The Game MVP Kobe Brought Lakers From 17 Down To ELiMINATE Champs SAS in 2008 WCF!
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'07 - '10 Kobe was absolutely just on another level..
06-12
@@duartenoronha3172 05-12
dude torched duncan in the pick n roll all series long, yet im told Duncan clears kobe lmaoooo
Most BS narrative over the last couple years. Shit wasn’t even a debate when they both were playing , Kobe clears TD easily.
Kobe owns Duncan. 4-2 vs Duncan in the playoffs and he absolutely COOKED the Spurs everytime. Idk who started the Duncan over Kobe takes but clearly that dude ain’t never watched what Kobe did to these spurs teams
bcs people read old box scores and think they know everything
Bronsexuals love their narratives
exactly, tf???
Kobe Bryant was pure art in motion.
All things considered, this was probably a top 5 all-time Kobe playoff game. He OWNED the Spurs this entire series. I have immense respect for Tim Duncan, but in THIS series, there was no question who the best player on the court was from games 1-5.
Kobe dominated the Spurs more than any other player in Spurs franchise history
Kobe had the toughest road in the playoffs every year of his career. And can win championships without a top 75 player. Better than the queen of flops
Meanwhile jokic 0-5 against 50 win teams his career.
Repeating. Is. Hard.
Why are you talking about other players on a Kobe video? This is just next level weird.
Lakers went from Kobe to LeBron. I guess it didn't work. Who's gonna be the next after LeBron retires? 🤔
What top 75 player LBJ have in 2016?
@@hardwoodthought1213 LBJ's playoff run was against Pistons and Hawks! LMAO
Who's not a fan of Kobe? So skilled. Unmatched footwork
I’m a bron fan, but love watching Kobe highlights. He was skilled but lots of guys are skilled, he was arguably both the most skilled and the mentally toughest player to ever play
Kobe’s footwork was insane. A lot of fun to watch, when you notice the small details Kobe learned and paid attention to. It was all clean too and within the rules.
I'm not s fan of Kobe-LOL. thought he was a BIG ball hog,arrogant and cocky too. Then that rape case/trial,what a BIG dummy. LOL. For someone supposed to be so intelligent he did something so-DUMB-and embarassed himself,his wife and kids to the public.
Bron fan here, I always wanted Kobe and Bron to face each other in the finals but Bron never could make it to the finals , respect to mamba tho , one of the greatest to ever lace them up , r.i.p
The color commentator here apparently. Dude was yapping when the spurs were up then quiet when LA went on that run. 😂
Less than a handful of dudes in NBA history that could hunt prime Tim Duncan and score over and over again. Kobe at his peak was unstoppable.
Kobe has a dunk highlight reel on Tim lol
@@manz7860 I miss those days of Kobe going right at Timmy
Duncan was pretty slow footed on the perimeter. Most of the star offensive players at the time who were elite shooters and off the dribble scorers DID do this to Duncan (Dirk, Nash, Allen, Pierce, Carmelo, Garnett, McGrady).
The Spurs defense had much worse series than this in the 2000's. Duncan was torched by Nash and Stoudemire in 2005 and 2007. In 2005 the Suns had a playoff OffRtg 16% better than the Spurs regular season DefRtg. In 2006 the Mavericks were also at 16% better. In 2008 the Lakers were only at 2%.
Some of that is surrounding players. Kobe didn't play with as strong an offensive roster as Nash did in 2005 and Gasol struggled this series. I'd counter that Duncan's movement on the perimeter was a much larger flaw than most people credited. All those former players hunted Duncan pretty successfully. Most of their teams just didn't play as good of defense as the Lakers did. That or they never played him in the playoffs (Pierce, McGrady) or their teams sucked offensively and made it easy to help onto the star (Carmelo, Garnett).
Duncan was so slow by this point these aren't plays other star offensive players' couldn't and didn't make. Re-watch the 2007 Spurs-Suns or 2006 Mavericks-Spurs and you can see how much of a problem Duncan's defense was in those series too. Duncan flourished defensively when he didn't have to step up and contest elite pull-up shooters.
