I have used old-style painting and sketching plugins for several years to "rescue" images that are technically challenged (usually the subject is too out of focus). This has produced on-the-wall images of some of my long deceased dogs when the images that best captured their character were technically poor. Partially revealing underlying layers (30-50%) often helps eyes or teeth.
Thanks Brian. I love the painterly effect you created in photos. Sometimes we see too much details in the pictures. Your technique seem to be simple. You have a way to simplify things without cutting corners.
You can also use a black and white version of the "oil painting" and filters to generate more dimensional looking texture effects that are precise to your image.
This is really cool Brian. I've done a handful of photos where I've tried to make them look like paintings and I'm usually happy with the results. I hadn't really thought about how I was going to use AI, but this looks like a really fun way to do it. Thanks for the video.
Yeah, I’ve mostly been using AI to create entirely new works or adding things to existing photos. This capability of converting photos to other mediums is something I hadn’t considered until recently.
I generally stop watching when using channels are mentioned, but I'm glad i continued watching! This vid was packed with terrific information on using GF to turn photos into paintings. I'll have to watch again and make notes😊.
I'm glad you stuck around too, Melody! I tend to avoid making videos that require overly complex editing steps. That's not to say that editing channels aren't important - They are, and it's super powerful. But there are other CZcamsrs who do a much better job at covering such techniques, so I'll leave it to them. :)
Thanks, Brian! This is why I am using a Fujifilm with its built in film settings and I always love creating a work of art whenever I come across an image that screams "Put me on canvas!"
Oh, that's a great point. Fujifilm color profiles would do wonders when pairing with this form of Generative Fill! Thanks for sharing, my fellow soldier for Christ.
I experimented with percentage fills ranging from 5% to 50% and found that Generative Fill produces very different results at each setting. Very interesting. Thanks for this video. I think I'll subscribe!
After watching your video, I gave this a go with mixed results. It doesn't work well with people and does not have much control over the brush style. I did try backing off the opacity and using a mask to tune it a bit. The Oil Paint filter in PS is superior at this point, but I can see the potential.
Yeah, this is still very much a “tech preview,” and I expect that it’ll continue to improve. I never used the oil paint filter, though. Definitely will give it a shot.
This was very cool! I would use PGF to add an artistic effect or favorite artist technique for fun. However, I love photography and still like the true photograph with only basic editing like exposure, texture, vibrance, etc. After looking at so many composites or painted photos with amazing edits, it's nice to see a real photo.
AMAZING find. Wow. Since the holidays, have a new MBP Max machine, been trying many local AI models to do image2image just to get this effect... and failing miserably. Here you did it in two steps. I still and processing why it works this way. Guessing 30% gray in brightness (in the HSB section, not blue, btw)... is the same as telling Stable Diffusion, or another model, use 70% of the base image as input... but, without needing to analyze it and cross your fingers for the insane number of technical settings. Amazing, amazing find.
Interesting video. I had a quick play with the idea. Your obvious problem is the 1024 px generating limit. I made a copy of the image in a new window. I reduced the image to 1024 px along the longest edge - then ran the generative fill. I used the super zoom filter to enlarge this smaller image - back to approx the original size in a new doc. I dragged the super-zoomed image back to the original and adjusted the size to match. I then compared this with a generated oil paint image from the original. I think it looks better - but it's difficult to compare because PS never generates the same image twice. If you have the time give it a do and let us know what you think.
Hi Brian, thanks so much for doing this. I wouldn't have guessed to try this. I just took a flower photo, followed your instruction for oil painting and got a result I really like on the first try. Now it doesn't exactly look like an oil painting but what it did I really like. Didn't bother to do the texture bit yet. So yes I will unabashedly use this on some photos. - tim
My pleasure, Tim! It really is hit-or-miss. That's why I had a version of each photo already saved for the video. It's too big of a gamble to hope that it'll deliver a good quality result when you're filming. But, I usually end up getting a result that I like after 2-3 generate attempts.
Great tutorial! Do you know if there’s a way (or are plans) for this tool to show the adjustments made to achieve the look (much like presets in L/r and Camera Raw)? A 1-click tool is great, but to see and learn the process would be invaluable. Cheers!
Great find! Thanks for sharing. I had an initial problem but solved it by inverting the mask. You'll get more (interesting) results by using the different (layer) blending modes and also create multiple media layers and blend them. Also try these prompts: Oil painting, watercolor painting, acrylic painting, pastel painting, digital painting, ink wash painting, spray painting, Fresco secco painting, gouache painting , Enamel painting, tempera painting, sand painting. Cheers!
@@brianmatiash Yes. I'm working with it now. One action works for both portrait & landscape. Of course if you want to change the style you need to type it in after the first gen(s) or you could do a separate action for each style.
