Oh but don’t worry, shaheen can do what lee used to and even get a float combo out of it. But I ain’t worried bout that cuz seeing a shaheen in tekken 8 will be as rare as a unicorn.
I wish perfect inputs weren’t mash friendly in heat but I do like how you’re still rewarded for the perfect timing anyway. The audio cues letting you know if you did it right is a genius idea.
I think it’s good for casuals. I’d rather the casuals still get something for mashing, and THEN also get something more for great execution. Rather than getting nothing until they’re good enough.
It was obvious that this was going to be the case since they basically did that with electrics as well. It's OK because good players will enjoy the reward of being able to do these moves with or without heat
BROOOOOOO THAT FIRST COMBO, YOU HAVE SOLD IT WELL. Thank you so much for covering Lee Chaolan - Edit: I believe b+3 you mean b+3+4 ff+3 was -11 in previous games, so it being -9 makes sense (a good buff I've been longing for tbh).
With 10 frame heat smashes on some characters with hella range, it definitely needed to be brought down to -9. I wonder if they did the same with his f2,1 (though that's always been duckable anyway)
Not really due to the fact that with +3 he can mash which plays into counter hitting,Lee's strength.I can ALMOST guarantee you Fighting GM and imyourfather are gonna use the HELL out of that mix still.And we still havent seen it on counter hit either so theres that.
@@zeokenx2 On CH it knocks down which guarantees Silver Tail (FC df+4) for some 40+ damage which is pretty chunky. Who knows, it may guarantee more things other than Silver Tail so i'm excited to find out.
My second fav characters looking fire and hella fun to play with the fresh new voice too mmmm we Lee fans seem to ne eating good using him on t8 Thanks for the breakdown
I've heard that magic 4,4 has slower recovery for combos and B1 can't connect. TMM didn't try other potential pickups but I'm thinking nothing else works. I'd imagine they really want you to commit to 4,3,4 for a launch off of a magic 4. Lee is looking amazing in this game so I'm looking forward to picking him up
I wonder if Lee spaces his slide enough, he can get followups off of it? I noticed it's +3 at point blank, and on block it can be -15 at point blank down to -9 in the video. If it's possible to be spaced just a bit further that means it would be +10 on hit which could be pretty wild. Heck maybe even he could get +11 into his 444 heat engager which would be WILD.
I love the new just frames...but i really wish they implement violet version of acid rain on ws so he could at least have a ws launcher or a 10 frame acid rain on crouch which would make him more interesting in my opinion..
Hes about class and style. But hes also a wrspins manufacturer like Tony Stark and Tony Stark is obssessed with style. The armor build on the lore they shouldve bee. Capitslizing on since T4 imo. I like his new design but im definitely gonna change his colors around.
I used to main Lee all the time in every Tekken alongside Ling. Im really considering maining him in 8, he sounds and looks 10x hotter and his moves look even deadlier. Im hyped!
I'm so happy, they did my boy good. I did notice tho that hms 4 doesn't knockdown on normal hit anymore which is crazy, being a snake edge that only launches on ch was already pretty bad but you at least got good oki on normal hit. Now it seems completely useless lol
The only character that requires more executions than he was in Tekken 7. I wouldn't say that Kazuya or Steve goes full T8 Jin but their executions are somewhat toned down. At least when compared to T7.
You also did not check if his WS 2 3 launches or not as he doesn't have a 15 frame WS launcher in T8. The slide nerf is not good. It should be minus 13 and nothing more if they are gonna change it's animation. Slide was backbone of his game.
Yeah, it is a rather crucial nerf. But calling it "Backbone of his game" is a little bit of an exageration imo. Made it to True Tekken God almost without using it at all.
@@zesor6510 at a high level against pro players, getting close for his CH game gets rather challenging. I was always a big fan of help me and he played the best Lee ever. He utilized slide mix up all the time to create frame traps, launches etc. I understand, he can be played without it but in my experience, it forces the most defensive players to freeze up and sometimes press buttons. So you can do a slide fake and immediately harras them with b4 or 1+2 and stuff. The slide will freeze them and then you have them.
