Guitar Hero 3 Beta - "Through The Fire and Flames" Chart Comparison (Expert Guitar)

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • Through The Fire and Flames - Dragonforce
    You know I had to do a chart comparison for this, are you kidding? I live for this shit. I'm committing right here, right now, I will be doing chart comparisons for every song in the game, all 70+. It will take me some time, so don't expect this to start tomorrow, but soon. Fortnite chart previews will likely continue as planned, and the rest of the week will be filled with GH3 comparisons. I'll start it off with a few heavy hitters though, such as this.
    This beta chart is quite something. DEFINITELY harder than the full release chart. Climactic buildup is just straight up evil. Far worse than the Red Snake. Crazy to think that Darkly got this chart FC'd within 12 hours of playing it, that dude is built different.
    Anyways, sit back and enjoy watching a piece of preserved Guitar Hero history.
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Komentáře • 82

  • @acai28
    @acai28 Před 6 měsíci +194

    Beta solo is so much tougher than final. I still can’t believe we got this chart

  • @cosmicjenny4508
    @cosmicjenny4508 Před 6 měsíci +83

    I'm losing my mind specifically at the orange wall at 4:59, Chris Vance was out for BLOOD when he charted this version.
    We are eating goooood this week.

  • @Norami4U
    @Norami4U Před 6 měsíci +48

    That one strum note here. 0:41

    • @Norami4U
      @Norami4U Před 6 měsíci +3

      Also would you say beta is harder than Smash Hits?

    • @DACARBOSS.
      @DACARBOSS. Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@Norami4Uyes

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah I think so@@Norami4U

    • @Ultimalocked
      @Ultimalocked Před 6 měsíci +1

      I wonder if that note is an accident or something. Looks like something in Moonscraper where if you place the note a little too far it won’t automatically assign itself as a HOPO like the rest. Do we know if the official charting software was similar in this regard?

  • @cicabeot1
    @cicabeot1 Před 6 měsíci +37

    4:59 has gotta be the opposite of what happened with Ballroom Blitz in 80s. Instead of some jackass deciding to overchart it for the final release, they actually showed some mercy and charted this more sensibly. I bet Chris would’ve taken at least…two more days to FC this back in the day if the beta chart was the final version.

  • @BenAck912
    @BenAck912 Před 6 měsíci +87

    "Through The Fire And Flames but it was made in a time before the light."

    • @Mickelraven
      @Mickelraven Před 6 měsíci +7

      I think it was made on a cold winter morning.

  • @truesmashfan127
    @truesmashfan127 Před 6 měsíci +12

    That beta chart was interesting. Several parts in that chart were all over the place and some were just evil. I was also not expecting that part in the Climactic Build-Up section or the part in the Rampaging Dragons section, either. Wow.

  • @predeterminedmeat5024
    @predeterminedmeat5024 Před 6 měsíci +15

    4:59 That would've taken a while to get down. TTFAF FC might've taken a lot longer. 7:02 as well

  • @connorleake2472
    @connorleake2472 Před 6 měsíci +9

    The ending for the beta was nasty. I'd lose my mind.

  • @Birbusreal
    @Birbusreal Před 6 měsíci +13

    This is GH history right here. So happy to see a beta build. Here's hoping for more!

  • @josh_uz1520
    @josh_uz1520 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Its clear the person that hoarded this wanted to steer attention away from Fortnite Festival

    • @deathmeowtal1503
      @deathmeowtal1503 Před 6 měsíci +1

      They knew about fortnite festival 10 years ago?

  • @blakespinelli6969
    @blakespinelli6969 Před 6 měsíci +6

    what a huge fucking month for these series

  • @michel.fssouza
    @michel.fssouza Před 6 měsíci +2

    Good to see people making vídeos of the great and old guitar hero

  • @Leyuhm
    @Leyuhm Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thank you for the comparison upload to save me time lmao

  • @swinelias
    @swinelias Před 6 měsíci +1

    And to think the beta chart was going to be much more difficult. That's wild. In fact, it looks like this month was wild for both RB and GH in terms of beta versions of their games. Nice.