Thank you for showing this technique. I have been looking for a way to transform my photos to look more like paintings for some time. It will be fun to generate nice images. But I think I'm going to wait for the finished version of Ps.
You're welcome! And it's not a bad idea to wait for Generative Fill to make it to the public version of PS. It'll hopefully be even better by then. I suspect we'll see it released this Oct, around when Adobe has their Max conference.
Hi Brian! Thanks for the great video! I have tried your method and another very similar method for creating a fill mask and running a watercolor prompt from there - trouble is, the generative layer seems to create an entirely seperate layer, not grabbing the original image, and I end up with a similar result as your "random oil painitns" results. I've tried this meticulously step by step soooo many times but no luck. Am I missing something? Thank you again :)
This is amazing! The only thing to be aware of is the resolution constraint that generative fill has. The new content it generates is limited to 1024 px on the longest side. So if your original image is high resolution and you use generative fill on the whole thing the quality will go down. Hopefully Adobe fixes this soon.
Yup, that's a good reminder and I meant to bring that up when I zoomed in on the canvas texture of the oil painting example. I forgot to bring it up because I was so impressed with the quality of the canvas texture, but you can see the resolution drop when zooming in. Thanks for the reminder! And, yes, I hope Adobe ups the max resolution when it takes it out of beta.
I am able to save my painted ai photo to the desktop and to LR but not to Lightroom Classic. I changed the version in LRC to 2024 before proceeding with Generative Ai in Photoshop. Is there a reason as to why I'm not able to save to LRC since PS is not in beta version currently? Great video and love your easy to understand video.
great video, appreciate the slow moves and slower speed of speech, not being a native ps user coming from psp its so hard to get going. im using that ai to fix photos and yer the typing feels like a joke at times like it doesn't matter, like its catching a single word only so finding ways atm to twist it to do what you want is important
Ansel Adams spent more time in the darkroom than he did actually taking photos. Can you imagine the smile on Adams’ face looking at Photoshop’s latest “darkroom” endeavor? One word: WOW!
Exactly! I keep telling people this. For some reason, people seem to think that just because Ansel wasn’t alive when this technology was available, he wouldn’t give it a shot. I firmly believe that he’d love to give it a whirl and would probably get some enjoyment out of it. It’s not like anyone is saying that we should use this to replace the act of taking photos or creating oil paintings. It’s just a cool tech to experiment with.
I love the way the new AI toolkit in Photoshop opens up the creative potential of the artist. Many of us have become photographer/artist. We don’t have to be bound by being a photographer/journalist.
nice review. My preference will be always Topaz impression. we also find some interesting photoshop actions from envato artixty,... but not as realistic as Topaz I think either for oild painting, watercolor, sketches,...
Brian, Tried the watercolor today but found that initially when I tried to open the filter gallery it did not work until I changed the image mode to 8bit then it worked. Simple process. I am still learning what I can do with generative fill...this is amazing. I am experimenting with what modifiers I can use to make the watercolor more detailed. Have you found anything that works. I tried highly detailed and it did not seem to make a difference.
Hi! Wondering if you could comment if things have changed with the most recent Photoshop Beta updates as of June 15, 2024. I'm following all the steps here. No matter the photo, when I put in a prompt I'm getting a digital mix of blues and a black frame. (not anything like the incorrect examples you show at the beginning of the video) I've watched it several times. Do I have something wrong in my settings or has something change with how the application works with updates? Thank you!
I have both the regular Adobe Photoshop 2023 and the Beta loaded into my computer. When I go to external editing, I'm only showing the PS 2023 and not the Beta in the drop down. I have a windows machine.
@@royceahr I noticed that at first. But now LR doesn't even recognize Beta when I bring Beta up first. If you have the right handshake, please describe how you are doing the secret handshake!
Hi, would it be possible to trace a photo on iOS-ie, iPhone-version of the Photoshop and turn it into an impressionistic watercolour image somehow or not, please? Thank you kindly. Stay safe always.
Brian, Enjoyed the video. But when you zoomed in after the canvas texture was applied, one can see that the canvas texture is applied OVER the brush strokes. Wouldn't it be better to apply the canvas texture BEFORE generating the painting effect? Same for watercolor papers, etc.
Yeah, that is a compromise for sure. In my tests where I applied the texture canvas before using Generative Fill, it pretty much obliterated any trace of it. So, the result is somewhat moot in my book.
I know that the beta version of generative fill maxes out at 1024x1024. Do the paintings reflect this? I noticed that when you zoomed in the image looked good.
