@@Papersheepp I still see Sweden coming from starboard, they had passed by the time NZL tacked - it looks more like they crashed their tack ... oh well, sad day for Sweden :-)
I love the racing. But PLEASE!!!!! No audience shots during the race. If for some reason you think we need to see something other than the boats together, show us more of the individual shots. You don't want to hear what my microphone hears when there is a good race on and you cut to the audience!
I disagree, production is fantastic. It's there to keep people invested, changing the pace with crowds is proven to keep people invested. Why you see it in every production
Was fortunate to watch the finals in person (first exposure to America's Cup racing) and hoping to be able to be in NZL for the next Cup. Way too much to understand as a newbie so leave the armchair refereeing to others. Just some incredible footage and fun to watch.
Was he 'over the start-line before the gun? The skippers 'time' the approach to the start exactly. If 'race-official 'on-the-line' observes any part of a boat cross ahead of the gun...(boat races usually start to an 'audible-signal').
Port starboard. Kiwis had right of way. People getting confused by the mark, nothing to do with the mark and giving room. Port boat keeps clear. Lead to kiwis making an emergency gybe and losing all speed.
@@MozzySails Nope you are confusing outside boat and inside boat rule which doesnt apply. Opposite tacks, Port starboard applies, winner winner chicken dinner
I didn’t watch any of this first time around but it’s caught my attention since. That final penalty against artemis shows that the penalty system needs attention. Surely. It’s was never a penalty. What a shame the sport should be so spoiled by errors like these.
Not rigged, The umpires have just 20secs to make a call, and they admitted afterwards, they got this one wrong. ETNZ went on to win the rest of the regatta convincingly
The umpires admitted later that day that they got the penalty wrong. Also... if the cup was rigged, it definitely wouldn't have been rigged in New Zealand's favor! On a side note, this wasn't the cup, or the Louis Vuitton. This was the challenger series. If Artemis had won this race, it wouldn't have made any difference in the long run.
Mike B its good to know this wasn’t an important race. Thanks for pointing that out However. It’s perfectly possible for the race to have been ‘favoured’ to ‘Emirates New Zealand’. Let’s not forget they are backed by one of the wealthiest organisations on the planet. The commentators have to say ‘emirates’ before the name of the place they come from. This says a lot to me. I’m British but will be cheering for American Magic in the next cup. simply because they are not using the sponsors name first. Unlike INEOS team uk. I’d love to see our dear sport free of corporate interference.
America's Cup I wasn’t attempting to take anything away from the kiwi’s. they are hands down best sailors on the planet. They proved that enough times. However. It’s saddens me deeply that this debacle presented to us a ‘umpiring’ is allowed to so badly deface the beautiful sport we love. I sincerely hope things have improved by the next cup. Decisions have to be correct. Instantly. I’m sure the technology exists to make this happen. So lets see it next time. Btw. Thanks for posting this. Sorry for the little outburst. I just hate to see such unfairness in sport
@@ficklemedia8733 - The reality of the America's cup is that if you want to run a successful campaign, you either need corporate sponsorship or a billionaire's checkbook. The America's cup is about innovation and sailing skill. To have the technology and the best sailors, you need the $$$. That's one of the amazing things about the New Zealand campaign - Larry Ellison (the Oracle billionaire behind Oracle Team USA) - could (and probably did) easily outspend Emirates Team New Zealand. New Zealand needed to think outside the box and beat the other teams with better ideas. Team NZ was just hours away from shutting down in 2015 due to lack of $$. As far as umpires being able to get it right 100% of the time - in the moment - I don't really think that's possible... I do, however, feel that it's important that the umpires were willing to admit that they made a mistake. As far as I'm aware, this was the only really bad call from the whole event, which when you consider how many races there were and the fact that they were racing such fast boats, I think the umpires did a really good job. Finally... if you're looking for a more pure form of sailing, the America's cup is not where you want to be looking. It's full of politics, egos, and dollars, but to be honest, that's probably a big part of what makes it so fascinating. You'll probably find more of what you're looking for if you go down to your local sailing club on the weekend - although you'll probably still have umpires making the occasional bad call...
