Why NY's Lost West Side Elevated Highway Collapsed

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    Chapters:
    00:00 - The West Side Elevated Highway
    00:48 - How Street Level Railways menaced NYC
    01:48 - Proposals to alleviate NYC of it’s street-level railways
    02:44 - Julius Miller’s controversial plan for the West Side Elevated Highway
    05:53 - When NYC approved the West Side Elevated Highway
    10:09 - How the West Side Elevated Highway devastated NY’s city markets
    11:21 - Why New Yorkers opposed the West Side Elevated Highway
    11:39 - How poor maintenance led to the collapse of New York’s West Side elevated highway
    15:38 - Demolition of New York’s West Side Elevated Highway
    18:04 - New York’s West Side Highway in Modern History
    19:25 - What’s Left of New York’s West Side Elevated Highway?
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Komentáře • 328

  • @yogitam2372
    @yogitam2372 Před 9 měsíci +70

    It was 1978 and I was 12 at the time. Being a kid from Chinatown, I rode my bicycle everywhere in lower Manhattan. That day, it was my friends and I "discovered" the West Side Highway. We were riding around the Twin Towers area and someone saw a person walking down one of the exit ramps so we rode our bicycles up. When we got to the top, it was like we found paradise. We saw people walking, roller blading, and other bikers. That was great for us kids as we can now ride fast without the fear of getting hit by cars. We always returned to this part of it where we rode up to 20th street where the road was closed. For some reason, we never got out and went to the northern side. Maybe it was because we didn't want to venture too far from our home. Great memories!

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo Před 9 měsíci +107

    By the late 1970s, the highway was closed to traffic, but people were able to walk up the ramps and get great views of the Hudson. The surface of the highway became canvases for many artists. I remember walking on giant abstract murals painted on the concrete. The elevated highway was a great spot from which to see fireworks and boats on July 4th. People at the time seemed unconcerned with whether the highway was safe, as we jammed ourselves up there to get good views.

    • @demetrialaird937
      @demetrialaird937 Před 8 měsíci

      I remember looking down from the World Trade Center at the West Side Highway which was covered in artwork, pedestrians and joggers. Quite a sight.

  • @jerrycomo2736
    @jerrycomo2736 Před 9 měsíci +235

    I liked riding on the West Side Highway as a kid. Being elevated, it gave me a better view of the ships docked to the west and I was able to peep into windows of apartments as we sped by to the east. But most importantly, we avoided the dystopian streets of the west side of Manhattan at that time. And I viewed riding over potholes, dips, curves, etc. similar to riding a rollercoaster. It was a cool ride on our way the George Washington Bridge.

    • @popcorn8153
      @popcorn8153 Před 9 měsíci +33

      its wild how the freeway itself created the dystopia you were avoiding, kind of like how cities destroyed themselves trying to be car centric.

    • @mikemancini313
      @mikemancini313 Před 9 měsíci +13

      SS Normandie burned and sank on those piers in 1942. 1000s of cars could see it from West Side Highway.

    • @if6was929
      @if6was929 Před 9 měsíci +9

      I too remember looking at the buildings, apartments, warehouses and ships as my father drove on the West Side Hwy. I always wondered what was behind those windows.

    • @robertgandler3177
      @robertgandler3177 Před 9 měsíci +4

      I remember going with my parents like yesterday even though it collapsed 50 years ago. I enjoyed the scenic ride!

    • @gilbertoquinones3392
      @gilbertoquinones3392 Před 8 měsíci

      I remember my grandma and me seeing freight cars going through tunnels over in Hell's kitchen. For us it was a connection to the Bronx when moved in the late 50's.

  • @hughgran
    @hughgran Před 9 měsíci +43

    As kids, we used to play on that when it was abandoned. It was like a playground for adolescent New York kids, not just vagrants and squatters. It was a great time to come of age and witness the transformation of the city. We really had one foot in the past, and the future at the same time. Thanks for the video.

