Imperial: Name one bad idea the Empire's ever had. Rebel: Swapping the BARC for 74-Z. Imperial: Name two more. Rebel: Blowing up Alderaan and betting everything on the Death Star. ...Twice. Imperial: Go f*** yourself.
@@danishsyed1068 Always said, The Tarkin Doctrine was stupid as hell. They could have built A LOT of star destroyers for what each Death Star cost. Not to mention Fear Tactics alone never keep anyone in line. It just gives them motivation to pick a fight. Grand Admiral Thrawn > Gand Moff Tarken every time.
Do y’all not realise the defeat of the empire is absolutely not reliable to Imperial vehicle at all ? Everything political, rebels would have lost no matter the imperial equipement quality.
A truly underused Clone Wars vehicle especially in Legends. Good thing The Clone Wars 2008 compensated in giving us more of these in action. Edit: Not a fan of their BF 2015 and BF2 2017 takes though. Their being nerfed there doesn't give both speeders proper justice.
Inaccurate. The majority of Republic military from the Clone Wars were regional armies, rag tag local sector fleets and armies. Most film focuses solely on the highlights and the more pivotal battles of the clone and droid armies, but for the grand deal it was a far more limited force. The Empire replaced all regional forces with the Imperial Army and then their elite Stormtrooper Corps on top of that as the galactic force. It expanded from a scale of tens of billions to tens of trillions. In many aspects such as total training for all roles, troop armor, individual purpose armaments for troops, hover tanks, capital ships, later fighter designs, all vastly outstripped the Republic's
@@pubcle The Republic had the excuse of being dragged into a war they weren't prepared for after 1000 years of near total peace. The Empire on the other hand cheaped out more than once in situations where they really shouldn't have. The Tie Fighter for example.
@@kaimagnus5760 The TIE Fighter was fit for purpose: screening in conventional warfare and policing sectors. It had the firepower, agility, and pilot to be a successful deployment for its prime focus and was more than enough prior to the Rebellion adopting its hit and run hyperspace capable fighter tactics. When the TIE became insufficient as a result, they switched to the Interceptor which while lacking shields was one of the best fighters produced at scale, having incredible speed and firepower enough to offset its flaws, take full advantage of its fighter pilot training program, and do the prime goal: hunt and occupy fighters away from the capital ships. The Empire had the excuse of rearming and expanding its military to literally 1000 times the size in every dimension within 10 years
Pls, don’t u understand the republic IS ALREADY the empire at this point ? From the first order of clone army to buying vessel and vehicles it’s palpatine who order that.
Commander neyo would like to have a word with you. The entire mobile reconaissance corp as a very similar kind of helmet to that of stormtroopers. Compared to scout troopers their visors were trash, especially when you consider their role as recon troops.
One of my older clonewars sets for the republic gunship has a speeder in the back, it was not a BARC, but a reused 74-z from older sets included into the set, I would now like to pretend those poor sods who ran the gunship were some of the first troopers to have to use it.
Consider that in Rebels, the Empire used slave labor for construction, with high incidents of sabotage. With the Republic bikes, they were made by paid crew, so quality mattered.
What’s crazy is speeder bikes could fly in the skies of coruscant as well as just hover on the ground I tend to forget that because most of the shows especially in the animated clone wars series they are mostly shown in combat roles. Imperial scout troopers have a pretty terrible bike and they get killed because of that but they honestly deserve it scout troopers are arrogant af especially to the regular storm troopers even though they are part of the storm trooper core I believe I saw a video about them scout troopers actually were doing drag racing when the rest of the Barricks were asleep which pissed everyone off.
And again, the First Galactic Empire managed to pay more for less. Just because they did not like BARCs. Maybe it would have been wiser to strip them of their fairings and put some new ones on...with a more imperial design?
I like how you have a cruiser riding position on the BARC. Unlike the imperial 1 where you in a sport bike stance. But at those speed the sport bike would be the best way to handle something that fast.
