Yo so I decided to make this comment for some lashback regarding Hebi Sasuke Scaling far above KCM1 Naruto via the Hebi Sasuke > Suigetsu ~ V1 Raikage ~ KCM1 Naruto. Now I don’t want to go in depth as there are a lot of things with this but to address more about Raikage, his cloak functions with thresholds at which he amps himself, he amps himself with Raiton all the up until he reaches a threshold of V2 and his hair spikes up, this is stated as he has to slow his own speed to keep up with Killer Bee and he is able to keep up with KCM1 Naruto both before and after upping his speed. We also know the Raikage wasn’t serious yet when Suigetsu attacks him as the following chapter synopsis states as much. This is consistent for Suigetsu to be a low V1 level combatant as he is stated by Sasuke just prior to the summit to be inferior to Kisame, a character who was only relative to a base Bee, who V1 Raikage has to hold back around to keep up with. There are other links but again I’m not here to debunk that, just to elaborate on that Suigetsu portion for those who are genuinely curious, All Love🙏🏻
what if you fuse the 2 basically Hebi Sasuke gains MS or Taka some how kips all the Orochimaru powers and curse mark and every thing that comes with it
For me, Early Shippuden/Hebi Sasuke was the most unique and underrated version of him, Hebi Sasuke was the perfect balance of Martial Arts like-Hand to Hand Combat (his Taijutsu was exceptional) and Swordplay CQC. A diverse range of short-medium and even some long range Fire & Lightning Powers. His Speed and his Reflex Reaction was very Insane for that specific time, The utility of the White Snake powers. Complete with a cool Vampire/Cursed like Transformation(The Cursed Seal) All along -side his 3 Tomoe Sharingan. Hebi Sasuke gave off vibes and feelings like: cool, edgy, direct, unique, intelligent, focused, determined, perceptive, no-messing, tactical, analytical, powerful. ☯️🤷🏻♂️
Even though Hebi Saskue is stronger physically and has better regen , having an MS is just too broken . Hebi Saskue would just get cooked by Bee and Raikage way worse than MS Saskue.
That's not all Hebi Sasuke has over MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke can instantly summon white snakes like no problem. Using them to block bombs, prevent fall damage, and to use time space jutsu. He also has Orochimaru's abilities including his jutsu to shed his skin to escape a fatal/death blow which MS Sasuke can't do. His giant wings allow him to fly and the wings are strong enough to rip through multiple Orochimaru snakes, tank Deidara's bombs, block and successfully hurt one tailed Naruto. Hebi Sasuke just wouldn't have a way to take out Ay or Killer Bee unless he uses Manda but still.
Curse mark would amp the base speed that fks sasuke has access to and amp his chidori that already pierced through the raikages arms and spilled blood. A curse mark amped speed and chidori would get to raikages heart and kill him.
@@angelm365 bro , there’s no way u watched Naruto and came to the conclusion that Hebi Saskue , the guy who barely beat Deidara is killing the Raikage with a chidori . The Raikage is stated to be able to 1v1 a Bijuu but ur telling me a Chidori is gonna kill him. Raikage can tank Bee’s Lariot and is also a lightning style user which will counter the chidori anyway. Saskue’s chidori did literally 0 damage to the Raikage .
Hebi sasuke was the best in terms of personality. He was calm, collected and analyzed his opponents well. Taka Sasuke was just crazy and was just spamming susanoo and amaterasu like there's no tomorrow.
Summit Sasuke vs Itachi is super interesting for sure. Itachi wanted Sasuke to get the MS since the beginning where he told the MS secrets to Sasuke after the Uchiha massacre so the summit Sasuke would be the version of Sasuke he wanted to face. Some interactions between their arsenal would be interesting too like can Sasuke’s kagutsuchi control Itachi’s Amaterasu flames as well? If that’s case Itachi using Amaterasu would just give Sasuke more flames to manipulate. I also don’t think the totsuka blade can just pierce through Susano’s defense since someone did say the totsuka blade was cutting Orochimaru’s snake like a normal sword and only used its sealing ability on Orochimaru himself. Also, if Itachi wasn’t sandbagging I wonder if Sasuke can even break through the Tsukuyomi? He does have MS in this situation though so it should be possible.
Well funnily enough the totsuka blade could pierce it, as it doesn’t have a physical form and lacks even mass, so yeah it passes straight through, and yeah the fight is pretty interesting
@@Virhtue if that's the case then it's definitely gg for Sasuke. Although I don't know if a hypothetical evil Itachi would wanna do that since he would want to take Sasuke's eyes to get the EMS and sealing him away would not allow him to do that.
How does Hebi Saskue beat Gaara …… How does he damage him ? Gaara is literally a bad matchup for Saskue. The susano was literally the one reason why Saskue wasn’t instantly killed in the summit by the heavy hitters , Hebi Saskue is dying .
Summoning manda or aoda or any massive snake would demolish that room and cause the ceiling to fall on everyone jist as easily as susanoo caused the room to collapse. Gaara and company would end up in the same situation.
@@Virhtue I mean bro , Gaara’s sand was blocking Amaterasu and was able to intercept the Raikage’s V2 lightning style attack before it hit Saskue so I’m gonna say chidori ain’t working . This Gaara is also basically the same as War arc Gaara as very little time past before the war starts after the summit…. Sooo yeah . Not to mention this isn’t a 1v1 he’s gonna be getting jumped in a closed off space against Gaara, the guy who can just turn his surroundings into more sand.
Lightning chakra is superior to earth chakra. Hebi Sasuke then adds Sage chakra to that already powerful advantage and considerably furthers the gap. Hebi Sasuke is faster and stronger than MS Sasuke. Cm2 Furthers that speed and strength boost. This Sasuke has more chakra than MS Sasuke does. This Hebi sasuke is more experienced than the Hebi Sasuke that fought itachi. Hate Amp = more chakra and physicals over Itachi Fight Hebi Sasuke. + Experience = More Chakra and Physicals over Itachi fight Hebi Sasuke. + Getting more used to orochimaru's chakra and abilities = Less Cost for Orochimaru's abilities and greater use with them. + Sharingan prowess increase = Further sealing Orochimaru and gaining even more of a buff. This Sasuke is likely as fast as if not faster than the Raikage while in CM2. He can easily pierce sand shields with Lightning and Sage chakra. He has 'multiple lives' via Orochimaru's 'substitution' jutsu. Whereas gaara's sand can stop the impact of Amaturasu as it's just a puff of flames. + the raikage stopped his attack when he saw the sand and retreated back. Additionally, the raikage's lightning armor isn't the same as a lightning attack and the sand enghulfed a large area of the Raikages body as he was falling. Which is considerably slower than running and throwing jabs. Sage chakra enhanced Chidori senbon thrown by CM2 Sasuke might be a different story. Elemental Advantage+ considerable speed and strength+ Sage chakra = Incredible piercing power. Reasonably, CM2 Sasuke can use his incredible speed and chakra potency to make a very fast and potent Chidori spear which instantly kills Gaara before he can react. His sands certainly not stopping it.
Post oro hebi sasuke would absolute kill gaara. That flimsy sand armor isn't tanking a kirin. Gaara's is only blocking amaterasu because it refocus sasuke's visual. But enton release and chidori is piercing through gaara's sand just as easily as it did the first time.
Ay kinda bodyslams Hebi Sasuke if Karin’s statement about Sasuke’s chakra being thicker and denser curse mark is any indication that’s he’s stronger than CM2. Mei’s lava style covers a large range so if Sasuke even remotely tries to block he’s getting dissolved into goo, he’s better of dodging it. Nothing Hebi Sasuke has can get past Gaara’s ultimate defense except genjutsu but Gaara’s defense is automatic. Can’t see him beating Gaara, Mei is more likely but the environment favors Mei since she can flood the hallways with acid mist. Honestly even if you think Gaara didn’t get stronger from BOS to the summit, Sasuke said Deidara was a lot stronger than he anticipated despite having many matchup advantages. Deidara had to cheese the fight to beat Gaara.
18:32 wouldn’t the CM chakra break him out of the genjustu anyway, the CM is infusing Sasuke with Oros chakra which should theoretically disrupt his own chakra in turn breaking him out of the genjustu? I don’t know if you could say that the eyes are comparable due to him breaking out of a higher level dojutsu’s genjutsu, due to the disruption of chakra that should occur.