Fantastic 'coverage' of groundbreaking technologies, applied to 'sport' ! The 'crew-persons' a board these craft are facing the ultimate risk. Bad things happen fast. I hope it is worth the risk. A 'wing-suit-jump' from Zermatt looks safer!
Fantastic race! Thanks for uploading! Was this the day that NZL used their light air boards in error? Would love to see more races from the challenger series!
On the 2nd foul, I believe that the commentating is erroneous. It says "there is an overlap." Not so: NZ arrives in the zone on starboard, while Sweden is on port. So the rule about leaving adequate mark room (by Sweden) and about a 'seaman-like' rounding (NZ) doesn't apply. The point, I think, is that NZ had to throw in an emergency gybe to avoid collision with Sweden (or at least, that's how they sold it: whether there would, in fact, have been contact is unclear). The only possible objection is that NZ (starboard right-of-way), by overstanding the mark in order to force a port-starboard encounter, wouldn't have been sailing its 'proper course' (the course it would take to finish fastest in the absence of any other boats), since gybing at the mark (where they did) would have been its proper course--except that there's no requirement, as far as I'm aware, to sail proper course in this situation. (There are precious few situations when a boat *must* sail its proper course.)
I just read that the Swedes fucked up and lost, now I've watched the race and can honestly say they crushed it. Well done - Besides, Artemis was the huntress god, so maybe without that start it would turn out different
it pumps the hydrolic pressure which is used to move all the parts on the boats. On more conventional boats the winching pulls ropes which move sails etc.
Penalty to start, Penalty to end.. both penalties were complete and utter BS.. I hate the newer boats, get the boats back into the water where they belong.. single hull like the old days..
Nah...burling was playing with him...tnz didn't want to show their hand early and also spoke of it later...they were only worried about winning the cup
Idea is that Sweden cannot block New Zealand within into two boat length circle around mark once New Zealand has entered that circle first -- but although Sweden also entered circle it did not effect New Zealand's course, so no foul.
I don't think NZ has to enter first. they just have to have an overlap when SWE enters. But it doesn't matter. The foul was call on the p/s cross. NZL was forced to jibe to port because SWE didn't yeild. ...or at least that is what I understand the call was.
What a poor call by the judge! I was cheering for the Kiwi's but this ranks right up there on BS meter along side that moronic call in AC34 where the judge called time's up with the Kiwi's a couple of minutes from the finish line to win the AC! Yes, rules are rules but why does it seem like every big money sport has rules like this to allow for calls like this one! This was an arbitrary call made so the Kiwi's would win the race! Unquestionable and Unbelievable!
Couldn't have been fixed as all the others wanted new Zealand out but couldn't beat them, the first penalty was correct but I think the second one was not correct . But the sweds certainly over the course of the competition gave us kiwis a good fight out there on the water, was brilliant to watch.
You don’t now what you’re talking about.......don’t you understand how much money they would lose if SWE won........2 penalty’s that even the speakers argued ......1 can happen but 2 and the penalty came up first when SWE was half way on the finish leg......That’s the facts a gentleman sport....OR.....
At 65 kts. closing speed the most radical, sick-crazy dial-down I have ever seen 12:52. 'Be brave'.
Fantastic that someone finally got this race back on the net again. There are more "gems" from the 35th, keep them coming.
Wow. Just discovered this sport last week. There's great tech and strategy behind, love it
Big Kiwi-Fan here, but this one should have gone to SWE.
Frank Black shenanigans for sure. All the room in the world.
SWE made enough space at the last mark for NZE to host a picnic. Please, get real!!
"Computer says no"
The issue was the port-starboard, not mark room.
@@Papersheepp How so? Sweden was coming from starboard so they had the right of way if NZE had continued in a straight line forward ...
@@mufflejoy take a look at it again. Artemis is on port
@@Papersheepp I still see Sweden coming from starboard, they had passed by the time NZL tacked - it looks more like they crashed their tack ... oh well, sad day for Sweden :-)
I didn't even know boats like this existed, let alone a racing series. This is very cool.