Yeah, I believe that resolution limit applies to any generative fill. You can see the resolution fall apart a bit when I zoom in to see the canvas texture, but it’s not remotely noticeable at fit-to-screen view. Still, I wouldn’t rely on it if you intend to make a large-scale print…. At least not until Adobe ups the output resolution (which will hopefully happen in the future).
Your process for alternatively opening PS versus PS Beta from Lightroom only works on a Mac, not Windows. The workaround on Windows is to "pre-open" PS or PS Beta then move the image from Lightroom,
Hello! I just updated PS Beta and now this doesn't work for me. Any ideas on what to do to get it back? It just makes the random painting, even when the transparent selection is made.
Same here… maybe need to install an older version of beta if that’s possible? I’ve seen so many videos using this technique, but I can’t get it to work.
There is one aspect to all of this and that is when someone does this but then DOES NOT 'put the ingredients on the box' and then tries to claim to be a brilliant physical painter artist. So it is an ethical thing. All someone needs to do is put 'Digitally Created Art'. The 'client' can go and decide to buy or not after than - this is irrelevant whether you are actually selling or not. It is only about integrity and honesty. It will not be long before we start hearing of fairies at the bottom of the garden being claimed as true! Yup it really has been happening for many many years... there is nought thaas new but the method. Very good video.
I would never have known this was possible if I hadn't watched this video. Not sure how much I'll use it, but it's a fun tool to have in the box. One of my favorite things to do with GF is to start with a completely blank canvas, select all and generate with no prompt. It's interesting what it can come up with. I've gotten a few really weird things, but sometimes it's actually fairly realistic looking. Mainly just landscapes, but had a cityscape and a few more detail oriented images too.
Turning photos into paintings using GF has becoming addicting for me because I know that my mom will love some of these painting conversions. So, it has become sort of a challenge for me to find photos that will look great as oil or watercolor paintings. The next step will be to see how they look when I print them, especially with the canvas texture filter applied. And I’m with you, sometimes I just love starting with a blank canvas and letting GF do it’s things. It still has room to improve, but we’re in Wild West territory now.
Great video, however the technique works in your images because it was in an area that the AI does not have an issue with. I tried it on an image with a person in it and the despite multiple tries could not get a usable render.
Yeah, I’ve seen reports of others trying with portrait photos and the results weren’t very good. I don’t involve myself with portrait work, which is why I didn’t cover it in the video.
Are there any copyright type issues for using Adobe’s AI software to create images that you sell? Does Adobe own the image if it was AI generated, even from your original work? Just something to think about. The video was good.
Great video Brian! I have followed your instructions step by step on one of my photos, but when I click on the "filter" drop down, "Filter gallery" is not highlighted. what am I doing wrong? thank you!
Hey Chris. Did you send your image to PS via Lightroom? For some reason, I don't think that Filter Gallery is available via that workflow. If that's the case, do me a favor and export the image to your desktop, open it directly in PS, and see if Filter Gallery is available.
@@brianmatiash Yes, I sent the image over to PS from Lightroom. I will try your recommendation and let you know if it worked. Thanks for your quick reply!
Brian, Chris. i had same problem & yes, went from LR to PS - filter gallery not available. OK now, selecting image in PS Beta, goes to filter gallery. thanks.
I don't have anything against AI in editing, I like noise reduction in Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but if image is simply too noisy it can be weird, bendy wavy look. But if not crazy noisy it works superbly without changing the shapes of the object. So if using making reviews of stuff, posting pics, you need to shoot a pic not too noisy, if using AI de noise, or not use it. Just make sure you don't make the product look worse than it actually is, just removing the noise nothing else. Noisier it is, harder it is to fix. So make sure to use right settings in camera.
It worked, but the painting strokes were so big it destroyed the picture. I tried fine brush etc, but to no avail. I re generated it a lot but always it was too big a stroke patterns unlike your picture.
Thanks a lot, great idea but I'm having a problem. I'm selecting 30% with the color picker and when I turn off quick mask by clicking on the icon in the toolbar , I still see the marching ants around the image which I believe means that more than 30% are selected. Then when I do the generative fill, my painting is 100% opaque, covers up the whole image like when you started in the video. I think I can remedy it by "alt-clicking" to turn off quick mask... I then still have to play around with the layer opacity in the layers box. I'm not sure what's going on.... thanks
@@brianmatiash thanks Brian, I think I solved it. I was throwing in an extra step somewhere of select all. It works well if you stick with the sequence. I also play around with the opacity. painting over the mask etc FYI, something I haven't seen yet on youtube, I'm using AI Gen to make picture frames, by following the "extend background " selections and typing "antique picture frame" etc...... you might want to try a video. tx again
@@turkrich That's an awesome idea! I'll definitely play around with expanding the canvas to serve as an art frame. Thank you for sharing that great idea!
