According to the manual you have the speakers the wrong way around. I find the bass and treble controls a little lacklustre but the actual sound of each instrument is pretty precise. Overall a very good unit and cheaper than some high end equivalents. I would certainly recommend this hifi
After watching your video I tried listening specifically to the super tweeters. I noticed when I put an ear to the side of the speaker, the side which the super tweeter is on, that I could hear it. I also tried this while covering the normal tweeter and with both speakers and both ears. I was able to hear it every time.
My PMX94 also has no sound coming out of the piezo‘s and with a lot of bass you can hear them rattling a bit, happened with my PMX84 as well that I returned. Sounds really awesome still
Just got one last week cost me £249 from Panasonic outlet store saved me £50 from the original price not used it yet.will be getting better and longer speaker cable before I set it up for use
Hi. Does audio in auto play work for you? I connected the audiocast to this input, but when I turn on the song, the tower does not turn on automatically. You need to find the aux in option on the remote.
Without the super tweeter to reproduce the supersonic tones, no lower harmonic can be formed. The sound of any instrument is rich in harmonics and all of those harmonics, up and down the frequency spectrum, react with any and all of the other tones also up and down. This effect also explains why some people often hear an improvement in the lower frequencies." Please note: This letter was written in 1980 by Spencer Hughes in response to a question raised in the hi-fi press. This letter can be found in other places on the internet, but I am grateful to have received permission to reproduce it here from Spencer's son, Derek Hughes. Dear Sir, The Spendor BC1 was not, as it has so many times been described, a development of the BBC loudspeaker type LS3/6. Perhaps a short history of the lead into, and the development, of the two systems may be of interest. From the very early days, even before hi-fi, the BBC has designed its own monitor loudspeaker systems as commercial systems were not, and most are still not, accurate enough for broadcast work. These designs were based on available units matched by, what were in those days, very complex crossover networks and mounted in custom designed cabinets. During the mid-1960s, the development work carried out by the BBC had advanced to a stage which was beyond the capabilities of the available paper pulp cone bass units. The decision was taking to investigate the possibilities of using some form of plastic as a cone and surround material. It was assumed that plastic would be a consistent material unlike paper pulp, which to some degree seemed to depend on the mood of pulp stirrer. Over the years it has been found that it was not quite that easy. The section of the BBC Research Department involved in this operation was headed by Mr. Del Shorter, now retired, with Mr. H.D. Harwood now of Harbeth Acoustics, second in command and myself completing the investigating team. Some two years were spent making 12in unit cones in a variety of shapes and from a range of plastics; this could be a story on its own. The first successful unit was made from the now well-known Bextrene and used in the development of the BBC studio monitor type LS5/5. his loudspeaker was described in an article written by Mr. H.D. Harwood in the March 1968 issue of Wireless World. My part, as a laboratory technician, in the operation was to do most of the actual work both on the plastic investigation and the development of the LS5/5. With that experience I decided that it should be possible to make a loudspeaker from scratch in the home environment. With the aid of our electric fire, a compressor working in reverse and an iron bedstead the first vacuum former was built. Bins full of malformed cones were produced before any measure of success was achieved and the first 8in unit was produced. This unit turned out to be almost certainly the first commercial 8in Bextrene driver and still arguably the best. The first pair of BC1s was constructed using these units and Celestion HF1300 units. The cabinets were smaller than the current model and initial listening tests indicted that the performance could be improved by an increase in size, hence the present design. At this point it was all being done for fun. The second pair of BC1s was made for a friend who took them to Merrow Sound of Guildford. The third pair was sold to Merrow Sound and Spendor was on the way to a small niche in the audio world. Now some difficulties were beginning to arise as under the terms of my contract with the BBC, the design had to be offered to them. Fortunately the 'Pop' era had just started and the main request was for more power, so the BC1 was turned down. Around about this time there was a special requirement within the BBC for one pair of speakers about the size of the BC1s. Being a kind soul, I suggested that my design could be used, so I was given the task of producing an official version of the BC1, later designated the LS3/6. This design used an 8in unit made by Research Department, the Celestion HF1300 and a redesigned crossover. The main change in the crossover was the addition of a large multi-tap autotransformer to allow adjustment of levels between the two units, normal BBC practice at that time. Some months later BC1s were fitted with an