Thompson 1928 | Old Submachine Gun Restoration
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This video was artificially aged. That type of rust is short terms. Plus wood doesnt rust unlesss it was soaked in rusty water. Shame that you ruined a piece of history for views
i dont get it
I still enjoy watching these restorations, artificially aged or not.
True
Tbh Don't care.
Yes sir, it’s fake as hell
Nice vise grip teeth marks on flash suppressor! I'm with the "you ruined it" crowd.
It's not an authentic gun, just a replica. The whole thing is staged and faked.
I especially liked the old rags conveniently located in the barrel, gawd forbid any rust makes it to the rifling in the barrel.
Yeah I saw that and was scratching my head.
That’s amazing!!! How long does it take for wood to rust like that?😂😂😂😂😂 I’ll admit I was born in the night but it wasn’t last night.
My son-in-law is a gunsmith this can be two pitted and not even worth the effort.
I love how the rust even managed to get underneath the protective cloth wraps.
Its funny that cos for how rusty and corroded that was the screws all seemed to come out really easily! where can I get some of that rust, I take it it was out of a bottle. Do these people really think we are that stupid
Wood corrodes and gets dirty. I’m sure it’s fake but it would be this way regardless and it’s not rust. The condition would likely be way worse if it was a real one he found and the wood would be badly damaged if it wasn’t rotted away already.
@@gabecollins5585Old wood turns grey. Wood buried in dirt rots away within years unless it's incredibly dry where it's buried. Europe doesn't have anyplace like that that I am aware of, but maybe. Wood aging next to iron or steel turns black, it doesn't turn rusty. The only way that occurs is if you place the object in a salt bath and let the surface fast rust, turning the water orange and that water stains the wood.. Old rust is darker, as it can undergo several oxidation states. Fresh rust is bright orange.
About as fake as they come
Probably a replica.
@jeffburnham6611. I don't think it's a replica but it may be. Everything inside this weapon looked like it was working. But what he did is fake. The very first thing that caught my attention was wood does not rust. The cloth that was tied around the handle and was down in the breech. It would have been completely rotten. There would have been hoes and rust pits all over this weapon. No I don't think that thompson is a replica. But I can never trust watching.What this guy does ever again.
How did you get the wood to rust?? I've never seen that in nature. You must be some kind of sorcerer.
It's called water
@@digbigerwater makes wood rust lol….dumb bozo.
It's artificially aged (which I'm guessing you know). Kind of fucked up he ruined the gun for views- hopefully it was already bad and he just made it semi worse.
@@digbigerno it's not
@@digbiger Duh, would doesn't rust. Ferrous metals rust. FYI Ironwood trees are not actually made of iron.
I like the rusted wooden stock--it matches the coating on the rest of the firearm. Someone needs to producing a series on faking firearm restorations.
There's a channel who routinely does weapon restorations and he has a video out that shows you what you should be looking for to identify a fake restoration. Rusty wood is one of the warnings because if it was in the conditions necessary to rust up the metal that much, it would rot the wood, not rust it.
Backyard Ballistics has some videos on how to spot them
✅ ~ this is one of the stereotypical “fraudulent” pre-rusted gun videos = the fraudster wants you to watch the adverts and not him committing fraud
I'm a gunsmith and you're not, a gunsmith wouldn't do that to any gun.
Well color me curious, but if you DID happen to by some miracle find an old rusted Thompson, how would you repair it??? I mean would you give it the classic look? Or bring it into the 21 century and give it a more modern and tactical style to it??
Please show me that rust bath where your weapons are aged! It would be very interesting to see what awaits us in the next episodes! We ask you very much! Please! 😍👍
Yep. "Rust" all over the wooden parts...
Dried mud dirt type stuff
@@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519Mud is almost always brown. Tell me why those CZcamsrs seem to always get their guns from the places where earth has a red tone to it.
Triggered are we? Butt hurt too?
@@rumeunner3245You seem very concerned about the state of his butt ? 😂
Amazing how lucrative this patina simulation has become. This chap is raking it in.
Partly because we are viewing and commenting. Even negative views and comments count toward monetization.
Actually Thompson had 5 variants, this one looks correct in every way.
All the features indicate that it is a late production M1928A1 circa 1942, possibly manufactured by savage.
Although these videos are fake as fuck, it's still satisfying. Also, in case there are people who think this gun is real and they just ruined an authentic piece of history, it's a fake gun as well. You can buy restoration kits online that are simply for the satisfaction of restoring them. You can also see these exact restoration kits in other restoration videos. So don't worry, no actual WWII firearms were hurt in the making of this video.
Where can you but kits like that , that would be great for a wall hanger
The gun at the end is a Russian PPS 43.. did the restoration change it from a Thompson to this? Maybe I missed something... hmmmm
The Thompson is a genuine late production M1928A1, it was not fake.