This series is I think is the one that gives Kobe the edge on any conversation between him and Duncan. They’ve had numerous battles, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2008,
But this one both have no excuse:
Duncan coming off a championship with a veteran/experienced team.
Kobe has inexperience team but has Gasol.
Advantage players-wise goes to Spurs, as veterans plays a huge role.
However, as Art of War indicates knowing your opponent vs not knowing your opponent is like night and day.
Lakers coaching staff knows the Spurs very well, how they attack, what their defensive strategy.
On the other hand, Spurs coaching staff have never faced this Lakers team before, the newly acquired Gasol had impacted the lakers in numerous ways, their attacking points are different compared the Kobe-Shaq era that Popovich and his group are accustomed to.
So that was they key to the series going the Lakers way.
gasol was a no show this series
Maybe Manu averaged like 11 PPG after 20 in the RS and Duncan already in his decline is partially why? And the fact they had 3 title runs in 5 years, Kobe has 3 years of nothingness allowing him rest
@@WORLDWIDESOCAL9 Only delulu Kobe and LeBron fans always make excuses and reasons why their team mates are bums. lmfao.
Watching the game. Bruce Bowen ALL NBA first team defender is guarding Kobe, forced Kobe left right into Duncan, and Kobe still lit their asses up. I don't want to hear anything about Duncan being better. If Duncan was better, the Spurs win. Simple.
Duncan's teammates scored more points then Kobe's teammates. Kobe destroyed Duncan on the offensive end. Never was a debate. Just a bunch of nerds who look at fg% trying to force this debate. And yes, Kobe is better then Lebron.
@@MikeBNumba6 Never was a debate? lol
This is the lone series Kobe played against Duncan where he didn’t have one of the ten greatest players ever in his prime by his side 😂
Duncan was competing against two current top 5 players in 01/02/03/04 with an aged Robinson or a teenage Parker as his running mate 😂😂😂
Try again
This is the greatest playoff game I've ever seen
Horrible take
Show him another playoff game where a guard is hitting floaters and fadeaways over 7 foot hall of famers then if you dislike his opinion bucko.... @hardwoodthought1213
@@Carolinagunsmoke Ummm, there’s hundreds of them? The fuck are you talking about?
I’ll take Duncan getting a quadruple double in a close out game in an NBA finals over this
Or LBJ scoring his teams last 30 points in a conference finals
Or maybe 99 other playoff games
@@hardwoodthought1213 name em...put a link in the comments if it's that many..
@@hardwoodthought1213 I'll take kobe scoring 48 and 16 rebs against kings in '01 though...
If you watch today vs in this era , basketball if more beautiful in kobe’s era
It never was a kobe era
@@Guccimane0713okay , so who’s era did he 3peat, and win 5 chips outta 7 attempts ?
@@Guccimane0713Kobe's era
@Vortex_Feedz Duncan he has won 3 in the 2000s won two mvps 3fmvps
@Guccimane0713 FOH it was kobes Era u hating SOB
My Legendary Childhood GOAT R.I.P Kobe Bryant AkA Black Mamba The 5 Time NBA World Champion AkA The Greatest of All Time
Kobe beat the spurs so easy Lebron had to team up with Wade bosh Allen Battier Lewis to beat the Spurs.And he says he's the goat.Hes not top ten all-time at all.What a shame. R.i.p Kobe you was a dawg
Yessir Dawg
Bro said Allen, battier, and Lewis🤣I can’t take u kobe fans serious
lol yall insecure Bron doesn’t have anything to do with this video
@@jps0583whatever
@@FireAngelChris whatever
Kobe legend
Kobe was killing them on the interior in the first half.
The second half he hit them with his midrange game.
They had no idea what to do with Kobe!
I miss Kobe. At least I got to watch one of his game in Staples. ❤ from Indonesia
6:22 "Guard that sh*t."
We know Kobe was up to something that night by propelling his team to victory.
That Bruce Bowen interview at half time was hilarious 😆😆
People don't bring up the 08 run often enough. They destroyed a PEAK Spurs team. Manu, Tim and Tony were all in their primes
There's a new wave of basketball reference hipsters who believe Duncan is better than Kobe even though they haven't watched them play. Just refer them to this game whenever one of them tires to sound smart
Idk how you can compare the two…different positions and they effect their teams differently but even tho I rank Kobe 3 spots ahead Timmy on my all time list Duncan was JUST AS DEADLY N GREAT AS BEAN….DONT be fooled bro the guy did win 5 also in a very competitive era .
