Toon Force, Gag Characters & 4th wall Debunk || Power Scaling part-4
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4th wall is so easy to debunk and so are gag characters. Gag characters can have their physics be changed by author authority manipulation, any outerversal character should beat them. About the 4th wall, even base flowey from undertale breaks that and base flowey is just above regular human level :/. If the 4th wall is as strong as they claim flowey is outerversal, which isn’t true at all.
So the concept is that toon characters are soo broken that scaling with regulars is not fair. Good to know that Goku doesn't solo all of fiction
Goku case is a lot different than say cartoons like Looney Tunes. Goku is always fighting, even when he is breaking physics. And the source of his powers are always explained. So they can properly be used when matching them up to a character outside there verse in a fight. Bugs bunny is literally a comedy character. You can say goku cant kill him cause he comes back after being incinerated. That’s literally bullshit, he comes back because he literally has to for the show to continue because it’s for humor.
@@itsbeyxnd no, he comes back because he’s a toon, lmao what? Even bugs explains this in the Space jam 2 movie, not because the show needs, it does but it’s not because of that, but because he’s a toon character he literally also said they can’t die
@@curryposterizeslewashedjam3588
Your stupid if think toon force is an ability like seriously it's not always working + like the guy says it's just plot thing him talking about that is just 4 wall braking it just humor
@@itsbeyxnddosent matter Goku losses to Deadpool and Bugs bunny
I mean goku never scaled to this to begin with. Gag characters are solely meant for comedy. Regardless of the situation. Or regardless of what was or did or what was going to happen gag characters can never be taken seriously in scaling.
Factual. Saitama fanboys will dislike and are on thier way to comment BS.
Also, Squirrel Girl isn't really unbeatable in marvel. She lost to Dormammu
You can say that again, heck I always lose my braincells whenever Saitamatards try to debate, Accelerator vs Saitama being the most popular one, Accelerator who already tanked multiversal attacks at best and shook the galaxy gets beaten by Saitama just because he is one punch man, according to Saitamatards, honestly
@@Oueenazolatigressgina Saitama tards =Brainless retard I don't say any one retard but Saitama tards they are
@@Oueenazolatigressgina Exactly. I don't mind if Saitama actually showed a feat of like destroying a galaxy or universe by just a punch as Anos did in his Light Novel.
Because that would be a fact.
But he never did and they always use the gimmick of Saitama's character. "He one punch you."
Another parody character yet acceptable character is Takatou Yogiri. He kills everything with Instant Death and he will Instant Kill you. This is fine because Yogiri showed a real feat of killing even unkillable characters including Gods of the Multiverse.
@@TheOverlordEND saitama did destroyed some relam but Idk how big
@@sebgor2319 Until proven the context of what this realm suppose to be, the size, and what dimension. It cannot be used as a comparison.
Ah yes the 3 most wanked feats/abilities in fiction
Deadpool slaps smh....
Awesome
I have to add too regarding the 4th wall.
People seem to confuse Boundless and connected it to "overtaking" their writer or "affecting real-world people."
But again, as you said. This doesn't make any sense and shouldn't be taken seriously and should be judged case by case.
"But (insert character name) break the 4th wall, changing the plot and kill their author thus they are above fiction."
The former half is Plot Manipulation and the second half just doesn't make sense, rather it sounded ridiculous to be used as a feat of Hax or scaling.
What, a character like Chowder broke the 4th wall and told their animator to make more money by car washing so they can have longer episodes.
What about that time when Gumball talks to the audience, that is also 4th wall breaking.
Then so, would this make them boundless? No. Since when the standard of Boundless goes so low that just by breaking the 4th wall they are then Boundless.
Sigh... Alien X fans have also told that he has changed the art style so Alien X is writer level... That is Reality Manipulation.
how about GF Goku? i dont know how to deal with this Goku.
@@mimikobama6886 he s literally just another 4th wall breaker
@@bruhbruh1655 meaning that he actually has no real feats?