  • @KabukeeJo
    @KabukeeJo Před 9 měsíci +67

    NYC was always known for being very neglectful of its infrastructure. I remember the rust holes in the steel girders of bridges being shown on the news during the 80's. So it's no surprise that highway was left to rot until it collapsed.

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I remember! I was a bridge maintenance engineer for the Massachusetts State Highway Department in Boston and I had the luck to work with one of the painting contractors who were also painting one of those NY bridges. When the contractor's super told me of his company's crew blasting holes through the steel beams right when subway trains were passing by, I was amazed, shocked and appalled. Amazed that the steel beams held under the weight of the trains, shocked that the subways weren't suspended for the duration of the painting job, and appalled that the city had let the bridge go to rot for so long.

    • @Thebrothaisback
      @Thebrothaisback Před 9 měsíci +6

      NYC could look really spectacular if they only painted the bridges...

    • @2aj.
      @2aj. Před 9 měsíci +3

      yeah they just added new fancy subway cars with screens and 1 less seat per row and the stations look terrible and havent been changed in a century and a half

    • @vibezlogistics7453
      @vibezlogistics7453 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@2aj.The outside stations have been getting a face lift for 20 yrs now ..in most places where they closed elevators for decades their now built new ones . They also renovated a lot of the stations in lower Manhattan..

    • @2aj.
      @2aj. Před 9 měsíci

      yeah thats lower manhattan everywhere else is neglected@@vibezlogistics7453

  • @leninmercedes6567
    @leninmercedes6567 Před 9 měsíci +14

    In a mere 30 years it started to degrade. Shotty construction. Poor materials. Not everything build back in the day was better

  • @chrispraz877
    @chrispraz877 Před 9 měsíci +68

    I remember playing on the abandoned sections above 57th that were west of the existing/remaining pieces. This was as a kid in the early "80's. The steel work and ornate early 20th century design made a impression on me even then. Thanks for the great pictures and background information. I've never seen pictures of that trestle Bridge near canal.
    Another gem Ryan.

    • @brew62
      @brew62 Před 9 měsíci +8

      As a kid in the late 70s early 80s we always played at the 72nd St. exit ramp before it was completely demolish in the 90s. It was also great playing there because it was near Riverside Park and also a great place to practice graffiti as a young teenager.

  • @steves1749
    @steves1749 Před 9 měsíci +61

    As a 74yo native New Yorker I remember that death highway well, As a kid I remember driving it with my dad and it was neat. Great views and there was a adjasant building along side that seemed to have a real tractor truck on top. But as an adult driving in the 70's it was horriffic. The lanes were too narrow, hairpin curves, potholes everywhere and those super narrow left lane exits. I was glad to see it come down.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 Před 9 měsíci +7

      I remember that rooftop truck with its forced perspective to make it look bigger! The "Miller Highway" was our route from Brooklyn to the George Washington Bridge and up to the Catskill resorts north of NYC. Each turn in the highway revealed the GW Bridge closer and closer to us until we finally reached it.

    • @svjarahian
      @svjarahian Před 9 měsíci +6

      As I recall the tractor trailer was Yale Trucking Co.

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I think you're right about that; not long before it was removed the billboard & truck were repainted & turned into a sign for a public storage warehouse@@svjarahian

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Where was the building with the truck on top?

    • @joestrike8537
      @joestrike8537 Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@edwardmiessner6502If I had to guess all these years later, I'd say it was somewhere between 36th & 42nd Streets, probably closer to 42nd. Of course the building it was on, along with just about everything along that stretch is long gone.

  • @Bob-hm7cf
    @Bob-hm7cf Před 9 měsíci +15

    My fathers wholesale poultry business was right under the west side highway on the corner of 131st street and 12th ave. I could remember going into work with my dad and looking up at the highway over head. This was back in the early 60's. I can remember walking over to the Hudson River which was about a block or so away and seeing Palisades Amusement park on the other side of the Hudson.