    • @Grandtarkus
      @Grandtarkus Před 6 měsíci

      What happened with RB? Was there a beta leak?

    • @swinelias
      @swinelias Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Grandtarkus more or less, yeah. Specifically an early build of the Wii version of RB3, which among all had some charts for songs that never made it to the main RB3 song list. Although not all of them were 100% finished, but still.

  • @maddogupc
    @maddogupc Před 6 měsíci +12

    I think it's possible to get 1000k score with optimized star power

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee Před 6 měsíci

      No duh its been done on the official chart

    • @zacharycollins4958
      @zacharycollins4958 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@BlissBee It's not possible in GH3 though as I believe it requires overlapping star powers which wasn't a feature back then. Beta chart might have enough extra notes to make it possible.

    • @BlissBee
      @BlissBee Před 6 měsíci

      @@zacharycollins4958 ohhhhh

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@BlissBee not on gh3 it has not.

    • @jshooa4840
      @jshooa4840 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@BlissBeeon clone hero, yes. On original guitar hero 3, no.

  • @TheBassSinger
    @TheBassSinger Před 6 měsíci +4

    As jankier as the old chart is, I kind of wanted them to keep it just because judging from the default score, 1 Mil for this song might be possible.

  • @sirkjohno0129
    @sirkjohno0129 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Waiting for the day certainly came sooner than I expected 😂

  • @ducksnsg2793
    @ducksnsg2793 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Should’ve used your own FC! I would never live a TTFAF FC down ever. So damn impressive❤

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thank you! I used a high hyperspeed setting in my video, and I typically don't like using hyperspeed in videos like this so it's easier to glance between both charts without the notes flying at you real quick.

  • @TnZay
    @TnZay Před 6 měsíci +16

    That beta chart is definitely a chart lol

  • @marchellokocakgaming5616
    @marchellokocakgaming5616 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks, Darkly

  • @Erberberberi69
    @Erberberberi69 Před 6 měsíci

    Its so awsome we got acces to this chart!

  • @icekyng219
    @icekyng219 Před 3 měsíci +1

    if we had the beta version with the right squeeze for points, u could get a mil on gh3

  • @Lightally16
    @Lightally16 Před 5 měsíci

    At first, I noticed chords in places where the commercial release didn't have them, leading to an early score differential. Then the interspersed strum notes among the HOPO sections. As many others have said: evil

  • @DACARBOSS.
    @DACARBOSS. Před 6 měsíci +1

    holy shit soulless through the fire and flames 4

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 Před 6 měsíci +5

    2:45 just two different ideas entirely

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It probably went in the ‘bass’ chart

  • @coldzero8584
    @coldzero8584 Před 6 měsíci +1

    my jaw absolutely hit the floor when I saw 5:00 for the first time

  • @raydog_97
    @raydog_97 Před 5 měsíci

    The Rock Meter and Score Meter were both raised up just little bit in the final, if you look at the strikeline on beta the rock meter and score meter are a little lower
    Edit: The Beta strikeline is fucking sick man

  • @fluxie31
    @fluxie31 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It'd be cool to see ExileLord's squeeze bot to squeeze this, see if 1mil is possible

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton Před 6 měsíci

      I bet it would’ve been. Adding the base score difference of 5048 into the optimal score of 991934 brings it to 996982. You’d only need to score more 3018 points under a revamped SP path. That’s getting just ~15 more single notes under 8x multiplier. It’s not this simple of course, considering the non-overlapping SP of GH3, but seeing as there release chart is more or less just a nerfed version, I believe 1mil would’ve been, and I heavily put this in parentheses, ”easily” possible.

  • @brandonjohnson260
    @brandonjohnson260 Před 6 měsíci

    You know that the beta chart has 20 more notes than the final, so that's why some of the sections in the beta chart are very hard to do.