@@mimikobama6886 no but him fusing with audience=above fiction is absolute Bs
@@bruhbruh1655 yep the fact that he didnt even show a feat other than defeating super broly
Fax I’ve seen so many characters “entering reality” or “beating the author” when that literally doesn’t add any ap or scaling for that matter. It’s more or less just a joke.
Arale beat the author and still lost to beerus
Lol, giorno slaps then with his piano,cuz meme
Lol Giorno theme is always my fav theme😁😁😁
No nigga
I just wanna ask a question. Why do you think that Zeno is not Low Multiversal? (Because I've seen it from your biggest VSB downplays video). From what I've seen so far his best feat scales to Low Multiversal. Can you answer this please?
He’s easily low complex multiversal
@@MildsandThatYacnope Hyperverse to outerversal
"Because Gags are limited to their universe" is also an arbitrary opinion that provides no proof, it's basically gags apply only in their universe because I said so 🤣👀
There’s no proof it’s wrong either, it’s valid anyways.
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Yeah people use gfg Goku as one example. Cause he interacted with the audience so he is beyond fiction.
He has fused with them not only intract
@@S0.Ahnaf_ So doesnt change anything
@@Mapper8703 so ur saying akuto sai isnt even tree lvl since he is just a human noice
@@S0.Ahnaf_ Theyre different things lmao Because he didnt really fuse with them The movie is only for Entertainment purposes, İts 4D
@@Mapper8703 how are they different he has in author lvl
Saitama stomps Popeye regardless of Spinach powerup.
Thank GOD! You made this video! And that everyone in these comments are actually smart!
Arbitrary opinion, the same arguments can be made for Gag characters, when they're shown defeating characters who defeated the characters who beat them 😑, the authors decide the winner
The argument that Serious Character A > Gag Character B is arbitrary
Since I am pretty sure you can come up with an example of said Gag Character B>Serious Character C
And Serious Character C >Serious Character A
We're using facts of powerscaling 💀...
@@goat3274 you do know power scaling is Arbitrary right? 😂
@@aminebachir3394 is based ofd of facts and pls don't throw out the laugh emoji
Here after my friends actually think popeye can’t lose after the death battle video and me having to tell them they are so fucking wrong
Also toon force/gag characters shall not be scaled/taken seriously.
W debunk + scaling joke characters is like scaling reality.
1. 4th wall breaks = every anime character can do same like this, Also it doesn't make boundless level, as you can see that Goku and Vegeta Who Multiversal level that can do 4th wall breaks, Jotaro wall level but he can do 4th wall breaks, Shirou Mountain Level to Multiversal level can do 4th wall breaks, Najimu Ajimi universal level that can do 4th wall breaks, So 4th wall breaks doesn't make outversal or boundless at all it just Plot Fiction (Talking about connect to real world anime can do that)
2)Dimensional Storage = Possibily weak compare to anime character who can do Dimensional Higher, Beyond, And travel existence. Example D4C Ultimate, Reinhard Heydrich, Hajun, Mercurius, and more anime character
3)Reality Warping = doesn't mean stronger enough to beat Anime Verse, Sorry they are already have this
4)Body Controll = bruhh this one its weak compare to Anime Verse and Anime Demigods who have Mind Controll or body but better cosmology than toon force
5)Plot Manipulation = doesn't make Boundless or Outversal. Like example Novel Dio A Country level but have Plot Manipulation, Goku a universal level but can do Plot Manipulation, Or Archie Sonic a Low Complex Multiversal that can do Plot Manipulation and more. Sorry but this truth that plot manipulation doesn't make even stronger it just a plot
Good work boi
Thanks
The argument about Toon characters can only interact with their universe is not a good statement. Every watched the movies? Bugs Bunny legit applied Cartoon logic in the real world. Tom and Jerry as well. These guys can delete your favorite verse by taking over as author. Even in the Jimmy Neutron and Timmy Turner cross over it didn’t matter that they were in different universes. They still were able
To apply their toon logic.
Bro those anime fanboy think goku can beat anybody when you give theme solid arguments they become salty
That’s not even the Real World, that’s the Real World in HIS cosmology, it’s not the same as our world.