amplifier mounted in the back panel and the 4001G super tweeter added. This addition was for purchase tax reasons, but it did have two extra gains. Firstly, it improved the overall dispersion characteristics, secondly, from the broadcasting angle, it made any 625-line breakthrough to be more easily detected. Now the LS3/6 was offered to a number of commercial companies and eventually taken by Rogers, then under the control of Jim Rogers. With approval, and a little assistance from the BBC, Rogers added the Celestion HF2000. As Spendor was now a commercial company it was agreed that a royalty should be paid to the BBC for each BC1 produced. This was in recognition of the work I had done on the loudspeaker whilst still employed by the BBC. To perhaps prove the order of development of the two systems, it is of note that out of over two thousand BC1s supplied to the professional market there are over six hundred in operation with the BBC and as far as I know very few, if any, LS3/6 speakers. In addition to the above, the name Spendor is derived from the first names of myself and my wife Dorothy. Mrs. Hughes provided practical assistance in the early days with her coil winding expertise and now as Managing Director is responsible for all accounting, sales and general management. Derek Hughes, the son, another ex-BBC employee, deals with an amplifier design and assists me with research and development and general running of the factory. Yours, Spencer Hughes
I have SA-PMX92 and the only think that i truly dislike about is its display , only 1 line and no no CD text option. Apart from that, it's pretty cool, good value for money .
End of the day its technics, its a nice looking little unit, you did the right thing by not buying the denon, however using pieze discs for tweeters is never a good idea, you wont hear them unless you are a bat.
Hi! Question about the mini system: when it's connected to your laptop via USB, can you adjust the unit's volume with the laptop's volume control, or are they adjusted independently?
The other model Panasonic SC-PMX802 costs a little bit more - The difference is inside - the PMX802 features the acclaimed JENO Engine amplifier from TECHNICS - but cosmetically the models look exactly the same . If anyone is about to buy this it might be worth looking at the new model .
Dear Mark, I am in this dilemma, which one is better to buy. Is the more expensive model worth that much more? In my country, the price is exactly double.
Hi Chad. Sorry for insisting, but I work/live in Kenya and there's no way to compare either before buying. I want (relatively) clean and loud audio. Does this panasonic blow away the Three in terms of sound quality/volume or are they comparable? I obviously prefer something smaller, but not at the expense of quality. I had too many underwhelming Bluetooth speakers in the last few years.
No it does not have Spotify but you can use the Bluetooth to stream it anyway. I don't see the point of Spotify when you have CZcams Music and Bluetooth.
@@mindtraveller100 because its not very loud and lacks bass. For the price I bought it(around 250$) its decent but its very far from me saying its "amazing". But comparing the value for money its good, any basic audio system that is good will run you at least 500$-700$+, which is double/triple the price. By adding additional soundbar and bass I was thinking of replacing missing ends for cheap, but opted out of that idea in the end.
Again! You did that American thing of showing the sound of your own voice rather than that of the system. You played the music for TWO SECONDS (I counted) and shut it right off, but you had to tell us you could "hear the CD spinning" 😂😂. The same strange thing happens with 99% of reviews on audio equipment, motorcycles and cars. Yap yap yap blah blah blah. European reviews consist of saying the essential and shutting right up to show how things sound and work: in other words, directing the attention to the product rather than to YOURSELF.
the reason why most audio reviews are just talking is clearly for a purpose and there are many factors at play . The reviewer often doesnt have the correct equipment and proper mic set up and proper room treatment to record stuff for playback online its just not the case with 90% of people . The viewer often is listening via youtube which compresses even lossless videos and squashes audio too , plus many folks listen on subpar system or cheap headphones . For all these reasons its way more logical to try and describe the sounds.
FYI, if you play more than 3 seconds of any popular artist's music in your video, CZcams will either take down and delete your video, or de-monitize it (meaning you will not earn any revenue for taking the time to setup, record, and post your video). That is why nearly everyone does not play actual music in their CZcams review videos of audio products. In addition, most people record these videos with their smartphone and a smartphone microphone will not give you a true representation of the actual sound of the system or speakers in the room. You have to use generic, royalty-free/copyright-free music if you want to play actual music in your video otherwise CZcams will remove it for copyright violation. Only the original artists or record label has the rights to post their music. You can get copyright-free music to play in these types of Audio Equipment Review Videos from sources such as TrackTribe, Soundstripe, or Epidemic Sounds.