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier Před 5 měsíci

    the only difference between Beta and the final product version of Guitar Hero 3 is that the Final Product just left out 33 notes so thats why the final product chart was different to the beta version.

  • @venticated6012
    @venticated6012 Před 6 měsíci +1

    i bet alot of records would not have happened if the beta version became the final version cause alot of the sections are way harder lol.

  • @BullnosePride
    @BullnosePride Před 6 měsíci +1

    1:48 That part should of made the cut. It's not much harder and it sounds correct.

  • @TR1PLE_6
    @TR1PLE_6 Před 6 měsíci +4

    5K points difference between them. Could 1M be possible in the beta chart? 👀

    • @she.luv.hexiii
      @she.luv.hexiii Před 6 měsíci

      It’s already possible lol

    • @Jarran2R
      @Jarran2R Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@she.luv.hexiiiit’s possible in clone hero with star power overlap, but not in gh3 which doesn’t have star power overlap

    • @sh4rpys
      @sh4rpys Před 6 měsíci

      @@she.luv.hexiii Not in guitar hero 3

  • @MetalMoshin
    @MetalMoshin Před 6 měsíci +1

    0:32 can anyone explain to me how the score is slightly different even though the same number of notes were hit including sustains?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      The prototype calculates points gained from sustains differently than the final version.

    • @MetalMoshin
      @MetalMoshin Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@aWiseMoose ah, thanks for the clarification.

  • @froloffanton
    @froloffanton Před 6 měsíci +2

    Funny how Solo Fill II remains un-nerfed in the co-op rhythm chart.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Wow I didn't even realize that! It's slightly different, but much closer to the prototype chart than the final lead chart.

    • @froloffanton
      @froloffanton Před 6 měsíci

      @@aWiseMoose as most of us probably already know, Mother in GHII also had an un-nerfed outro solo in Co-Op. I wonder if it’s just a simple oversight, a leftover from Beta they didn’t remember to balance out the way the lead chart was.

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@froloffanton I think you might be on to something with that theory

  • @snes9xv129
    @snes9xv129 Před 6 měsíci

    1M POSSIBLE, I want to see it

  • @DBDHeLlSKiLLeR
    @DBDHeLlSKiLLeR Před 6 měsíci

    Would love the beta chart in Clone Hero

  • @guitarherojay
    @guitarherojay Před 6 měsíci +6

    This chart is different

  • @MKNerdMusic
    @MKNerdMusic Před 6 měsíci +3

    Still a better chart than “Slither” by Velvet Revolver. 💀

  • @trooperV2003
    @trooperV2003 Před 6 měsíci

    Chris really looked at this and said: Yeah this fucking sucks, release it

  • @paulsd9255
    @paulsd9255 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Are y gonna do the rhythm chart too?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Wasn't planning on it, but I could.

  • @claudetheclaudeqc6600
    @claudetheclaudeqc6600 Před 6 měsíci

    Now I wonder if you squezze everything, how much a bot could do whit the sp power?

  • @carloscarrillo9183
    @carloscarrillo9183 Před 6 měsíci

    Easy 😎👌🏻

  • @verbatimc3
    @verbatimc3 Před 6 měsíci

    b e t a

  • @mennymanuel28
    @mennymanuel28 Před 6 měsíci

    Final ver feels better, but beta is harder

  • @sBViC
    @sBViC Před 6 měsíci

    Hi

  • @LordSnowman
    @LordSnowman Před 6 měsíci

    Did you really play the beta by hand?

    • @aWiseMoose
      @aWiseMoose  Před 6 měsíci +1

      No, this is bot gameplay for both.

    • @LordSnowman
      @LordSnowman Před 6 měsíci

      @@aWiseMoose Oh, I felt like it was a struggle to FC them by hand.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 Před 6 měsíci

      @@LordSnowman its already been fc'd

  • @user-pb4vw5fn6s
    @user-pb4vw5fn6s Před 2 dny

    Beta sucks I like the original version of gh3

  • @igorgarcez9242
    @igorgarcez9242 Před 6 měsíci

    First