Curse mark I think amps sasukes speed enough to where he can pseudo blitz danzo. What I mean by that is he would probably be able to react to it, and move out the way sorta, but not enough to where sasuke probably would eventually just keep doing that and kill him forcing danzo to use iza. It would be more taxing for sasuke tho. Plus he could use snakes to make bite him or something and poison, summon manda, kirin, and flight, chidori stream, chidori spear, chidori enton, and other things. Danzo doesn’t have great durability so if sasuke lands anything on him he simply dies.
@@Virhtue the raw power and hax of 5KS sasuke is def insane plus the type of amps he receives are good specifically for him as an uchiha/Indra reincarnation/and newly awakened MS. But since he was currently adapting to the fighting style I think he was a bit sloppy. Plus he was mentally unstable at that time which makes his fighting style even more sporadic. Hebi sasuke had been honing that specific fighting style for years with this abilities. I think that makes a huge difference fs. So yea 5KS sasuke is def more powerful but I think hebi sasuke due to curse mark and his perfected fighting style makes him more comparable than some ppl would give credit for. So just power alone yes 5KS would be like a whole tier above but I would put them in the same tier (just hebi at the bottom of said tier while 5KS is at the rope of the tier) due to said exp and mastery of his hebi fighting style. Also the draw backs of the curse mark is way less than that of MS so he wouldn’t be getting fatigued or in pain like he was in the original fight. Short version, I think hebi sasuke could still beat danzo in a high diff fight
Great takes on this video from you Sage 👏. One take tho, about the colder sasuke chakra gets the stronger he gets I'd say his doujutsu gets stronger(far more impressive boost than physical at this point) and not his physical traits and this lines up with the emotional uchiha powerups(sharingan evolution)
23:48 totally agree but I would say Deidara would be able to dodge it based on reaction due to Chidori. Arrows would kill him unless you think Ohnoki's combat speed is faster than the arrow (it is not)
Nope Hebi sasuke lebih banyak buff dan trik yang bisa digunakan, penguasaan sasuke pada segel kutukan dan gaya ular sudah sempurna, ketenangan sasuke juga luar biasa Taka sasuke - Kemampuan baru dimiliki dan belum sempurna - susanoo tahap awal - amaterasu - tidak tenang sama sekali dan ceroboh
Curse mark influence would end in the Raikage's death imo. The Hebi sasuke who would fight The Raikage would reasonably be much stronger than the version that fought Itachi. In Addition, Hebi Sasuke is faster and stronger. At the absolute least while in cm2. Cm2 improves the sharingan. Meaning he'd still posess powerful genjutsu and tracking ability much like MS. The difference in the battle is simple. Sasuke managed to barely pierce the raikage's chest in the manga, bout an inch or so. That means he already in canon pierced the armor and injured the Raikage Whereas if in cm2 (Which he would reasonably use to boost attack against an obvious shield.) Hebi sasuke is considerably faster. This speed leads to more force in his jab which in turn means more penetration. Which is then compounded by having higher sttrength as well. You then factor in his cm2 chakra amp. And even more importantly. His Sage Chakra. The sage chakra massively inproves the chidori's power and acts as a higher quality chakra that partially ignores the Raikage's normal chakra lightning cloak. If the Hebi cm2 speed alone adds 50% force and by extension pen. And the strength adds 50% to that. The Raikage is already dead via heart rupture. The addition of sage and orochimaru's chakra's easily doubles penetration. Leading to the Raikage's heart being disintegrated by chidori. So Sasuke kills the raikage with the initial chidori clash and does not get liger bombed. Now. Obviously I wasn't actually counting Sasuke's experience and improvement. Additionally I was underestimating the curse mark and orochimaru's chakra affects. Reasonably, this Sasuke has considerably more chakra and stamina than MS Sasuke. He's likely easily thrice the speed and strength of MS Sasuke while in CM2 and likely closer to 50%faster and stronger in base. He's smarter and more observant in battle. He's killed the Raikage early in the fight. Using less of his already larger chakra pool. He get's regened by Karin begore Gaara arrives. Because he's considerably faster and stronger, with more chakra in addition to having orochimaru's nah I'm not dead jutsu. He definitely either dodges (Faster and stronger, but also not injured or tired like MS was in canon) or Tanks the combined attack hit via snake summoning and then clones himself from a bloody pulp good as new to escape to the kage summit room. In any case. Replace amaturasu with chidori senbon vs Gaara. His throw speed in cm2 and chakra improvements would make them comparable in speed anyhow. (Although due to being lightning chakra they may pierce Gaara's sand and hit him.) Sasuke escapes after the explosion like in canon. (Or he fights them. But I see little reason for him to do this. If he does it can go either way. Since Sasuke's team is likely alright and backing him up and he's fast enough to potentially dodge and bridge the gap to gaara.) He enters the kage meeting room in cm1 with considerably less injury and considerably more stamina. Clashes with samurai dude. Due to having a bunch of chakra. Being much stronger and faster especially in cm1 over base. And having some sage chakra. He cuts through Samurai dudes sword and kills him with a single strike. Same shiz happens but only with his team backing him up (Recovered after killing raikage+guards. And way before Gaara shows up.) Ends up in room with Mizukage. Can't defend against acid. But can regen physically. Not to mention Orochimaru probably has acid resist jutsu's Sasuke can use. Due to greater speed and chakra. He blitzes The mizukage and cuts her down after a bit of a fight. He's definitely hurt but heals himself. Zetsu shows up and heals/recharges Sasuke further. Sasuke has more stamina and less injuries. Manages to fight Onoki for a while. (Could go either way. Due to Sauke's speed.) A few kage guards likely die before Obito steps in. Sasuke fights Danzo for killing the Uchiha. Kills him via repeated blitzes and superior stamina before Karin is got. Get's regenned. He and his team fight and Kill both Kakashi and Sakura before Naruto shows up. Naruto goes rage mode, but is captured by Sasuke. Obito and team taka, or maybe they escape.
Great video mayne💙 I gotta say mayne don't be afraid to state something you believe is true just have solid points to back it up and don't worry about backlash; its way more entertaining when you have hot takes for example hebi sasuke vs mei&gaara(crazy btw💙) So if you don't mind continue making entertaining uchiha videos😂💙(I'm being serious ) So about Mei and gaara.. ain't no way hebi fucking sasuke is winning even one of them.At the time of the summit gaara and Mei are able to combat a madara lvl uchiha.This alone should prove that hebi sasuke is not beating Mei alone or gaara alone.
Deidara definitely loses against summit sasuke but it’s important to note that his flight speed is way faster than himself and his c2 were catching up to sasuke meaning they were faster than his movement speed
Yeah in a sorts, however they can enhance their own cells which could be done easier if they had more dense chakra rather than a quantitative amount, however having more would be better for stamina, so it’s definitely a interesting conversation
@@Virhtuethat's wild in a bad way, the show has shown simpler analogy and feats. Of course fans want to have their own headcannon for their characters
KS sasuke is superior to the version of Itachi that Hebi sasuke fought. None of Alive Itachi’s genjutsu is working on KS sasuke. Itachi’s amateratsu gets negged by sasukes flame control, and they are very comparable in stats based on sasukes feats vs Ay. Realistically KS sasuke should win without much difficulty. Unrealisticly, if itachi grows straight for the susano/totsuka blade it’d be a high diff fight for MS sasuke. But that version of itachi really lacks stamina pretty severely. He used the susano as a last resort and it literally killed him. Like it or not KS sasuke had surpassed Itachi. At bare minimum the version of itachi that Hebi sasuke fought.
Chidori Chidori stream Chidori senban Chidori long sword Kirin Fireball justsu Phenix flower justsu Tiger flame bombs Demon wind shuriken rigged to trap people Snake substitution Snake arms Snake summoning Demon shackle genjustsu Other high level genjustu enough to basically mind control people His leaf cutter sword with lightning running through it. Wires that can be flammable Summoning shurkien
Hebi sasuke has as many moves as MS sasuke except MS sasuke has the additions of amaterasu, enton release, and susanoo. But MS sasuke loses snake rebirth and curse mark(v1 and v2) and last ditch hydra summoning. So it essentially evens out in terms of numbers.