Brian, I don't know why but I get the same issue with seeing the "marching ants" when I deselect the layer with the quick mask and I have to hit "invert selection" to get the painting that's not totally opaque.....not sure what is happening??? any idea??? I am still working on your process though!! THANKA@@brianmatiash
Hi Brian, thanks for this. It's awesome for landscape but not good for people or portraits because it is changing the appearance of the person. Can you have new video for that? thanks
FYI -- Lightroom > Preferences > External Editing > select Photoshop version feature doesn't work (or exist) in Windows as of LrC 12.4. It may (probably will) work in later versions.
Just a quick comment, it's not 30% on the blue channel but rather 30% on the brightness channel (I don't think it allows you to generate just blue/red/green)
Right, I already mentioned it in another comment that I was looking at the RGB values when I spoke. It’s an honest mistake. And if you prefer Corel Painter, then have a blast with it. I use PS and it has suited me just fine all these years.
Glad you enjoyed the vid and excellent question. I was going to cover that in the video and totally forgot to. In my experiments, 30% was the sweet spot for Generative Fill to properly apply the effect to the entire photo. In situations where I tried 50%, for example, Generative Fill didn't factor in the image at all and just generated art from nothing (as it did when I just clicked "Select All" and ran it. 30% has never failed me in all of my attempts, so that's why I went with it.
Sweet! I hope you are happy with the results. I'm not gonna lie - it's kind of addicting. I also will do some more research to see why 30% seems to be the magic number for the quick mask mode selection.
Looks like I need to play with this! You do however make the same slip of the tongue a couple of times - when creating the 30% mask I believe that B stands for brightness, not blue. (H = hue. S = saturation. B = brightness.)
*Would you use Photoshop Generative Fill to convert your photos into alternative art mediums?*
Totally.
yes, definately I'll use for creative, art images of my captures
I have used old-style painting and sketching plugins for several years to "rescue" images that are technically challenged (usually the subject is too out of focus). This has produced on-the-wall images of some of my long deceased dogs when the images that best captured their character were technically poor. Partially revealing underlying layers (30-50%) often helps eyes or teeth.
Yes.
Beauty is on the ye of the beholder. Art is a foe of expresión.
Thanks Brian. I love the painterly effect you created in photos. Sometimes we see too much details in the pictures. Your technique seem to be simple. You have a way to simplify things without cutting corners.
As always great video, thinking outside the box. Great ideas.
You can also use a black and white version of the "oil painting" and filters to generate more dimensional looking texture effects that are precise to your image.
I love this. Thanks fir sharing.
That's genious... At first I thaught it's to much talking for my taste, but then you really delivered... Thx mate!
Awesome. Thanks a lot. Plenty of fun ahead.
This is really cool Brian. I've done a handful of photos where I've tried to make them look like paintings and I'm usually happy with the results. I hadn't really thought about how I was going to use AI, but this looks like a really fun way to do it. Thanks for the video.
Yeah, I’ve mostly been using AI to create entirely new works or adding things to existing photos. This capability of converting photos to other mediums is something I hadn’t considered until recently.
Oh my god! It worked! And so easy and so understandable to follow! Thank you so much for your video ❤ so enjoying results 😍
You’re most welcome!
Great tutorial. Also, nice to come across you and your teaching again.
Thanks, Steve! Great to hear from you, too.
Thank you! The other ways of doing this were not working for me, but this worked and is much simpler!
My pleasure! I’m glad that the video helped!
I generally stop watching when using channels are mentioned, but I'm glad i continued watching! This vid was packed with terrific information on using GF to turn photos into paintings. I'll have to watch again and make notes😊.
I'm glad you stuck around too, Melody! I tend to avoid making videos that require overly complex editing steps. That's not to say that editing channels aren't important - They are, and it's super powerful. But there are other CZcamsrs who do a much better job at covering such techniques, so I'll leave it to them. :)
Thanks, Brian! This is why I am using a Fujifilm with its built in film settings and I always love creating a work of art whenever I come across an image that screams "Put me on canvas!"
Oh, that's a great point. Fujifilm color profiles would do wonders when pairing with this form of Generative Fill! Thanks for sharing, my fellow soldier for Christ.
Brian, this is one of the best ways to use the G.F. I hadn't yet learned about it either. THANK YOU so much
This is one of the COOLEST ways to use the Generative Fill... I hadn't yet learned about it either. THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
You're most welcome, Laura! So glad you enjoyed the vid!
I experimented with percentage fills ranging from 5% to 50% and found that Generative Fill produces very different results at each setting. Very interesting. Thanks for this video. I think I'll subscribe!
