They aren't, people just coping hard on bennet when he is gonna be useless with kinnich who is never gonna stay in the circle, arlecchino moves a mere fraction of what kinnic moves and she is already extremely bad paired with bennet unless you are a masochist that wants to struggle staying on the circle
You could just... Not play Bennett. And have a good day. Some more investment in the characters will be necessary, but I've been enjoying a lot more characters by not having to constantly cringe at the Circle and NoDrip.
@@KategariYami with how spiral abyss is now, for attack scaling characters you literally have to have bennett or you'll struggle to even 6 star floor 12
@@KategariYami Arleccino on 4 star weapons without Bennet is meh tier. At that point I could just run Hyperbloom and I'd most likely have better result.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Kinich. His best team has xiangling. I want to play Childe, Lyney. They both want xiangling. I don't even try to play Dehya. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa." I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
as soon as mavuika comes out ill insta pull just to get rid of xianlings ludicrous ER needs. i just hope mavuika will consolidate both sub dps and atk buffing roles in 1 kit this will replace both xinaling and bennett in kinich team and will allow us to use a 4th flex character with shred such as xilonen/zhongli or literally baizhu with deepwood in addition to the core mavuika and emilie for kinich hopefully.
@@SToXC_. Because onfielders as a rule do more than off fielders in either damage or utility. If we had a better xiangling we wouldnt run two xianglings, we would run one xianglings and Arlechino or Lyney since they do like twice her damage.
@@thewingedone1172 and if we had a better xq, then we would put both of them (off fielders) together, OH WAIT, yeah we do (Hu Tao/Yelan/XQ/Zhongli Like yeah, on fielders often do more (unless say in quick swap teams like Tighnari-Yae where you can't say if either does more utility for the team since they consume approx. the same amount of on-field time), but with regards to your comment about "we wouldn't put 2 xianglings together", just remember that the same had been commented on Yelan about XQ and yet people still uses them together
Seeing that shark girl is an HP scaler I feel that pretty much confirms that Pyro archon is not a replacement for Bennett as an attack steroid. That’s just wishful thinking from copers. You’ll get another character who can give more generic/universal buffs but they’ll do it in a more consistent or convenient way that competes for pre c2 Furina’s slot. And then you’ll run that character alongside Bennett.
Is it really wishful thinking? I mean Kinich already moves a lot which makes the circle unreliable for buffs. If not the pyro archon it's safe to say that another support will be an attack buffer in the future
@@SoilworkWTactually every inazuma five character has bad energy generation with a gap in their uptime that just so happens to be Raiden shaped at 7-9 seconds long. It may not be the optimal way to play but Raiden certainly “fixes” ER for Ayaka, Yoimiya ,Yae, Kokomi, Ayato and Itto all of whom have bursts that they want to be using. It’s pretty clear that every 3.X character had a Raiden tax on their particle generation.
@@SoilworkWT Pre Sumeru I don't think Genshin devs were as good at creating the regional roster. Inazuma char kit feels recycled. Characters revolving around or benefitting from their regional archon started becoming a trend from sumeru
Now I am tempted to get him and skip Emilie even though I prefarmed the world boss mats and talent books for her. 😓 Maybe I will go for her during a rerun like you said.
I know he has his grapple hook thingy which gives him some range, but Im sure you wont be fully able to prevent some of the burning to dmg you, so Serpent Spine is kinda meh, right?
4:08 well I think it'll end up being kinich Emilie and then pyro archon with the support set. I also think pyro archon will consolidate the Bennet and xiangling's slots into 1. I really do think Emilie will be made redundant in the region right after her release
Can you talk about one of his passive where his cannon atk get increased by 320% of his atk for each stack he gets when party member triggers Nightsoul burst? Obviously we don't know yet how to trigger this, but if it's exclusive for Natlan characters, does this make Emilie's value for his team even lower?
@@pyronado4320 they do similar damage with probably alhaitham being slightly higher. Only difference is that alhaitham does thr minority of his teams damage while kinich does the majority.