Movies like space jim where buggys bunny needing him from humans not good fits.
You 🤡 need to stop taking rumors as face value
Thats like saying mcu can solo marvel comics 🤡
@@Coldskin1 MCU is not our “world” it’s literally a universe in marvel cosmology. Even 616 isn’t “our” world. Anyways Bugs Bunny has literally taken the pen away from the author and started doing his own thing. Popeye got erased from existence drew himself back and slapped his author for erasing him.
Bugs bunny Being the biggest examples when it comes to Toon force wank People think he’s author level just because of a fourth wall breaking scene of him being a writer
Similar to that Chowder is also wank but not on the level of bugs bunny because of a scene where he ask the VA to afford more budget by making a outdoor car wash
W
Problem with toon force they wank the stronges feat that rarely happen or only happen once through the series. When the character still gets beaten up
Fr, they only use those greatest feats once and stilk gets beaten up by a regular cartoon who does none of those feats
If a character that has toon force,that shown amazing feats (like Popeye). It is stil valid to an argument to bring up his ridiculous feats, like tilting a planets axis. Which contradicts the No limit fallacy. Let's take Saitama vs Popeye for example.) It is still valid for Popeye to win, because he has more feats than Saitama.
Prove me if im wrong
Saitama has much better feats now and he has toon force
@@warrior1563You are not saying anything
True
Video suggestion: Ren Fuji vs the Scarlet King *(Shinza Bansho vs SCP Mythos)*
Ren Fuji wins easily
Masadaverse cosmology is close to SCP
@@ranijal9543 Not close It's above
Idk who would win but I'm with Ren
@@probzotaku Ren Fuji with 90 Taikyoku is just overpowered for Scarlet King ,not to mental he has Marie
Can you guys answer my one question how akuto sai got debunked to multy solar system level?
Cosmology ans recently author debunk
The cosmology thing wasn't solar system and the author debunk isn't confirm yet
Does that mean toon force is fodder and any fictional non toon or toon character can beat?
goku and other serious character can solo the cartoon and toon force verse and toon force as a whole,
goku earned his power
he struggled
he suffered
he trained
a cartoon charatcer like spongebob or bugs bunny didn't earn shit, he did not struggle, he did not suffer, he had a stupid cartoon gag help him do the work for him and he and all cartoons did not train, the are handed the win to them
goku should kill must of if bot all cartoons easy because his strength is real, toon force isn't, it is a dumb, weak excuse to make cartoon character seem op and should only be used to make us laugh, using it in a vs show or s serious fight is a "let me win please" card, what is the poit of feeats and strengths and all the other stuff if your character wins by default?
Stop embarrassing yourself what about Popeye he beat his own animator get erased to nothingness and comback by reforming himself treated his own animator to give him spinach yeah continue your 🧢
@@reduanetibaoui8610geez try not to get salty pal
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 😂 you goku wanker how think goku solo toonforce all cartoon characters one shoot goku every powerscaler know this you don’t have to scal toon force because they are beyond logic
@@reduanetibaoui8610 go breath, in and out
calm your nerves and come back when you're less salty
Dummy thinks Bugs Bunny never “struggled”. This is why people think power scalers are goofy.
About damn time someone debunks this stupid "cartoon character wins" logic
Cry
Cry about it jessiel
@@BluAmiTieX64YT Says the person who told me to cry, but ok if you say so 👍🏻
@cartooncatisthebest Imagine replying to a year old comment, couldn’t be me
One problem i have, SG lost to dormamu, she can't solo marvel.
Yes and Arale can't beat Beerus. But gag fights will be meaningless
@@probzotaku yes
These marvel tards think some girl wearing squirrels outfit can solo verse like Smt smh lol
Next video who is stronger lucifer or beyonder ( post retcon )
Lucifer
@@probzotaku bro i said to make video not to tell who is strong 😅😅😅
Beyonder maybe
@@Scar9122 nope Lucifer stomp
Oh ok
IIRC Platonic Concepts
What about luffy from one piece gear 5th?
