An environmentalism of hope
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2023
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I feel this
Almost brought a tear to my eye
Hi-larious. 😂 Keep up the good work!
The thing is... Isn't it limiting to promote (seemingly without nuance) a small number of specific technologies in a single (take it or leave it) 'package'? So, I'm a big fan of precision fermentation. And, whilst I agree that it doesn't seem sensible to decommission nuclear power early, building new nuclear seems to me to be costly, time-consuming, and, ultimately, unnecessary. As for GMOs, I don't know enough about them to have a strong view, but I am wary (not least because of some of the companies that promote them). The bottom line is that I'm 100% behind your food and rewilding agenda but ambivalent about the rest of the controversial technologies you support. And I also wonder why you don't even mention a whole class of technologies for greenhouse gas removal, which will be vital to restore our climate to a sustainable state...
Also, I'm not at all sure that a population of more than 10bn is sustainable. Whilst with precision fermentation, we might be able to feed everyone, what about accessing other resources? England already feels pretty overcrowded, especially at tourist hotspots, which also happens (not coincidentally) to be where nature used to thrive. Incidentally, I have no truck with those who use 'overpopulation' as an excuse for environmental inaction, as if there is any reasonable immediate solution, and because many apparently lack awareness of the disparity of consumption between global north and south. However, it also seems to me that we should aim in the medium term for a much lower global population than we have now through encouraging smaller families, especially in countries that have high per-capita consumption levels.
When you look at how fast and cheaply nuclear can scale, if the conditions are right, they are an excelent option. When you look at how wind and solar can't support large industrialized countries, you notice why even if expensive nuclear is necessary. Also, its not a take it or leave it, they support all kinds of tech that is proven to help the enviroment focus on the ones that are quite literally descriminated against for more ideological then scientific reasons.
As for CO2 removal, its because its a scam. The energy it consumes, it only is worth if powered at least 50% clean, but that energy would be better used in powering the grid or atracting energy intensive industries to already clean grids.
I think every environmentalist organization will have a "package" of principles and causes: it's a set of choices they have made that people can rally around.
I'm not affiliated with RePlanet, but I read a lot of their stuff and support them through donations. They are focused on what will give the most bang-for-the-buck from a scientific consensus perspective, rather than what may draw the most emotional attention. Most other environmentalist will focus on what draws the most emotional response (i.e. save puppies, whales that aren't endangered, etc).
RePlanet also seems focused on what choices individuals can make today: choosing plant-based foods and voting to keep nuclear plants open, and allowing GMOs. These technologies are already deployed around the world. Whereas GHG removal is a like fusion: a bit beyond the horizon in terms of economics and deployability.
If your knowledge of the world leads you to believe that GMOs or nuclear are not worth pursuing, then RePlanet is not for you. If you do believe that they might be on to something but you're not convinced, they've have articles about these topics with links to their sources that you can dive into to check the science for yourself.
@@mikedaw4193 Regarding overpopulation, I think the reasoning that RePlanet follows is that if we can raise the standard of living and education through creating surplus of food and energy, then the rate-of-birth will go down to a sustainable level.
@@tfnico Thanks for your responses. And yes, let's hope so...