We are due a Benny xiangling powercreep. Theyre from 1.0 and we are at 5.0, let's do it people! Give me heal, buffs and off field sub dps dmg in one. Im sick of them. Anyways I plan to use dehya (or am rn) anyway, you dont have to tell me it is worse dmg wise, idc.
4:35 holy that base atk. You know what that tells me. That tells me the pyro archon is gonna give a crap ton of atk percent buffs rather than flat atk. Otherwise this stat line would be bad
No IR in sight. Picking 300 ER Xiangling over a simple Mililleth E Dehya for the sole pyro applier role is a CHOICE and not a good one. Also, the whole idea that any atk scaler is automatically a Bennet slave is such a brain dead take.
this guy: arlecchino doesnt do damage without bennett me: well I guess my c0 arle with less than 2k atk and overcapped dmg% bonuses clearing content without problems (in a yelan zhongli chiori team all at c0 with no limited 5 star weaps) isnt doing any damage
You didn’t understand his point at all. He just meant that the damage difference of Arlecchino with Bennett is significantly higher than without Bennett. Clearing content is irrelevant to what he said, you can clear content with the weakest characters in the game still.
@@slothful7337 a weak character dealing no damage wouldnt be able to clear content. same thing with a supposedly strong character that deals little damage. the point is, hes over exaggerating arlecchinos reliance on bennett. zajef tends to over exaggerate how bad a character is too. the problem now is the association they made with bennett. some or maybe most people are stupid. they see this and might think that if a new character relies on bennett to work, then they are a bad character carried only by one of the few 6 stars in the game. which, for this case, is simply not true. Im making a point that arlecchino is a great character even without bennett. if you think she needs bennett to be even half decent, then youre stupid.
@@reinhartsantos5703 You stated that he said arlecchino does no damage without bennett, which he never stated, hence why I replied the way I did. Sure he exaggerated but anyone with basic knowledge on the game would understand what he meant. It’s not just arlecchino, you would also typically hear that xiangling is glued to bennett even though she is also fine without him. The same with playing an aggravate dps without fischl. They’re not saying these characters are unplayable and can’t clear content without their ideal supports, it’s simply just that you gain so much from them that you would always want to use them together. Stupid people are going to be stupid, you shouldn’t blame jstern for that. Also the point about me speaking about weak characters clearing content is because Arle is a top 3 character, meaning it would never be surprising that you cleared content with her without ideal supports (once again this relates to arle being fine without bennett, but still losing out on alot without him). You can clear content with hypercarry dehya, dori etc, the characters everyone calls the worst, once you give them good supports (and no they don’t need 5 star cons). I just thinking you’re taking his exaggeration too seriously. Again, most people would understand what he meant.
Can we stop with the narrative that cyno sucks as a character?cyno bis team Is literally One of the best st boss killer in the game especially After furina and baizhu joined his team.I have cyno c0 with bis,neuvi c0 with bis and arle c0 with Jade and the difference in clear Is 2 sec(all of them use furina C2).
Its actually true, cyno got alot better after getting buffed by nahida, baizhu and then furina But the agenda takes precedence i suppose, if the first impression is ass the character is ass forever
arlechino without Bennett isn't that much worse , you can use arlechino thoma chevruse fischl or arlechino zhongli yunjin C6 and yelan , both teams are very comfy and strong to use lol
Ok what... "Arlecchino is not a great character without Bennett" has got to be one of the wildest takes of all time. I don't play Bennett. And she's still great, if not amazing.
Her damage without Bennet is really just not impressive. With him she is arguably top 2 dps in the game, but without ? She'd be very in line with the inazuma characters. Tho she is extremely frontload which is always usefull.
I never liked Xiangling, I will always use Deyha for off field pyro app when needed as I have C1 and she does decent damage without needing ER or anything
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Mavuika, lying on the ground, covered in blood and bruises: "did we win?"
