Sonic Ambassadors Then & Now

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  • @MrSaywutnow
    @MrSaywutnow Před 9 dny +1384

    Korone is probably the one Sonic fan on the planet who is the closest thing to a well adjusted human being.

  • @Dorian_Scott
    @Dorian_Scott Před 9 dny +857

    No offense to Arin, but why on did they think it was a great idea to hire someone who criticizes your game at every conceivable opportunity for the Ambassador role? It just makes no sense to me. Korone, despite being a newcomer to the franchise, genuinely loves Sonic.

    • @Psyche_TH
      @Psyche_TH Před 9 dny +139

      Deeprooted conflict of interest within Sega, and probably language barrier making execs think that as long as he was talking about Sonic it was all good. 'All press is good press' type of deal.

    • @SnaksiXD
      @SnaksiXD Před 9 dny +153

      The Sonic social team was doing a lot of self-depricating humor during that time, so Arin was the obvious pick to go with that narrative. We're lucky to have gotten past those times.

    • @w21aaaaa
      @w21aaaaa Před 9 dny +103

      Sonic PR was in this weird phase of "Our games suck and we're in on the joke too! Haha" and they thought that it would maybe salvage the brand.
      But no, people just dunk on it even more except for die hard fans.

    • @mimic1531
      @mimic1531 Před 9 dny +52

      All die hard fans I know criticize new sonic games heavily, because they love it so much they want it to be better. And it's valid criticisms as far as I can tell.

    • @spongebobfan78
      @spongebobfan78 Před 9 dny +30

      @@w21aaaaa Actually, it did work. IIRC, there are even news articles giving credit to the social media team at the time. It just lasted way too long when people already moved on from the irony phase.

  • @jack-exzolt9858
    @jack-exzolt9858 Před 9 dny +535

    Arin came from a time when Sonic was appealing to the negative reception of the brand. They were pretty self-defeating and self-deprecating.
    Having Korone as the new one, meant that the Sonic fandom outgrew its teenage phase and time to be optimistic for a change.

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn Před 9 dny +58

      Most of the negativity comed from yhe western fandom, the japanese side has more fans capable of providimg critcism without being obnoxious so there is that too

    • @deddrz2549
      @deddrz2549 Před 9 dny +26

      @@akiradkcn Japanese fans don't usually provide criticism, they just don't buy the games as much when they are bad. The west can be annoying with criticism but I think Japan ussuall end up being very light on it even when it is deserved

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn Před 8 dny +10

      @@deddrz2549 japanese being extremely polite ends up being less of a truth and more of a sterotype when comes to actual online interactions instead of live interactions outside of it.
      They can be and totally are just as critical, savage and even snarky when comes to voicing negative opinions and critcism online
      That, on top of also actually speaking with their wallet as you mentioned (unlike most people here in the west who complain about a product and STILL buy it anyways)

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 Před 8 dny +6

      ​@@akiradkcnthe japanece just don't buy Sonic games in general, like its not like sonic is an unknown franchise but frontiers was the best selling sonic game in Japan since adventure 2 and it only sold like 40k copies
      Meanwhile world wide it sold over 3 millions units and i can assure you a good chunk of those sales come from america alone

    • @AusVtuber
      @AusVtuber Před 8 dny +10

      The Fandom never wanted that negative face of the franchise. The internet dunked on Sonic throughout the 2010's, hyper fixating on every conceivable issue the games could have, even when games like Colors, Generations, and Sonic Mania were coming out. It was a miserable time to be a Sonic fan, and Arin being the Sonic Ambassador was probably the perfect personification of that era.

  • @smoggie878
    @smoggie878 Před 8 dny +160

    You can tell the literal turning point was the first sonic movie. The moment it was actually well received and praised for having effort being put into a polished product was the day their marketing team decided to do a 180.

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 Před 8 dny +27

      A positive reaction actually sell their products! MIND BLOWING amiright?
      Sega marketing used to be morons. Not anymore.

    • @lemon5000-tj6nv
      @lemon5000-tj6nv Před 6 dny +2

      The success of the movie and frontiers made Sega Sammy lock in

  • @Kougeru
    @Kougeru Před 9 dny +245

    My favorite part is that they technically only announced Korone would be ambassador for 2022... But it worked out so well that they kept her

  • @Youngphyconaut
    @Youngphyconaut Před 9 dny +219

    Korone can literally play any game and make it feel like the most fun game to ever exist. It's no wonder Sega picked her to advertise their game!

    • @Drac0blade16
      @Drac0blade16 Před 7 dny +3

      That's the power of positivity. Which Korone has in spades.

    • @1khaitoh
      @1khaitoh Před 6 dny +3

      Meanwhile Kaela just throwing "Where's next update? No pressure." Left and right to games she plays. 😂

  • @Syiepherze
    @Syiepherze Před 9 dny +591

    Wait there's a SHADOW KORONE??? 🤯

    • @01100101011100100111
      @01100101011100100111 Před 9 dny +54

      She usually only comes out when OBS is really screwing over Korone.

    • @waterzoip
      @waterzoip Před 9 dny +17

      Gotta be sneaky to get them yubi

    • @MarioMasterProductions
      @MarioMasterProductions Před 9 dny +3

      I didn't know that

    • @CrystalTigerclaw
      @CrystalTigerclaw Před 8 dny +13

      Shadow Korone be like: Keep your fingers. I love and care for you guys!

    • @thegreatgonzales6813
      @thegreatgonzales6813 Před 8 dny +7

      @@CrystalTigerclaw”You want to go to bed? That’s okay, you can always watch the rest of the stream tomorrow.”