He has toonforce limited to himself and oda is definitely not going to make him unbeatable after all we do need him to beat akainu and black beard and oda every time does a fight luffy gets almost killed like ever time he definitely can change things to rubber but let's see when the new chapter comes
But W Video 10/10
How powerful is Anos Voldigoad from The Misfit of the Demon King Academy?
Could he solo the Nasuverse and scale to Demonbane and Tenchi Muyo powerhouses?
Hyperversal for now
Hypervesal currently with the Silver Sea statement...Anos is far above Rimuru now... The Cosmology upgraded too
He got debunked to multiversal +
@@yoriichitsugukuni5194 Wait how anos got debunk into Hyperversal? I haven't heard that before.
Hi probz
Hi! Thanks for watching!!!
Squirrel girl doesn't solos Marvel verse lol he only defeat thanos clone
I don't think squirrel girl beats toaa neither
@@bruhbruh1655 squirrel girl doesn't even reach celestials level and base thanos is not very powerful he is still weaker than celestials lol
Pataphysics vs Cartoon physics
Obviously, Pataphysics
Petaphysics
doraemon still solos fiction
Liked deathbattle popeye toonfore vs saitama
1:20 bruh why cry say l hope people Will remove 4th wall feats in debate bruh 4th wall kind funny roasting everything time character know about you what you doing now hehehe kind funny know us we are doing something know
Saying gag only limited to his verse is like omnipotence in only in hese verse Goku can go ssj only in his verse
But atleast Omnipotent can fight with another verse's characters
LMAO Bruh😂😂😂
There was no toon force debunk here, lmao U simply cannot perm kill a toon force character, that would contradict the very definition of toon force character
Bro literally coping because of toon force
It dose not exist lil bro it's for kids deal with it
@@saadsami8860Toonforce doesn’t exist? Then how tf does SpongeBob do the things he does? You sound dumb as hell Fr lmao
0:59 this one is cap, Saitama is a gag character, stated by writers of one punch man itself (murata and one)
Nope all they said was that they dream to be a gag artist/author but not actually stating they opm was a gag manga
Goku can't t even destroy 12 universes and 12 universes is a ridiculous number of universes in the multiverse scale, every multiversal character can easyli destroy just 12 universes with no enfort
Pls heart
Also toon force characters can die
But still bugs bunny op
Yes but he will be universal with high ball
@@probzotaku stop the cap bugs bunny universal are you joking you teling me goku can beat bugs bunny lmao you so delusional
@@reduanetibaoui8610 nope bugs bunny stomp
@@fajar_0899 that what I said to the guy above me bugs bunny is beyond any anime character toonforce is beyond logical thing
@@reduanetibaoui8610 lol you got mad
Tell me how drip Goku beat bully
Idk, ask to other people who scales meme but don't ask me stupid questions like memeverse
Bruh few caps
Arale is not supperior to gods of distruction like beerus it's even proved hence your video is debunked
Memes are stronger
No, they only exist in the mind of internet people and not powers that the author gives them, and the jokes are pretty old and aren't even funny to be honest
@@goat3274 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Toon force is just wank
How bout gf Goku? can someone help me
Idk his level but don't include his 4th wall feats
@@probzotaku hes Surely boundless
@@probzotaku no more hu tao? lol.
@@tslegendery5861 nowhere
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The people in this comment section saying you’re wrong can’t except the fact that you’re right
Pawer scalers after literally wasting their time because kid shows characters and saying they have toon force
Dude really, just dragon balo fanboys has problems with toon force because it shows that Goku is not invencible, something that the Manga itself show multiple times, actually, he is very very weak in multiverse scale characters he has only 12 universes in his reality and this a ridiculous number of universes in multiverse scale
What is your point exactly?
BTW No Limits fallacy aint a real thing
No arale cannot she gets six folded by beerus.
She still beat him by poop in the rice cooker 🍚🌾💩
@@aminebachir3394 Beerus tapped the floor and her head came off, remember that.
@@aminebachir3394she literally lost to him in the show