@@Archer170and it was stronger, what's the point of the substitution jutsu if it cost most of his chakra anyway. Most of hebi sasuke skillset werent use cuz it's not gonna do anything to the raikage
Sasuke hebi memiliki banyak trik - kecepatan lebih tinggi - segel terkutuk - gaya ular Namun itu belum cukup untuk melawan ninja rank kage seperti A dan gara bahkan darui Sasuke taka - susanoo tahap awal - amaterasu Namun : kecepatan menurun, daya tahan ular + buff segel hilang Sasuke taka memiliki potensi lebih tinggi yang terus menguat saat itu. Sasuke hebi sudah dikuasai sepenuhnya - Potensi hebi power 100 - Potensi taka power 80 dan terus menguat hingga 120
Hebi Sasuke is stronger, faster more durable has regen and can ignore death via Orochimaru's jutsu. His Chidori is infused with Senjutsu adding superiority when compared to average lightning jutsu. Before even using Susano'o Taka Sasuke stabbed into the Raikages chest. With the added speed and strength of the Curse mark and the empowerment of his jutsu via semi sage mode. Such a stab would have pierced the raikages heart and killed him. Considering practically, all of the resistance came from the Raikages Lightning cloak and he was stabbed in canon. Hebi Sasuke's added strength alone would lead to a kill shot as there would be no remaining resistance against all that extra force. Nevermind Senjutsu empowerment reducing the effectiveness of the cloak and empowering the stab.
The edo would know how to deal with Sasuno, also, amateratsu can be sealed. Tobirama also has flying thunder god, and Sasuke can only lean on those abilities so much before a wince from pain gets him killed.
He never used it in that form and if you have seen my thorough explanations on it, his speed couldn’t reach the threshold to move through the bridge. Unless you believe this Tobirama is greater than a War Arc Tobirama Clone?
@@Virhtue we don’t see him use it, but that doesn’t mean he can’t. He was fighting with hashirama and orochimaru, he likely went with most effective strategy.
True this would be extremely helpful against danzo since hebi sasuke wouldn't have to worry about wasteing chakra on danzo summons not to mention that manda can protect sasuke from danzo wind style attacks making it easier for danzo to slip up.
The hebi Sasuke downplay is crazy against Danzo lol. Of course hebi Sasuke got a lot to take down Danzo if a shuriken can take down Danzo. He can probably blitz Danzo a couple of times and just take him down with his speed like he almost did with Deidara. The first Izanagi spawn attack would definitely be an issue as it will take almost everyone by surprise but Sasuke has the sharingan precog and could probably sense his attack at the last minute. If not, he has the Orochimaru substitution that can get him out of the situation. After the first few Izanagi, Sasuke will definitely figure out how it works. Manda can take on the Baku as well. Danzo only blitz Sasuke at the end because Sasuke had no sharingan active and was fatigued due to his MS spamming and he’s definitely not blitzing hebi Sasuke at full stamina. Danzo could still win because Itachi said Sasuke was lucky to survive the Izanagi but it won’t be as easy for sure.
Summit sasuke beats hebi sasuke taka sasuke beats hebi sasuke hebi sasuke is the weakest because he has no ms ability’s you need ms ablitys sage mode or kyubi chakra or kage lvl strength to survive
Another example of chakra not meaning power or speed hashirama said Naruto had close to his chakra but admitted he was faster and doing better on madera so yea
Sasuke doesn’t have MS level genjutu in Heavy. Fire video but that whole section even if you’re being charitable is just cap. It’s not narratively implied and then it’s more blatant where the Tsukyomi scales as it takes EMS level genjutsu to rival it. So a Mastered 3T Sharingan plus unquantifiable CM2 amp doesn’t equal EMS Genjutsu. Bro couldn’t even genjutsu the Raikage with his Genjutsu and even if you argue it’s because he doesn’t have the unquantifiable CM2 amp then that just goes to show how absurd the claim even is. Because if Sharingan Sasuke’s gen is comparable enough to Itachi’s that some unquantifiable amp can close the distance why wouldn’t a Sasuke with stronger visual prowess only scale closer even without amps. The theory debunks itself and even being charitable it’s a bit absurd to list as a possibility.
@@Virhtue technically it’s between Madara, kagame, or Izuna. Those are the only people who had the MS in 2nds lifetime. Unless it’s filler to the manga, (don’t remember) He said he has never seen a blaze release of that size before. That insinuates he has seen it personally before. Doubt that it’s Madara(but possible) So it comes down to Izuna or Kagame. Going back through today to check every reference when amat was used to see if there is any evidence. Personal hypothesis-Izuna and Madara are related to Sasuke through his mother linage, getting Amaterasu, and inherited ty from wicked eye fugaku. Let me know what you think
Well this isn’t my type of content and I don’t want to ignore you, as I do try to get to every comment. If the Uchiha Weren’t Massacred? Well that’s actually rather simple and is answered for us by Obito explaining Itachi’s why on the choice to slighter his family, which is supported by the second Itachi Shinden novel. Essentially, if the Uchiha weren’t killed by Itachi, a massive War would have broken out against the entire Hidden leaf in an attempt for a Coup De Tat. The war would of been so bad that one of the other five great nations would of came and conquered it, seeing as the Cloud village holds the greatest power stats behind the Leaf, it would probably be the Cloud Taking over the Land of Fire and that’s about it. I could make a video discussing like Itachi, Shisui and Fugaku vs Hiruzen and the sannin for like a faction vs faction matchup?
Sasuke(hebi) Don't have amaterasu why u keep saying he does when that iteration of sasuke never has it after he defeated itachi he turn into sasuke( thetaka)
@@Virhtue though the hokage all got sealed in part 1. I started under standing y'all's fight layouts giving characters more options just to be generous. I was confused as heck while cutting grass earlier.
when hiruzen threw the shirt\uriken he was trynna stab orochimaru since he was doing hand signs just trynna make it clear this man hiruzen didn't stop reanimation with basic ninja tools 😭@@Virhtue
Hebi Sasuke is definitely beating Mei lol and Sasuke can easy hold his own against Gaara as he still has the Lee speed he copied and Gaara's sand can't cope with that speed and the chidori does well against Gaara's sand as we've seen in part 1.
It is also stated the Sharingan directly translates emotions into strength, rather than just ability. The Sannin are stronger than individual Gokage, so even if Sasuke is stronger, it does not mean he is on the Sannin level, yet. Danzō, who is self-admitted inferior to Hiruzen, was able to break through the humanoid Susanoo using a combination Wind Release attack. Sasuke cannot use the Armored Susanoo for any significant period of time since he would just go blind afterwards. If Orochimaru is just outright stronger than Danzō off of his potential reactivity to Hiruzen, then his full power Great Breakthrough might be enough to break through it. Amaterasu is shown to keep burning an Amaterasu through Nagato who needed to Shinra Tensei the flames off. Albeit, Orochimaru might be able to seal the flames like Jiraiya. The shuriken did not stop the coffins. Hiruzen somehow stopped it with an unnamed jutsu. Orochimaru used the coffins as shields against the shurikens. Genjutsu would likely be enough. Special note that Orochimaru might be able to use the Eight Branches to potentially overwhelm Sasuke alongside his Edo Tensei, though. Sasuke's Sharingan is far less developed in Hebi in general due to his lacking emotional development/hatred. That might counteract the benefits of the Cursed Seal of Heaven, even beyond the fact he cannot actually move. Tobi immediately warns Deidara that Sasuke's Body Flicker makes him too fast after the slash, which is corroborated by Sha no Sho. Yes, it was a Body Flicker slash. Mei's Lava Release was able to move at a rate comparable to A against Madara, and Madara complimented both therein. The Guillotine Drop is noted to be lightning speed fast in Jin no Sho, suggesting its speed is not far off from the rest of his nintaijutsu. A's foot was almost tangent with Amaterasu before the sand got in the way, as well (albeit, I agree the exact timing is up for debate). Gaara's sand in sufficient volume was able to block C3 which likely has superior attack potency to C2, which was superior to Sasuke's durability in Version 2, and could also block Amaterasu. Nothing really indicates that Sasuke could pierce it by that point (the sand is not actually Earth Release, and thus it does not suffer a weakness to Lightning Release). Gaara and Mei could also just isolate Sasuke/keep him at bay whilst he slowly melts to death, doubly so when Gaara can fly, and it seems unlikely Sasuke could keep up whilst Gaara and Mei are shooting at him/he is melting. Sasuke does not know the full details of the Blade of Totsuka since he was unconscious for when it was used. I think it with A, the Amaterasu tried to appear on him but before it could the target was out of view causing it instead appear on the person behind him. Same end-point, though. I doubt it could phase through the Susanoo, at any rate. Danzō has ten Sharingan on his arm, and the one in his eye. Not twelve. Hebi Sasuke can use snakes as shields which he used to block C1 and C0. He might already have Aoda at this point who is comparable to Manda who is equal to or greater than Gamabunta who could hold off Shukaku and briefly held down Kurama. Not that I think it would be enough, in the end, but it is an additional defensive option.