@@mikamoschella3410 buffering is inconsistent and crouch canceling like that can be done only by a computer lol. That's like saying you can land Lei wulongs f n 4 1 2 frame accurate on a - 10 punishable move. Crouch canceling takes away a frame no matter how fast you do it. I've tested all that stuff in practice mode. The best way is sliding back and doing hopkick and hoping you did it fast enough. My point still stands, he was needlessly nerfed in T7 and even more so in T8.
He is one of the few content creator that got an invitation to check Tk8 ealry.I think that markman, justin wong, rip , max (probably?)and other got invited too.
headcannon: i like his armor cuz it looks corny as hell but he THINKS hes better than everyone else cuz these peasants couldnt afford the R&D to create a set for themselves but but he still takes just as much damage in a fight :D
The voice is what made Lee in the earlier ones. This feels like a different voice actor, or the same but asked them to change approach which... its not the same. That and the robot suit, like "C'mon" not the same Lee. 😂
his slide being gutted is going to impact lee a lot
Oh but don’t worry, shaheen can do what lee used to and even get a float combo out of it. But I ain’t worried bout that cuz seeing a shaheen in tekken 8 will be as rare as a unicorn.
Idk I find it much more useful
I wish perfect inputs weren’t mash friendly in heat but I do like how you’re still rewarded for the perfect timing anyway. The audio cues letting you know if you did it right is a genius idea.
Lee is the antithesis to mashing, I mash everyone's combos except for Lee
I think it’s good for casuals. I’d rather the casuals still get something for mashing, and THEN also get something more for great execution.
Rather than getting nothing until they’re good enough.
correct me if I'm wrong but I think that audio feedback on just frames were introduced on tekken 4. don't know why they dropped it lol
It was obvious that this was going to be the case since they basically did that with electrics as well. It's OK because good players will enjoy the reward of being able to do these moves with or without heat
In heat: receptive to mating.
Lee: "Hey, Hachi."
Right over there is the door. Get out.
Slick Lee~🤣🤣
I can die happy. They found a way to make my boy even more EXERRENT
Love the videos mate. Oddly enough, the thing that has got me the most hype is the return of cool asf classic style Tekken stages!!
as a lee main since tekken 5, im looking forward to getting back to playing him
I didn't expect to see the breakdown before the gameplay trailer. Thanks for this!!! ❤
Jack-8 throwing Alisa's head back to her made me laugh hard.
Let’s go! Some Lee footage!!
Bro u showed so much with lee this might as well be the character trailer, good shit 🔥🔥👌🏼
BROOOOOOO THAT FIRST COMBO, YOU HAVE SOLD IT WELL. Thank you so much for covering Lee Chaolan - Edit: I believe b+3 you mean b+3+4
ff+3 was -11 in previous games, so it being -9 makes sense (a good buff I've been longing for tbh).
With 10 frame heat smashes on some characters with hella range, it definitely needed to be brought down to -9.
I wonder if they did the same with his f2,1 (though that's always been duckable anyway)
I actually know about the speed of heat smashes, that does make sense I suppose@@mikamoschella3410
Those slide nerfs are HUGE for lee tho makes his mixups way harder
Not really due to the fact that with +3 he can mash which plays into counter hitting,Lee's strength.I can ALMOST guarantee you Fighting GM and imyourfather are gonna use the HELL out of that mix still.And we still havent seen it on counter hit either so theres that.
@@zeokenx2 On CH it knocks down which guarantees Silver Tail (FC df+4) for some 40+ damage which is pretty chunky. Who knows, it may guarantee more things other than Silver Tail so i'm excited to find out.
2:31 IKR 😩😩
Thx i needed this🎉
My second fav characters looking fire and hella fun to play with the fresh new voice too mmmm we Lee fans seem to ne eating good using him on t8
Thanks for the breakdown
love your Breakdown dude. :D
Fantastic overview! I wuz sweating bullets for some month. Lee players are saved! Thank the Lord
Rocking the awesome military suit and has some more stylish moves... excellent!
Drag and lee both look sick and im ready!!!!