Xbalanque: "that was one Guoba fire breath"
💀💀💀
Hopefully Pyro Traveler saves the day lol
Imagine xiangling as anton chigurh vs any normal human (other off-field pyro)
The intro is wild
It's honestly frustrating that ATK scaller are so gimped by Bennet, and any pyro off field user is gimped by Xiangling.
They aren't, people just coping hard on bennet when he is gonna be useless with kinnich who is never gonna stay in the circle, arlecchino moves a mere fraction of what kinnic moves and she is already extremely bad paired with bennet unless you are a masochist that wants to struggle staying on the circle
You could just... Not play Bennett. And have a good day. Some more investment in the characters will be necessary, but I've been enjoying a lot more characters by not having to constantly cringe at the Circle and NoDrip.
@@KategariYami with how spiral abyss is now, for attack scaling characters you literally have to have bennett or you'll struggle to even 6 star floor 12
@@KategariYami Arleccino on 4 star weapons without Bennet is meh tier. At that point I could just run Hyperbloom and I'd most likely have better result.
@@Nugdud at that point its just skill issue
I full cleared with Ayato, Furina, Yelan, Jean on bot half lmao
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Kinich. His best team has xiangling. I want to play Childe, Lyney. They both want xiangling. I don't even try to play Dehya.
She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa."
I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
It never gets old haha🤣
as soon as mavuika comes out ill insta pull just to get rid of xianlings ludicrous ER needs. i just hope mavuika will consolidate both sub dps and atk buffing roles in 1 kit this will replace both xinaling and bennett in kinich team and will allow us to use a 4th flex character with shred such as xilonen/zhongli or literally baizhu with deepwood in addition to the core mavuika and emilie for kinich hopefully.
But then it just adds the problem of being able to put all 3 in a mono pyro team or have them on another team
@@Rayne-ih5yfI am not sure how is that a problem. Mono pyro with all 3 will suffer either from lack of onfielder or Kazuha.
@@thewingedone1172 How is the lack of on fielder an issue Lmao? what matters is the damage
@@SToXC_. Because onfielders as a rule do more than off fielders in either damage or utility. If we had a better xiangling we wouldnt run two xianglings, we would run one xianglings and Arlechino or Lyney since they do like twice her damage.
@@thewingedone1172 and if we had a better xq, then we would put both of them (off fielders) together, OH WAIT, yeah we do (Hu Tao/Yelan/XQ/Zhongli
Like yeah, on fielders often do more (unless say in quick swap teams like Tighnari-Yae where you can't say if either does more utility for the team since they consume approx. the same amount of on-field time), but with regards to your comment about "we wouldn't put 2 xianglings together", just remember that the same had been commented on Yelan about XQ and yet people still uses them together
“Xiangling, garbage character” is so true man
I loved the 1:55 gif that explain it very well lmao
Claymore user, Doesn't use his weapon in any of his kit. lmao
after seeing his animations, i'm definitely pulling for him
ajaw is so cool man i can't pass him
Seeing that shark girl is an HP scaler I feel that pretty much confirms that Pyro archon is not a replacement for Bennett as an attack steroid. That’s just wishful thinking from copers. You’ll get another character who can give more generic/universal buffs but they’ll do it in a more consistent or convenient way that competes for pre c2 Furina’s slot. And then you’ll run that character alongside Bennett.
Is it really wishful thinking? I mean Kinich already moves a lot which makes the circle unreliable for buffs. If not the pyro archon it's safe to say that another support will be an attack buffer in the future
We will most likely get an ATK buffer at some point but yeah I don't think it's going to be the pyro archon.
I dont see any sense here. How is raiden ER relevant to Yoimiya following your logic?
@@SoilworkWTactually every inazuma five character has bad energy generation with a gap in their uptime that just so happens to be Raiden shaped at 7-9 seconds long. It may not be the optimal way to play but Raiden certainly “fixes” ER for Ayaka, Yoimiya ,Yae, Kokomi, Ayato and Itto all of whom have bursts that they want to be using. It’s pretty clear that every 3.X character had a Raiden tax on their particle generation.