@@Virhtue i dont believe gaara sand is blitz hebi but i do believe his sand can keep up and another thing is it mei and gaara as a team or like a gauntlet style if so i agree sasuke win da ones
@@Virhtue you just a sasuketard if you think hebi sasuke beat raikage this version of him isn’t strong at all he is strong but not strong at all Sasuke is one of my favourite characters but stop defending sasuke
@@Virhtue Danzo was killed by MS Sasuke surprising him with shuriken. Hebi Sasuke was far more versatile and creative than MS Sasuke because MS is a completely different kit that’s not really conducive to out of the box thinking. MS abilities benefit more from overwhelming your opponent with brute force and instant kills, ending the fight asap. Susanoo keeps him rooted, and it is a massive chakra drain, and Amaterasu strains his eyes so much that I’m pretty sure THAT is the reason Danzo managed to get past him to take Karin hostage. Danzo said so himself that Sasuke’s used his eyes too much. Susanoo and Amaterasu for a stamina battle is a big mistake. Hebi Sasuke’s Chidori variants aren’t nearly as exhaustive as keeping Susanoo up, and they are just as lethal. Chidori Senbon for long range kills, Chidori Sharp Spear for mid range, and Chidori Stream for when Danzo gets too close. Sasuke can also summon snakes to tank explosions from Deidara. He can also summon/reverse summon to escape explosions within less than seconds. He can easily do the same thing to escape Danzo’s vacuum attack. Hebi Sasuke’s genjutsu prowess is just as impressive and subtle as MS Sasuke, given how Orochimaru’s jutsu is reversed with it, Deidara’s trained eye still loses to it, and he breaks through Itachi’s Tsukuyomi. And Izanagi is a time limited jutsu, not a limited respawn jutsu. He doesn’t have 12 lives (counting Shisui’s eye). He has infinite lives for 10 minutes. I’d argue that Hebi Sasuke is way more likely to survive a 10 minute fight and finish Danzo off with a Kirin after they both exhausted all their chakra, and Kirin is a free shot he can fire without chakra.
@@SydCar facts. Summit Sasuke was way too wasteful and was spamming his MS for no reason as you don't need the Susanoo to kill Danzo when he died to a shuriken. Hebi Sasuke would be more tactical and smart about it and wouldn't be as exhausted.
@@OddEyes1 Yup. That’s a huge bonus for Hebi Sasuke. He was calm, extremely analytical, and very forward thinking. MS Sasuke was too angry and full of hatred to think straight. MS Sasuke is still smart, but not nearly as impressive as Hebi Sasuke. The key to defeating Danzo was pressing him to use up all his time. If even shuriken damage is something Danzo would rewrite, he clearly relies on Izanagi too much. Hebi Sasuke would’ve exploited the hell out of that. I also think that there isn’t really a major advantage stat-wise between Hebi and MS. MS Sasuke is getting more intense and powerful chakra because of his hatred growing. But Hebi Sasuke is hateful too. Just not as angry. Hebi Sasuke still hated Itachi, and he’d hate the f*ck out of Danzo for having those Sharingan in his arm. Uchiha gain more power from hatred regardless of if they have MS or not. Hebi Sasuke’s hatred will grow in the fight against Danzo, same as MS Sasuke’s did. Plus he’ll still have CM2 for extra amps.
@@SydCar Hebi Sasuke had hatred but wouldn't let it cloud him into being reckless in a fight. Itachi was goading him throughout their fight talking about using him as a spare and Sasuke was still able to plot out his strategy to set up Kirin. That's the main difference between him and summit Sasuke.
Yo so I decided to make this comment for some lashback regarding Hebi Sasuke Scaling far above KCM1 Naruto via the Hebi Sasuke > Suigetsu ~ V1 Raikage ~ KCM1 Naruto. Now I don’t want to go in depth as there are a lot of things with this but to address more about Raikage, his cloak functions with thresholds at which he amps himself, he amps himself with Raiton all the up until he reaches a threshold of V2 and his hair spikes up, this is stated as he has to slow his own speed to keep up with Killer Bee and he is able to keep up with KCM1 Naruto both before and after upping his speed. We also know the Raikage wasn’t serious yet when Suigetsu attacks him as the following chapter synopsis states as much. This is consistent for Suigetsu to be a low V1 level combatant as he is stated by Sasuke just prior to the summit to be inferior to Kisame, a character who was only relative to a base Bee, who V1 Raikage has to hold back around to keep up with. There are other links but again I’m not here to debunk that, just to elaborate on that Suigetsu portion for those who are genuinely curious, All Love🙏🏻
"Lashback"? 🤣 🤣 💀
Idc how you justify that. There is NO WAY Hebi Sasuke scales above KCM1 Naruto or Sage Naruto. To quote Keef- Boy that's just crazy!
@@MrYutbe57that’s the delusional Loko scaling. He be trying to scale Hebi Sasuke above KCM 1 Naruto. Insanity
the amount of shit you spouted out of your mouth 😂
what if you fuse the 2 basically Hebi Sasuke gains MS or Taka some how kips all the Orochimaru powers and curse mark and every thing that comes with it
For me, Early Shippuden/Hebi Sasuke was the most unique and underrated version of him, Hebi Sasuke was the perfect balance of Martial Arts like-Hand to Hand Combat (his Taijutsu was exceptional) and Swordplay CQC. A diverse range of short-medium and even some long range Fire & Lightning Powers. His Speed and his Reflex Reaction was very Insane for that specific time, The utility of the White Snake powers. Complete with a cool Vampire/Cursed like Transformation(The Cursed Seal) All along -side his 3 Tomoe Sharingan. Hebi Sasuke gave off vibes and feelings like: cool, edgy, direct, unique, intelligent, focused, determined, perceptive, no-messing, tactical, analytical, powerful. ☯️🤷🏻♂️
Hebi Sasuke is quite cool
Even though Hebi Saskue is stronger physically and has better regen , having an MS is just too broken . Hebi Saskue would just get cooked by Bee and Raikage way worse than MS Saskue.
That's not all Hebi Sasuke has over MS Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke can instantly summon white snakes like no problem. Using them to block bombs, prevent fall damage, and to use time space jutsu. He also has Orochimaru's abilities including his jutsu to shed his skin to escape a fatal/death blow which MS Sasuke can't do. His giant wings allow him to fly and the wings are strong enough to rip through multiple Orochimaru snakes, tank Deidara's bombs, block and successfully hurt one tailed Naruto. Hebi Sasuke just wouldn't have a way to take out Ay or Killer Bee unless he uses Manda but still.
sleeping on hebi smh
The sasuke who fought danzo is physically stronger than Hebi sasuke tho?
Curse mark would amp the base speed that fks sasuke has access to and amp his chidori that already pierced through the raikages arms and spilled blood. A curse mark amped speed and chidori would get to raikages heart and kill him.
@@angelm365 bro , there’s no way u watched Naruto and came to the conclusion that Hebi Saskue , the guy who barely beat Deidara is killing the Raikage with a chidori . The Raikage is stated to be able to 1v1 a Bijuu but ur telling me a Chidori is gonna kill him. Raikage can tank Bee’s Lariot and is also a lightning style user which will counter the chidori anyway. Saskue’s chidori did literally 0 damage to the Raikage .
Hebi sasuke was the best in terms of personality. He was calm, collected and analyzed his opponents well. Taka Sasuke was just crazy and was just spamming susanoo and amaterasu like there's no tomorrow.
Yeah
The way Amaterasu was originally written, it’s supposed to just appear on the target. Great video!!!
I don’t know if I agree with that, but I could understand that belief🤷♂️
@@Virhtue That's how it worked in classic Naruto, Itachi looked at the toad wall and then Amaterasu opened a hole through it.