Yeah, I experimented with several values too and found that 30% was the sweet spot
After watching your video, I gave this a go with mixed results. It doesn't work well with people and does not have much control over the brush style. I did try backing off the opacity and using a mask to tune it a bit. The Oil Paint filter in PS is superior at this point, but I can see the potential.
Yeah, this is still very much a “tech preview,” and I expect that it’ll continue to improve. I never used the oil paint filter, though. Definitely will give it a shot.
Brian, Great video thanks for sharing your ideas. very impressive
My pleasure!
This was very cool! I would use PGF to add an artistic effect or favorite artist technique for fun. However, I love photography and still like the true photograph with only basic editing like exposure, texture, vibrance, etc. After looking at so many composites or painted photos with amazing edits, it's nice to see a real photo.
thank u brian, I tried various commands and the "poly art vector" turned out to be very good
Great effects, thanks.
AMAZING find. Wow. Since the holidays, have a new MBP Max machine, been trying many local AI models to do image2image just to get this effect... and failing miserably. Here you did it in two steps. I still and processing why it works this way. Guessing 30% gray in brightness (in the HSB section, not blue, btw)... is the same as telling Stable Diffusion, or another model, use 70% of the base image as input... but, without needing to analyze it and cross your fingers for the insane number of technical settings. Amazing, amazing find.
Great video, many thanks
I used opacity to lower effect and it looks pretty good!
Interesting video. I had a quick play with the idea.
Your obvious problem is the 1024 px generating limit.
I made a copy of the image in a new window.
I reduced the image to 1024 px along the longest edge - then ran the generative fill.
I used the super zoom filter to enlarge this smaller image - back to approx the original size in a new doc.
I dragged the super-zoomed image back to the original and adjusted the size to match.
I then compared this with a generated oil paint image from the original.
I think it looks better - but it's difficult to compare because PS never generates the same image twice.
If you have the time give it a do and let us know what you think.
Thank you, just what I was wanting to do!
Glad I could help! Let me know how you like it.
Great tips. I love this.Thanks
You are welcome!
Hi Brian, thanks so much for doing this. I wouldn't have guessed to try this. I just took a flower photo, followed your instruction for oil painting and got a result I really like on the first try. Now it doesn't exactly look like an oil painting but what it did I really like. Didn't bother to do the texture bit yet. So yes I will unabashedly use this on some photos. - tim
My pleasure, Tim! It really is hit-or-miss. That's why I had a version of each photo already saved for the video. It's too big of a gamble to hope that it'll deliver a good quality result when you're filming. But, I usually end up getting a result that I like after 2-3 generate attempts.
Great tutorial! Do you know if there’s a way (or are plans) for this tool to show the adjustments made to achieve the look (much like presets in L/r and Camera Raw)? A 1-click tool is great, but to see and learn the process would be invaluable. Cheers!
It's amazing sir 🙏🙏 Thanks
Great find! Thanks for sharing. I had an initial problem but solved it by inverting the mask. You'll get more (interesting) results by using the different (layer) blending modes and also create multiple media layers and blend them. Also try these prompts: Oil painting, watercolor painting, acrylic painting, pastel painting, digital painting, ink wash painting, spray painting, Fresco secco painting, gouache painting , Enamel painting, tempera painting, sand painting. Cheers!
Woohoo! Thanks for listing out all those other prompts. I'm going to try them out now!
@@brianmatiash One thing I forgot to mention: It's much more time efficient to create an action for each type of painting style. Works like a charm! 😁
Oh, I hadn’t even considered binding that to an action. It works well?
@@brianmatiash Yes. I'm working with it now. One action works for both portrait & landscape. Of course if you want to change the style you need to type it in after the first gen(s) or you could do a separate action for each style.
Thank you for showing this technique. I have been looking for a way to transform my photos to look more like paintings for some time. It will be fun to generate nice images. But I think I'm going to wait for the finished version of Ps.
You're welcome! And it's not a bad idea to wait for Generative Fill to make it to the public version of PS. It'll hopefully be even better by then. I suspect we'll see it released this Oct, around when Adobe has their Max conference.
Hi Brian! Thanks for the great video! I have tried your method and another very similar method for creating a fill mask and running a watercolor prompt from there - trouble is, the generative layer seems to create an entirely seperate layer, not grabbing the original image, and I end up with a similar result as your "random oil painitns" results. I've tried this meticulously step by step soooo many times but no luck. Am I missing something? Thank you again :)
Cool tutorial! At 6:15, the B in HSB is brightness, not blue 😉
Very helpful thanks!
You're welcome!
This is amazing! The only thing to be aware of is the resolution constraint that generative fill has. The new content it generates is limited to 1024 px on the longest side. So if your original image is high resolution and you use generative fill on the whole thing the quality will go down. Hopefully Adobe fixes this soon.