Yes, the Republic gets another win over the Empire! Considering how many past videos say things the Empire did better, it's nice to see the Republic get more wins now! WHOO! :)
not really you forget what the speeder is used for . its not attacking or cavalry charges but scouting and you dont need a fatass giant barc speeder for scouting just like you dont a fully blaster resistent dude for scouting. you have a wehraboo mentality that laserfocus on hard facts and ignore all the soft factors and role
What happened to the original Geetsly’s narrator? I feel like I haven’t heard him in a while, not that I mind the new ones, I just miss the inflections he used to use
I understand that this is just a result of out of universe art of at times lack of. However with how many civilian versions of speeder bikes are similar to the74-z during the time of the Empire, it's possible to the Empire wanted a a speeder bike that many people were familiar with. It's not often considered but if public spending dropped then the number of qualified technicians would have dropped to. Using a familiar type of engine might have let the more average man maintain the74-z properly.
Generation tech calculated the worth of the emperial/republic credit to be 1:1 with the American dollar and $9000 isn't that much for a top of the line motorcycle. So if you could somehow manage to get a way to buy on of these in the star wars universe you are good to go
It kinda sorta is tbh motorcycles generally run half of that in the high end unless its some one of a kind artisnal thing or a harley which is less top line and more a brand name thing
I realise it isn't a HUGE deal, but on a fan based channel I always find it important to have accuracy on both pronunciation and information overall. Maybe just me, I don't know.
I believe you are missing the main point. These speeders are ideal in a reconaissance and dispatch role but no amount of armour or firepower will make these things viable for actual combat. The pilot will always be exposed. Like the Wehrmacht abandoned it's attempts of making battle sidecar motorcycle mounted infantry and replaced them with Panzergrenadiers (motorcycles were still around, just in different roles) it would make sense for the empire to down arm their bikes, as to not provoke their speeder pilots to do more than their actual task of taking a look, relaying intel and a short firefight to break contact at most
How about the V-wing versus a Tie fighter, or a Tie defender versus an X-wing. Barc v 74-Z is just horses for courses. A Barc in civilian mode would have been cool and versatile.
The easy answer for why the Empire stopped using X in favor of the inferior Y: X was necessary when the Republic was fighting a relatively even match. Y was cheaper and more than effective enough to brutalize civilians and kill insurgents.
The empire wanted a mass army like the cis. It was more quantity instead of quality. Also the empire wasnt in a real war anymore. This is like asking why policemen dont use humvees instead of cruisers.
Did you day "Wedge _Anteels?"_ For real? It would be a minor quibble if someone from the general public mispronounced a beloved and well-known character's name, but it's a major faux pas coming from a dedicated _Star Wars_ CZcams channel. C'mon son.
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Can we have a documentary video on the AT-XT walker and why it’s supposedly superior to the later AT-ST walker?
Imperial: Name one bad idea the Empire's ever had.
Rebel: Swapping the BARC for 74-Z.
Imperial: Name two more.
Rebel: Blowing up Alderaan and betting everything on the Death Star. ...Twice.
Imperial: Go f*** yourself.
Rebel : Relying on the Tie and Tarkin Doctrine
@@danishsyed1068 Always said, The Tarkin Doctrine was stupid as hell. They could have built A LOT of star destroyers for what each Death Star cost. Not to mention Fear Tactics alone never keep anyone in line. It just gives them motivation to pick a fight.
Grand Admiral Thrawn > Gand Moff Tarken every time.
Do y’all not realise the defeat of the empire is absolutely not reliable to Imperial vehicle at all ? Everything political, rebels would have lost no matter the imperial equipement quality.
Imperial: Name two more
Rebel: Forcibly retiring the Clone Troopers, and favouring the Death Star over the TIE Defender
The Republic also used the 74z as well. The empire just went with the cheaper of the two.
i disagree the imperial speeder is well better for scouting . the barc speeder is too fat for that
Man I wish speeder bikes were real so we can All ride them
Eh, I'm still waiting for speeder cars to be a thing. Am getting tired of seeing glorified helicopter-car hybrids.
I would not want to be the first responders reporting to these wrecks
That'd be awesome
Same…
They pretty much are, they are called motorcycles.
The Empire really destroyed it's own economy. One of the reasons they had to move to cheaper gear
Jango teaching his clones to ride the BARC speeder: “this makes it go. This makes it stop.”
A truly underused Clone Wars vehicle especially in Legends. Good thing The Clone Wars 2008 compensated in giving us more of these in action.
Edit: Not a fan of their BF 2015 and BF2 2017 takes though. Their being nerfed there doesn't give both speeders proper justice.
Always seems like the Empire scaled back in quality when it comes to military technology from the Republic
Inaccurate.