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The anime took liberties by showing amaterasu and kamui traveling distance to their target in red vision 🤣 🤣
Raikage dodged it so we know it travels and isn't instant, unless Ay is infinite speed which obviously isn't the case
It’s created from chakra. The chakra has to travel just like ocular genjutsu. When it’s converted to black flames depends on the jutsu being used
Summit Sasuke vs Itachi is super interesting for sure. Itachi wanted Sasuke to get the MS since the beginning where he told the MS secrets to Sasuke after the Uchiha massacre so the summit Sasuke would be the version of Sasuke he wanted to face. Some interactions between their arsenal would be interesting too like can Sasuke’s kagutsuchi control Itachi’s Amaterasu flames as well? If that’s case Itachi using Amaterasu would just give Sasuke more flames to manipulate. I also don’t think the totsuka blade can just pierce through Susano’s defense since someone did say the totsuka blade was cutting Orochimaru’s snake like a normal sword and only used its sealing ability on Orochimaru himself. Also, if Itachi wasn’t sandbagging I wonder if Sasuke can even break through the Tsukuyomi? He does have MS in this situation though so it should be possible.
Well funnily enough the totsuka blade could pierce it, as it doesn’t have a physical form and lacks even mass, so yeah it passes straight through, and yeah the fight is pretty interesting
@@Virhtue if that's the case then it's definitely gg for Sasuke. Although I don't know if a hypothetical evil Itachi would wanna do that since he would want to take Sasuke's eyes to get the EMS and sealing him away would not allow him to do that.
How does Hebi Saskue beat Gaara …… How does he damage him ? Gaara is literally a bad matchup for Saskue. The susano was literally the one reason why Saskue wasn’t instantly killed in the summit by the heavy hitters , Hebi Saskue is dying .
If you want a simple way as to how he hurts him, chidori
Summoning manda or aoda or any massive snake would demolish that room and cause the ceiling to fall on everyone jist as easily as susanoo caused the room to collapse.
Gaara and company would end up in the same situation.
@@Virhtue I mean bro , Gaara’s sand was blocking Amaterasu and was able to intercept the Raikage’s V2 lightning style attack before it hit Saskue so I’m gonna say chidori ain’t working . This Gaara is also basically the same as War arc Gaara as very little time past before the war starts after the summit…. Sooo yeah . Not to mention this isn’t a 1v1 he’s gonna be getting jumped in a closed off space against Gaara, the guy who can just turn his surroundings into more sand.
Lightning chakra is superior to earth chakra.
Hebi Sasuke then adds Sage chakra to that already powerful advantage and considerably furthers the gap.
Hebi Sasuke is faster and stronger than MS Sasuke.
Cm2 Furthers that speed and strength boost.
This Sasuke has more chakra than MS Sasuke does.
This Hebi sasuke is more experienced than the Hebi Sasuke that fought itachi.
Hate Amp = more chakra and physicals over Itachi Fight Hebi Sasuke. + Experience = More Chakra and Physicals over Itachi fight Hebi Sasuke. + Getting more used to orochimaru's chakra and abilities = Less Cost for Orochimaru's abilities and greater use with them. + Sharingan prowess increase = Further sealing Orochimaru and gaining even more of a buff.
This Sasuke is likely as fast as if not faster than the Raikage while in CM2. He can easily pierce sand shields with Lightning and Sage chakra.
He has 'multiple lives' via Orochimaru's 'substitution' jutsu.
Whereas gaara's sand can stop the impact of Amaturasu as it's just a puff of flames. + the raikage stopped his attack when he saw the sand and retreated back. Additionally, the raikage's lightning armor isn't the same as a lightning attack and the sand enghulfed a large area of the Raikages body as he was falling. Which is considerably slower than running and throwing jabs.
Sage chakra enhanced Chidori senbon thrown by CM2 Sasuke might be a different story.
Elemental Advantage+ considerable speed and strength+ Sage chakra = Incredible piercing power.
Reasonably, CM2 Sasuke can use his incredible speed and chakra potency to make a very fast and potent Chidori spear which instantly kills Gaara before he can react.
His sands certainly not stopping it.
Post oro hebi sasuke would absolute kill gaara. That flimsy sand armor isn't tanking a kirin.
Gaara's is only blocking amaterasu because it refocus sasuke's visual. But enton release and chidori is piercing through gaara's sand just as easily as it did the first time.
Ay kinda bodyslams Hebi Sasuke if Karin’s statement about Sasuke’s chakra being thicker and denser curse mark is any indication that’s he’s stronger than CM2. Mei’s lava style covers a large range so if Sasuke even remotely tries to block he’s getting dissolved into goo, he’s better of dodging it. Nothing Hebi Sasuke has can get past Gaara’s ultimate defense except genjutsu but Gaara’s defense is automatic. Can’t see him beating Gaara, Mei is more likely but the environment favors Mei since she can flood the hallways with acid mist.
Honestly even if you think Gaara didn’t get stronger from BOS to the summit, Sasuke said Deidara was a lot stronger than he anticipated despite having many matchup advantages. Deidara had to cheese the fight to beat Gaara.
Yeah but hebi sasuke has stated better endurance and substitution then kage sasuke cause he has white snake
@@Steven-rk3ky That endurance goes out the window when you realize that 1 Orochimaru style substitution costs him a huge amount of chakra.
@@hobbyhorse5848he also has access to manda who relative to gamabunta
@@Steven-rk3ky Aight you got me there Gamabunta is relative if not superior to Jiraiya, who’s relative to Hiruzen, who’s above the Gokage
I hear good men having a analytical discussion breaking down some valid key points. Awesome video keep up the good work gents 😅
Thanks! Will do!
18:32 wouldn’t the CM chakra break him out of the genjustu anyway, the CM is infusing Sasuke with Oros chakra which should theoretically disrupt his own chakra in turn breaking him out of the genjustu? I don’t know if you could say that the eyes are comparable due to him breaking out of a higher level dojutsu’s genjutsu, due to the disruption of chakra that should occur.
Well it’s that Oro’s chakra is innately another beings chakra and could interfere and break him out yes
Curse mark I think amps sasukes speed enough to where he can pseudo blitz danzo. What I mean by that is he would probably be able to react to it, and move out the way sorta, but not enough to where sasuke probably would eventually just keep doing that and kill him forcing danzo to use iza. It would be more taxing for sasuke tho. Plus he could use snakes to make bite him or something and poison, summon manda, kirin, and flight, chidori stream, chidori spear, chidori enton, and other things. Danzo doesn’t have great durability so if sasuke lands anything on him he simply dies.
I could understand where your coming from, but me personally, I just think the four amps from Sasuke just kind of put him in the tier above
@@Virhtue the raw power and hax of 5KS sasuke is def insane plus the type of amps he receives are good specifically for him as an uchiha/Indra reincarnation/and newly awakened MS. But since he was currently adapting to the fighting style I think he was a bit sloppy. Plus he was mentally unstable at that time which makes his fighting style even more sporadic. Hebi sasuke had been honing that specific fighting style for years with this abilities. I think that makes a huge difference fs. So yea 5KS sasuke is def more powerful but I think hebi sasuke due to curse mark and his perfected fighting style makes him more comparable than some ppl would give credit for. So just power alone yes 5KS would be like a whole tier above but I would put them in the same tier (just hebi at the bottom of said tier while 5KS is at the rope of the tier) due to said exp and mastery of his hebi fighting style. Also the draw backs of the curse mark is way less than that of MS so he wouldn’t be getting fatigued or in pain like he was in the original fight.
Short version, I think hebi sasuke could still beat danzo in a high diff fight
Always a W when we collab 🔥 Gonna have to get another one in soon 🫡
Great takes on this video from you Sage 👏.
One take tho, about the colder sasuke chakra gets the stronger he gets I'd say his doujutsu gets stronger(far more impressive boost than physical at this point) and not his physical traits and this lines up with the emotional uchiha powerups(sharingan evolution)
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@@vaughnjackson6297 thanks brother!
23:48 totally agree but I would say Deidara would be able to dodge it based on reaction due to Chidori. Arrows would kill him unless you think Ohnoki's combat speed is faster than the arrow (it is not)
Great editing and interesting talking points, really thought you were a bigger channel instantly subbed.
Much appreciated! Love to hear it❤️
Bro put the L theme on when Sage was cooking lol.
Love it!
You already know! I always have to make my boys sound cool, check him out, seriously got some fire🔥🔥
MS Sasuke is stronger, faster, and has better hax
Hebi Sasuke is weaker, slower, but can fly and have poison immunity and regeneration.