@T.O.Parker m o r o n take.. you should have stay shut up
It’s just another false narrative to downplay Kobe.. The real ones know 💯
@@ThatNiggaNedStarkReal casuals know. Fans of basketball know it’s Duncan
@@T.O.ParkerDuncan never repeated. Kobe did twice. Kobe 4 and 2 over Duncan in the playoffs. I love Duncan but he is nowhere near Kobe. Duncan and LeBron should be compared to each other and I have Duncan over LeBron
Kobe is way better than Lebron. It's not even close.
It's close but Kobe is better imo. That's the debate we should be having. Not this media-driven LeBron v Jordan debate. THAT is not close.
its definitely close
The best ever 🐍🙏🏾
Hidden facts
You can literally see the dedication in all of his movement. Truly a fresh of breath air to seeing vs modern nba playstyle.
Kobe is the real goat
Look at Kobes supporting cast vs every other ring since he retired... Kobe is top 2 all-time for a reason. he didnt need a super team to win. 5-2 staying in the tough WEST. His whole career.
Kobe Bryant was just a great player that loved the game so much and he will be forever missed as a person and when I hear and see him speak on these videos it makes me smile knowing I saw him play on television so many times. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
This the same team that swept lebron in 07 but they don’t talk about that part
Yes the swept lebron in 07 in the finals in the same year Kobe got first rounded
@@tridra5714 big difference is lakers we’re like 7th seed and Cavs were the 2nd
@@tridra5714Kobe’s team was awful compared to brons
U comparing year 4 Lebron to mvp Kobe ain’t the gotcha moment u think it is buddy
@@yoitsSmitty2004brons team was also awful
The defensive scheme was having Bruce Bowens forcing Kobe to the left, which was meant to have Duncan at the paint. Not only Kobe, as right handed, attacked the left side, but also forced the game before the defensive scheme was up, surprising the defense into not contesting the shots. Lastly, he used his gravitas to open up to 2 people who did actually made their shots. If it was not enough, Kobe's vertical is not that impressive, but the control, power and aim to make a shoot whilst on downward motion allowed to make incredible shots. A true .8 toyota turned into a Bugatti.
Hard to believe this was 12 years ago. Anyone who says that Duncan had that era never saw this series.
So skilled. Poetry in motion.
😂 Vujacic shot the 3 at the end
They woulda fought over that today
@@dagealbert244 yea true
he wanted it bad too💯 a buzzer beater in the wcf is tuff tho🤣🤣
You never know what you got until it's gone. One of a kind.🔥🔥
If Kobe would’ve beat the Celtics in the 2008 finals, he would’ve 3 peat 2 times…. then we will be having a different conversation of who the GOAT is 🐍🙏🏾💯
They didn't have Bynum or Ariza against Boston.
Look at how congested the paint is. Man, I would love to see Kobe coming into the league now. Sheeeeesh.
This is the basketball I remember watching. Wtf happened bro? NBA died w Kobe. RIP.
Lol old NBA scores be hilarious because it was 64-63 to start the 4th and ended 100-92 lol. It's like everyone got tired of defense and turned up the offense.
This is what the lakers are missing today. The heart and will to win. Every game Kobe have it his all to win and you always had a chance.
If you run into anyone that claims Tim Duncan was better than Kobe just point them to the fourth quarter of this game. Both guys in their primes and Kobe is just abusing Duncan over and over again.
Duncan was 32. He wasn’t in his prime.
Go back and look at what Duncan did in 99 or 03 to Kobe AND Shaq
Kobe abused Duncan & the Spurs more than any other player. I’m sure the Spurs had nightmares about him.
@@rchamp247 They did not
@@hardwoodthought1213 They probably did. Could never figure out how to stop Kobe in the golden years
Hope everyone is having a good night/morning
The best laker of all time Kobe 🙂↕️
Kobe Bryant legend
Kobe the greatest a few players made you feel this way
when you think about it, this lakers line up is today's starting 5, only 1 big on the floor
5 sporadic championships (1 in shortened season) in 15 years span cannot be greater than a threepeat and a back2back in a decade span.