  • @Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets
    @Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets Před 9 dny +498

    Like upgrading from a vaguely chair shaped rock to a La-z-boy with built in massage function and heating

    • @LokiThePug
      @LokiThePug Před 6 dny +2

      Not even a chair, just a rock

  • @pixelpastiche
    @pixelpastiche Před 9 dny +209

    Some people truly know what it is to love rolling around at the speed of sound.

  • @marcheharvey2301
    @marcheharvey2301 Před 9 dny +578

    From "I love my opinions" to "I love Sonic"

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 Před 9 dny +47

      It’s less “I love my opinions” to “I love torturing myself for entertainment.”

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Před 9 dny +22

      ​@@calebm9000 "I love Sonic" still sounds a 1000 times better than that, ngl.

    • @elderjose9662
      @elderjose9662 Před 8 dny +13

      more like ''i think I'm better than everyone else'' to ''I love everybody else''

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 Před 8 dny +10

      @@chriswihulu I mean, Korone also made fun of Sonic games for being kinda notoriously shitty lmao. Personally I can dig both.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Před 8 dny +5

      @@calebm9000 that's a given, I'd be shocked if someone would claim it never happened or didn't impact the player experience. I think, it's more about how you "sum up" that experience and what you take away from it.
      Personal example; I struggled with Starfield and it's numerous crashes, bugs and wonky physics, but I still had fun, captured the best/worst of them and would recommend it to others.

  • @toshosh55
    @toshosh55 Před 9 dny +165

    never would I ever have expected this channel to feature Arnold Johnson from the controversial gaming channel Jane Grunts

  • @oscarcacnio8418
    @oscarcacnio8418 Před 9 dny +47

    A lot of people here talking about Arin being a bad fit for Brand Ambassador of Sonic Team and the end of a certain era of CZcams.
    Meanwhile I'm here, climbing out of a pile of late 2000's HP Pavilions, just learning that they even _had_ Brand Ambassador as a role before 2020.

  • @jamugames9989
    @jamugames9989 Před 7 dny +18

    Korone is a goofy little sweet potato and genuinely loves to play games. It would be be pretty difficult to find someone who would make a better ambassador for your game imo.

  • @Murmur_65
    @Murmur_65 Před 9 dny +47

    I never even knew Korone voiced on Sonic 2 and i am SHOCKED to know that she voiced there

    • @anrye
      @anrye Před 8 dny +1

      WHAT

    • @karactr8361
      @karactr8361 Před 7 dny +5

      @@anrye she was a VA in the JP dub of Sonic 2

    • @Artista_Frustrado
      @Artista_Frustrado Před 7 dny +2

      wait, who did she voice?

    • @karactr8361
      @karactr8361 Před 7 dny

      @@Artista_Frustrado that i do not know. Never watched the Sonic movies much less their JP dubs. I guess you could Google it or check the imdb

  • @justinmontana3710
    @justinmontana3710 Před 9 dny +182

    To the shock of everyone, having a brand ambassador that actually likes the brand they're a part of makes more people want to engage with the brand

    • @timepatroltrunks8276
      @timepatroltrunks8276 Před 8 dny +4

      Outside the movies less people are engaging with the Sonic brand

    • @Dogan_TM
      @Dogan_TM Před 8 dny +5

      @@timepatroltrunks8276 Source: Idk, feels like it kinda sorta.

    • @lemon5000-tj6nv
      @lemon5000-tj6nv Před 6 dny

      @@timepatroltrunks8276frontiers is literally the best selling 3d game

    • @ethanweld4205
      @ethanweld4205 Před 5 dny

      Arin loved it. I bet he loved sonic underground and the archie comics.

  • @thelastwindwaker7948
    @thelastwindwaker7948 Před 9 dny +48

    Meanwhile Arin was just like “when was I ever the ambassador?”

    • @2222Kai2222
      @2222Kai2222 Před 7 dny

      Sadly 90+% of the people here won't realize or care about that. They will simply shit on the ironically cynical guy who they've never watched with any context and praise their precious vtuber. I think Korone is awesome, but I think most vtuber fans are ignorant morons with blinders on 24/7.

  • @MrSHADOWANGEL999
    @MrSHADOWANGEL999 Před 9 dny +118

    Gotta go doggo

  • @StriderHoang
    @StriderHoang Před 9 dny +181

    Arin’s era was a Black Mirror to how the Sonic brand became this self-aware character to itself. Korone is a far more suitable ambassador and even mirror: someone who can find genuine joy out of gaming, even if they humorously stumble through it.

  • @emdee123
    @emdee123 Před 9 dny +321

    Cory from Oneyplays would have been a more suitable ambassador than Arin

    • @gabrielchin4161
      @gabrielchin4161 Před 9 dny +87

      Korone for the public facing side, Cory for the unhinged underbelly side.

    • @Oh-Ben
      @Oh-Ben Před 9 dny +54

      its weird that Cory can act more professional than Arin

    • @Lampoluke
      @Lampoluke Před 9 dny +42

      All the president Cory sketches really sold me on the fact that Cory should never be in charge of something

    • @caldog619
      @caldog619 Před 9 dny +16

      True. I heard that guy knows Ronald Regan

    • @TheNonEdibleCheese
      @TheNonEdibleCheese Před 9 dny +28

      The problem is that Cory is friends with Tomar, and all the blood on Tomar's hands isn't a hurdle that Cory could overcome. So many lives destroyed by Tomar... 😢

  • @moisesfreire6408
    @moisesfreire6408 Před 9 dny +236

    I don't watch V-tubers but I'm somewhat glad the current landscape of "letsplay" videos on CZcams is dominated by anime girls instead of bearded duded.