@@SoilworkWT Pre Sumeru I don't think Genshin devs were as good at creating the regional roster. Inazuma char kit feels recycled. Characters revolving around or benefitting from their regional archon started becoming a trend from sumeru
6:04 yall think this will age well or not after monday 🤔
He got buffed yay!
Xd Mualani is now the new Cyno with the further nerfs
she does 295k a hit after the nerf on she is still good💀
You're dented af if you think Mualani is as mid as Cyno
Thank you mr strimmer 👍
Now I am tempted to get him and skip Emilie even though I prefarmed the world boss mats and talent books for her. 😓 Maybe I will go for her during a rerun like you said.
in the exact same boat as u 🫡
H-he replaces my boy wriothesley??? 😨 .... I don't want him. I wait for Wriothesley rerun.
I know he has his grapple hook thingy which gives him some range, but Im sure you wont be fully able to prevent some of the burning to dmg you, so Serpent Spine is kinda meh, right?
he's somewhat ranged and it will be enough to sustain with bennett, you don't necessarily need to hug enemies
4:08 well I think it'll end up being kinich Emilie and then pyro archon with the support set. I also think pyro archon will consolidate the Bennet and xiangling's slots into 1.
I really do think Emilie will be made redundant in the region right after her release
Can you talk about one of his passive where his cannon atk get increased by 320% of his atk for each stack he gets when party member triggers Nightsoul burst? Obviously we don't know yet how to trigger this, but if it's exclusive for Natlan characters, does this make Emilie's value for his team even lower?
yes emilie is good dps but get mavuika first
@@vii8657 nightsoul is triggered by any elemental damage on an 18,12,or 9s cooldown depending on the number of natlan characters in a team
@@jstern25 Hmm can Kinich or Mualani able to get max stacks throughout their rotation with 9s cd? The cd is shared for the whole party members right?
@@vii8657 9s requires 3 natlan characters
You won't get that
On-fielder moves a lot and off-field dps don't snapshot but Bennett is still recommended ? At least make a disclaimer about that.
Dw Pyro Traveler will outright powercreep Xiangling!
ANYEHASEYO A REAL KINICH
The state of cryo video please
2:53 Kazuha Emelie Bennett too. What I’m running if I get him.
Do you think Kinich is going to powercreep Alhaitham?
They play in completely different niches so no
@@akamistifythey both deal damage and the only question is who's better generally
@@pyronado4320 that’s not what powercreep is.
@@akamistify yeah it's not if your definition of powercreep is different
@@pyronado4320 they do similar damage with probably alhaitham being slightly higher.
Only difference is that alhaitham does thr minority of his teams damage while kinich does the majority.
"His C2 is 1000%...", why does it say 100%?, plus, if you have Emille C2, doesn't Kinnich C2 lose value due to diminishing returns on shredding?
@@impostorsyndrome1350 resistance shred under 0 is half, most enemy base resistance is 10% yes
But that's not necessarily always the case
@@jstern25 thx for the explanation
So you keep one of them at c1.
Kinich is in the pyro archon waiting room
We are due a Benny xiangling powercreep. Theyre from 1.0 and we are at 5.0, let's do it people! Give me heal, buffs and off field sub dps dmg in one. Im sick of them. Anyways I plan to use dehya (or am rn) anyway, you dont have to tell me it is worse dmg wise, idc.
4:35 holy that base atk. You know what that tells me. That tells me the pyro archon is gonna give a crap ton of atk percent buffs rather than flat atk. Otherwise this stat line would be bad
No IR in sight. Picking 300 ER Xiangling over a simple Mililleth E Dehya for the sole pyro applier role is a CHOICE and not a good one. Also, the whole idea that any atk scaler is automatically a Bennet slave is such a brain dead take.
Summary: :D
5:29
5:53
Which tier does he belong to?