Kobe2000-2010: most points scored, most championship (5), most finals appearance (7) clearly player of the decade.
I remember watching those games against the spurs. I was never afraid of timmy.
It was Tony Parker and his stupid floater. TP won a fmvps over timmy too. Which goes overlooked.
@@manz7860So to be clear, when SA faced LA in 99, 01, 02, 03 and 04, it was Parker you were afraid of?
More MVPs, more FMVPs, more combined All-NBA-All-Defence, better peak (03), better longevity, less help, better leader and teammate.
Duncan clears.
Also, did Kobe play in 99?
@@hardwoodthought1213 tell me all about Duncan's record against Kobe in the playoffs.
@@hardwoodthought1213 Tony Parker won a fmvp over tim duncan 😂
I don't understand y Kobe always get knocked for winning 3peat w/Shaq considering opinion by most media always put him& Shaq in bottom half of top ten list while Kareem & Magic be like in top 5. Not to mention the 5 LAKERS' chips in 80s had 4 of top 75 players (3 in each chip).
And Kobe was the only player in the shot clock era to win back2back w/o top 75 teammate, a great feat that rarely mention in the mainstream sport media.
In 08 he took on the loaded Celtics w/ prime 3 of top 75 players (go check Pierce Garnett Allen stats in 07 the season before) to six games. Yet other greats who got swept in the Finals got relatively easy passes.
Yo that interview was funny AF
This was such a great win!
Mind you this is the year after the Spurs who were the defending champions beat the supposed 🐐 . So don’t let bron stans lie and make it seem like they were out of their prime in 1 year 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣
Spurs have so many choke jobs that go unaddressed. Saw one kid trying to say Tim over kobe because the team was more often in contention.
The part I had an issue with was including years like getting knocked out by the #8 seed grizzlies and many other dissapponting years.
@@manz7860 that grizzles series NEVER EVER get talked about
That footwork is a lost art. RIP Mamba.
i forgot how strong this Spurs was. look at that lineup omg.
Doug Collins and Kobe Bryant is Basketball Nirvana
Kobe the reason I'm a laker fan. Respect to the mamba. RIP❤
It can’t get any closer between these two Playoff series wins: Kobe 4, Duncan 3; MVPs: Kobe 1, Duncan 2; Championships: Kobe 5, Duncan 5; Finals MVPs: Kobe 2, Duncan 3; All Star Game MVPs: Kobe 4, Duncan 1
Duncan does not have three playoff series wins vs Kobe he has two.
Tim duncan gold medals: 🥉
Kobe gold medals: 2 🏅 🥇
@@anthonygonzalezzzzzexactly. He probably meant 2013, which Kobe didnt play. That was Duncan vs Dwight
@@sub4subbalkan653Kobe would have lost 2013 tho
lmaoooo Vujacic's 3 at the end
yall Kobe back to back run is too underrated!
Duncan had some pretty crazy upsets if you think about all of them
Examples?
No one ever talks about how the spurs would clear LeBron every year almost but Kobe would clear Duncan and the spurs every year !
Aye sombody show this to Norris Cole since he got something to say about Duncan in Kobe era
Kobe torching duncan
8x All-D when asked how to guard kobe in the playoffs… “who knows”😂
This isn't that long ago but man look at the lack of spacing 😮 so much has changed
Kobe was simply vicious. Sadly the Laker organization won’t see heights like this for a long time.
They left this man in his prime with Odom and a bunch of G leaguers. Unbelievable
Kobe treated Duncan this game and this entire series like he was Rudy Gobert
This is some beautiful basketball such a good era for some reason it just felt more professional and important
The most skilled player ever
2000-2010 best era in basketball
Lebron could never do this
Kobe forced so many bad shots, but he was able to convert somehow. Let me see his percentage in this game... 53%, that's impressive
Kobe averaged 29 pts on 50%+ FG and only 2 FTA per game for the series. Thats with Bruce Bowen guarding him and Tim Duncan is behind Bruce
@@ntopacio74 lol
kobeeeeeeeee
who miss MVP chant all over the arena in US???