And the body transformation
@@Virhtue yessir, that’s why he can fly
Nope
Hebi sasuke lebih banyak buff dan trik yang bisa digunakan, penguasaan sasuke pada segel kutukan dan gaya ular sudah sempurna, ketenangan sasuke juga luar biasa
Taka sasuke
- Kemampuan baru dimiliki dan belum sempurna
- susanoo tahap awal
- amaterasu
- tidak tenang sama sekali dan ceroboh
@@lah-kok-gituMs Sasuke > hebi Sasuke overall lol, jutsu hebi sasuke ngak bakal kepake buat lawan musuh tier kage
can’t wait to check this out virhtue x sage always goated‼️
You already know🔥
18:11 spittin knowledge
Curse mark influence would end in the Raikage's death imo.
The Hebi sasuke who would fight The Raikage would reasonably be much stronger than the version that fought Itachi.
In Addition, Hebi Sasuke is faster and stronger. At the absolute least while in cm2.
Cm2 improves the sharingan. Meaning he'd still posess powerful genjutsu and tracking ability much like MS.
The difference in the battle is simple.
Sasuke managed to barely pierce the raikage's chest in the manga, bout an inch or so. That means he already in canon pierced the armor and injured the Raikage
Whereas if in cm2 (Which he would reasonably use to boost attack against an obvious shield.) Hebi sasuke is considerably faster. This speed leads to more force in his jab which in turn means more penetration. Which is then compounded by having higher sttrength as well.
You then factor in his cm2 chakra amp. And even more importantly. His Sage Chakra. The sage chakra massively inproves the chidori's power and acts as a higher quality chakra that partially ignores the Raikage's normal chakra lightning cloak.
If the Hebi cm2 speed alone adds 50% force and by extension pen. And the strength adds 50% to that. The Raikage is already dead via heart rupture. The addition of sage and orochimaru's chakra's easily doubles penetration. Leading to the Raikage's heart being disintegrated by chidori.
So Sasuke kills the raikage with the initial chidori clash and does not get liger bombed.
Now. Obviously I wasn't actually counting Sasuke's experience and improvement. Additionally I was underestimating the curse mark and orochimaru's chakra affects.
Reasonably, this Sasuke has considerably more chakra and stamina than MS Sasuke. He's likely easily thrice the speed and strength of MS Sasuke while in CM2 and likely closer to 50%faster and stronger in base.
He's smarter and more observant in battle.
He's killed the Raikage early in the fight. Using less of his already larger chakra pool. He get's regened by Karin begore Gaara arrives.
Because he's considerably faster and stronger, with more chakra in addition to having orochimaru's nah I'm not dead jutsu.
He definitely either dodges (Faster and stronger, but also not injured or tired like MS was in canon) or Tanks the combined attack hit via snake summoning and then clones himself from a bloody pulp good as new to escape to the kage summit room.
In any case. Replace amaturasu with chidori senbon vs Gaara. His throw speed in cm2 and chakra improvements would make them comparable in speed anyhow. (Although due to being lightning chakra they may pierce Gaara's sand and hit him.)
Sasuke escapes after the explosion like in canon. (Or he fights them. But I see little reason for him to do this. If he does it can go either way. Since Sasuke's team is likely alright and backing him up and he's fast enough to potentially dodge and bridge the gap to gaara.)
He enters the kage meeting room in cm1 with considerably less injury and considerably more stamina. Clashes with samurai dude. Due to having a bunch of chakra. Being much stronger and faster especially in cm1 over base. And having some sage chakra. He cuts through Samurai dudes sword and kills him with a single strike.
Same shiz happens but only with his team backing him up (Recovered after killing raikage+guards. And way before Gaara shows up.) Ends up in room with Mizukage. Can't defend against acid. But can regen physically. Not to mention Orochimaru probably has acid resist jutsu's Sasuke can use.
Due to greater speed and chakra. He blitzes The mizukage and cuts her down after a bit of a fight. He's definitely hurt but heals himself. Zetsu shows up and heals/recharges Sasuke further.
Sasuke has more stamina and less injuries. Manages to fight Onoki for a while. (Could go either way. Due to Sauke's speed.) A few kage guards likely die before Obito steps in.
Sasuke fights Danzo for killing the Uchiha. Kills him via repeated blitzes and superior stamina before Karin is got.
Get's regenned. He and his team fight and Kill both Kakashi and Sakura before Naruto shows up.
Naruto goes rage mode, but is captured by Sasuke. Obito and team taka, or maybe they escape.
Finally, someone with actual reading comprehension.
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Sasuke fans doing everything they can to erase that loss B gave him😂
Tragic, Bee walked
Great video mayne💙
I gotta say mayne don't be afraid to state something you believe is true just have solid points to back it up and don't worry about backlash; its way more entertaining when you have hot takes for example hebi sasuke vs mei&gaara(crazy btw💙)
So if you don't mind continue making entertaining uchiha videos😂💙(I'm being serious )
So about Mei and gaara.. ain't no way hebi fucking sasuke is winning even one of them.At the time of the summit gaara and Mei are able to combat a madara lvl uchiha.This alone should prove that hebi sasuke is not beating Mei alone or gaara alone.
All love brother
Deidara definitely loses against summit sasuke but it’s important to note that his flight speed is way faster than himself and his c2 were catching up to sasuke meaning they were faster than his movement speed
Yeah that bombs explosive velocities present a speed greater than Deidara’s combat speed, and Sasuke’s combat speed aswell
Excellent video boys
Thanks 👍
You sure love this swapped fight typa style 😭 still Ur vids are peak like always
Glad you like them!
Wouldnt more chakra be better because they can do muscle enhancement by infusing chakra into their attacks?
Yeah in a sorts, however they can enhance their own cells which could be done easier if they had more dense chakra rather than a quantitative amount, however having more would be better for stamina, so it’s definitely a interesting conversation
There is no way how you can Scale Hebi Sasuke similar to KCM1 Naruto
A lot of people hold that idea
@@Virhtuethat's wild in a bad way, the show has shown simpler analogy and feats. Of course fans want to have their own headcannon for their characters
@21:21 Nahh who ever drew that panel knew what they was doin 😂
KS sasuke is superior to the version of Itachi that Hebi sasuke fought. None of Alive Itachi’s genjutsu is working on KS sasuke. Itachi’s amateratsu gets negged by sasukes flame control, and they are very comparable in stats based on sasukes feats vs Ay.
Realistically KS sasuke should win without much difficulty. Unrealisticly, if itachi grows straight for the susano/totsuka blade it’d be a high diff fight for MS sasuke. But that version of itachi really lacks stamina pretty severely. He used the susano as a last resort and it literally killed him. Like it or not KS sasuke had surpassed Itachi. At bare minimum the version of itachi that Hebi sasuke fought.
Just wondering is it possible for hebi sasuke to use that genjutsu he did in sai on danzo and in that chance cut off danzos hands or no just curious
Danzo is way stronger than Sai. Sasuke’s 3-tomoe sharingan level genjutsu wouldn’t work on the likes of Danzo.
15:15 That's a good catch!
Not sure why people don’t bring that up, I also had to make a comment in response to that chain scale
25:12 "arsenically"... baby just say arsenal-wise
I don’t even know if that’s a work I just needed something for lack of a better term
Bro, Hebi Sasuke has like two moves. Dude didn't have any techniques just like his homie Naruto.
Chidori
Chidori stream
Chidori senban
Chidori long sword
Kirin
Fireball justsu
Phenix flower justsu
Tiger flame bombs
Demon wind shuriken rigged to trap people
Snake substitution
Snake arms
Snake summoning
Demon shackle genjustsu
Other high level genjustu enough to basically mind control people
His leaf cutter sword with lightning running through it.
Wires that can be flammable
Summoning shurkien
Hebi sasuke has as many moves as MS sasuke except MS sasuke has the additions of amaterasu, enton release, and susanoo. But MS sasuke loses snake rebirth and curse mark(v1 and v2) and last ditch hydra summoning. So it essentially evens out in terms of numbers.
Hebi’s arsenal is actually really good
MS sasuke has 2 moves.He threw the others away lol.
@@Archer170and it was stronger, what's the point of the substitution jutsu if it cost most of his chakra anyway. Most of hebi sasuke skillset werent use cuz it's not gonna do anything to the raikage
11:36 he didn't kill them it wasn't necessary he says as much
Edit: could be wrong
Gaara and May beating the piss outta Hebi Sasuke
Love to hear that
@@Virhtue😂😂😂
The colder and thicker comment does correlate to strength imo. Hatred amps Uchiha, thicker means his chakra mass is more intense than before.