The majority of Republic military from the Clone Wars were regional armies, rag tag local sector fleets and armies. Most film focuses solely on the highlights and the more pivotal battles of the clone and droid armies, but for the grand deal it was a far more limited force.
The Empire replaced all regional forces with the Imperial Army and then their elite Stormtrooper Corps on top of that as the galactic force. It expanded from a scale of tens of billions to tens of trillions. In many aspects such as total training for all roles, troop armor, individual purpose armaments for troops, hover tanks, capital ships, later fighter designs, all vastly outstripped the Republic's
@@pubcle The Republic had the excuse of being dragged into a war they weren't prepared for after 1000 years of near total peace. The Empire on the other hand cheaped out more than once in situations where they really shouldn't have. The Tie Fighter for example.
@@kaimagnus5760 The TIE Fighter was fit for purpose: screening in conventional warfare and policing sectors. It had the firepower, agility, and pilot to be a successful deployment for its prime focus and was more than enough prior to the Rebellion adopting its hit and run hyperspace capable fighter tactics. When the TIE became insufficient as a result, they switched to the Interceptor which while lacking shields was one of the best fighters produced at scale, having incredible speed and firepower enough to offset its flaws, take full advantage of its fighter pilot training program, and do the prime goal: hunt and occupy fighters away from the capital ships.
The Empire had the excuse of rearming and expanding its military to literally 1000 times the size in every dimension within 10 years
Pls, don’t u understand the republic IS ALREADY the empire at this point ? From the first order of clone army to buying vessel and vehicles it’s palpatine who order that.
The clone visors were more practical and made aiming a breeze
Commander neyo would like to have a word with you. The entire mobile reconaissance corp as a very similar kind of helmet to that of stormtroopers. Compared to scout troopers their visors were trash, especially when you consider their role as recon troops.
One of my older clonewars sets for the republic gunship has a speeder in the back, it was not a BARC, but a reused 74-z from older sets included into the set, I would now like to pretend those poor sods who ran the gunship were some of the first troopers to have to use it.
Consider that in Rebels, the Empire used slave labor for construction, with high incidents of sabotage. With the Republic bikes, they were made by paid crew, so quality mattered.
What’s crazy is speeder bikes could fly in the skies of coruscant as well as just hover on the ground I tend to forget that because most of the shows especially in the animated clone wars series they are mostly shown in combat roles. Imperial scout troopers have a pretty terrible bike and they get killed because of that but they honestly deserve it scout troopers are arrogant af especially to the regular storm troopers even though they are part of the storm trooper core I believe I saw a video about them scout troopers actually were doing drag racing when the rest of the Barricks were asleep which pissed everyone off.
Yes and the barracks set up a literal tripline as a fck you I am trying to sleep
@@gmailquinn lol
I believe it was Geetsly’s “Worst Stormtrooper Postings” or something close to that
@@sciathoir yeah probably unfortunately I don’t remember. But regardless this is my favorite Star Wars lore channel.
I always thought it looked cute how Rex sat on his little sidecar 🤣
Pfff hahaha y'a kssin yo robot mom with that mouth, bot?
Always used them in battlefront whenever i could to get behind enemy lines lol
Especially in BF 2004 for ramming purposes, even against Heroes.
@@michaelandreipalon359 04 BF2 was one of the best games ever made.
@@herrikudo That was released on 2005 though.
@@michaelandreipalon359 ah fair dos you are correct
Original battlefront 2 campaign, Endor, enough said
2:45 Delta 62 "Scorch" was right. That thing IS dangerous.
Speeders were always a hassle but at the very least you won’t die alone in a Republic Speeders.
The Republic, Grand Army of the Republic, Y-Wing vs TIE Bomber series…
Good idea!
Loved this ! I had no idea that there were so many different kinds lol its so cool when you find out new things lol
Cheaper option but also the fact that the empire was primarily a galactic peacekeeping force whereas the Republic was a smaller elite military force.
And again, the First Galactic Empire managed to pay more for less. Just because they did not like BARCs. Maybe it would have been wiser to strip them of their fairings and put some new ones on...with a more imperial design?
