Windows of Time: From the Volga to the Platte Germans from Russia in Greeley
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- Many Germans moved to Russia in the 18th and 19th centuries, then came to the United States for opportunity for a better life. Many came to Colorado, particularly to Greeley to work in the sugar beet fields and then on to other occupations. View this edition including interviews and many historic photos of Germans from Russia and their ancestors. Learn about their experiences coming to the US and after their arrival in Colorado, their work ethic, education, religion, culture and traditions, their lives during the World Wars, the Sunrise Park neighborhood where they lived in Greeley and their legacy which endures today.
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My great great grandparents Heinrich and Batherine Ruppel were from the Volga region and migrated to Oklahoma and some of their offspring moved to Wisconsin in the early 1900's.
My Great grandfather immigrated from Koehler, Saratov, Russia in 1912. They settled in North Kansas, with one daughter going to Colorado and the other to Ohio. My grandfather, the youngest, married in Kansas and later follow his sister and her husband to Ohio.
in colorado did they settle in denver?
My great grandfather bought his family to Lincoln's south Russen Bottoms in 1892. A thriving community just south of the downtown. The group from Frank Russia were upset that farmer in the States lived alone on their own farms instead of living in the village and going out to their land. As a group they chose to live in Lincoln during the winter and in the early spring pack up and take the Burlington RR to Greely to work the beets and in the late fall after harvest was completed return to their homes in the bottoms. Park elementary school had a special schedule for the children. In one school year they would get one semester of education. That meant that a child took two years to complete on grade. In Russia the women were not isolated they enjoyed their afternoon gathering for Tea and quilting. Eventually some of the families bought land along the Platte across Nebraska and into Colorado. Often one brother would choose to farm in the Greely area or western Nebraska near Scotts Bluff. While another brother or sister found a year around job in Lincoln. Now there are Sitzmans and my grandmothers family the Libsacks/Libsocks from Lincoln to Colorado to western Oklahoma to eastern Montana. In the 1920's my father went to Greely to work beets. On a Saturday night he went to main street and saw a small group of guys his age standing on a street corner, He said something to them in English, and they snubbed him. He replied to them German: " Sorry I thought you were Russen"s All of a sudden, he had a new group of friends and an apology.
How fun to stumble upon this, Adolf Lesser played at my Grandparents Hart Wedding. They always listened to Dutch Hop. They lived in Berthoud but my Great Uncle Dave Hart lived in Greeley.
Both sides of my family are from the Volga immigrating to Oklahoma and Wisconsin during the 1920s. They often spoke of why they left their beloved Russia, was because of military requirements. My grandfather served in the army, never wanting his children to serve, was his decision to leave. My father's family came from the village of Frank. Going from New York to Oklahoma eventually moving to Wisconsin. Working on farms for generations, my father decided to leave Wisconsin in the 50s, becoming very successful in the technical side of motion picture processing technology. Leaving behind the German attitude of the times.
Sandra Natali, I was born and grew up as a Volga German in Russia and my grandparents lived in Frank from 1960s through the late 1990s when we immigrated to Germany. Since then, I've visited the village of Frank many times to learn more about our people's history and I have some videos re Frank on my CZcams channel. My own "ancestral" village is Seewald, which was about 25 miles south of Frank. Unfortunately, Seewald no longer exists but Frank does and it still has many old VG family homes - most of them are well over 100-years old.
My ancestors came to the US in 1907 and 08 Balzer and Dinkel but also others as marriages occurred. There is some of your information I am curious about. I also had family that came in 1921 but this was because Trotsky’s red army was conscripting for the Bolsheviks. The imperial army ceased to exist in March 2 1917. Bolsheviks were not Russians. True Russian identity is Germanic norse viking. The threats by Bolsheviks terrorized Russians into submission and eventually created orphans all to be trained as communists. It is my conclusion that WWII was the Red communist soldiers created out of this Lenin policy. Russian soldiers in WWI experienced betrayal by Bolshevik insurgency into the Imperial Army. These details must be known to better understand the differences between Russian and soviet.
@@petrokrasnov2967Дикая Чушь. Краснов, Шкура и подоб. стали гитлеровцами, насколько я помню. В отличие от Деникина, оставшегося Русским. Большевики тоже были русскими рыцарями, как удостоверил Шульгин.
The Russian army has never changed. From stories coming out of the war in Ukraine, Russian soldiers are still badly treated. I wonder if we are related, both my grandparents are from Frank.
my great grandma was from germany i was born in greeley colorado and i always remembered my great grandma having a german accent and she spoke german but i just found out with ancestry app that she was born in russia i was so confused
Don’t forget about Argentina!!
There are lot of Volga Germans who went to South America!!!
And Brazil!
I had great grandparents that were Volga German and as a young child I was confused not knowing yet the history of why they were from Russia (Ukraine) but spoke German.
i’m from greeley and same my great grandma spoke german but she was from born in odessa ukraine
@@zarz3049 My great grandparents escaped because of the czar and went to Canada/North Dakota. From my understanding the ones that remained were heavily persecuted under Stalin even though many became communists and sent to Gulags or deported to eastern Germany because of their ancestry even though the only thing about them that was German was their language and traditions, not their politics.