    • @kairokuys6991
      @kairokuys6991 Před 9 dny +30

      There's still a few good "let's play" dudes out there.
      Case in point, NicoB.

    • @gamechannel1271
      @gamechannel1271 Před 9 dny

      Who

    • @leonlegend
      @leonlegend Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@kairokuys6991& Oneyplays

    • @steventonche1037
      @steventonche1037 Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@kairokuys6991 I actually started watching oneyplays a lot more nowadays aside from vtubers

    • @jayjjey1400
      @jayjjey1400 Před 8 dny

      Check out NicoB. You’re gonna love him

  • @mysticruin6043
    @mysticruin6043 Před 9 dny +15

    We love and appreciate Korone.

  • @gob.gobolin
    @gob.gobolin Před 9 dny +116

    I've never really watched the Game Grumps but the clips of Arin raging at Sonic are hilarious.

    • @TeamBelmont91
      @TeamBelmont91 Před 9 dny +32

      Want my advice? Stick to the first year with Jon and then move onto OneyPlays. Believe me - the drama and nonsense due to Arin and his -employees- "friends" isn't worth it.

    • @makotoyuki9760
      @makotoyuki9760 Před 9 dny +5

      I love it when Arin frustrated when he tried to fish Froggy in Sonic Adventure.

    • @zzskyninjazz1821
      @zzskyninjazz1821 Před 9 dny +30

      @@TeamBelmont91nah I disagree.

    • @TeamBelmont91
      @TeamBelmont91 Před 9 dny +7

      ​@@zzskyninjazz1821Y'sure you don't wanna rethink that statement?
      Because the DreamDaddy debacle -will- might prove otherwise.

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 Před 9 dny +16

      @@TeamBelmont91sure, but that doesn’t necessarily negate someone’s enjoyment of the later series. Fwiw I almost exclusively watch Oneyplays now but not really for that reason. I just like the funny screaming men.

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow Před 9 dny +178

    Who would want to hire a guy to represent a brand that continually tells people the brand is trash?

    • @doob626
      @doob626 Před 9 dny +31

      Agreed, “I absolutely love sonic, sponsor me, but don’t make any more games because every single one is and will be ass.”
      Talk about double faced, dude’s fun to watch but the way he shit talks about something he claims to like, probably because the sponsorship, is just wrong.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo Před 9 dny +34

      You had to be there. A LOT of the North American marketing for Sonic in the 2010's was "Yo, check out how dogshit our games are? You'll get a billion views if you play our shitty games. Aren't we cool for acknowledging how shit our games are?" And it was FRUSTRATING!

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +13

      ​@@doob626What are you even saying, he has never shit talked Sonic in his career (seriously). He's only ever shit talked Sonic games, I think all of them. He has always been honest and always says he doesn't know why he became the ambassador

    • @doob626
      @doob626 Před 9 dny +7

      @@rokudodamaza Sonic is a video game series…

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +8

      @@doob626 Sonic is a character... Sonic is a franchise... There is a Sonic game but Sonic has games, Sonic isn't a video game, Sonic has video games almost none called "Sonic". Even if we don't talk specifics, please be aware he never meant Sonic the character, his shows or anything else, nust the video games, because it's his opinion, doesn't matter if it's right or worng doesn't matter if all Sonic games are just called Sonic, as long as you're aware he meant Sonic Video Games when he says "THEY'RE FUCKING SHIT!" then there's no argument or discussion here (minus frontiers, he liked frontiers)

  • @TheMrPandaGamer1
    @TheMrPandaGamer1 Před 3 dny +1

    Arin is the initial stage of being a sonic fan, Korone is the expert level where you accept the "sega doesn't get better than this"

  • @MrPotato578
    @MrPotato578 Před 8 dny +12

    Liquid chris was the real OG

  • @PeiceofNick
    @PeiceofNick Před 9 dny +137

    Arin: I love Sonic! (The Character)
    Also Arin a mere 0.1 secs later: I fucking hate Sonic! (The Games)

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo Před 9 dny +25

      He literally said it's the games he hates, and he only loves the characters and shows. He has always been honest about that. I 100% disagree with him, but you can never say that Arin has ever lied about his weird Sonic opinions.

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +2

      ​@@Hey-Its-DingoThank you, said exactly what I was thinking

    • @justcallmekai1554
      @justcallmekai1554 Před 8 dny +6

      ​@@Hey-Its-DingoYeah but here's the thing. He was an Ambassador of a series which primarily focuses and is known for its games. I also very much disagree with Arin but in this context it's such a weird decision to have him as Ambassador. When the Ambassador constantly says how much he hates your games, do you think ppl will turn up for beyond the poisoned irony? Idk it doesn't matter that much to me but it's just baffling lol.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo Před 8 dny +11

      @@justcallmekai1554 Sonic's marketing was very much irony poisoned in the 2010s. SEGA were the ones who hired Arin, he didn't audition for it.

    • @justcallmekai1554
      @justcallmekai1554 Před 8 dny +2

      @@Hey-Its-Dingo No no I know that I was just stating it was a baffling decision even if they were doing the irony bit back then. It was just a bad idea through and through and showed a lack of confidence. Plus I'm sure he was able to refuse? Idk the specifics of their decisions.

  • @Magnet_Chaos
    @Magnet_Chaos Před 7 dny +11

    Sonic Games being janky really doesn't mix well with Arin being objectively bad at games.... and also hating Sonic. Essentially causing Confirmation Bias.