@@PieAndChipsthe gun was not fake, it's condition was entirely fake.
Why would this be satisfying when you know they took something that was likely in decent condition ( this was a real firearm, the replicas are not finely milled steel ) then destroyed it with intentional corrosion, just so they can very very poorly " restore " it to a condition that still looks like crap ?
Just go watch Jimmy Diresta build something, or watch Mark Novak expertly breath life into an old firearm while making you want to learn everything you can from him.
It would be impossible to restore this gun because it would have too many pits in the in the metal. My son-in-law is a gunsmith and I see guns that come in that aren't anywhere near this shape and they're just impossible to redo.
Damn my first time I've seen rusted wood. and them screw threads looked like new
and the spring inside , just wtf :))))
Yea rusty screw heads, well oiled screw threads.
Lol, all the threads of all the screws are in perfect shape, when you fake stuff, try harder. Love how shiny the recoil spring still was 🤦♂️
Wow that spring is cleaner than my weapon
Was about the write the same thing. He missed to rust that part. 0:42 😂
That wood and the tape on the grip are in amazing shape considering it’s almost 100 years old! Nice try, you earned a thumps down
I had an old friend who was WWII vet, fought in the Pacific . He was from Missouri and had a little accent. He didn't talk about the war much but once he said " I had a Tommy gun, I got it off a guy. HE DIDN'T NEED IT ANYMORE! ".
It is not a M1928, but is a M1928A1
No its a ppsh43
M1A1!
@@Negevchan1060ппс
If it was real, the wood, had it been similar conditions to the rusted metal, would have molted away from water damage and mold
If you accidentally drop your Thompson into a brine filled tank and then forget about it for two weeks, you to can easily rectify your mistake by following along with this video
Why wait two weeks, just soak it in a solution of hydrogen peroxide, vinegar and salt. YEARS of rust in a few hours.
Channel locks on the muzzle brake?! 😮
DO YOU HAVE TO WRAP ALL YOUR "TREASURES " IN FORD WIRE BEFORE YOU BURY THEM IN THE MUD FOR MONTHS AND THEN "FIND" THEM?
Aww shutup &stop complaining
It wouldn't surprise me to find out this gun was buried in the mud for six months, to be made crappy looking before the rebuild. So much of the interior is still cleanly blued. Still fun to watch.
Yep. Obvious fake. Btw, 8:08 is just a nono.
Exactly thats all Just surface rust or they boiled it in tomato sauce and im not kidding it will make metal look Orange and rusty
Six months ?
Six hours more like.
It's a little bit of hydrochloric acid and water. Job done
Si tiene un guardamanos ya hecho¿ porqué hace otro?. En varias tomas aparecen los dos.😮Que maravilla de metal oxidado,sin una sola marca,ni picado.Milagroso.😊
I bet Mark Novak on Anvil gets a nice chuckle watching this video. That amount of age rust would totally destroy the barrel making it worthless. Besides, rust is oxidation of the iron in the steel. Once the rust occurs the metal pits and can't be renewed. The mating surfaces of the action would have fused and the surface on all parts deeply pitted. Nice looking replica.
I was digging in my yard,and I found............a rock.
hehe... just sayin
20/20 un travail de Maitre!!!!
O yeah you can't tell he soaked it in rusty water for sure those nails were clean when he pulled them out and the mounts were shiny as well
Is all the wrapping with gauze and tape and cord actual prep for long-term storage, or just for dramatic effect. Please explain.
It was a make shift fore grip since the original wood one was gone.
Uh more difficult to retrieve fingerprints?
Yes.
Actually they used burlap to wrap there weapons for comfort.
Nothing was shown about the inside of the barrel.
How’d he go from a Thompson to a PPS-43💀
Thank you someone who recognises the gun
magic
This channel is therapy.
It's fake bs
10:09 as a wise old mechanic once said to me “remember son it can’t defy you if it’s a liquid.” This was right before he put down his welding hood and proceeded to torch the component that was offending him it did not last. Words to live by.
When he grabbed onto the Cupps Compensator with ViceGrips I started choaking… pounding out the pins with non-brass drivers got a squeak from gritted teeth… using a STEEL brush on all the machined parts made my common sense warning buzzer go off… I left this restoration feeling like I had internal injuries.
Forgive my ignorance, but why should you use brass drivers to pound out the pins?
Steel drivers marr the pins… brass is soft and does not damage the surface.
Also, the pin punch was too small. He banged the parts on top of the vise to separate them. When he was tapping out the part with the trigger guard, he was tapping on the guard instead of low down next to where the parts were attached. I cringed multiple times during this. He seemed to be in a rush. Also he scraped the stock, and used sandpaper against the grain. I would have used ultra fine steel wool, and followed the grain. There seemed to be so many dodgy processes, although I'm no gunsmith.