It does indeed
Sasuke hebi memiliki banyak trik
- kecepatan lebih tinggi
- segel terkutuk
- gaya ular
Namun itu belum cukup untuk melawan ninja rank kage seperti A dan gara bahkan darui
Sasuke taka
- susanoo tahap awal
- amaterasu
Namun : kecepatan menurun, daya tahan ular + buff segel hilang
Sasuke taka memiliki potensi lebih tinggi yang terus menguat saat itu.
Sasuke hebi sudah dikuasai sepenuhnya
- Potensi hebi power 100
- Potensi taka power 80 dan terus menguat hingga 120
Yep, kalo kata gw gaje yg pada bilang hebi sasuke bisa ngalahin raikage... potensi menangan taka sasuke karena punya ms
Hebi Sasuke is stronger, faster more durable has regen and can ignore death via Orochimaru's jutsu.
His Chidori is infused with Senjutsu adding superiority when compared to average lightning jutsu.
Before even using Susano'o Taka Sasuke stabbed into the Raikages chest.
With the added speed and strength of the Curse mark and the empowerment of his jutsu via semi sage mode. Such a stab would have pierced the raikages heart and killed him.
Considering practically, all of the resistance came from the Raikages Lightning cloak and he was stabbed in canon. Hebi Sasuke's added strength alone would lead to a kill shot as there would be no remaining resistance against all that extra force. Nevermind Senjutsu empowerment reducing the effectiveness of the cloak and empowering the stab.
The edo would know how to deal with Sasuno, also, amateratsu can be sealed. Tobirama also has flying thunder god, and Sasuke can only lean on those abilities so much before a wince from pain gets him killed.
Not the Tobirama that Orochimaru summoned as Oro was not as good with the edo tensei as Kabuto and the Hokages he summoned were extremely nerfed.
He never used it in that form and if you have seen my thorough explanations on it, his speed couldn’t reach the threshold to move through the bridge. Unless you believe this Tobirama is greater than a War Arc Tobirama Clone?
@@Virhtue we don’t see him use it, but that doesn’t mean he can’t. He was fighting with hashirama and orochimaru, he likely went with most effective strategy.
Does hebi sasuke have manda cause they are relative to gamabunta might just solo
True, Gamabunta + oil + TG >> Naruto Shippuden
@@Virhtue + Hawz makes it unstoppable
True this would be extremely helpful against danzo since hebi sasuke wouldn't have to worry about wasteing chakra on danzo summons not to mention that manda can protect sasuke from danzo wind style attacks making it easier for danzo to slip up.
The hebi Sasuke downplay is crazy against Danzo lol. Of course hebi Sasuke got a lot to take down Danzo if a shuriken can take down Danzo. He can probably blitz Danzo a couple of times and just take him down with his speed like he almost did with Deidara. The first Izanagi spawn attack would definitely be an issue as it will take almost everyone by surprise but Sasuke has the sharingan precog and could probably sense his attack at the last minute. If not, he has the Orochimaru substitution that can get him out of the situation. After the first few Izanagi, Sasuke will definitely figure out how it works. Manda can take on the Baku as well. Danzo only blitz Sasuke at the end because Sasuke had no sharingan active and was fatigued due to his MS spamming and he’s definitely not blitzing hebi Sasuke at full stamina. Danzo could still win because Itachi said Sasuke was lucky to survive the Izanagi but it won’t be as easy for sure.
Summit sasuke beats hebi sasuke taka sasuke beats hebi sasuke hebi sasuke is the weakest because he has no ms ability’s you need ms ablitys sage mode or kyubi chakra or kage lvl strength to survive
I will say; I think Hebi and Taka are quite comparable
you post so fast after your polls bro
As in which pole?!😭
@@Virhtue all of them
No killer bee matchup??
It's still a loss. Especially without his team.
Lol Saskue gets cooked badly that’s why
Nope, that’s Taka
That’s not 5 Kage summit Sasuke. Completely different form of Sasuke.
That deserves its own video. 5KS Sasuke would do a lot better.
Another example of chakra not meaning power or speed hashirama said Naruto had close to his chakra but admitted he was faster and doing better on madera so yea
Yeah exactly it is more of the qualities that matter
Sasuke doesn’t have MS level genjutu in Heavy. Fire video but that whole section even if you’re being charitable is just cap. It’s not narratively implied and then it’s more blatant where the Tsukyomi scales as it takes EMS level genjutsu to rival it. So a Mastered 3T Sharingan plus unquantifiable CM2 amp doesn’t equal EMS Genjutsu. Bro couldn’t even genjutsu the Raikage with his Genjutsu and even if you argue it’s because he doesn’t have the unquantifiable CM2 amp then that just goes to show how absurd the claim even is. Because if Sharingan Sasuke’s gen is comparable enough to Itachi’s that some unquantifiable amp can close the distance why wouldn’t a Sasuke with stronger visual prowess only scale closer even without amps. The theory debunks itself and even being charitable it’s a bit absurd to list as a possibility.
Fireball technique is crazy
Itachi’s is even crazier
He didn’t stop it with shuriken, minato was in the stomach of the shinagami. So it wasn’t going to work in the first place. 13:56
Yeah it wasn’t going to work just do to how the seal worked, I think Sage was arguing the coffin itself was stopped
Random thought: Izuna has Amaterasu or some other similar blaze release ability
Why does Izuna have that?
@@Virhtue technically it’s between Madara, kagame, or Izuna.
Those are the only people who had the MS in 2nds lifetime.
Unless it’s filler to the manga, (don’t remember)
He said he has never seen a blaze release of that size before. That insinuates he has seen it personally before.
Doubt that it’s Madara(but possible)
So it comes down to Izuna or Kagame.
Going back through today to check every reference when amat was used to see if there is any evidence.
Personal hypothesis-Izuna and Madara are related to Sasuke through his mother linage, getting Amaterasu, and inherited ty from wicked eye fugaku.
Let me know what you think
Does Hebi Sasuke really have a lot of options against Danzo? He had to rely on his Amaterasu to stop his summons
Yeah, that’s the problem he doesn’t have much to do
@@Virhtue Danzo beat Hebi Sasuke
A and Bee washing Hebi Sasuke
We did not include the Bee fight
Deidara is SUPER underrated.
His fight against sasuke somehow caused the majority of the fandom to underrate both of them 😂
That’s my next video!
Day 2 of asking can you make a what if video on if the uchiha weren’t massacred
Well this isn’t my type of content and I don’t want to ignore you, as I do try to get to every comment. If the Uchiha Weren’t Massacred? Well that’s actually rather simple and is answered for us by Obito explaining Itachi’s why on the choice to slighter his family, which is supported by the second Itachi Shinden novel. Essentially, if the Uchiha weren’t killed by Itachi, a massive War would have broken out against the entire Hidden leaf in an attempt for a Coup De Tat. The war would of been so bad that one of the other five great nations would of came and conquered it, seeing as the Cloud village holds the greatest power stats behind the Leaf, it would probably be the Cloud Taking over the Land of Fire and that’s about it.
I could make a video discussing like Itachi, Shisui and Fugaku vs Hiruzen and the sannin for like a faction vs faction matchup?
@@Virhtue you are a legend thanks for answering. That match up vid would be good but obviously no rush on postin
Can the totsuka blade go through Sasuke susano? I was thinking it's AP is regular like every susano blade with sealing abilities.
Yes it could, the Totsuka blade is lacking a material form and has no mass so it would just move straight through it
@@Virhtue damn
MS Kage Summit Sasuke > 3 Tomoe Kage Summit Sasuke = CM2 Orochimaru Absorbed Sasuke
Interesting
Hebi Sasuke Supremacy 🔥🔥🔥
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Sasuke(hebi) Don't have amaterasu why u keep saying he does when that iteration of sasuke never has it after he defeated itachi he turn into sasuke( thetaka)
Imagine if Hebi Sasuke can use Izanami against Danzo...
Would be interesting for sure
Where is the clip at 4:03 from?
I can’t see the timestamp but it’s probably the Naruto mobile game cutscene
24:55 C3?
Sorry 19:45 tuned me out. curse mark 2 stands no chance against even v1 Ay
Why’s that?