  • @HobbyOrganist
    @HobbyOrganist Před 9 měsíci +41

    We know why it collapsed, I was there back then, the city never bothered to maintain it, salted runoff water in winter added to the severe corrosion of the cast iron and steel. A substantiala heavy structure built in the 1920s and 1930s was basically destroyed in less than 50 years.
    I own several of the round city seal cast iron artifacts from it, I had quite a few more of them back then, along with two of the 500 pound pieces that were above the much larger cast iron street/pier number designation signs, and a booklet from the opening ceremony.

    • @christopherchapola6184
      @christopherchapola6184 Před 3 měsíci

      so cool wanted to get one of those round plaques i drove truck under it back in the day watched them take it down a piece at a time good memories

  • @JeffFrmJoisey
    @JeffFrmJoisey Před 9 měsíci +35

    I remember riding West Side Hwy with my Dad in the early 1960s. The views of the NJ shoreline were amazing with the Crisco and Colgate signs. Many of the piers on he NYC side were already derelict at that point, having burned and collapsed, leaving twisted, rusted steel eyesores. I remember a really tight zig-zag in the road before we exited aroud 14th St.
    One major, important thing to correct, NYCRR is the New York CENTRAL Railroad, not the New York City Railroad

    • @Thebrothaisback
      @Thebrothaisback Před 9 měsíci +1

      Views of NJ? I ride the Westside highway everday, and no looks at NJ except outsiders wonder what that is and probably why there is nothing over there.

    • @JeffFrmJoisey
      @JeffFrmJoisey Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Thebrothaisback it was the early
      1960’s and I was a 6 year old kid. The highway was elevated and it was easier to see NJ. Now prob not as much.

  • @thomascourtien8497
    @thomascourtien8497 Před 9 měsíci +21

    I remember riding the West Side Highway in the car on our way from Westchester to the Battery Tunnel to visit relatives in Brooklyn. The exciting part was seeing the big ocean liners lined up at all the piers. This was in the late 1950s and early 1960s.

    • @e.t.p.3710
      @e.t.p.3710 Před 2 měsíci

      Your post reflects almost exactly what I had intended to write. We, too, had a family member in Brooklyn, so viewing the ships (SS United States, Queen Mary, etc.) was a huge thrill as we drove down from the Poughkeepsie area as children.

  • @WAYNENYC100
    @WAYNENYC100 Před 9 měsíci +18

    A section still exists with 2 original street lamps. It's on the southbound side at approx. 72nd street. I wish the city would restore the lamps to working condition but the people running things now weren't even born when the great elevated highway existed and don't care about preserving this small unnoticed section...I miss old new york city.

    • @G1nn3y
      @G1nn3y Před 8 měsíci

      Learned something new, thanks!

    • @howieduwit2551
      @howieduwit2551 Před 3 měsíci

      Look up Miller Highway Remnant - it's a historical landmark .

    • @sammidebussy
      @sammidebussy Před 2 měsíci

      Well I think it's good we're moving away from being car centric

  • @allenkatz5652
    @allenkatz5652 Před 9 měsíci +43

    Thanks Ryan, this is very interesting and you provided great historical footage.
    Would you be able to do a video on the elevators that used to take vehicles from the Queensboro Bridge to Roosevelt Island?

    • @BobFrTube
      @BobFrTube Před 9 měsíci +6

      Yes, the upside-down building on the Queensboro Bridge on Welfare Island.

  • @brianpower3159
    @brianpower3159 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I was born in 1976 but I saw parts of this abandoned until 1985. My parents used to take me to an abandoned pier to look at NJ.