  • @thenoisyninja
    @thenoisyninja Před 8 dny +34

    Arin has this need to be tsundere about shit he likes like hes introducing his girlfriend to his lego collection.
    On the other hand, Korone can slide stock pngs across her background for four hours and make it look illegally fun

  • @lemon5000-tj6nv
    @lemon5000-tj6nv Před 6 dny +3

    I have no idea why Aron Webber thought it was a good idea to make Arin an ambassador, even with the whole self aware meme marketing he was doing at the time

  • @sunshineskystar
    @sunshineskystar Před 8 dny +23

    The irony and self deprecating era and its consequence have been a disaster to human race.

    • @lemon5000-tj6nv
      @lemon5000-tj6nv Před 6 dny

      That self aware meme marketing era Aron Webber tried doing was peak cringe

  • @Goof-Bot
    @Goof-Bot Před 7 dny +4

    I’ve never heard of Korone until a few days ago but wow she is super wholesome!

  • @kaorupangilan6288
    @kaorupangilan6288 Před 8 dny +5

    Cory wouldve ironically a more better ambassador than arin tbh. despite how much of a tism cory is , he has quite the rather properly spread out takes rather than "sonic games bad"

  • @fredyholguin2525
    @fredyholguin2525 Před 8 dny +7

    Sega didn't do research while choosing Arin as his embassador?
    By that point there were many videos of Arin ragging because of Sonic
    Arin was a bad embassador? Yes
    It was Arin fault to be choosen ? No

    • @lemon5000-tj6nv
      @lemon5000-tj6nv Před 6 dny +1

      Aron Webber (the guy who ran sonic social media at the time) picked them cuz he likes their content, that was literally it

  • @wispyjazz2711
    @wispyjazz2711 Před 8 dny +7

    There's quite a bit of anger in the comments so uh...I'll just say that they are both good for their time, but as most normal commenters have said: Korone is the better choice nowadays overall :>

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 Před 8 dny +6

      I used to like GG. But holy dang their hipocrisy pissed me off. The thing they did to Oney Plays boys Ding Dong and Julian

    • @brianwalsh1339
      @brianwalsh1339 Před 4 dny

      @@kos2919yeah having learned about that, fuck Arin and fuck Game Grumps.

  • @gamingguru2k6
    @gamingguru2k6 Před 5 dny +1

    Imagine hiring people who like your game to promote it. What a crazy idea.

  • @Run-Riot
    @Run-Riot Před 6 dny +2

    Egoraptor fell off after he stopped being an animator and started being a fleshtuber.
    Anyways, nice to see the Sucky Person vs Korone series continue.

  • @hamzahax
    @hamzahax Před 9 dny +44

    Not really a fan of Game Grumps but it's pretty weird to me that they made him the ambassador of all people

    • @Oh-Ben
      @Oh-Ben Před 9 dny +15

      he was friends with most the people who ran the sonic twitter account during its golden era (because they where fans of him).

  • @user-gk6gf1lq9x
    @user-gk6gf1lq9x Před 9 dny +172

    I mean, he never stood a chance in terms of comparison. He's just some dude and Korone is a professional entertainer from Japan.

    • @zzskyninjazz1821
      @zzskyninjazz1821 Před 9 dny +45

      Plus the vtuber model can help with more marketability

    • @user-gk6gf1lq9x
      @user-gk6gf1lq9x Před 9 dny +35

      ​​@@zzskyninjazz1821I'd love to agree, but I think its more of a double-edged sword. Especially in the West and Europe. Seen plenty of people on the Internet, who are into anime, yet trash talk vtubers. Same goes for streamers and content creators in general.
      I think a lot of people still perceive it as weird or deceptive. Completely forgetting that their favourite actors and creators are also putting on a facade and acting out a role.
      But in terms of model being seen as a tool - its very versatile and useful, so I completely agree in that regard.

    • @sandspada
      @sandspada Před 9 dny +12

      That's selling Korone too much. She barely had any streaming experience or technical knowhow when she started in 2019, and only joined Hololive because she was a retro gamer who was friends with one of the original members. The fact that she's managed to become a professional entertainer is purely incidental

    • @leandroiuki4337
      @leandroiuki4337 Před 9 dny +19

      ​@@sandspadaShe finished more games than anyone. Played for longer time than anyone. We just don't have a list of what she played, but if you start to search it's endless, literally. 😂

    • @Koronium
      @Koronium Před 9 dny +15

      Also, it's great business to market towards kids rather than adults imo. Just going based upon the fact that the biggest youtube channels are kids oriented. Old sonic heads are going to play sonic, but for getting new generations in a cute anime girl is way better than some creepy adult cosplay sonic.
      So it doesn't even matter if adults trash vtubers, it's the kids opinion that is more valued.

  • @skinnygoliath2567
    @skinnygoliath2567 Před 4 dny

    I would love to see a side by side drawing of Arin at his lowest during one of his power hour moments compared to Korone happily wearing a sonic hoodie. sonic ambassador passing on the title

  • @JoshuaPAMployee
    @JoshuaPAMployee Před 8 dny +2

    Still waiting for the Korone DLC in the west! 😢

  • @CarbonMalite
    @CarbonMalite Před 9 dny +201

    I don't think Arin is at fault for anything wrong with Sonic and that he's allowed to criticize, but it makes so much more sense for a large JP icon like Korone to take the reins.

    • @wildbard4112
      @wildbard4112 Před 9 dny +72

      He's definitely at fault though. He's allowed to criticize, but he does nothing but shit on the games. He even backed a Sonic game only to publicly shit on it.