@@nialmurray2568 dang that’s crazy. i’m kind of sad though because i want to claim german citizenship through ancestry however since they were born in ukraine i dont know now haha
@@nialmurray2568 i’m sorry but I honestly doubt they left because of the Tsar! I suspect if they came between 1905 and 1907 they saw what was taking place with the rising insurgency of Bolshevism coming onto the scene which was a sponsored revolution by the U.S. gov and New York bankers who sponsored these early communists originally called social democrats until 1903 when they split the party and changed the names to Bolshevik and Menshevik. During WWI Bolshevik revolutionaries among the imperial army would sabotage Russian success and organize failures in arms resupplies such as wrong sized ammunition for rifles, etc. Then beginning in 1918 Lenin’s Red terror was decreed and persecution in colonies increased drastically as the civil war breaks out. To be blunt, the tsar was not the enemy of colonists but Bolshevism was. This anti tsar narrative is communist induced and has continued to distort our history to get along with those holding powers. Only one condition would be threatened by imperial secret police (Okhrana), revolutionary factions as I described earlier. Take care!
@@zarz3049 I wouldn’t be so eager about claiming that German heritage. That country has degenerated and they are so socialist it’s sickening. Those that try to resist their communism end up in jail! Most people don’t understand that we’ve been brainwashed since children Hitler was trying to stop the spread of communism into Europe and I can say without a doubt the United States the UK and of course the Soviet union under Bolshevism made sure that it could spread and it has come to the United States with a vengeance, although it been here at the beginning when it took out Russia when our ancestors were relatively safe. It was World War I that ushered in Bolshevism however Bolshevism was created earlier and the first revolution that took place was in 1905 to about 1907 which also includes a Russo Japanese war but all of these things fit together! There were American Banker communists going to Japan to speak with Russian prisoners of war back at that time recruiting them for these revolutionary forces and they claim there were some 50,000 of them all! It has since the whole world has gone mad I prefer my Russian heritage and I do not call myself a German from Russia I call myself a Russian German. My father taught me years ago as a child and a young adult young teenager that I was a Kraut and he made sure to remind me of that but what I’ve learned sense is that the Russian is just as much a Kraut as the German is because the Russian is a Germanic Viking that’s the origins, that’s where that name comes from Rus, it means men who row. Those who hate Germans do everything possible to destroy any culture and traditions associated to them it’s just a fact I can’t help it I’m just the messenger and that’s what we live with today but people like us need to understand this so at least we know who we’re dealing with and how to fight back it takes time to learn how to fight back but I’ve learned the easiest way is in their face when fighting back!
Good to hear some Volga rep
1:23 AM 11/10/2021 My adoption dads side of family is Herrman. My adoption moms side is Karst. Both are Volga German but I think Karst is Austrian? Im pretty sure both families migrated from Russia through current day Poland (Prussia to me). Volga Germans are Prussia to me. Poland + Russia = Prussia My adoption dad side of family still spoke some old accent or dialect of German and some on my adoption moms side. I was adopted born in West Samoa the real Samoa (German Samoa).
Both sides of my father and mother's family were Volga Germans, Frank was one of the villages but there were others. They all settled in northern Colorado and many families were related and/or knew each other from the old country. The families were Naeb & Kammerzell on my father's side and Wagner and Shank on my mom's side. The Naeb's (great grandparents & kids) came in through Galveston TX from Bremen in 1914. To my knowledge we are the only "Naeb" family in the US, as our name was N - A with an umlaut - B (Nab) in Russia but in Galveston they added an E behind the umlauted letter which was common practice. It is my understanding that in New York or Baltimore they did not do this so if I had relatives who came through there, their names are likely Nab. I see a lot of Nab's when researching but none have ever responded to my requests. I miss the dutch hops and the family connectedness, as all my relatives have spread all over now, very few left in Colorado.
Im related to Kamerzell, too. Now we live in Germany.
Hello Elli Melli, would you mind connecting as I am trying to gather more info on my family. I also need to connect with my Kammerzell relatives in the US to catch back up. If I may ask where are you from originally? Thanks Jacob
@@JBean_COCR Hello,
the biggest part of my family is Volga-German. In the 90's wie immigrated from the northern Kaukasus to Germany. I can recommend you an Ancestry DNA-Test. I didnt knew much about my family history before. Due to the test, i can see my relatives all over the world. Most of them in the US. ;-)
My Grandfolks all from Frank
Danke.....Sehr gut. Was ist mit der anderen Kirche geschehen. Steht sie noch?
My grandpa Schaub came from Frank Russia. Conrad Schaub came into America from Texas and settled in Grand Island, Nebraska. Then moved to California. The Schaub’s (9 children and parents) migrated to Southern California after WW2.
Cathy, I grew up as a Volga German in Russia and my grandparents lived in Frank from 1960s through the late 1990s when we immigrated to Germany. Since then, I've visited the village of Frank many times to learn more about our people's history and I have some videos re Frank on my CZcams channel. My own "ancestral" village is Seewald, which was about 25 miles south of Frank.
There was a bunch who moved to Denver area of Globeville.
The Russian German immigrants were hard working people. They came to U.S. not asking or expecting anything but an opportunity to be free and opportunity to work the land and provide for themselves
My family was from Messer and Huck, they moved to Oklahoma and later to Saskatchewan where I reside. Heidel.