I love the racing. But PLEASE!!!!! No audience shots during the race. If for some reason you think we need to see something other than the boats together, show us more of the individual shots. You don't want to hear what my microphone hears when there is a good race on and you cut to the audience!
Duncan Peterson get a job
I disagree, production is fantastic. It's there to keep people invested, changing the pace with crowds is proven to keep people invested. Why you see it in every production
Thank you for posting these races! I was never able to see these broadcasts live. Can't wait for AC36!
This has to be one if not the best race full stop
Robin Stone agree
Never cared about this sport but wow that is some futuristic vessels! Love and regards from Sweden!
OMG SWE should have won big time!
That last penalty was a real tough one. It could be argued that NZ was rounding the mark and therefore not forced to deviate.
Thats not a rule brah
NZL was outsailed and then some.
Was fortunate to watch the finals in person (first exposure to America's Cup racing) and hoping to be able to be in NZL for the next Cup. Way too much to understand as a newbie so leave the armchair refereeing to others. Just some incredible footage and fun to watch.
to this day I still don't understand the penalty
Was he 'over the start-line before the gun? The skippers 'time' the approach to the start exactly. If 'race-official 'on-the-line' observes any part of a boat cross ahead of the gun...(boat races usually start to an 'audible-signal').
Port starboard. Kiwis had right of way. People getting confused by the mark, nothing to do with the mark and giving room. Port boat keeps clear. Lead to kiwis making an emergency gybe and losing all speed.
@@scotte7505 as soon as nzl enter the zone they have to sail their proper course, which is to gybe
Over the line mate (they crossed the line before the race began
@@MozzySails Nope you are confusing outside boat and inside boat rule which doesnt apply. Opposite tacks, Port starboard applies, winner winner chicken dinner
Good to see the America's Cup is still a joke. They had to give SWE two penalties to get NZL across the line.
Have you watched the Nz races?they don’t need any help at all lol.1 race out of many didn’t decide it all
can watch this all day long , simply awesume , the americas cup has come a long way......and whats next to come.
I didn’t watch any of this first time around but it’s caught my attention since. That final penalty against artemis shows that the penalty system needs attention. Surely. It’s was never a penalty. What a shame the sport should be so spoiled by errors like these.
Not rigged, The umpires have just 20secs to make a call, and they admitted afterwards, they got this one wrong. ETNZ went on to win the rest of the regatta convincingly
The umpires admitted later that day that they got the penalty wrong. Also... if the cup was rigged, it definitely wouldn't have been rigged in New Zealand's favor! On a side note, this wasn't the cup, or the Louis Vuitton. This was the challenger series. If Artemis had won this race, it wouldn't have made any difference in the long run.
Mike B its good to know this wasn’t an important race. Thanks for pointing that out However. It’s perfectly possible for the race to have been ‘favoured’ to ‘Emirates New Zealand’. Let’s not forget they are backed by one of the wealthiest organisations on the planet. The commentators have to say ‘emirates’ before the name of the place they come from. This says a lot to me. I’m British but will be cheering for American Magic in the next cup. simply because they are not using the sponsors name first. Unlike INEOS team uk. I’d love to see our dear sport free of corporate interference.
America's Cup I wasn’t attempting to take anything away from the kiwi’s. they are hands down best sailors on the planet. They proved that enough times. However. It’s saddens me deeply that this debacle presented to us a ‘umpiring’ is allowed to so badly deface the beautiful sport we love. I sincerely hope things have improved by the next cup. Decisions have to be correct. Instantly. I’m sure the technology exists to make this happen. So lets see it next time. Btw. Thanks for posting this. Sorry for the little outburst. I just hate to see such unfairness in sport
@@ficklemedia8733 - The reality of the America's cup is that if you want to run a successful campaign, you either need corporate sponsorship or a billionaire's checkbook. The America's cup is about innovation and sailing skill. To have the technology and the best sailors, you need the $$$. That's one of the amazing things about the New Zealand campaign - Larry Ellison (the Oracle billionaire behind Oracle Team USA) - could (and probably did) easily outspend Emirates Team New Zealand. New Zealand needed to think outside the box and beat the other teams with better ideas. Team NZ was just hours away from shutting down in 2015 due to lack of $$. As far as umpires being able to get it right 100% of the time - in the moment - I don't really think that's possible... I do, however, feel that it's important that the umpires were willing to admit that they made a mistake. As far as I'm aware, this was the only really bad call from the whole event, which when you consider how many races there were and the fact that they were racing such fast boats, I think the umpires did a really good job. Finally... if you're looking for a more pure form of sailing, the America's cup is not where you want to be looking. It's full of politics, egos, and dollars, but to be honest, that's probably a big part of what makes it so fascinating. You'll probably find more of what you're looking for if you go down to your local sailing club on the weekend - although you'll probably still have umpires making the occasional bad call...