    • @darkrow8488
      @darkrow8488 Před 9 dny +48

      There's a difference between criticize and straight up hate/shit on it you know

    • @darkwar232100
      @darkwar232100 Před 9 dny +24

      Yeah and went to Japan official acting like a underaged child…

    • @dee_dee4640
      @dee_dee4640 Před 9 dny +19

      @@wildbard4112the same thing when it comes to the sonic fanbase. Like yeah Arin sucks but like the sonic fanbase needs to let go of their beef with him even though he already got replaced

    • @rcane6842
      @rcane6842 Před 9 dny +31

      Not an avid Sonic fan, but I think the guy did the Sonic franchise dirty and might've made potential Sonic fans avoid the franchise.

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 Před 8 dny +1

    amazing history.

  • @xenosomega
    @xenosomega Před 7 dny +2

    Korone is the master of making everything fun. Thanks to her, I've been trying all the Sonic games again after like 15yrs of not touching them at all. So whatever game she plays or recommends, I just try most of them now. She even got me to enjoy Star Wars again after Disney ruined it with 789 ...but then the Acolyte managed to ruined it all again lol

  • @PKSuperStar256
    @PKSuperStar256 Před 9 dny +23

    I wonder what JP Sonic fans are like.

    • @Oh-Ben
      @Oh-Ben Před 9 dny +14

      Like Korone :3

    • @spongebobfan78
      @spongebobfan78 Před 9 dny +4

      Probably "why does America get the good stuff (comics, shows, and some games)?"

    • @PKSuperStar256
      @PKSuperStar256 Před 8 dny

      @@spongebobfan78, I guess that's why games like Mother and EarthBound (Mother 2) exist as they're basically a depiction of the Japanese view of the US.

    • @lackluster4777
      @lackluster4777 Před 8 dny +1

      ​@@spongebobfan78 "the good stuff" and it's Archie comics, AOSTH, Underground and 4kids version of Sonic X

    • @Dorian_Scott
      @Dorian_Scott Před 8 dny

      @@lackluster4777 As much I'm nostalgic towards the 4Kids dub of Sonic X, I *_DO_* think it's pretty terrible. Underground isn't much better, sadly. Never read any of the comics tho.

  • @waterteafan9264
    @waterteafan9264 Před 8 dny +2

    True Sonic Fan Korone🗣️

  • @mattinscratch
    @mattinscratch Před 8 dny +2

    Good dog!

  • @GooseGamesAndMore
    @GooseGamesAndMore Před 2 dny

    Man, I Love Korone

  • @omgodification
    @omgodification Před 8 dny +7

    I cannot wrap my head about whatever Arin's mouth spews everytime he opens it
    Dude's a walking contradiction half the time

  • @wildbard4112
    @wildbard4112 Před 9 dny +86

    Thank god they dropped Arin. I like the guy but you should not work with someone who constantly shits on your product. It makes you look really bad.

    • @bcd32dok36
      @bcd32dok36 Před 9 dny +12

      To be fair for a while sega didn’t do well with the franchise. They are redeeming themselves now with frontiers at least.

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo Před 9 dny +27

      The funniest thing is that Arin has said multiple times that he doesn't understand why SEGA hired him. (He has actually been less shitty about Sonic since no longer working for them. And he actually had fun with Frontiers. He tried to stay his cynical "I hate Sonic" self at the start, but after the first Titan battle, his only complaints were things literally everyone agreed were the worst parts of Frontiers)

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +7

      ​@@Hey-Its-DingoBut he doesn't hate Sonic, he proclaimed every single time he loves Sonic, he doesn't like Sonic games which is his opinion wrong or right and he has always been honest, he liked frontiers and always says he doesn't know why hr became the ambassador

    • @Hey-Its-Dingo
      @Hey-Its-Dingo Před 9 dny

      @@rokudodamaza I am aware, I literally said the same thing to someone else. I was talking about how he plays it up when they play Sonic games.

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +2

      @@Hey-Its-Dingo I'm sorry, I'm pretty sure I was replying to someone else but it replied to you instead. There's no one in this reply chain that said Arin hates Sonic so I'm pretty sure somehow my text got prepressed to someone else's reply in another comment. As in I clicked on a text to reply, keyboard on phone doesn't come up, couldn'twait so went to another comment, clicked to reply there but the name from previous clicked text came up and somehow overlapped the keyboard. I'm 99% sure I was replying to someone who specifically said Arin hates Sonic

  • @AsecasJavi
    @AsecasJavi Před 8 dny +2

    Plays colors on switch
    Plays heroes on ps2

  • @PrixtoTNT
    @PrixtoTNT Před 2 hodinami

    Wait holy crap, I knew about the Korone x Sonic Colors Ultimate collab, but she dubbed someone in Sonic 2??? Wow.
    I also didn't know about the Sonic Frontiers X Korone thing shown in the video, what the heck. Crazy

  • @whatgari
    @whatgari Před 7 dny +3

    They had and arin and jarrard at the hq. They knew. To think arin would work with them for ever is silly. Cool on korone tho. No one outside the vtuber sphere knows about it tho

  • @Kuzamer
    @Kuzamer Před 7 dny +1

    We were in the fucking trenches 😭😭😭

  • @Cloudeusz
    @Cloudeusz Před 9 dny +1

    Imma be real I didn’t know either of them were sonic ambassadors. Hell I didn’t even know it had an ambassador

  • @deconyus3412
    @deconyus3412 Před 9 dny +12

    different landscapes. liking sonic was not cool back then so arin's dual natured love/hatred was probably seen as self-aware by marketing. of course korone's better suited for today where sonic isn't as despised by the public, shes a animal vtuber into retro games, whats more marketable than that?