Yup, that's a good reminder and I meant to bring that up when I zoomed in on the canvas texture of the oil painting example. I forgot to bring it up because I was so impressed with the quality of the canvas texture, but you can see the resolution drop when zooming in. Thanks for the reminder! And, yes, I hope Adobe ups the max resolution when it takes it out of beta.
Is it possible to make a quick mask of a specific area? sometimes there's only parts i want use it on and not the entire image. thanks!
I am able to save my painted ai photo to the desktop and to LR but not to Lightroom Classic. I changed the version in LRC to 2024 before proceeding with Generative Ai in Photoshop. Is there a reason as to why I'm not able to save to LRC since PS is not in beta version currently? Great video and love your easy to understand video.
Great! how can I attain this effect in Firefly AI Generative fill ? Thanks :)
great video, appreciate the slow moves and slower speed of speech, not being a native ps user coming from psp its so hard to get going. im using that ai to fix photos and yer the typing feels like a joke at times like it doesn't matter, like its catching a single word only so finding ways atm to twist it to do what you want is important
Hi nice work thanks for sharing this. I made my order and paid already but don't know where or how to begin. so still learning
I have another video that explains how to use Generative Fill here: czcams.com/video/JZ6tPCIeOKc/video.html
That should help you get started.
Another thing you can do after generating your painting - play with blend modes and the opacity slider - pretty dramatic!
For sure! That’s partly why I showed the Orton effect with the third example. So many cool opportunities for creativity!
thank you!!!
You're welcome!
Hi Brian, great Video! I'm sorry, but without having selected the entire image, I don't see "General Fill" but "Select object". What am I doing wrong?
can't seem to get to filter gallery. I have Command Option shift E and no luck. any suggestions?
Ansel Adams spent more time in the darkroom than he did actually taking photos. Can you imagine the smile on Adams’ face looking at Photoshop’s latest “darkroom” endeavor? One word: WOW!
Exactly! I keep telling people this. For some reason, people seem to think that just because Ansel wasn’t alive when this technology was available, he wouldn’t give it a shot. I firmly believe that he’d love to give it a whirl and would probably get some enjoyment out of it. It’s not like anyone is saying that we should use this to replace the act of taking photos or creating oil paintings. It’s just a cool tech to experiment with.
I love the way the new AI toolkit in Photoshop opens up the creative potential of the artist. Many of us have become photographer/artist. We don’t have to be bound by being a photographer/journalist.
nice review. My preference will be always Topaz impression. we also find some interesting photoshop actions from envato artixty,... but not as realistic as Topaz I think either for oild painting, watercolor, sketches,...
Yeah, Topaz Impressions has a long-standing following of loyal users. I don’t think it’s being updated anymore, which is a shame.
Brian, Tried the watercolor today but found that initially when I tried to open the filter gallery it did not work until I changed the image mode to 8bit then it worked. Simple process. I am still learning what I can do with generative fill...this is amazing. I am experimenting with what modifiers I can use to make the watercolor more detailed. Have you found anything that works. I tried highly detailed and it did not seem to make a difference.
I also found I had to change down to 8 bit to make the Filter gallery available
Hi! Wondering if you could comment if things have changed with the most recent Photoshop Beta updates as of June 15, 2024. I'm following all the steps here. No matter the photo, when I put in a prompt I'm getting a digital mix of blues and a black frame. (not anything like the incorrect examples you show at the beginning of the video) I've watched it several times. Do I have something wrong in my settings or has something change with how the application works with updates? Thank you!
me too!
I have both the regular Adobe Photoshop 2023 and the Beta loaded into my computer. When I go to external editing, I'm only showing the PS 2023 and not the Beta in the drop down. I have a windows machine.
This is a known bug...LR only recognizes the last PS loaded. Hopefully they will fix this soon since it seems to work on MACs as Brian shows.
@@royceahr I noticed that at first. But now LR doesn't even recognize Beta when I bring Beta up first. If you have the right handshake, please describe how you are doing the secret handshake!
Hi, would it be possible to trace a photo on iOS-ie, iPhone-version of the Photoshop and turn it into an impressionistic watercolour image somehow or not, please? Thank you kindly. Stay safe always.
Brian, Enjoyed the video. But when you zoomed in after the canvas texture was applied, one can see that the canvas texture is applied OVER the brush strokes. Wouldn't it be better to apply the canvas texture BEFORE generating the painting effect? Same for watercolor papers, etc.
Yeah, that is a compromise for sure. In my tests where I applied the texture canvas before using Generative Fill, it pretty much obliterated any trace of it. So, the result is somewhat moot in my book.