You’re almost there to 100k 👍
This video is BRILLIANT!!!!!!
THANK YOU
I love this man
Looks Marvelous
fianlly some lee gameplay thank you
I love how they've really leaned into the goofy voice lines with Lee lol. Might get annoying after a while though
That last part...what happened LOL
LOL THE VOICE! IM DEFINITELY PLAYING LEE TOO!
I've heard that magic 4,4 has slower recovery for combos and B1 can't connect. TMM didn't try other potential pickups but I'm thinking nothing else works. I'd imagine they really want you to commit to 4,3,4 for a launch off of a magic 4. Lee is looking amazing in this game so I'm looking forward to picking him up
I agree. Lee looks like he's geared up to play with the purple cobras
And i was thinking about lee making an hehiachi bot ,but looks like he invested all his time making this suit
Lmao that end sequence
Lee right now at WAR! Of course he will be in armour
I wonder if Lee spaces his slide enough, he can get followups off of it?
I noticed it's +3 at point blank, and on block it can be -15 at point blank down to -9 in the video. If it's possible to be spaced just a bit further that means it would be +10 on hit which could be pretty wild.
Heck maybe even he could get +11 into his 444 heat engager which would be WILD.
I love the new just frames...but i really wish they implement violet version of acid rain on ws so he could at least have a ws launcher or a 10 frame acid rain on crouch which would make him more interesting in my opinion..
They also buffed Alisa's jiggle
still the coolest and classy fighter in the rooster, he is like the Dante of tekken
Alisa Jack intro tho.
Hes about class and style. But hes also a wrspins manufacturer like Tony Stark and Tony Stark is obssessed with style. The armor build on the lore they shouldve bee. Capitslizing on since T4 imo. I like his new design but im definitely gonna change his colors around.
Nice costume bro
Aw man hope we get a Lee trailer still
MARVALLOUS
I used to main Lee all the time in every Tekken alongside Ling. Im really considering maining him in 8, he sounds and looks 10x hotter and his moves look even deadlier. Im hyped!
this is 400% better then having to wait for a lee trailer, really wasnt expecting this
Yes this answered so many burning questions I had! Now I am more excited than ever he looks MARVELOUS!!
I am going to miss his slide, I know it's still there but it won't be the same...
Nice lee
Tekken content creators and enjoyers eating good today, got damn!
Wow, they actually changed Lee's slide animation! It's been the same since Tekken 1.
dude i love the voice lines
gotta play lee just to hear "great" "excellent" "brilliant"
i like that you can get combo off of ub3 without rage drive
The imyourfather streams are gonna be fire
Lee 🥲🔥♥️
I'm so happy, they did my boy good. I did notice tho that hms 4 doesn't knockdown on normal hit anymore which is crazy, being a snake edge that only launches on ch was already pretty bad but you at least got good oki on normal hit. Now it seems completely useless lol
U can combo off from hms4 normal hit on male characters and being off axis makes it even easier!
@@truonggiangngo6512good info thank you!
Honestly I'm just happy he's back, it didn't look like he was going to be at first
That rage art granade looks like that combot's head from TT2
That's the point.
My best character in tekken. now i have to buy tekken 8
finally ff+3 safe to spam at the wall
The slide 😭 now i cant troll with full crouch dashes lol
BRIRRIANT caught me off guard bro 😭😭😭😭
They should've gotten him a teched up tuxedo
I like how theyre really giving the characters more personality as lee is the Tekken character with the most funniest shrieks like in 0:32
He damn near sounds like frieza there
The only character that requires more executions than he was in Tekken 7.
I wouldn't say that Kazuya or Steve goes full T8 Jin but their executions are somewhat toned down. At least when compared to T7.
Alisha really got huge upgrades, look the jiggle 0:49 to 0:52
You also did not check if his WS 2 3 launches or not as he doesn't have a 15 frame WS launcher in T8.
The slide nerf is not good. It should be minus 13 and nothing more if they are gonna change it's animation. Slide was backbone of his game.