It’s really unfortunate that CZcams or the copyright holders will take down your video when clearly you’re only using it to demonstrate a system, but that’s the reality of youtube. I’ve had a few videos pulled, so now I don’t bother. And even if I could play the music, it would be pointless as the viewer could not adequately judge the sound of not actually in the room. So the best I can do is give my impressions, and show you around the unit. But I always appreciate constructive criticism, so thank you. PS, I’m Canadian (but that’s still North American haha).
Это не HI-FI, слишком много восторгов, а по факту, средненький аппарат для непритязательного слушателя, если и брать, то, только с очень хорошей скидкой
Chyba sobie jaja robisz! Przede wszystkim wymień śmieszne, oryginalne okablowanie, na przynajmniej 2mm. Już dostrzeżesz różnicę. Kolumienki mają spory potencjał, bardzo dobry, punktowy bas, zatem nie rozumiem o co ci chodzi. Wygląda na to, że celowo oczerniasz produkt, a nawet w najmniejszym stopniu nie miałeś okazji go poznać. Ten zestaw przez kilka dni porównywałem brzmieniowo z Denonem D-M41, Yamahą MCR-B270D i Kenwoodem M-9000S. Jeśli chodzi o bogactwo sceny, tylko Yamaha zaoferowała podobne doznania dźwiękowe. Tyle że kosztuje prawie osiem stów więcej. Denon brzmi bardzo płasko, a Kenwood ma bas tragicznie rozlazły. Jak flaki wyjęte z oleju.
piezo speakers are fake speakers. they are very cheap, they are used in all kinds of toys. they were used in the 80-s boomboxes to make them look better. they don't have any magnet system. they were used in the 90-s mini systems so that the speakers could be called "3-way speakers".
According to the manual you have the speakers the wrong way around. I find the bass and treble controls a little lacklustre but the actual sound of each instrument is pretty precise. Overall a very good unit and cheaper than some high end equivalents. I would certainly recommend this hifi
I have the same model. Connects nicely to my TV on the optical cable. As you say. Decent bass. I’m pleased with it.
After watching your video I tried listening specifically to the super tweeters. I noticed when I put an ear to the side of the speaker, the side which the super tweeter is on, that I could hear it. I also tried this while covering the normal tweeter and with both speakers and both ears. I was able to hear it every time.
My PMX94 also has no sound coming out of the piezo‘s and with a lot of bass you can hear them rattling a bit, happened with my PMX84 as well that I returned. Sounds really awesome still
The supertweeters are for frequencies above 20kHz, it would be very suprising if you could hear them.
You cannot hear them, but they are necessary to reproduce the highest harmonic frequencies required to reproduce a typical sound.
@@joevr9633 No, they're just another audiophile snake oil.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like that metal table.
How does this system compare to the Klipsch in terms of loudness? Which one goes louder and which one has less distortion at loud volumes?
Did you try to close bass reflektory port to get better bass balance ?
Could sound from other devices be played through this? I've been planning on buying this to connect my crappy pickup to it for better sound quality
Thanks, and how is sound in comparison with your Klipsch? which model it is?
Great review - I'm also trying to decide between this and the Denon. Price, 3 way and watt rating were swaying me this way, but maybe not lol.
Hey, same issue here for me to choose between this and Denon DM41. What did you do finally? Cheers
All you need are $10 earbuds and a smartphone dude
also having this decision. Any update from anyone on their choice?
Just got one last week cost me £249 from Panasonic outlet store saved me £50 from the original price not used it yet.will be getting better and longer speaker cable before I set it up for use
Hi. Does audio in auto play work for you? I connected the audiocast to this input, but when I turn on the song, the tower does not turn on automatically. You need to find the aux in option on the remote.
Without the super tweeter to reproduce the supersonic tones, no lower harmonic can be formed. The sound of any instrument is rich in harmonics and all of those harmonics, up and down the frequency spectrum, react with any and all of the other tones also up and down. This effect also explains why some people often hear an improvement in the lower frequencies."