I like how you have a cruiser riding position on the BARC. Unlike the imperial 1 where you in a sport bike stance. But at those speed the sport bike would be the best way to handle something that fast.
the issue is they kind of ignored that they're prequels. all the tech is seemingly upgraded in the prequels
Yes, the Republic gets another win over the Empire! Considering how many past videos say things the Empire did better, it's nice to see the Republic get more wins now! WHOO! :)
*secretly smiles with the King Hell God Starfighter of Death in mind*
not really you forget what the speeder is used for . its not attacking or cavalry charges but scouting and you dont need a fatass giant barc speeder for scouting just like you dont a fully blaster resistent dude for scouting. you have a wehraboo mentality that laserfocus on hard facts and ignore all the soft factors and role
The fact that the BARC speeder shoots much better than the 74-Z speeder in the OG star wars bf 2
And in the new battlefront the 74-Z shoot much better
What happened to the original Geetsly’s narrator? I feel like I haven’t heard him in a while, not that I mind the new ones, I just miss the inflections he used to use
Regardless of your preference, both were a blast mowing down someone in 2004 Star Wars Battlefront
Do multiple guys run geetsly’s? I don’t watch every upload, I haven’t heard this voice before
I understand that this is just a result of out of universe art of at times lack of. However with how many civilian versions of speeder bikes are similar to the74-z during the time of the Empire, it's possible to the Empire wanted a a speeder bike that many people were familiar with. It's not often considered but if public spending dropped then the number of qualified technicians would have dropped to. Using a familiar type of engine might have let the more average man maintain the74-z properly.
also the imperial speeder is better for scouting
Freighters and smuggling vessels.
How about a blasters matchup between the DC-15S carbine and the E-11?
The empire spared no expenses for the stormtrooper corp.
Long live the empire
Generation tech calculated the worth of the emperial/republic credit to be 1:1 with the American dollar and $9000 isn't that much for a top of the line motorcycle. So if you could somehow manage to get a way to buy on of these in the star wars universe you are good to go
It kinda sorta is tbh motorcycles generally run half of that in the high end unless its some one of a kind artisnal thing or a harley which is less top line and more a brand name thing
@@mondaysinsanity8193 ok yeah I guess I can see
I realise it isn't a HUGE deal, but on a fan based channel I always find it important to have accuracy on both pronunciation and information overall. Maybe just me, I don't know.
I just don't like how the BARC seating is made, I like the 74Z's seat because leaning forward seems more immersive and controllable.
I believe you are missing the main point. These speeders are ideal in a reconaissance and dispatch role but no amount of armour or firepower will make these things viable for actual combat. The pilot will always be exposed. Like the Wehrmacht abandoned it's attempts of making battle sidecar motorcycle mounted infantry and replaced them with Panzergrenadiers (motorcycles were still around, just in different roles) it would make sense for the empire to down arm their bikes, as to not provoke their speeder pilots to do more than their actual task of taking a look, relaying intel and a short firefight to break contact at most
B.A.R.C. speeders are awesome and the 74-Z is cool to.
Great video
Can you do a video on the StealthX Starfighters used by Luke's New Jedi Order in Legends?
How about the V-wing versus a Tie fighter, or a Tie defender versus an X-wing. Barc v 74-Z is just horses for courses. A Barc in civilian mode would have been cool and versatile.
Empire went for price over efficiency
The easy answer for why the Empire stopped using X in favor of the inferior Y: X was necessary when the Republic was fighting a relatively even match. Y was cheaper and more than effective enough to brutalize civilians and kill insurgents.
Is there anything that matches or surpasses Republic stuff?
Wedge what?... oh no
The empire wanted a mass army like the cis. It was more quantity instead of quality. Also the empire wasnt in a real war anymore. This is like asking why policemen dont use humvees instead of cruisers.
To be fair u can only put some much armor on a bike and when that bike hits a pebble go fast as fuck no amount of armor is gonna do u any good
Then the first order used treads but we don't talk about that
What happened to the askeck segment of the videos??
Bro is watching a whole other CZcamsr 😂
At-At vs At-te
It's because they needed to sell toys.
LAAT v Imperial Gunship
Jeti?
what we learned today? the empire would prefer use worst equipment than use equipment that looked like it was from the republic
Sounds like typical imperial penny pinching.
Hi
The Senate is the most superior.
In battlefront 2 the 74-Z speeder is better
It was painful hearing Antilles pronounced like that
Did you day "Wedge _Anteels?"_ For real? It would be a minor quibble if someone from the general public mispronounced a beloved and well-known character's name, but it's a major faux pas coming from a dedicated _Star Wars_ CZcams channel. C'mon son.