Your channel just did this firearm a month ago. What is the deal guys. Cmon I think this might be the fourth or fifth time now.
Yah they fake all there shit
@@FrFr224 I know that. It’s Hurting the platform. The same platform for which I have been doing videos for 2 more years than this channel. “The kinzler bros”
You are right... In every end of an restoration we see every damn time the restoration of an PSH 44.... this channel is almost reckless
@@MIKE_WOLF_GR it is reckless. My videos are short one firearm. It a real and legit firearm I show all stamps and serial numbers to prove it’s real. Then I test fire them in a vise to see if it’s safe then fire them by hand. Because that’s the point of restoring the gun in my opinion. My channel is “the kinzler bros”
@@brandonkinzler3188 As an Weaponry- Artillery member I confirm ALL of he's guns haven't Serial number and the process of resorting is reckless . I have restore 100's of colt 0.45 1911 , M14 , M1 garand, and Thompsons with drum magazines, MP5, B.A.R and MG-3 the upgraded version of MG-42 ..Just imagine....
always wanted to mount this gun in a man-cave. Glass case and everything. Such a work of art and machinery
Nice Thompson I had a armory full of Thompsons while in the navy it has a blow back action also
Beautiful work on the Thompson
8:08 Beautiful work. Yeah... Btw, the guy obviously fakes. Biggest hint is the fake rust on the wooden parts and that the screws are only "rusty" on the surface.
Thats not a thompson thats ppsh43
fake aged! all that rust but no pitting? so much rust even the rood rusted! you have a lot of learning to do.
Forget the rust, never seen a 28 without the foregrip and cooling fins
It's a late production M1928A1.
The vertical foregrip was omitted from the A1 as it was intended for military use and after about July 1942 the barrels were produced without the cooling ribs.
Its fake that is why
Bonjour. Perte de temps effroyable pour du faux à tout niveaux. Il est préférable de sauvegardé ce qui est une évidence historique. Après tout ,chacun son délire !
you should pray to the spirits of John Moses Browning and John Taliaferro Thompson for forgiveness for artificially rusting this gun
Just curious. how can you tell that he artificially rusted it?
@@MaxMinXX I’m part of a Facebook student group for a gunsmith school. I don’t have a gunsmith job yet due to certain circumstances but anyway, I shared one of this guys videos and several of them who do work in the industry pointed out that the orange rust was too consistent along the entire gun and could only happen if he did it artificially
I really would like to see, how you turned the gun in the condition, we´ve seen in the begining.
He's a professional to.
Make up the parts of any gun or rifle cleanum. You know everything, thank you.
Love the Thompson, piece of history
They called it the Chicago Piano
Vice grips.... really professional
I had to stop watching at that point
I don't under stand , Why ruin perfectly good firearms just to make a video.
Yep. The good old "rusty" wood hint... But the answer is 💰
If the gun was the real thing it would be worth $70k or more and this guy would not be doing a third rate restoration on it. Actual new parts can be found
@@gothia1715❤
Is it a civilian Tommy then? Like only single shot. I feel like his restoration was not the worst but I don’t understand is it not a real ww2 Tommy?
@@jacklagsthe civilian ones of that day were not single shot. If it’s real, and was liscensed properly back then, it would be a transferable machine gun and work a shit load. If it wasn’t put on the registry than it’s basically a paperweight, legally speaking, unless you have a special license that always you to manufacture machine guns. Someone might correct me but that’s pretty close to how the law works.
Those screws look pretty clean for being in a 1928 wooden stock.
How did that useful tool perform at the range?! Great work restoring that Thompson!! 👍
It would be nice to have him say a word now & , then over chemicals & details for his great work done !!!!
Probably would not give a way his "secret sauce" restoration.
Can you imagine this guy's backyard? About a dozen reproduction Firearms buried for 3 months
The restoration was so complete the finished product wasn’t even the Thompson … just damn
Those wood peices were in pretty good shape . But the metal does all the work when it’s fired .
Hey could you show the rust bath where you destroy firearms and fake restore them
Ah yes rusty wood makes sense yall should just delete your channel
Crazy how he uploaded the same video twice a month later and still gets over 100k views
Yup fake as hell- no metal pitting, but shit tons of rust.
Nobody tells you to watch their videos, let just say they're faking it, then unsubscribe the channel.
Fake
It’d be so freaking cool to actually find one of these, out in the field somewhere and then get it brought back to life like this!!
Definitely a savage
Второй пистолет -пулемет это не томпсон, а ППС-43. Странно, что в названии видео о нем не упоминается.
What a beautiful restoration
even the wood is rusted. amazing!