Fantastic 'coverage' of groundbreaking technologies, applied to 'sport' !
The 'crew-persons' a board these craft are facing the ultimate risk. Bad things happen fast. I hope it is worth the risk. A 'wing-suit-jump' from Zermatt looks safer!
Home cooking for NZL. SWE robbed.
Home field advantage they call it I guess
Fantastic race! Thanks for uploading! Was this the day that NZL used their light air boards in error? Would love to see more races from the challenger series!
On the 2nd foul, I believe that the commentating is erroneous. It says "there is an overlap." Not so: NZ arrives in the zone on starboard, while Sweden is on port. So the rule about leaving adequate mark room (by Sweden) and about a 'seaman-like' rounding (NZ) doesn't apply. The point, I think, is that NZ had to throw in an emergency gybe to avoid collision with Sweden (or at least, that's how they sold it: whether there would, in fact, have been contact is unclear). The only possible objection is that NZ (starboard right-of-way), by overstanding the mark in order to force a port-starboard encounter, wouldn't have been sailing its 'proper course' (the course it would take to finish fastest in the absence of any other boats), since gybing at the mark (where they did) would have been its proper course--except that there's no requirement, as far as I'm aware, to sail proper course in this situation. (There are precious few situations when a boat *must* sail its proper course.)
one of the best races of last Americas Cup
Sorry for Sweden
Funny coz the Aussies were pissed 😂😂
Angry about the penalty points against Sweden. NZ would have lost.
As an Aussie I cheer on NZ, but really think SWE shouldn't have been penalised. Shame, because it was otherwise a terrific race!
Truly sensational sailing!!
Bring on Auckland 2021!! Will be best yet 👌🏼
Good result!
"Not to sound like an American, but that was inches" daaaaang
Imagine if they had only been millimeters over. lol
I havnt a bloody clue what's going on but my god this race is interesting lol
Dammnnn Artemis must have been an inch over
Umpires later acknowledged that they had got the decision wrong........but didn't reverse it....nonsense.
Why did they say SWE crossed the line before time?
Look at 1:05 it's 0:00/start and SWE doesn't seem to have touched the line....
Nope, he was on the line before the clock clicked down to 0:00 but just barely. Watch the replay at 4:09
A growing trend in sports and racing - pencil pushers decide - not the athletes or competitors, so sad to see...
Nice race, dudes!
I just read that the Swedes fucked up and lost, now I've watched the race and can honestly say they crushed it. Well done - Besides, Artemis was the huntress god, so maybe without that start it would turn out different
Why are the crew on the straightaways on the winches it doesn't look like pulling on any sheets? or need to be pulling on the sheets?
Kiora. Lots of sweet tears below. Make great ice cubes for my nzl whiskey. Rules
What's a koira thing?
Why do they crank all of the time? What are they cranking for? What does the cranking do?
it pumps the hydrolic pressure which is used to move all the parts on the boats. On more conventional boats the winching pulls ropes which move sails etc.
Penalty to start, Penalty to end.. both penalties were complete and utter BS.. I hate the newer boats, get the boats back into the water where they belong.. single hull like the old days..
Yes way
Damn outerridge had that start in the bag, just a fraction of a second early
Nah...burling was playing with him...tnz didn't want to show their hand early and also spoke of it later...they were only worried about winning the cup
Great race, but this kiwi believes Sweden deserved the win in this instance, umpires got it wrong.
I prefer the old days when there was actual match racing.