    • @domineeksanford8043
      @domineeksanford8043 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was born in '71. I remember riding the West Side El' from lower Manhattan to the Riverdale Pkwy w/ my Grandmother [RIP] to the BX. I remember the Bridge at 14th street I believe & sometimes seeing the Highline Frieght trains just eye view from the The Highway 🛣...
      I was sad when the whole structure was demolished & the Highline abandoned.
      #Memories

  • @MaximaPolak
    @MaximaPolak Před 9 měsíci +11

    Love the Polish maps of NY you used. Nowy Jork

  • @DMETS519
    @DMETS519 Před 9 měsíci +11

    The West side highway today, aka 12th ave, still has exit signs posted for 34th and 23rd st. I always found it odd that they had "highway style" big green exit signs telling me that 34th st or 23rd st was coming up. Even though there are traffic lights every single block just like every other avenue in Manhattan.

    • @archfapper211
      @archfapper211 Před 9 měsíci +1

      West St, and further up the Saw Mill Pkwy, are the only places I've seen surface junctions have exit numbers

    • @mozeki
      @mozeki Před 8 měsíci

      Linden Blvd used to have exit green signs in Brooklyn. Not sure if they have been removed.@@archfapper211

    • @avkay12
      @avkay12 Před 7 měsíci

      It may be surface level with traffic lights and pedestrian crossings but it's still a highway, as strange as it seems.

  • @skelelator
    @skelelator Před 9 měsíci +18

    It wasn't the New York City RR, but the NY Central RR, and the West Side Highway had some of the most unbelievable car crashes as cars got faster and more of them on the outdated road.

  • @US_Joe
    @US_Joe Před 9 měsíci +12

    I remember it all too well. Being a confident & good driver, even I was "white-knuckled" on this monstrosity! Narrow lanes, poor road conditions, and other car's speeding & rudeness were common place. Great episode - Thank you! 👍👍👍

  • @distar97
    @distar97 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Driving on the highway required daredevil skills, admittedly if your going fast. The steel walls were not like todays smooth guardrails. There were steel elements sticking out towards you as seen in the video.
    Almost all turns were sudden changes, not curved. The technique was to yank on the steering wheel about a car length beforehand.
    I long admired those lamp posts. They were true works of art deco. I really expected the city could have saved a few or at least put a few up for auction.

  • @visionpersistance
    @visionpersistance Před 8 měsíci +3

    The elevated track footage shown was actually the famous “dead man’s curve” of the 9th Avenue Elevated Line at 110th Street as it made it’s way through Harlem and up 8th Avenue to the Polo Grounds where the New York (now San Francisco Giants) baseball club once played

  • @charlescrawford7039
    @charlescrawford7039 Před 9 měsíci +15

    Yes, I remember the highway as a kid in the 1960s. We occasionally went for summer vacation to Europe by ocean liner. I remember the taxi would take us along the highway to the passenger terminal.

  • @carmineriganti2333
    @carmineriganti2333 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Another memory. 🤔 Driving on the west side highway, where some parts of the blacktop were worn away exposing cobble stone blocks. (bright idea on a highway) Driving in the rain you have to remember where they are, or you'll be fishtailing. Especially when I rode my motorcycle. 😲 That's how I became a great driver LOL
    Make more videos on Brooklyn and NYC. I have lots of memories.

    • @lbrown1991
      @lbrown1991 Před 7 dny

      The ice In between the cobbler stones were treacherous

  • @monica012077
    @monica012077 Před 9 měsíci +3

    18:18 That visual of the north tower beams in the windows of the building at 135 West St are crazy! Tower 1 is over 500 feet away and this is 15 stories up. The thought of metal beams flying that far so high up is insane

  • @katherinekinnaird4408
    @katherinekinnaird4408 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Always a pleasure Ryan. Thank you for your diligence. God bless you. 😊

  • @birdsdaword
    @birdsdaword Před 9 měsíci +6

    I remember riding bikes with my cousin on the West Side Highway while it was closed to cars and open to pedestrians and bikes. We rode down to Greenwich Village from his place. It was lovely to ride through the wreckage.