  • @skunkface_
    @skunkface_ Před 9 dny +30

    Sonic is notoriously unpopular in his home country, so someone as big as Korone being his ambassador makes sense

  • @2222Kai2222
    @2222Kai2222 Před 7 dny +2

    @Just Egg-san All you've done with this video and its unnecessary comparisons is create a toxic comment section

  • @JaceAce22
    @JaceAce22 Před 6 dny

    Arin and Sonic Twitter teaming up was something for the community, but with how Arin himself presents gameplay and his honest critique of games, he's definitely no shoe in to actually help promote games.
    Granted, Sega earns their poor reputation with Sonic, but it's a good idea to restrain brutal honesty and not publicly admit your pessimism of a franchise's upcoming release when you've been given a spot on their team.
    Arin's personality around Sonic doesn't make him a good promoter, but his passion for critique helps speak for up for game communities.

  • @takyo8283
    @takyo8283 Před 8 dny

    Are these the original voices the "i love you" and the "what is this"

  • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
    @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Před 9 dny +2

    I like Korone for the role better.
    But I will give Arin this:
    He DOES love Sonic... the character. And I love him in that dress.
    But. He did make it clear he doesnt like the somic games. So. Yeah. Not the perfect brand ambassador.

  • @KenanVonKaiser
    @KenanVonKaiser Před 9 dny +7

    Korone Is Peak Ambassador!

  • @rainyfriday6175
    @rainyfriday6175 Před 8 dny

    Did we ever get the Korone DLC’s in the west?

  • @verachannel7091
    @verachannel7091 Před 8 dny +2

    I enjoy both versions, of ambassador even if ones a lot more effective than the other (korone being better at promoting the games by a mile) the arin hate form sonic fans is hilarious to me though, i love the games, but shits still funny

    • @kos2919
      @kos2919 Před 8 dny

      hate don't sell game.

  • @WindowGray
    @WindowGray Před 9 dny +28

    Hey if Arin ever says that a Sonic game is bad, he can at least be grateful he isn’t playin Dream Daddy

  • @MagnificantSasquatch
    @MagnificantSasquatch Před 9 dny +33

    "hurrhurr ironic sonic fan hurrhurr hurrhurr sanic go fast hurrhurr poop joke hurrhurr"
    To
    "I’m going fast and having such a good time, wowow"
    The difference in quality of person is like going from the f*cking Emoji Movie to Toy Story.

  • @rainbowprism6242
    @rainbowprism6242 Před 8 dny +4

    Not many can be proud of meeting real Sonic. Korone deserves this.

  • @salcaalpaca3428
    @salcaalpaca3428 Před 9 dny +4

    We made it out of the dark age

  • @Harmony270
    @Harmony270 Před 8 dny

    that plush is worth £150 btw

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 Před 8 dny +17

    Getting Arin Hanson to be the Sonic Ambassador is like getting Morgan Spurlock to be an ambassador of McDonalds; it's entirely self-defeating for no reason other than to cater to a demographic who'll never give your series/ products the time of day. Korone's at least energetic and passionate about the series, despite her being a new-comer and her Sonic playing skills being on the amateur side.

  • @tarouyamada9351
    @tarouyamada9351 Před 5 dny

    数年違えば配信者の流行やキャラ特性も変わるだろうし、どちらが良い悪いという評価も難しいけど、ここ数年のゲーム実況しか知らない私にとって前半の内容はけっこう未知&衝撃だったわ、、、🤔

  • @RayzeCruxis
    @RayzeCruxis Před 8 dny

    Alright so when will Korone be the ambassador for the reboot of Burning Rangers?

  • @jucabnubster
    @jucabnubster Před 8 dny +1

    I totally understand why someone would go for someone who actually enjoys the content as an ambassador, but it is a funny story if they just paid Arin to absolutely poo on the franchise. Bad news is still news, after all

  • @ThanatosSD
    @ThanatosSD Před 9 dny +27

    We all make mistakes and clearly Sega did a big one with that guy. Korone is really the best ambassador you could choose, I never saw someone being so enthusiastic and charmed to this much loved franchise.

  • @skullgamer64
    @skullgamer64 Před 8 dny +1

    Arin as the Sonic Ambassador is cringe.

  • @mattmelton7389
    @mattmelton7389 Před 9 dny +34

    Korone is much better.

  • @sincerelyotaku7878
    @sincerelyotaku7878 Před 9 dny +2

    He was? Isn't he just the guy who is just bad at sonic games? Lol sorry arin i still love u 😂

  • @NinjaPopeXue
    @NinjaPopeXue Před 9 dny +2

    Haha, here's me who loves both Arin and Korone. They play opposite sorts of on-screen characters (well, Arin is rarely on-screen outside of their sub-channel) and I find them both highly entertaining.

  • @LuqmanHakim-xi9qz
    @LuqmanHakim-xi9qz Před 6 dny

    So Sega has trouble choosing English speaking ambassadors for their game for a long time. *Looking at LAD's ambassadors.