What a series the spurs vs Celtics would've been
That Spurs team barely escaped the Hornets in round 2. To think we could have had Kobe vs CP3.
We had it in 2011 though.
Barley getting past the 08 hornets 🚮is crazy in 2024
@@TerranceFoster-kw4sw 08 hornets wasnt bad fool
Love Kobe, but also kind of insane that the Spurs had another championship run after this against Miami
So good
The fact that Kobe continuously hunted and attacked an all-time defensive player in Tim Duncan speaks volumes
Hunted him on the perimeter. If it was that easy to move a guard to the post, Duncan would have done the same to Kobe.
Instead, for the first 5 of the 6 series played, Duncan was battling Shaq whilst having basically no one on his team capable of providing above average offensive help. For those same 5 series, Kobe again had… peak Shaq drawing doubles every touch 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kobe was the best Laker in every Laker Spurs series after 1999. Look at the numbers. He’s abused Duncan & the Spurs more than any other player. Kobe’s 4-2 vs him in the playoffs
@@rchamp247 Yes, again because Shaq was doubled by Robinson and Duncan, leaving Kobe 1v1 against Avery Johnson, or Antonio Daniels, or Bruce Bowen.
In those same 5 series with Shaq, Duncan had a past his prime Robinson or a teenage Parker as his best offensive help.
Try again. Kobes 4-2 because for 5 of them he had a top ten player all time in his prime with him 😂
@@hardwoodthought1213 Lame excuses. The Spurs just never had an answer for Kobe. He torched them year after year, with & without Shaq😂. I’m sorry you Spurs fans had to feel his wrath
8:25 is just beautiful
This should’ve been the 1st of his 2nd 3-peat. So close.
Duncan’s top ten Kobe top 2 mj then mamba
Kobe force this win with a trip to the finals on the line.
only reason Kobe gets downplayed is because he had some seasons that the lakers were struggling to get back into real contention dispite his other worldly performances thats why he only has 1 mvp but man from the eye test and vivid memories of what he did on the court he’s in the Conversation with MJ,Bron
Kobe vs. TD, Manu, Parker and one of the best toughest defenders around in Bruce Bowen. Going to the cup with TD, BB and two other bodies hanging on him and making it look routine. Seriously, just take a look. And at the end when he's being interviewed, just look at his teammates. Besides Gasol and with all due respect, they were a bunch of role players and scrubs.
Top 2 ever. Mamba Forever
Kobe and Gasol were deadly, but what gets overlooked is Fisher's dirty ass defense
Kobe footwork is only second to Olajuwon
phil literally owns greg
Ppl say Duncan better than Kobe but Kobe whooped his ass most times they played
Duncan had a more consistent career, but never came close to the peaks that kobe enjoyed
When was Kobe close to 2003 Duncan?
@@hardwoodthought1213 how many championships did timmy defend?
@@hardwoodthought1213 In 2003. By 2005/2006, Kobe was miles ahead of Duncan.
@@rchamp247 More like by 07. In 05 Duncan was a Champion and FMVP, Kobe was missing the playoffs. In 06, Duncan was still winning playoff series and averaging 32/14/5 v Dallas in the second round. Kobe was losing in round 1 blowing a 3-1 lead.
But even with Kobe being better from 07-13, Duncan was better from 98-06…
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kobe’s numbers were way better than Duncan’s by 05/06. Kobe took a g-league roster to the playoffs & duncan played on a deep, contending roster. And he still couldn’t defend any of his championships😂
I would like a Tim Duncan prime steak please.
Well done.
Duncan losing weight after 2010 extended his career a few more years.
This was the best version of kobe, if they had got gasol at the start of the season, they would have had better chemistry to beat the celtics.
I don't think chemistry had anything to do with it. It was the inexperience & lack of toughness w/ the supporting cast.
@@OC.TINYYY Rigged
In this era, no one benefitted more- but still in this case it is refs that can swing the outcome however it becomes a mandate.