  • @georgecosta7209
    @georgecosta7209 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I recall this roadway! When I was a kid, we had family living in Bayonne, NJ, so we would take the WSD and I loved it.
    Seeing the ocean liners, cobblestone segments that immense billboard with a truck atop (Yale?)
    Approaching the Holland Tunnel was daunting because what was going on was a bit scary.
    Today, it’s amazing and some of the old piers are still visible.

  • @cr128
    @cr128 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Another obsolete feature of the highway, which I find interesting to note, is that the older sections were originally paved using stone blocks as the driving surface, instead of asphalt or concrete.

  • @angelrivera8558
    @angelrivera8558 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I remember the high west side high way as a child in the 1969s my father would drive threw it all the time. It was night ride and see the city lights as we drove back home from places like Coney Island, and many more but as a child I wasn’t aware of the hardships of others and business as a kid who would. I do remember the speed limits of ( if I remember it was 90 speed limits then before the big change to 55. But I was a child who just love the ride on it.

  • @pistolshrimp6252
    @pistolshrimp6252 Před 9 měsíci +13

    The West side highway is very similar to the Pulaski skyway. Both road systems were built around the same time.
    If you want to get a feel for what it's like, drive on the Pulaski skyway.
    It's in New Jersey and it carries u.s. route 1 / 9

    • @sw5114
      @sw5114 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Except Pulaski Skyway is pretty much straight as an arrow. Glad it’s been preserved. Also the BQE elevated section south of Brooklyn Heights, reminds me of the West Side Highway as well.

    • @christinecollins6302
      @christinecollins6302 Před 8 měsíci

      Pulaski was never as narrow, curvy and fun/scary- but it gives the feel!

  • @getrealnow73
    @getrealnow73 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I recall walking underneath it to get to the piers and how dangerous it was at grounds level

  • @Lagunabeachbikini
    @Lagunabeachbikini Před 9 měsíci +6

    One summer day we were walking around Manhattan and ended up on the west side. We walked up a ramp and found ourselves on an abandoned highway. It must have been the summer of 1974. We were the only ones up there, and it felt like the twilight zone. We thought it was a cool place, an abandoned road that no one seemed to know about.

    • @ericgregory9478
      @ericgregory9478 Před 3 měsíci

      At night it was a different story when it became gay.

  • @uhlijohn
    @uhlijohn Před 9 měsíci +38

    You should do a video on Chicago's elevated rail lines. That was absolutely necessary in Chicago since it was rail hub of the nation. And it was a truly amazing feat of engineering. Virtually ALL RR rights of way were elevated above public grade beginning in the early 20th century. If the RRs had opposed it, it probably would not have been accomplished but the RRs knew something had to be done to separate public crossings with their rights of way.

    • @MichaelBradley1967
      @MichaelBradley1967 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Make sure to include all the elevated lines that are now gone.

  • @greggweber9967
    @greggweber9967 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I wonder how many outside scenes in the old TV series The Naked City were shot there.

  • @edwardmiessner6502
    @edwardmiessner6502 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Fun Fact!: The Village People filmed parts of the video for their hit song Y.M.C.A. in the shadow of the old West Side Express Highway, both on the old derelict Christopher Street Pier and on West Street about a block south of the New York Ramrod which was a popular leather and western themed gay men's bar.

    • @christopherchapola6184
      @christopherchapola6184 Před 3 měsíci

      remember the time they had a mass shooting in front of the Ram Rods my truck driving days from N J to Brooklyn think it was early 80s when that happened

  • @alexanderyacht6483
    @alexanderyacht6483 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I rode the highway many times as a kid in the 60s and 70s. I remember the Yale truck. What I loved the most were the old piers, like the ocean liner piers, and the railroad piers, like the Lackawanna, the Lehigh Valley, and the "Pennsylvania Railroad Freight Station Desbrosses Street."