Please note: This letter was written in 1980 by Spencer Hughes in response to a question raised in the hi-fi press. This letter can be found in other places on the internet, but I am grateful to have received permission to reproduce it here from Spencer's son, Derek Hughes.
Dear Sir,
The Spendor BC1 was not, as it has so many times been described, a development of the BBC loudspeaker type LS3/6. Perhaps a short history of the lead into, and the development, of the two systems may be of interest.
From the very early days, even before hi-fi, the BBC has designed its own monitor loudspeaker systems as commercial systems were not, and most are still not, accurate enough for broadcast work. These designs were based on available units matched by, what were in those days, very complex crossover networks and mounted in custom designed cabinets.
During the mid-1960s, the development work carried out by the BBC had advanced to a stage which was beyond the capabilities of the available paper pulp cone bass units. The decision was taking to investigate the possibilities of using some form of plastic as a cone and surround material. It was assumed that plastic would be a consistent material unlike paper pulp, which to some degree seemed to depend on the mood of pulp stirrer. Over the years it has been found that it was not quite that easy.
The section of the BBC Research Department involved in this operation was headed by Mr. Del Shorter, now retired, with Mr. H.D. Harwood now of Harbeth Acoustics, second in command and myself completing the investigating team.
Some two years were spent making 12in unit cones in a variety of shapes and from a range of plastics; this could be a story on its own. The first successful unit was made from the now well-known Bextrene and used in the development of the BBC studio monitor type LS5/5. his loudspeaker was described in an article written by Mr. H.D. Harwood in the March 1968 issue of Wireless World.
My part, as a laboratory technician, in the operation was to do most of the actual work both on the plastic investigation and the development of the LS5/5. With that experience I decided that it should be possible to make a loudspeaker from scratch in the home environment. With the aid of our electric fire, a compressor working in reverse and an iron bedstead the first vacuum former was built. Bins full of malformed cones were produced before any measure of success was achieved and the first 8in unit was produced. This unit turned out to be almost certainly the first commercial 8in Bextrene driver and still arguably the best.
The first pair of BC1s was constructed using these units and Celestion HF1300 units. The cabinets were smaller than the current model and initial listening tests indicted that the performance could be improved by an increase in size, hence the present design. At this point it was all being done for fun.
The second pair of BC1s was made for a friend who took them to Merrow Sound of Guildford. The third pair was sold to Merrow Sound and Spendor was on the way to a small niche in the audio world.
Now some difficulties were beginning to arise as under the terms of my contract with the BBC, the design had to be offered to them. Fortunately the 'Pop' era had just started and the main request was for more power, so the BC1 was turned down. Around about this time there was a special requirement within the BBC for one pair of speakers about the size of the BC1s. Being a kind soul, I suggested that my design could be used, so I was given the task of producing an official version of the BC1, later designated the LS3/6.
This design used an 8in unit made by Research Department, the Celestion HF1300 and a redesigned crossover. The main change in the crossover was the addition of a large multi-tap autotransformer to allow adjustment of levels between the two units, normal BBC practice at that time.
Some months later BC1s were fitted with an amplifier mounted in the back panel and the 4001G super tweeter added. This addition was for purchase tax reasons, but it did have two extra gains. Firstly, it improved the overall dispersion characteristics, secondly, from the broadcasting angle, it made any 625-line breakthrough to be more easily detected.
Now the LS3/6 was offered to a number of commercial companies and eventually taken by Rogers, then under the control of Jim Rogers. With approval, and a little assistance from the BBC, Rogers added the Celestion HF2000.
As Spendor was now a commercial company it was agreed that a royalty should be paid to the BBC for each BC1 produced. This was in recognition of the work I had done on the loudspeaker whilst still employed by the BBC.
To perhaps prove the order of development of the two systems, it is of note that out of over two thousand BC1s supplied to the professional market there are over six hundred in operation with the BBC and as far as I know very few, if any, LS3/6 speakers.
In addition to the above, the name Spendor is derived from the first names of myself and my wife Dorothy. Mrs. Hughes provided practical assistance in the early days with her coil winding expertise and now as Managing Director is responsible for all accounting, sales and general management. Derek Hughes, the son, another ex-BBC employee, deals with an amplifier design and assists me with research and development and general running of the factory.