Wait he cant edo the hokage I thought sense they were all trapped at the time
He can’t revive Minato bc he is trapped but Tobirama and Hashirama he just does it because they died in battle
@@Virhtue though the hokage all got sealed in part 1. I started under standing y'all's fight layouts giving characters more options just to be generous. I was confused as heck while cutting grass earlier.
Hiruzen didn’t stop the reanimate with shuriken he used earth style to pull it back down 💀
It was pulled back on its own aswell
when hiruzen threw the shirt\uriken he was trynna stab orochimaru since he was doing hand signs just trynna make it clear this man hiruzen didn't stop reanimation with basic ninja tools 😭@@Virhtue
@@memmalatelmorganii7779 I never said that
you said that hiruzen stopped the 4th hokage's coffin from rising just using shirunken @@Virhtue
@@memmalatelmorganii7779 wasn’t me
Hebi Sasuke is not beating Mei and especially not Gaara😭
Definitely arguable
Honestly you guys overestimate sasuke. Hebi sasuke isn't beating two kaga at the same time. I doubt he can beat them one on one
Hebi Sasuke is definitely beating Mei lol and Sasuke can easy hold his own against Gaara as he still has the Lee speed he copied and Gaara's sand can't cope with that speed and the chidori does well against Gaara's sand as we've seen in part 1.
Why so?
@@OddEyes1gaara sand intercepted v2 raikage who is leagues above hebi sasuke in speed
Hebi Sasuke’s physical capabilities should be stronger than Taka Sasuke. FKS Sasuke on the other hand, I’m not so sure.
Very true, Summit > Hebi > Taka
It is also stated the Sharingan directly translates emotions into strength, rather than just ability.
The Sannin are stronger than individual Gokage, so even if Sasuke is stronger, it does not mean he is on the Sannin level, yet.
Danzō, who is self-admitted inferior to Hiruzen, was able to break through the humanoid Susanoo using a combination Wind Release attack. Sasuke cannot use the Armored Susanoo for any significant period of time since he would just go blind afterwards. If Orochimaru is just outright stronger than Danzō off of his potential reactivity to Hiruzen, then his full power Great Breakthrough might be enough to break through it.
Amaterasu is shown to keep burning an Amaterasu through Nagato who needed to Shinra Tensei the flames off. Albeit, Orochimaru might be able to seal the flames like Jiraiya.
The shuriken did not stop the coffins. Hiruzen somehow stopped it with an unnamed jutsu. Orochimaru used the coffins as shields against the shurikens.
Genjutsu would likely be enough. Special note that Orochimaru might be able to use the Eight Branches to potentially overwhelm Sasuke alongside his Edo Tensei, though.
Sasuke's Sharingan is far less developed in Hebi in general due to his lacking emotional development/hatred. That might counteract the benefits of the Cursed Seal of Heaven, even beyond the fact he cannot actually move.
Tobi immediately warns Deidara that Sasuke's Body Flicker makes him too fast after the slash, which is corroborated by Sha no Sho. Yes, it was a Body Flicker slash.
Mei's Lava Release was able to move at a rate comparable to A against Madara, and Madara complimented both therein. The Guillotine Drop is noted to be lightning speed fast in Jin no Sho, suggesting its speed is not far off from the rest of his nintaijutsu. A's foot was almost tangent with Amaterasu before the sand got in the way, as well (albeit, I agree the exact timing is up for debate).
Gaara's sand in sufficient volume was able to block C3 which likely has superior attack potency to C2, which was superior to Sasuke's durability in Version 2, and could also block Amaterasu. Nothing really indicates that Sasuke could pierce it by that point (the sand is not actually Earth Release, and thus it does not suffer a weakness to Lightning Release). Gaara and Mei could also just isolate Sasuke/keep him at bay whilst he slowly melts to death, doubly so when Gaara can fly, and it seems unlikely Sasuke could keep up whilst Gaara and Mei are shooting at him/he is melting.
Sasuke does not know the full details of the Blade of Totsuka since he was unconscious for when it was used.
I think it with A, the Amaterasu tried to appear on him but before it could the target was out of view causing it instead appear on the person behind him. Same end-point, though. I doubt it could phase through the Susanoo, at any rate.
Danzō has ten Sharingan on his arm, and the one in his eye. Not twelve.
Hebi Sasuke can use snakes as shields which he used to block C1 and C0. He might already have Aoda at this point who is comparable to Manda who is equal to or greater than Gamabunta who could hold off Shukaku and briefly held down Kurama. Not that I think it would be enough, in the end, but it is an additional defensive option.
I think hebi sasuke loses to mei and gaara
I mean I think there is definitely a case for it, but what’s your reason perhaps?
@@Virhtue i dont believe gaara sand is blitz hebi but i do believe his sand can keep up and another thing is it mei and gaara as a team or like a gauntlet style if so i agree sasuke win da ones
Raikage beat Hebi Sasuke
Why so
@@Virhtue you just a sasuketard if you think hebi sasuke beat raikage this version of him isn’t strong at all he is strong but not strong at all Sasuke is one of my favourite characters but stop defending sasuke
Danzo claps so ez
I’ve gotten a lot of mixed opinions on Danzo, may have to make a video about him
sasuke is so weak it’s sad
hebi sasuke is beating danzo
Why so?
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Danzo was killed by MS Sasuke surprising him with shuriken.
Hebi Sasuke was far more versatile and creative than MS Sasuke because MS is a completely different kit that’s not really conducive to out of the box thinking. MS abilities benefit more from overwhelming your opponent with brute force and instant kills, ending the fight asap.
Susanoo keeps him rooted, and it is a massive chakra drain, and Amaterasu strains his eyes so much that I’m pretty sure THAT is the reason Danzo managed to get past him to take Karin hostage. Danzo said so himself that Sasuke’s used his eyes too much. Susanoo and Amaterasu for a stamina battle is a big mistake.
Hebi Sasuke’s Chidori variants aren’t nearly as exhaustive as keeping Susanoo up, and they are just as lethal. Chidori Senbon for long range kills, Chidori Sharp Spear for mid range, and Chidori Stream for when Danzo gets too close.
Sasuke can also summon snakes to tank explosions from Deidara. He can also summon/reverse summon to escape explosions within less than seconds. He can easily do the same thing to escape Danzo’s vacuum attack.
Hebi Sasuke’s genjutsu prowess is just as impressive and subtle as MS Sasuke, given how Orochimaru’s jutsu is reversed with it, Deidara’s trained eye still loses to it, and he breaks through Itachi’s Tsukuyomi.
And Izanagi is a time limited jutsu, not a limited respawn jutsu. He doesn’t have 12 lives (counting Shisui’s eye). He has infinite lives for 10 minutes.
I’d argue that Hebi Sasuke is way more likely to survive a 10 minute fight and finish Danzo off with a Kirin after they both exhausted all their chakra, and Kirin is a free shot he can fire without chakra.
@@SydCar facts. Summit Sasuke was way too wasteful and was spamming his MS for no reason as you don't need the Susanoo to kill Danzo when he died to a shuriken. Hebi Sasuke would be more tactical and smart about it and wouldn't be as exhausted.
@@OddEyes1 Yup. That’s a huge bonus for Hebi Sasuke. He was calm, extremely analytical, and very forward thinking. MS Sasuke was too angry and full of hatred to think straight. MS Sasuke is still smart, but not nearly as impressive as Hebi Sasuke.
The key to defeating Danzo was pressing him to use up all his time. If even shuriken damage is something Danzo would rewrite, he clearly relies on Izanagi too much. Hebi Sasuke would’ve exploited the hell out of that.
I also think that there isn’t really a major advantage stat-wise between Hebi and MS. MS Sasuke is getting more intense and powerful chakra because of his hatred growing.
But Hebi Sasuke is hateful too. Just not as angry. Hebi Sasuke still hated Itachi, and he’d hate the f*ck out of Danzo for having those Sharingan in his arm. Uchiha gain more power from hatred regardless of if they have MS or not.
Hebi Sasuke’s hatred will grow in the fight against Danzo, same as MS Sasuke’s did. Plus he’ll still have CM2 for extra amps.
@@SydCar Hebi Sasuke had hatred but wouldn't let it cloud him into being reckless in a fight. Itachi was goading him throughout their fight talking about using him as a spare and Sasuke was still able to plot out his strategy to set up Kirin. That's the main difference between him and summit Sasuke.