  • @ctntelevisionnetwork8738
    @ctntelevisionnetwork8738 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thank you for making this video i have always tried to learn more about west side highway!! really nice. And the editing of this video is really good also!

  • @johncamp2567
    @johncamp2567 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Always fascinating; always well researched and documented!! You keep bringing unique stories!!👍

  • @mickjr270
    @mickjr270 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I liked driving on it, seeing the ocean liners docked along the river. It was nice to have traffic above the street level when I lived near the roadway in Greenwich Village in the sixties and seventies. After the collapse in late 1973, the deserted highway became a jogging and bicycling path for locals. These days, the replacing highway is a noisy traffic mess making access to the waterfront park difficult. Pedestrians wait endlessly for lights to give them the right and safety clearance to get to the riverside.

  • @jamesohara6513
    @jamesohara6513 Před 9 měsíci +6

    You neglected to mention the Westward debacle, a billion dollar, 8 lane, sunken expressway going only from the Lincoln tunnel to the Brooklyn battery tunnel that was opposed by everyone in the 1980s.

  • @luislaplume8261
    @luislaplume8261 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The silent film we see was the 9th Avenue El that was made in 1899 when it still had steam locomotives pulling the trains.

  • @rickpinelli1586
    @rickpinelli1586 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I lived in the Bronx and always used the West Side Hwy to go to Manhattan. I enjoyed the twisty turns near the south end!.

  • @mikemancini313
    @mikemancini313 Před 9 měsíci +4

    The ship SS Normandie burned and sunk off of West Side Highway. 1000s of cars could see it burning in 1942.

  • @williedev
    @williedev Před 8 měsíci +6

    During the time before demolition, the elevated highway was "open" to bikes, "at your own risk". This was a whole lot of fun but I think some bikers perished falling through one of the many holes in the roadway

  • @JD-gc1um
    @JD-gc1um Před 9 měsíci +14

    I have lived in Manhattan for 20+ years and have been witness to the transformation of the west side from Battery Park City up to the Highline. Hudson River Park is now one of the best parts of the city - many family friendly areas, bike and runner paths, great views of the hudson from multiple public piers, 2 water parks or the kids, essentially no crime or drug activity (during the day at least, weekends get a lot of partiers). Yeah theres a busy street there but you hardly notice. Glad the monstrosity described here has been removed and forgotton ❤.

  • @sasz2107
    @sasz2107 Před 9 měsíci +5

    This was a good video. People talked about this road years ago. It's largely forgotten that this road even existed now. What doesn't make a lot of sense to me is that the city could have restricted truck travel on the highway and made the highway for cars only. This would have prevented the road from collapsing. Ironically the road collapse and closure happened right in the middle of the 1973 - 74 oil embargo, when people had trouble getting gas for their vehicles.

  • @dimebarcocker
    @dimebarcocker Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great stuff! I've been trying to find out more about this highway since I saw pictures of the newly built WTC with the raised highway alongside.
    It's difficult to find many pictures about it.

  • @Distress.
    @Distress. Před 9 měsíci +4

    so basically this is whats going to happen to the Brooklyn expressway.

  • @neilafacci5833
    @neilafacci5833 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I remember driving on parts of the highway probably west 57th st that the surface used cobble stones . The city needs to maintain the fdr drive and the other roads so history doesn’t repeat itself .

  • @55metsfan
    @55metsfan Před 9 měsíci +7

    After my Nana moved to Teaneck my father's preferred route when we went to her house was through the Battery Tunnel, up the West Side Highway and over the GW Bridge. The trip gave us regular views of the WTC being built. One day we asked what would happen if the towers caught fire. My dad was something of a kidder and he said the buildings would be on hinges so they could be dipped into the Hudson. Was the first thing we thought of on 9/11.

  • @nycstarport8542
    @nycstarport8542 Před 9 měsíci +6

    As a Native NYer, l remember the West Side Highway, and the abandoned warehouses as an EYESORE. It looks Beautiful today with West Street; and the parks along the water.