Did you actually watch this race??
So, NOBODY really won.
Sweden was 100% robbed... Super bad judging :(
wasn't just by eye it was all the electronics that said they were early
@MyGun4hire Yeah, the Kiwis were the markers in this one, they were blown off the water by the Swedes.
NZ on the back foot from the gun. Outmaneuvered, outsailed. Luckily they had friendly umpires.
@MyGun4hire Correct! Run by a Swede living in Switzerland trading in Russian oil and gas...
barebare in the immortal words of John McEnroe “you cannot be serious “
Amazing race Artemis should have won this one
I thought the purpose of a race is to out do your opponent. you do that and get penalize...hmmm?
Purpose of the race is to out do your opponent while adhering to the rules agreed on by both teams.
Are these recent races?
Dude. It's Not Sweden, it's Aussie. NZ vs AUS.
Paid for by Sweden though ;)
as a kiwi myself, i think that was a bullshit penalty, victory should be Sweden's
Thank you for your honesty !!
I thought they were going to a single hull with foil for this American's cup.
This was from AC35 2017. AC36 is 2021.
I want to see monohulls again, this isn't racing
2 teams trying to beat each other over the finish line... Sounds like racing to me.
Robbed. Poor judging.
Idea is that Sweden cannot block New Zealand within into two boat length circle around mark once New Zealand has entered
that circle first -- but although Sweden also entered circle it did not effect New Zealand's course, so no foul.
Thank for the explanation, so the Swedes should have stayed outside the circle to be clear?
I don't think NZ has to enter first. they just have to have an overlap when SWE enters. But it doesn't matter. The foul was call on the p/s cross. NZL was forced to jibe to port because SWE didn't yeild. ...or at least that is what I understand the call was.
this is not sailing ,this is bullshit class bring back the 12m monohulls
no foul-bs
Wow
когда еще гонки?
This race still makes me angry...
I thought I had found a cool sport to watch. Certainly not one that gets decided that clearly by a referee throwing a flag. Shame.
Agree !!!
Back when there were real boats in the AC.
A robbery has been committed 😲
not a great jibe by the sweets?
Ich verstehe es nicht, die Strafe war nicht Angesagt.
What a poor call by the judge! I was cheering for the Kiwi's but this ranks right up there on BS meter along side that moronic call in AC34 where the judge called time's up with the Kiwi's a couple of minutes from the finish line to win the AC! Yes, rules are rules but why does it seem like every big money sport has rules like this to allow for calls like this one! This was an arbitrary call made so the Kiwi's would win the race! Unquestionable and Unbelievable!
kiwi power yea Boi in the bag
Kiwi judges
Sad they go back to monohull and soft sails. First time in history America's cup goes backwards
Sad to see such poor judging at such a high level of sport. Bad call there against Sweden.
What a rubbish ruling from the umpires!!! This is how the "big" countries are being favored in championships! This was cr*p!!!
The penalty was BS just to help NZL.
Ridiculous to call this "sailing". Water-machines & operators might be more accurate.
oh its rigged, how unusual nowadays Lol
Couldn't have been fixed as all the others wanted new Zealand out but couldn't beat them, the first penalty was correct but I think the second one was not correct .
But the sweds certainly over the course of the competition gave us kiwis a good fight out there on the water, was brilliant to watch.
Rules are rules:works both ways
Seems NZ has the judges, "dialed in", They seem to find a penalty anytime they are behind.
Piracy against Artemis
That decision had to have been bought and paid for. Totally corrupt official. Thanks Richard
кто победил то все таки??? непонятно(
NZL
Historically NZ got the calls in rugby too but seems to be changing now hopefully.
Typical... penalty... smh...
This is not cup of America 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
I guess that judge had got some new mony to spent. This is cheeting nothing else.
Politics sucks...
Swedes too eager ,cost them the race ,tough but gps doesn’t lie
You don’t now what you’re talking about.......don’t you understand how much money they would lose if SWE won........2 penalty’s that even the speakers argued ......1 can happen but 2 and the penalty came up first when SWE was half way on the finish leg......That’s the facts a gentleman sport....OR.....