Yours,
Spencer Hughes
I have SA-PMX92 and the only think that i truly dislike about is its display , only 1 line and no no CD text option. Apart from that, it's pretty cool, good value for money .
End of the day its technics, its a nice looking little unit, you did the right thing by not buying the denon, however using pieze discs for tweeters is never a good idea, you wont hear them unless you are a bat.
Not loud 🔊 though but the Appearance looks good
Is this a model PANASONIC SC-PMX90EG-S ?
Hi! Question about the mini system: when it's connected to your laptop via USB, can you adjust the unit's volume with the laptop's volume control, or are they adjusted independently?
I only installed a driver. They are completely independent of each other.
I don't know but you can connect it with bluethooth. Then for sure you can control the volume.
Good morning. Moses. Eric
Just get a LG XBOOM CKM4 300W, also called LG CK43 300W. It's $149 USD and it's fantastic for the price, strong bass and clear sound.
So does it have banana plug?
The other model Panasonic SC-PMX802 costs a little bit more - The difference is inside - the PMX802 features the acclaimed JENO Engine amplifier from TECHNICS - but cosmetically the models look exactly the same . If anyone is about to buy this it might be worth looking at the new model .
Dear Mark, I am in this dilemma, which one is better to buy. Is the more expensive model worth that much more? In my country, the price is exactly double.
@@andraspa6836 they are both good - go with the cheaper one
Hi Chad. Sorry for insisting, but I work/live in Kenya and there's no way to compare either before buying. I want (relatively) clean and loud audio. Does this panasonic blow away the Three in terms of sound quality/volume or are they comparable? I obviously prefer something smaller, but not at the expense of quality. I had too many underwhelming Bluetooth speakers in the last few years.
When I play mp3s from usb stick, I don't know how to move to the next directory with my remote control. Help.
Just play some music ....dam
😂😂
😅
Less than 10 seconds he would have been fine. I have a slightly lease model coming. Ima test it and then post a review later
Is the Dac actually an Onkyo?
But wouldn't it make sense you don't hear the high frequency tweeters? Because human ear can only hear up to about 20kHz
I ordered this model last week from Amazon for $367.99.
Music played at 8:06 is Pink Floyd Animals first track
"If you didn't care what happened to me
And I didn't care for you" - 1 sec it is enough for me :).
Check, I have usb 3.0
Is there a problem? Because its port supports usb 1.5
And up to how many GB of storage does the usb port support?
Usb2 32 GB storage max
Hi, can you tell me, please, does this system support Spotify streaming?
yes, it has bluethooth
No it does not have Spotify but you can use the Bluetooth to stream it anyway. I don't see the point of Spotify when you have CZcams Music and Bluetooth.
haha you are right. I hear nothing coming out from those 'super tweeters'' not cool
It’s because they go over 20k hertz which we can’t hear.
@@nick7813 so why do they make them?
thank you for playing music it was very nice of you :-) what is point of your video to listen to your frustration about tweeter or what?
I'm new to hifi, why is the 3ohm cheesy if i may ask?
Worse 3d experience
How to connect to the computer? there is no sound. Maybe what drivers need to be downloaded?
download a driver for your brains first
Same problem here. The driver is problematic.
3-way loudspeakers!!!
Does it come with axillary port?
Yes 👍🏼
Does it auxiliary port?
Yes 👍🏼
What is the difference between the PMX90, PMX92, and the PMX94 ???
94 DAB
Lieliska iekārta.Es arī tādu nesen nopirku.
Is it possible to connect soundbar or additional speakers to it?
Tu nan
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Eric iggac
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Why?
@@mindtraveller100 because its not very loud and lacks bass. For the price I bought it(around 250$) its decent but its very far from me saying its "amazing". But comparing the value for money its good, any basic audio system that is good will run you at least 500$-700$+, which is double/triple the price. By adding additional soundbar and bass I was thinking of replacing missing ends for cheap, but opted out of that idea in the end.
Use cheap audio guy. 1 built a system for lesd than 200
00 that will shaje the walls amd sounds fantastic.!!!
Again! You did that American thing of showing the sound of your own voice rather than that of the system. You played the music for TWO SECONDS (I counted) and shut it right off, but you had to tell us you could "hear the CD spinning" 😂😂.