    • @mohamad-ms2pb
      @mohamad-ms2pb Před 9 měsíci +1

      Those pretty parks along the Hudson came at a price. NYC was a manufacturing hub along with it's shipping lanes.

    • @nycstarport8542
      @nycstarport8542 Před 9 měsíci

      @@mohamad-ms2pb Yes, also Long Island City WAS a manufacturing city; especially along the waterfront.

    • @mohamad-ms2pb
      @mohamad-ms2pb Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@nycstarport8542 Yes, and the same for the water fronts of Brooklyn from Newton Creek down to the top of Bay Ridge where the Belt Parkway begins.

  • @mohamad-ms2pb
    @mohamad-ms2pb Před 9 měsíci +3

    I remember this highway as a kid. The modern look of the elevated FDR made the West Side Highway look so obsolete. On this highway the roadway was not paved but had small cobblestones which were reddish in color. Then there were S shaped curves that made motorists slow down to about 25 mph.

  • @BobFrTube
    @BobFrTube Před 9 měsíci +4

    My primary memory was how bumpy it was. I don't think I ever drove on it myself, having relocated to Boston.

    • @sw5114
      @sw5114 Před 9 měsíci

      Was the heavy cobblestones !

    • @BobFrTube
      @BobFrTube Před 9 měsíci

      @@sw5114 The elevated wouldn't have been though plenty or streets were.

  • @SamanthaScarlette
    @SamanthaScarlette Před 9 měsíci +2

    Super interesting! I live on the west side, and love biking down the Hudson River bike path.. I had no idea the West Side Highway was ever elevated!

  • @johnvanceSOIA13
    @johnvanceSOIA13 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I grew up on Barrow St in Greenwich Village (born in '73), and we would ride our bike up there, set off fireworks, and/or watch fireworks.

  • @xmtryanx
    @xmtryanx Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great doc!
    If I'm not mistaken, some of the parking structure ramps for the cruise terminal are original WSH structures as well :)

  • @residentevil4life
    @residentevil4life Před 9 měsíci +1

    I bike through that area almost every day and I would seriously never know or ever imagine there had ever been an elevated highway there

  • @DLeadVox
    @DLeadVox Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thank you Ryan!
    I have a suggestion for you...
    Roller Skating in Chicago.
    The Hub Roller Rink (later, The Axel)
    Speed skating, competition, figure & dance skating.
    The Elm Roller Rink
    Dance Clubs & Competitions
    Tony Talhman - the organ player.
    The organ at The Elm Roller Rink
    Let that cook on the back burner for a little while...
    Love your videos, you are a wonderful presenter! Thank you!
    DD in PC.

  • @michaelft5933
    @michaelft5933 Před měsícem

    I love your segments You and your team NICE JOB!

  • @JustinF30
    @JustinF30 Před 9 měsíci +1

    There is a video online of a kid running across the last section of the elevated west side highway worth the watch !

  • @Novusod
    @Novusod Před 9 měsíci +3

    The elevated section of the highway was extended South at some point all the way to the World Trade center. That section of the highway was still standing and in use up until the 1980s.

  • @drewrobinson5153
    @drewrobinson5153 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I believe the steam-powered passenger train pictured running through the street at 1:49 into the video is actually Syracuse, NY - several hundread miles from New York City. Trains ran at-grade down the middle of Washington Street in downtown Syracuse until a major grade separation project was undertaken by the New York Central Railroad in the 1930s (a project which was destroyed, incidentally, by the construction of Interstate-690 through the heart of Syracuse in the early 1960s). Passenger trains stopped operating on Manhattan's surface streets DECADES before any plans were introduced to build the West Side Elevated (Miller) Highway. The tracks on the West Side (which were eventually elevated, independent of the highway) were freight only.