I know that the beta version of generative fill maxes out at 1024x1024. Do the paintings reflect this? I noticed that when you zoomed in the image looked good.
Yeah, I believe that resolution limit applies to any generative fill. You can see the resolution fall apart a bit when I zoom in to see the canvas texture, but it’s not remotely noticeable at fit-to-screen view. Still, I wouldn’t rely on it if you intend to make a large-scale print…. At least not until Adobe ups the output resolution (which will hopefully happen in the future).
Your process for alternatively opening PS versus PS Beta from Lightroom only works on a Mac, not Windows. The workaround on Windows is to "pre-open" PS or PS Beta then move the image from Lightroom,
Hello! I just updated PS Beta and now this doesn't work for me. Any ideas on what to do to get it back? It just makes the random painting, even when the transparent selection is made.
Same here… maybe need to install an older version of beta if that’s possible? I’ve seen so many videos using this technique, but I can’t get it to work.
can you let me know why the steps you mentioned above are not working for me to convert my photograph in the oil paint
Hey where was thay image or the Chinese arches taken sat? What a great photo
Thank you, Ryan!
This isn't a Chinese arch. It's the Toyosaki Kompira Shrine located in Hokkaido, Japan.
that was easier than other explanations
That's what I like to hear! :)
in order to get to the filters in PS I had to change to 8 bit - FYI
Ahhh right! Thanks for the reminder!
There is one aspect to all of this and that is when someone does this but then DOES NOT 'put the ingredients on the box' and then tries to claim to be a brilliant physical painter artist. So it is an ethical thing. All someone needs to do is put 'Digitally Created Art'. The 'client' can go and decide to buy or not after than - this is irrelevant whether you are actually selling or not. It is only about integrity and honesty. It will not be long before we start hearing of fairies at the bottom of the garden being claimed as true! Yup it really has been happening for many many years... there is nought thaas new but the method.
Very good video.
I would never have known this was possible if I hadn't watched this video. Not sure how much I'll use it, but it's a fun tool to have in the box.
One of my favorite things to do with GF is to start with a completely blank canvas, select all and generate with no prompt. It's interesting what it can come up with. I've gotten a few really weird things, but sometimes it's actually fairly realistic looking. Mainly just landscapes, but had a cityscape and a few more detail oriented images too.
Turning photos into paintings using GF has becoming addicting for me because I know that my mom will love some of these painting conversions. So, it has become sort of a challenge for me to find photos that will look great as oil or watercolor paintings. The next step will be to see how they look when I print them, especially with the canvas texture filter applied.
And I’m with you, sometimes I just love starting with a blank canvas and letting GF do it’s things. It still has room to improve, but we’re in Wild West territory now.
BTW, HSB stands for Hue, Saturation, Brightness. That's the brightness of a desaturated color (gray), not the blue channel.
Great video, however the technique works in your images because it was in an area that the AI does not have an issue with. I tried it on an image with a person in it and the despite multiple tries could not get a usable render.
Yeah, I’ve seen reports of others trying with portrait photos and the results weren’t very good. I don’t involve myself with portrait work, which is why I didn’t cover it in the video.
This still isn't working now.
Has anyone found a resolution for this?
Are there any copyright type issues for using Adobe’s AI software to create images that you sell? Does Adobe own the image if it was AI generated, even from your original work? Just something to think about. The video was good.
Great video Brian! I have followed your instructions step by step on one of my photos, but when I click on the "filter" drop down, "Filter gallery" is not highlighted. what am I doing wrong? thank you!
Hey Chris. Did you send your image to PS via Lightroom? For some reason, I don't think that Filter Gallery is available via that workflow. If that's the case, do me a favor and export the image to your desktop, open it directly in PS, and see if Filter Gallery is available.
@@brianmatiash Yes, I sent the image over to PS from Lightroom. I will try your recommendation and let you know if it worked. Thanks for your quick reply!
Brian, Chris. i had same problem & yes, went from LR to PS - filter gallery not available. OK now, selecting image in PS Beta, goes to filter gallery. thanks.
Click on Image Mode and change it to 8bit
I don't have anything against AI in editing, I like noise reduction in Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but if image is simply too noisy it can be weird, bendy wavy look.
But if not crazy noisy it works superbly without changing the shapes of the object. So if using making reviews of stuff, posting pics, you need to shoot a pic not too noisy, if using AI de noise, or not use it. Just make sure you don't make the product look worse than it actually is, just removing the noise nothing else. Noisier it is, harder it is to fix. So make sure to use right settings in camera.
It worked, but the painting strokes were so big it destroyed the picture. I tried fine brush etc, but to no avail. I re generated it a lot but always it was too big a stroke patterns unlike your picture.
