lety +14

    You have the cutest face on CZcams! Jesus I melt just watching you!

  • @andyanderson100
    @andyanderson100 Před 5 lety +19

    Adam is the labor aristocracy

  • @connorwalters3240
    @connorwalters3240 Před 5 lety +10

    I loved this. Thanks Joel, you've helped me completely reevaluate how I look at art in general, and film specifically.

  • @Emike-nc9ew
    @Emike-nc9ew Před 5 lety +24

    *I love this anime*

    • @JohnR436
      @JohnR436 Před 5 lety +2

      I prefer Bee Movie, The Manga

    • @fangirldreamer748
      @fangirldreamer748 Před 4 lety

      What are you talking about?!??!?!? 🧐🤔🙄😡🤬

  • @theCarbonFreeze
    @theCarbonFreeze Před 2 lety +7

    This movie's such a meme that I couldnt tell if you were serious or doing a bit

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 Před 5 lety +31

    Dreamworks: did you do it?
    Jerry: yes.
    Dreamworks: what did it cost?
    Jenny: everything! I mean what's the deal with cost....

  • @moonymonster
    @moonymonster Před 5 lety +42

    Could you review Rise of the Guardians? It has a lot of really interesting themes and it needs more love.

    • @BiscuitAWitch
      @BiscuitAWitch Před 5 lety

      I haven't seen it, should I? Or is it trashy interesting?

  • @chapter_black3234
    @chapter_black3234 Před 5 lety +122

    So I realize just how Jordan Peterson-esque the trash era of DreamWorks was

    • @ernestotorelli1209
      @ernestotorelli1209 Před 5 lety +33

      I can hear the sound of a messy room from around here

    • @CoWinkKeyDinkInc
      @CoWinkKeyDinkInc Před 5 lety +45

      was there even any lobsters in Shark Tale? checkmate athiests

    • @chapter_black3234
      @chapter_black3234 Před 5 lety +1

      @@CoWinkKeyDinkInc Shaun the Sheep is right!

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 5 lety +48

      Why are woodland creatures caring about politics when their own habitat isn't even in order? Can't you see how stealing nachos leads to chaos and nihilism?

    • @Shadowplay4Cats
      @Shadowplay4Cats Před 5 lety +25

      Something something cultural marxism

  • @jdw5956
    @jdw5956 Před 5 lety +15

    I haven’t started this video yet, but I want to say that Bee Movie is unironically one of my favorite movies and I have seen it more times than any other movie.

  • @RykerJones28
    @RykerJones28 Před 5 lety +3

    I kinda love that this is what my life as an adult has become. Standing at a bus stop, watching an intellectual video essay about the nuances of Bee Movie. A movie I have only had the pleasure of watching due to my children liking anything bright and colourful. Yet here I am, nodding along.

  • @BREADSWORD
    @BREADSWORD Před 5 lety +19

    Big Joel Stay Dropping Bangers Fr !

  • @coffeedude
    @coffeedude Před 5 lety +3

    I really like the way he thinks about and analizes things. Every video is super interesting to me and they always end in surprinsgly deeper messages than I had thought of initially.
    Definitey favourite youtuber right now!

  • @blueapp1e820
    @blueapp1e820 Před 5 lety +32

    >calls movie trash
    >25 minute in depth analysis

    • @APaleDot
      @APaleDot Před 5 lety +3

      There's this game you should play, then you might understand:
      store.steampowered.com/app/240720/Getting_Over_It_with_Bennett_Foddy/

    • @emperorleroy6747
      @emperorleroy6747 Před 5 lety +7

      He doesn't though. This literally is called the end of trash.

  • @MiketheNerdRanger
    @MiketheNerdRanger Před 2 lety +4

    The significance of Barry talking to a human and it just being completely okay flew over my head when I first saw it. But I did find myself asking, "wait, why aren't bees supposed to talk to humans again?"

  • @folgerkelley2715
    @folgerkelley2715 Před 5 lety

    This was an amazing birthday surprise! Love your stuff keep up the great work!

  • @krombopulos_michael
    @krombopulos_michael Před 5 lety +1

    These videos are really great. I honestly love how Joel talks about this stuff. Sort of just interpreting it in terms of its themes and writing and not really passing judgement on it. I hope we get more of these to come.

  • @888fluffy
    @888fluffy Před 4 lety +8

    I can't believe my heart was lifted into revolutionary action by the altruistic nature of barry b benson

  • @hexane360
    @hexane360 Před 5 lety +7

    God I love Patrick Warburton

  • @TheQuashingoftheTub
    @TheQuashingoftheTub Před 5 lety +5

    My favorite joke:
    Barry: "Are you okay?"
    Human: *Pouring coffee onto a plate* "No! :D"

  • @TigerAceSullivan
    @TigerAceSullivan Před rokem +1

    just binged a ton of your videos. wanna say thanks for speaking out loud the names of each part of your video essays; so many people just put a title card and assume everyones watching when theyre just listening

  • @Yahoodoraze
    @Yahoodoraze Před 5 lety +5

    I desperately need someone to make a video essay about Antz and I think you’re the guy

  • @earthculture2996
    @earthculture2996 Před 5 lety +55

    I guess you are reading from a script and you might believe your voice doesn’t sound natural or something. But no! It’s great! It’s actually nice to listen to. It sounds robotic but in a good way! Don’t change it!

    • @luqmanturaki
      @luqmanturaki Před 5 lety +6

      ikr, i see what u re talking about. he is cute he doesnt need scripts

    • @sourgreendolly7685
      @sourgreendolly7685 Před 5 lety +13

      I love his cadence, it’s very relaxing

    • @earthculture2996
      @earthculture2996 Před 5 lety +5

      luqman turakı I mean. He’s definitely reading a script (probably 89%) but as long as he uses the reading style he is reading now, it’s all good!

    • @Nickman826
      @Nickman826 Před 5 lety +4

      Yeah his voice is very listenable.

  • @abugoha4793
    @abugoha4793 Před 5 lety +1

    This was really good. Big Joel with another thought provoking and heartfelt look at something I never even thought was worthy of criticism. The discussion honestly makes me appreciate the film in a way I never would have guessed

  • @annesilva3542
    @annesilva3542 Před 3 lety +4

    My grandad became a bee keeper after he retired, so this movie haunted me as a 7 year old, honest I felt really guilty because I liked wearing the suit

  • @WithoutTheTea
    @WithoutTheTea Před 5 lety +5

    @8:20 "a set of bee-haviours"

  • @tyb4028
    @tyb4028 Před 5 lety +3

    its weird to hear u say that these movies came out when you were a kid cause I grew up with these movies and im just 16 anyways you become my favorite person everytime I go back to watch your videos

  • @TehFingergunz
    @TehFingergunz Před 5 lety

    big joel please never stop making videos these are absolutely fantastic

  • @evam6961
    @evam6961 Před 5 lety

    I love coming back from night out still buzzed a lil bit and watching this type of videos

  • @jman2856
    @jman2856 Před 5 lety +11

    When is the inevitable Jack Saint and Big Joel crossover?