While hunting I found the rifle and remains of a man that had been missing for over 25. I was a young man, dear hunting where I lived at in Maryland. It was back in the 70s. There was not much of him left. But his rifle was still there. I did not touch it but I could tell from looking at it. It was completely rust pitted. The wood was rotten and dried out. It looks like it would turn to dust if you touched it. That rifle looked in better shape. Then that Thompson did when we first saw it. Does this guy think we did not know that the video was fake.
Like the work you did on the for grip wish i had it.
Que belleza de trabajo.
PPS - wow!
Wow... using steel hammers, a steel punch and Vice grips. ...LoL I seen the flash-hider was changed-out, the other one had Vice grip marks around it from the fool un-screwing it. For me? ...it's Brass, all the way around for the take-down.
Well this guy clearly doesnt know much about firearms and is a scam artist.
Where do they find all theese super rusty weapons that after 1 bath looks brand spanking new?
I love how he turned it over and some rust fell off!!😂😂😂😂
Incredible restoration 😅
Me gusta el silencio y la paciencia.. saludos d México muy buen trabajo... felicidades q la pases bien...
With a 100 round drum magazine it's definitely one of the funnest firearms I've shot
The wood can't rust bro...✌️ Next time 🧠👌 keep it up 💪
Eres un máquina restaurando armas, qué buen trabajó ya que puedes probar todas las armas qué restauras.
Not even going to lie these videos are oddly satisfying 🤣😭
Not of you k own anything about firearms. It's all fake
It does show how intricate the action of the Thomson is compared to the other open bolt SMG
Glass bead blasting would work better than a wire wheel.
You are not mechanics, you are "artists" ;)
Yep, nice to covering that inner barrel so didn't get rust and damaging that rifling
I had no idea how complex the Thompson was. No wonder the US Army went to the M3 Submachine gun.
Ça c'est du boulot parfait tinkyou
How did you know the foregrip was gone before you took the rag off of it?🤔🤔🤔 sumptuous not right!
I'm impressed.
Nice fixing 👌🏾 😎
Great job though, having such material and not fixing the vice and deplorable. Two clamps would have been enough
You are dangerous in a good way absolutely No Joke Man100% amazing
Sooo soothing. Great work! I like the weapon restoration videos the best.
I very enjoyed watching this video.
Замечательное видео!!!!!Отличный специалист,отличное оборудование,очень интересно,молодец!!!!!Спасибо за публикацию.😮😊😂❤🎉
Incredible even the wood rusted! Think they're lying to us?
I restore things, I'm working on a 40+ year old motocross bike atm. Infact I've built it from scratch. Some of the components took weeks to restore. I usually remove rust and grime with a 10% hydrochloric acid, alkaline dip and another acid dip or pickle prior to plating.This video seems to me like someone's dipped a weapon that was in need of a basic restoration, into a mix of red earth and water. Maybe removing it to dry only to then do it again. The reason I say this is because the wooden stock is covered in the same dirt. If you want to see heavy rust form in a matter of days, strip the paint or plating of your steel in acid, and then rinse in water. You'll be surprised how something so nice can look absolutely rotten in the space of a day or two. 😉
Incredible work 👏
Fake and 8:08
@@gothia1715very true
Very good
Would have like to see a range-fire test at the end....
it cant fire. This was fake
From thompson smg to pps43 truly remarkable the era of anything goes for views nothing to learn from this content.
Dope AF results, Rusty Restore!
interesting that something that is so rusted has little or no pitting.
I am a 60 year old African American woman in a small town in Missouri.I tell you that I find this work so interesting.the shine on that wood is amazing
No one cares what race or gender you are. Stop being a victim
Какое отношение имеет твой цвет кжи к дереву
Why should anyone care that you are "African" American?
Hey here is a Great Hack to Remove Rust use Molasses and water, yes I know it sounds crazy but have have been Restoring a 1935 Ford Pickup and the 4 Piece Hood was Frozen Solid, I tried WD40, DB blaster, Heat, Cold, and Nothing Worked. I saw this online where a guy in New Zealand was Soaking his Car parts in Molasses and Water and getting Amazing Results, so I got a Kiddy Pool and a 2.5 gallon Jug of Herd Life Black Strap Molasses for cows, poured it into the pool fill it with garden hose. I had to turn the hood upside down on its back with the hood sides sticking out and went to Work.Two days noting but a Frozen hood in a kiddy pool of Black Sweet smelling water.but by day Three of Soaking Bubbles started forming Everywhere in the pool and by day Four it was looking like making Moon Shine. Day 5 both Hood Sides had fallen over by them selves, a light scrubbing with a Green kitchen Scrubby and that hood was rust Free and slipped apart with Ease. So take that Beautiful Thompson Submachine Gun and Soak it for about 4 or 5 Days and it will be Rust Free.
Wow a lot of mud.