  • @shadow7179
    @shadow7179 Před 9 dny +43

    Sonic 06 absolutely deserved that trashing from JonTron and Arin back in the day, game was broken (not in a good way) af. I do agree Arin wasn't a good fit as Sega Ambassador but at that time I'm not sure if there was anyone better though (in between him and Korone I'm sure there were some people better suited for the job like say Antdude but I'm not sure if Sega would agree with his stance on Sonic fangames and mods)

    • @sansnom5269
      @sansnom5269 Před 9 dny +18

      There was a time when I actually enjoyed Game Grumps. It took me some time to understand the funny, silly guy who doesn't equip a shield on Ocarina of Time is actually doing that on purpose, so he can create fake outrage and rage content. Sega also took some time to understand that Arin was trashing their franchise, and not celebrating it.

    • @01100101011100100111
      @01100101011100100111 Před 9 dny +6

      That was actually one of my favorite series Jon and Arin did, too. I was so devastated they didn't finish it.

    • @toniodivichi5749
      @toniodivichi5749 Před 9 dny +1

      this

  • @XaneKudo
    @XaneKudo Před 9 dny +13

    From what I see, Arin's allowed to criticize the games however he wants, but as an Ambassador for Sonic, he wasn't a good fit. Sure, everyone shared the same opinions that he did about the games, and a lot of them were very valid ones, but that didn't really get people to go buy the latest games to enjoy them. Overall, it didn't help sell Sonic, but he was far from the main cause.
    Korone, on the other hand, does seem like she genuinely enjoys the games and loves the character for what he stands for (but he's second fiddle to Knuckles, her true love). There's also the fact that she became Ambassador in 2022, when Sega had some good stuff going around for him (Sonic Frontiers, the Sonic movies, Twitter/X questions with the cast in-character, etc), so you could argue that it was unfortunate timing on Arin's part as well.

    • @Psyche_TH
      @Psyche_TH Před 9 dny +6

      The context is definitely different but you can equalise it by considering how Arin didn't praise or highlight the few things that were good about Sonic games at the time and instead focused solely on what made them bad which everyone already knew about, whereas Korone is not unnecessarily going out of her way to find the flaws and shortcomings in the new media, because even though Frontiers, the films, etc are an improvement they're still far from perfect. When you are literally given the job of making something look good, you are really bad at that job if you can't find a single nice thing to say about the products you're supposed to be promoting. Those games were bad but they were not unmarketable.

  • @NotPeashyBee
    @NotPeashyBee Před 9 dny +1

    I wonder who made that tweet in the beginning

    • @boxerhummer
      @boxerhummer Před 8 dny

      Well it can't be someone who's Peashy Bee, that's for sure.

  • @ReiAyanami8
    @ReiAyanami8 Před 9 dny +57

    "I have a unique relationship with Sonic in that I literally don't like a single Sonic game and yet Sonic is one of my favorite franchises of all time."
    Man, it's really hard to tell if Arin is as self aware as all his defenders keep insisting that he is or if he's actually as, if not more, stupid as everyone else thinks he is because *THAT'S LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING SONIC FAN THESE DAYS!*

    • @Handepsilon
      @Handepsilon Před 9 dny +2

      That's... not true though. People didn't like most of his Modern shtick, but most has atleast one or two games that they like.

  • @Koronesuki1313
    @Koronesuki1313 Před 9 dny +3

    Shadow Korone!!!

  • @thsudy
    @thsudy Před 7 dny +7

    Lets be honest a Corporation like Holo would never be honest with the fans nor the game about the condition of Sonic.
    bro they had an interview with Morbius for cryingout loud Lmao

    • @SerialK1986
      @SerialK1986 Před 7 dny +4

      Fair, but come on, watching Jared Leto being confused and uncomfortable about the fact that he's being interviewed by an anime Japanese fox girl was worth it, lol.

    • @JamesP7
      @JamesP7 Před 7 dny +3

      To be more fair, wasn’t that interview before the movie came out?

  • @Gwydionysus
    @Gwydionysus Před 9 dny +42

    Well, why did they hire him in the first place? I've got nothing against him OR Sonic, but if someone clearly doesn't like the (often clunky) games, why make him a representative of their franchise? Korone is obviously a much better choice.

    • @RecordToDeathToBoredom
      @RecordToDeathToBoredom Před 9 dny +9

      Maybe because they didn't know at the time of hiring him. If they fire him so soon after, it'd give them bad rep.

    • @adrianaslund8605
      @adrianaslund8605 Před 9 dny +7

      Because he does love Sonic. Sort of..kind of. He just hates the games. And his love hate relationship is pretty funny, paradoxical and ironic. I can appreciate it for what it is.

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 Před 9 dny +9

      Because the game grumps Sonic playthroughs were always legendary. They attracted angry sonic fans who ranted that Arin just didn’t “get” them and blamed him for glitching the games on purpose, even when he would just walk forward and fall through the map. Still, it was entertaining and he and Jon/Dan would still get into the lore and characters.
      Eventually, the Sonic Twitter account got into it and started interacting with them and sending them free stuff. At some point you have to be aware that most people associate your games with low quality and just show some self-awareness, and I think this was the perfect opportunity.
      Like he said, he legit loves sonic as a character, just that the games drive him insane. There’s enough room there to make an interesting sponsor.

    • @Necroskull388
      @Necroskull388 Před 9 dny +3

      It seems to be that the English-speaking social media team had the (good) idea of bantering with him and his ambivalent feelings towards Sonic to bring attention to the Sonic brand, and corporate higher ups thought (for some reason), “Hey, the social media guys are using this guy to bring attention to our brand, we should make him our official ambassador!” with seemingly no thought put into that decision whatsoever.

    • @Psyche_TH
      @Psyche_TH Před 9 dny +2

      Apparently the social media manager was a big Game Grumps fan.