Can't you just use him with dehya on the new support set/tenacity?
???? That sounds 2x better than Cyno. 🤷♂️
question to anyone know : dose the pity rest after 6 months?
pity never resets
@@mickysaif ok thank you
i have a crush on you
this guy: arlecchino doesnt do damage without bennett
me: well I guess my c0 arle with less than 2k atk and overcapped dmg% bonuses clearing content without problems (in a yelan zhongli chiori team all at c0 with no limited 5 star weaps) isnt doing any damage
You didn’t understand his point at all. He just meant that the damage difference of Arlecchino with Bennett is significantly higher than without Bennett. Clearing content is irrelevant to what he said, you can clear content with the weakest characters in the game still.
@@slothful7337 a weak character dealing no damage wouldnt be able to clear content. same thing with a supposedly strong character that deals little damage.
the point is, hes over exaggerating arlecchinos reliance on bennett. zajef tends to over exaggerate how bad a character is too.
the problem now is the association they made with bennett. some or maybe most people are stupid. they see this and might think that if a new character relies on bennett to work, then they are a bad character carried only by one of the few 6 stars in the game. which, for this case, is simply not true.
Im making a point that arlecchino is a great character even without bennett. if you think she needs bennett to be even half decent, then youre stupid.
@@reinhartsantos5703 You stated that he said arlecchino does no damage without bennett, which he never stated, hence why I replied the way I did. Sure he exaggerated but anyone with basic knowledge on the game would understand what he meant. It’s not just arlecchino, you would also typically hear that xiangling is glued to bennett even though she is also fine without him. The same with playing an aggravate dps without fischl. They’re not saying these characters are unplayable and can’t clear content without their ideal supports, it’s simply just that you gain so much from them that you would always want to use them together. Stupid people are going to be stupid, you shouldn’t blame jstern for that. Also the point about me speaking about weak characters clearing content is because Arle is a top 3 character, meaning it would never be surprising that you cleared content with her without ideal supports (once again this relates to arle being fine without bennett, but still losing out on alot without him). You can clear content with hypercarry dehya, dori etc, the characters everyone calls the worst, once you give them good supports (and no they don’t need 5 star cons). I just thinking you’re taking his exaggeration too seriously. Again, most people would understand what he meant.
Can we stop with the narrative that cyno sucks as a character?cyno bis team Is literally One of the best st boss killer in the game especially After furina and baizhu joined his team.I have cyno c0 with bis,neuvi c0 with bis and arle c0 with Jade and the difference in clear Is 2 sec(all of them use furina C2).
Through mid justice is served
that boy cyno is powercreep kinich better stay in floor 1
Cyno coping in big 2024 is wild.
@@salto7080 Wanderer: YOU DARE GAZE UPON MID?!?!?!?
Its actually true, cyno got alot better after getting buffed by nahida, baizhu and then furina
But the agenda takes precedence i suppose, if the first impression is ass the character is ass forever
arlechino without Bennett isn't that much worse , you can use arlechino thoma chevruse fischl or arlechino zhongli yunjin C6 and yelan , both teams are very comfy and strong to use lol
that is only good with her signature or jade or else she does not dmg
Ok what... "Arlecchino is not a great character without Bennett" has got to be one of the wildest takes of all time.
I don't play Bennett. And she's still great, if not amazing.
Her damage without Bennet is really just not impressive. With him she is arguably top 2 dps in the game, but without ? She'd be very in line with the inazuma characters.
Tho she is extremely frontload which is always usefull.
@@jijidu69 Are we comparing her without Bennett to everyone with him?
@@jijidu69 any character who is used with Bennett, loses a lot without him, it's just how Bennett works lol.
@@jijidu69 What Inazuma character deals the same damage as her?
@@KategariYami They don't all use him. But to the ones that do yes.
Classic garbling 🌶
I never liked Xiangling, I will always use Deyha for off field pyro app when needed as I have C1 and she does decent damage without needing ER or anything