Thanks a lot, great idea but I'm having a problem. I'm selecting 30% with the color picker and when I turn off quick mask by clicking on the icon in the toolbar , I still see the marching ants around the image which I believe means that more than 30% are selected. Then when I do the generative fill, my painting is 100% opaque, covers up the whole image like when you started in the video. I think I can remedy it by "alt-clicking" to turn off quick mask... I then still have to play around with the layer opacity in the layers box. I'm not sure what's going on.... thanks
Oh wow. I don’t recall running into that issue, but I’ll play around with my own settings to see if I can replicate.
@@brianmatiash thanks Brian, I think I solved it. I was throwing in an extra step somewhere of select all. It works well if you stick with the sequence. I also play around with the opacity. painting over the mask etc FYI, something I haven't seen yet on youtube, I'm using AI Gen to make picture frames, by following the "extend background " selections and typing "antique picture frame" etc...... you might want to try a video. tx again
@@turkrich That's an awesome idea! I'll definitely play around with expanding the canvas to serve as an art frame. Thank you for sharing that great idea!
Brian, I don't know why but I get the same issue with seeing the "marching ants" when I deselect the layer with the quick mask and I have to hit "invert selection" to get the painting that's not totally opaque.....not sure what is happening??? any idea??? I am still working on your process though!! THANKA@@brianmatiash
ANy chance you know why beta newest release puts out this horrible layer of white blue and black every time?
Hi Brian, thanks for this. It's awesome for landscape but not good for people or portraits because it is changing the appearance of the person. Can you have new video for that? thanks
I was considering doing a video for portraits, but I hardly ever do anything with that genre. I am going to see how it works with pet photos, though.
FYI -- Lightroom > Preferences > External Editing > select Photoshop version feature doesn't work (or exist) in Windows as of LrC 12.4. It may (probably will) work in later versions.
Interesting. Thank you for that update. I don't have a Windows machine and just assumed it would work for all versions of LRC.
This process doesn't seem to work anymore with the latest beta.
Ditto.
The process you told in the video is not working for my image
I tried this twice and it did not work.....everything just turned blue. I did exactly as you did....something is missed out....
Just a quick comment, it's not 30% on the blue channel but rather 30% on the brightness channel (I don't think it allows you to generate just blue/red/green)
That’s right. I mentioned it in a few other comments that I misspoke because I was thinking of the RGB values.
Doesn't work for me for some reason, I always get the result as if I'm not applying the mask
It's not the "blue channel", it's the brightness channel. :)
Yup, I’ve replied to several people who have corrected me about this. I was looking at the “B” of the RGB fields and misspoke.
The more you decrease the shade of gray the more detailed picture you get
B=30% was brightness of HSB, not Blue Channel. Can do much better image to painting/sketch etc by using Corel Painter program....including AI effects
Right, I already mentioned it in another comment that I was looking at the RGB values when I spoke. It’s an honest mistake. And if you prefer Corel Painter, then have a blast with it. I use PS and it has suited me just fine all these years.
its not blue channel , its b for brightness 30% isn't it?
Does it work's for Photoshop 2024?
Yup!
Cool video. What happens if you don’t use 30% grey and you use 25% say?
Glad you enjoyed the vid and excellent question. I was going to cover that in the video and totally forgot to. In my experiments, 30% was the sweet spot for Generative Fill to properly apply the effect to the entire photo. In situations where I tried 50%, for example, Generative Fill didn't factor in the image at all and just generated art from nothing (as it did when I just clicked "Select All" and ran it. 30% has never failed me in all of my attempts, so that's why I went with it.
@@brianmatiash interesting, thanks for the answer 👍 I’m gonna have a play with this at the weekend
Sweet! I hope you are happy with the results. I'm not gonna lie - it's kind of addicting.
I also will do some more research to see why 30% seems to be the magic number for the quick mask mode selection.
Looks like I need to play with this! You do however make the same slip of the tongue a couple of times - when creating the 30% mask I believe that B stands for brightness, not blue. (H = hue. S = saturation. B = brightness.)
I have watched, rewatched and tried too many times to count, and it doesn't give me anything like my original photo. I have the current version.
Maybe this technology will have a future. But right now I’m not convinced that it can really emulate oil painting or anything related to it.
why masking with 30% blue ?
It’s not blue. I misspoke, I meant brightness.
@@brianmatiash i try it, that so fantastic
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Meticulously followed your workflow and after several attempts cannot make it work.
It didn't work for me
mine just make a square watercolour blob instead of making the photo into watercolour :/
what happened to being a genuine photographer. No post processing etc then you know who is the artist
30% Brightness, not 30% Blue
Ha! Yup, I was thinking of the RGB values below those and misspoke.
Not new to Photoshop ………how everything I tried was a disaster.
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