  • @SerialK1986
    @SerialK1986 Před 7 dny +4

    Say what you will about the modern Sonic games, but yeeting Arin Grumps, and replacing him with God Dog Korone as the brand ambassador for the Sonic franchise was one of the best things the marketing team at Sonic Team and Sega have ever done.

  • @ViperousVT
    @ViperousVT Před 8 dny

    Morons was a perfect choice to advertise Sonic ❤😊

  • @ascrein5247
    @ascrein5247 Před 9 dny +1

    Lol. They gave you a skirt instead of a male outfit instead??? That was funny.

  • @IdiotRebecca251
    @IdiotRebecca251 Před 8 dny +3

    Honestly Arin being made the Sonic ambassador kinda felt like a defense mechanism like “oooo look at us we know our franchise sucks so we hired the guy who hates us to be our ambassador we’re so self aware we’ve never been good please like us PLEASE LIKE US”

  • @pizza_is_seiso
    @pizza_is_seiso Před 8 dny +4

    The comparison between Korone and Arin is pretty goofy and fun to reflect on. But a lot of the comments here and on Twitter suck.
    Weird personal attacks against Arin/Game Grumps. Really didn't care for how things were framed in the original tweet.
    I'm happy for Korone, and Arin/Game Grumps. And I'm happy for Sonic and the Sonic team, looks like their future is looking more and more bright & promising these days.

  • @testthetime
    @testthetime Před 9 dny +8

    There also are a certain alchemist that really LOVE Sonic, he could be a good potential one

    • @01100101011100100111
      @01100101011100100111 Před 9 dny +9

      That alchemist isn't practicing anymore, but there is a professor that could fill in for him.

    • @mshake7056
      @mshake7056 Před 9 dny

      He could have been it, but he decided to leave

  • @blacknight7559
    @blacknight7559 Před 8 dny +1

    Korone totally got the better end of the stick being able to interact with all the great things of being a sonic fan with out having to be a Sonic fan

  • @dr.shakib9961
    @dr.shakib9961 Před 7 dny +4

    Some loud guy that makes the brand look bad or a cute anime girl who is genuinely a fan of Sonic... gee decisions.. desicions..

  • @vgc_ivan8391
    @vgc_ivan8391 Před 2 dny

    Airn was a bad choice, he like sonic as a character but isn't fond of the modern games. And when it was happening, he was extremely negative towards Sonic fans.
    Korone is the right choice, she likes the sonic franchise. She experienced the good and bad of the games but still loves them.
    And you can see her fan girl off the bat when something catches her eyes

  • @thesalvadorianwarrior798

    Talk about a blast from the past. A long time ago I would watch these toxic streamers, next decade I’m watching wholesome content from Vtubers. I don’t even know what Arin is been doing lately but I don’t wanna know.
    Stay away from toxic streamers guys. It’s not worth the mental health or your time.

    • @firestarsantos7467
      @firestarsantos7467 Před 7 dny

      Agreed. To be honest even back then I watched Game grumps for the co-host Dan, his life stories and overall postivie attitude most of the time where genguienly enjoyable....but, Arin was just insufferable most of the time and his "comedy" grew old fast.

  • @nahelbeuk
    @nahelbeuk Před 9 dny +26

    To be 100% fair, Korone called Sonic 1 a "Kusoge" (shit game) on the same stream she started being the Sonic ambassador. It was a spur of the moment thing when she died tho and immediately felt bad about it. It was hilarious 🤣

    • @Psyche_TH
      @Psyche_TH Před 9 dny +20

      That's a good point but to keep it fair I do think insulting a game out of frustration when you die in it is different to hating all of the games repeatedly on podcasts, social media accounts, etc.

    • @akiradkcn
      @akiradkcn Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@Psyche_THyeah

    • @nahelbeuk
      @nahelbeuk Před 9 dny +3

      @@Psyche_TH It's nowhere near close. That guy sounds like a jerk, Korone is a sweetheart.

    • @rokudodamaza
      @rokudodamaza Před 9 dny +2

      ​@@nahelbeukMan has always been honest, he loves Sonic, doesn't like most sonic games (liked frontiers), still doesn't know to this day why he became the ambassador and that's that

  • @an-nin-me
    @an-nin-me Před 8 dny +3

    2:58 Starts from here

  • @Kingofcorrect
    @Kingofcorrect Před 8 dny +3

    I nominate PumpkinPotion to be a Sonic Ambassador. She's played every game, has numerous Sonic tattoos, has the Sonic Crocs, can talk about the history of the franchise until the heat death of the universe, and has used art cels from the shows.

    • @bing2869
      @bing2869 Před 8 dny +1

      Korone is a corporate VTuber with leverage and weight to her name, from a marketing perspective it'd be beneficial to have someone like Korone be the ambassador. All respect to Pumpkin Potion but i feel like she isn't as engaging as a majority of the other vtubers (which isn't a good thing considering it seems like all vtubers are trying to compete with eachother or one up one another)

    • @bing2869
      @bing2869 Před 8 dny

      Plus she seems to derive herself off of being a "variety streamer" and mostly doing talks and storytimes

    • @Kingofcorrect
      @Kingofcorrect Před 8 dny +1

      @@bing2869 she's mostly for the over 25 crowd, true.

  • @josephjoestar4978
    @josephjoestar4978 Před 9 dny +25

    Arin Hanson has done massive damage to Sonic and video games as a whole, and we're still recovering to this day.

  • @frannielmartinez
    @frannielmartinez Před 9 dny +9

    Just to point out, this video uses a "This Is How You Don't Play" video of Game Grumps' Sonic Generations walkthrough.