The same strange thing happens with 99% of reviews on audio equipment, motorcycles and cars. Yap yap yap blah blah blah. European reviews consist of saying the essential and shutting right up to show how things sound and work: in other words, directing the attention to the product rather than to YOURSELF.
the reason why most audio reviews are just talking is clearly for a purpose and there are many factors at play . The reviewer often doesnt have the correct equipment and proper mic set up and proper room treatment to record stuff for playback online its just not the case with 90% of people . The viewer often is listening via youtube which compresses even lossless videos and squashes audio too , plus many folks listen on subpar system or cheap headphones . For all these reasons its way more logical to try and describe the sounds.
FYI, if you play more than 3 seconds of any popular artist's music in your video, CZcams will either take down and delete your video, or de-monitize it (meaning you will not earn any revenue for taking the time to setup, record, and post your video). That is why nearly everyone does not play actual music in their CZcams review videos of audio products.
In addition, most people record these videos with their smartphone and a smartphone microphone will not give you a true representation of the actual sound of the system or speakers in the room.
You have to use generic, royalty-free/copyright-free music if you want to play actual music in your video otherwise CZcams will remove it for copyright violation. Only the original artists or record label has the rights to post their music.
You can get copyright-free music to play in these types of Audio Equipment Review Videos from sources such as TrackTribe, Soundstripe, or Epidemic Sounds.
How can you possibly hear how it sounds if you’re not in the room listening to it? Through your phone speaker?
It’s really unfortunate that CZcams or the copyright holders will take down your video when clearly you’re only using it to demonstrate a system, but that’s the reality of youtube. I’ve had a few videos pulled, so now I don’t bother. And even if I could play the music, it would be pointless as the viewer could not adequately judge the sound of not actually in the room. So the best I can do is give my impressions, and show you around the unit. But I always appreciate constructive criticism, so thank you. PS, I’m Canadian (but that’s still North American haha).
Man, who really gives a flying fuck? Oh wait, I already answered my question: you do apparently.
No. India👍🏻
Это не HI-FI, слишком много восторгов, а по факту, средненький аппарат для непритязательного слушателя, если и брать, то, только с очень хорошей скидкой
When is everyone going to stop the bullshit copyright false narratives! Playing music you bought does not VIOLATE COPYRIGHT!!!
Yes it does.
czcams.com/video/6eofD6bZ0m4/video.htmlsi=2U5Y9fgodQb5KLNM
czcams.com/video/R3NnrWrkKZM/video.htmlsi=oFLe8mBoVCeBDfYy
А где звук!!!!!!!!!!??!??
Sorry but without sound test it's useless review...👎
The sound is flat. Super tweeters are fake. I don't like this audio system.
super tweeters are not fake, you just cant hear them.
@@Strixeu can you? No sense something we can't hear them.
@@jorgenadernazur4770 what? its marketing, so they can say its 3way. they are connected but human ear cant hear them.
kupiłem gra bardzo bardzo cicho , szczegolnie na blutu i na innych wejsciach przereklamowany temat basy to jakiś śmiech radio w samochodzie lepiej gra
Послушай на средней громкости 3 месяца. Звук будет громче по Bluetooth.
Chyba sobie jaja robisz! Przede wszystkim wymień śmieszne, oryginalne okablowanie, na przynajmniej 2mm. Już dostrzeżesz różnicę. Kolumienki mają spory potencjał, bardzo dobry, punktowy bas, zatem nie rozumiem o co ci chodzi. Wygląda na to, że celowo oczerniasz produkt, a nawet w najmniejszym stopniu nie miałeś okazji go poznać. Ten zestaw przez kilka dni porównywałem brzmieniowo z Denonem D-M41, Yamahą MCR-B270D i Kenwoodem M-9000S. Jeśli chodzi o bogactwo sceny, tylko Yamaha zaoferowała podobne doznania dźwiękowe. Tyle że kosztuje prawie osiem stów więcej. Denon brzmi bardzo płasko, a Kenwood ma bas tragicznie rozlazły. Jak flaki wyjęte z oleju.
piezo speakers are fake speakers. they are very cheap, they are used in all kinds of toys. they were used in the 80-s boomboxes to make them look better. they don't have any magnet system. they were used in the 90-s mini systems so that the speakers could be called "3-way speakers".
Waste of time.