Yeah, it is a rather crucial nerf. But calling it "Backbone of his game" is a little bit of an exageration imo. Made it to True Tekken God almost without using it at all.
@@zesor6510 at a high level against pro players, getting close for his CH game gets rather challenging. I was always a big fan of help me and he played the best Lee ever. He utilized slide mix up all the time to create frame traps, launches etc. I understand, he can be played without it but in my experience, it forces the most defensive players to freeze up and sometimes press buttons. So you can do a slide fake and immediately harras them with b4 or 1+2 and stuff. The slide will freeze them and then you have them.
He can hopkick out of crouch in T7 by either buffering the move or by doing u,uf4 out of crouch.
I imagine jump tweening works the same way in T8.
You don’t play Lee 😂
@@mikamoschella3410 buffering is inconsistent and crouch canceling like that can be done only by a computer lol. That's like saying you can land Lei wulongs f n 4 1 2 frame accurate on a - 10 punishable move. Crouch canceling takes away a frame no matter how fast you do it. I've tested all that stuff in practice mode. The best way is sliding back and doing hopkick and hoping you did it fast enough. My point still stands, he was needlessly nerfed in T7 and even more so in T8.
RIP tekken 7 slide 😔
HO~IT!!!!
Do king
hello I wanted to know if lee's frames are very hard to do in tekken 8 please
MARVELLOUS. But does he use any of his new tech in his moves?
Feels like Lee but some of these changes are not good. Risk reward is just meh. Slide is too changed and is a LOT worse.
What's the new input of his old B+3 3? He has a new move from B+3 right?
czcams.com/video/9BRwipZIMEo/video.htmlsi=jPgs4o6RCv9RAbxo&t=177
b3,3 is the same.
i see they upped jiggle physics, cuz the slightest touch on alisa and she was shaking like a salt shaker
Speaking of which, why does an android have jiggle physics anyway?
@@JunKazamaFanDr Bosconovich is a based man
@@EnergyTKa true genius!
Im just grateful they didnt give my mans gun moves
Please please go over yoshi
Bro did he do a Genocide Cutter?!?!?!
1:18
Shame they completely removed his high backflip and only kept the falling version.
ZE END
Listen...
Knowing that Lee rewards you for just frame inputs by saying EXCELLENT
MARVELOUS
is all I need to pick him up
uhhhh can someone explain?
he can play Lee already but Lee don't have trailer yet??
thanks for the breakdown, stage is cool for sure but not impressed with gameplay changes. Seems to be a common theme
Why so LITTLE changes to him? (in gameplay wise)
Because he's already perfect c:
Hmm, mb u kinda right XD@@Alsry1
I've noticed that b+3 is a right kick move. That doesn't make any sense 😔
highkick combo is alive??
As main lee chaolan the slide is really I'm not gonna used a lot.
His voice changed too i don't really like it
Hitman stance?
b3 looks like it was ripped straight from Claudio
and they said law had unconventional battle cries...
Why the hell does mister tea have this shit but Bandai Namco doesn't have this on their channel
4 plus 5 plus 3 plus 2 plus 2 minus 2 plus3 minus 2 yeah waffle on mate
How the hell you played the game so early? We just have 4 char i wanna play with lee
it's so over
How did you get that, there wasn't even a Lee trailer yet?
He is one of the few content creator that got an invitation to check Tk8 ealry.I think that markman, justin wong, rip , max (probably?)and other got invited too.
Where....black tuxedo😢😢😢😂
Yos
headcannon:
i like his armor cuz it looks corny as hell
but he THINKS hes better than everyone else cuz these peasants couldnt afford the R&D to create a set for themselves
but but he still takes just as much damage in a fight :D
The voice is what made Lee in the earlier ones. This feels like a different voice actor, or the same but asked them to change approach which... its not the same. That and the robot suit, like "C'mon" not the same Lee. 😂
Its still the same, i think he just got older and cant do the high pitched voice anymore
As long as he's flamboyant then idc its still Lee
new acid storm animation is a downgrade for sure
slide as well
First one here
Not really a fan of the new voice, just been partial to the previous one since 5
I hate his new battle armour