How many shots did Kobe hit right in Duncan's face? I never want to hear Duncan being the better player ever again. No Bynum or Ariza either
If yu think Duncan better than Kobe you clearly don’t kno ball. Tim Duncan played wit a dynasty his whole career. Kobe got it out the mud fr. The spurs whole starting 5 HOFs
Kobe made Duncan look like a trash defender
On the perimeter, big deal
@@hardwoodthought1213He’s got a few dunks on your precious Duncan too😂 And a 4-2 playoff record on him
I dont care what anyone say... kobe's finals reign from 08 - 10 is more impressive than LeBron's finals reign at the miami heat during the 10 - 14 season...
Kobe faced real threats in his conference and he beat them without super teams.. LeBron's run on the other hand were absolute cakewalks the only legit threat at his conference at that time were bulls and sometimes the pacers.. the rest were dog waters...
Kobe 08 - 10 .. finals record is 2 - 1
LeBron 10 - 14.. finals record is 2 - 2
Kobe abused the Spurs. Made it his mission to bust their shit every time. He had to have averaged almost 30 against them in the playoffs
Take me out Kobe style
Was the color commentator rooting for the Spurs or something?
what happend to kobe and lebron in their finals after dominant conference finals needs to be studied. kobe was far more effective than lebron in the 08 finals compared to when lebron shut down derrick rose in 2011. but neither were their normal selves.
Kobe Would Have 8 or Nine Rings if he didn't have to see those spurs and he swept the spurs Before
His 2nd best player for 3 years of his prime was Lamar Odom. And then a huge gap after that to the 3rd best (whoever it was)
@@sub4subbalkan653His own fault tho, so why should he get a pass?
So how is Duncan better than Kobe again? For this series, Duncan had way more help as Gasol only avg 13ppg lol.
People say Kobe can't carry a team. FOH
Had Duncan avg 30ppg, Spurs win this series. Simple as that
Can you even picture Kobe losing to Denver 11-12 straight? Like Lebum? Before eeking one out. No way.
That would never had happen Kobe is Kobe Lebron is definitely No KOBE , Kobe grinder out playoff wins him and Shaq together unstoppable fisher was money in the playoffs big shot after big shot and of course they had the best coach money can buy Phil Jackson…that’s when the lakers did things the right way in the front office. Now these days they are so lost Pelinka ‘s job is on the line you already lost out on the best coaching candidate in Budenholzer why because your listening to Lebron again now we’re getting another no experience coach JJ Redick gonna be the coach!?! Pelinka is Wasting time going after trades and players he needs to pounce on this players and make some great deals Dejounte Murray is sitting there waiting for the lakers to trade for him yet they are sitting on their hands doing nothing I think the entire front office should be fired because of how poorly they are going after players n coaches it’s just an embarrassment… Stop letting Lebron & Rich Paul dictate who plays for the team and who coaches it because it isn’t working in 6 yrs that Lebron has been here he has gotten to the Finals once 1 chip in 6 yrs I say his time as a laker has been a failure this the Los Angeles Lakers we don’t accept mediocre or half ass coaches or players we expect EXCELLENCE!! Lakers fans don’t tolerate bad players or bad coaches but The current front office is really a Mom n Pop Shop with nobody with a back bone like Jerry West to guide youth by the way the year you got Lebron you had a chance to hire back Jerry West instead you went with Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka than Jeannie Buss screws that up with Magic and Magic quits than you hire Rob Pelinka Kobe’s guy as GM with No Experience than you add VP of Basketball Operation on top of being a GM again with zero experience tell me WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING JEANNIE BUSS !?!? Now Rob already missed out this off season on Mike Budenholzer clearly the best candidate out there why because you didn’t pick up the phone and call Phoenix did it the same night the got eliminated that’s the difference when going after top talent you have to be on it and this front office hasn’t been on top of anything since Dr Jerry Buss passed away it’s time to get back to doing things the Lakers Way Not the Jeannie Buss Way or The Rob Pelinka Way !! You both need to get your thumbs out of your butts and get back to making quick and correct decisions regarding the lakers or suffer again an early exit or worse don’t even make the playoffs
You know Kobe lost to Lob City 12 straight times, right? At least LBJ lost to a champion, Kobe lost a dozen straight to a team who didn’t even make a conference finals LMFAO