    • @themoviedealers
      @themoviedealers Před 9 měsíci +1

      Having lived there for five years, definitely Syracuse.

    • @fringestream990
      @fringestream990 Před 8 měsíci

      I thought so as well. Such a famous part of Syracuse history looked familiar to me.

  • @WindTurbineSyndrome
    @WindTurbineSyndrome Před 8 měsíci +1

    Most of NYC today especially Manhattan has huge aging infrastructure issues with bricks falling on pedestrians.

  • @ser010267
    @ser010267 Před 9 měsíci +1

    A piece of the ramp connecting the Battery Park Underpass still exist as a flower bed

  • @mikemullay5622
    @mikemullay5622 Před 9 měsíci +6

    The old Seattle waterfront viaduct was removed the same way piece by piece, fortunately before it collapsed.

    • @00177454419
      @00177454419 Před 9 měsíci

      I remember riding on the West Side Highway when I was a kid in the early 60's and later on the Alaskan Way Viaduct in Seattle in the 80's. It almost seemed to me that the Alaskan Way Viaduct was the West Side highway upside down. The West Side Highway going south fed into the Battery tunnel which led to the bridges and viaducts of the Gowanas expressway in Brooklyn. The Alaskan Way Viaduct led to a tunnel in the North wich led to bridges and viaducts that became Aurora avenue.

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se Před 9 měsíci

      To be fair the Seattle viaduct was kind of redundant since the i5 is right in downtown Seattle a few blocks over. Where as manhattan NY needs more freeways, Seattle is a smaller metro and doesn’t need more than the i5 tbh

    • @moto.squish
      @moto.squish Před 2 měsíci

      @@LucasFernandez-fk8se yeah… only no. Now its an order of magnitude worse to get to downtown or north of the city from the southwest portions of Seattle. Or expensive through a tunnel that will leak and cuase problems likely before a retrofit viaduct would have.

  • @Tmrfe0962
    @Tmrfe0962 Před 9 měsíci

    Great job, I remember this well. Well done. Thanks

  • @7viewerlogic670
    @7viewerlogic670 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @Farenheit451NY
    @Farenheit451NY Před 9 měsíci +5

    Very enjoyable video and great photos! I do remember driving on the West Side as a little kid and remember when the truck fell through it. Thanks for creating this.

  • @robertdipaola3447
    @robertdipaola3447 Před měsícem

    I remember riding in the west side elevated highway, observing the docks and waterfront, and the famous Yale tractor- trailer truck on top of one of the buildings by the top of the highway

  • @donaldleider7382
    @donaldleider7382 Před 9 měsíci +11

    I grew up riding on the west side highway from the early sixties, then driving on it as a teenager in the early seventies. The highway was crumbling and falling apart from day one, it was never maintained. Looking back now as an adult you can easily see that the elevated highway should have never been built in the first place. West street should’ve just been reconfigured to what it is presently at street level, it works very well. I also remember Mayor Ed Koch proposing West way in the 1980’s, a super highway to replace the West Side Highway. Thank God it never got built!

  • @rafaelnieves978
    @rafaelnieves978 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks 🙏 for the video. It brought back memories. I went to Food and Maritime high school which had a ship docked at pier 42.

  • @irwinloos1098
    @irwinloos1098 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Im 65 and remember as a child riding 😢with my dad on the west side highway💭💭in the sixties..those roadways were pretty beat up by then..thanks for the memories 💭💭💭

  • @mandolindleyroadshow706
    @mandolindleyroadshow706 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I remember riding on the West Side Highway as a kid. When I was a taxi driver up until a few years ago I had a habit of correcting people who called West Street the "West Side Highway." I would explain to them that the highway had spanned overhead and was removed in the 1970-80s. I think there was more of a loss when NY lost most of its shipping industry. In the 1960s I recall seeing passenger and freighter ships lining the Hudson River piers. What became of the thousands of jobs that made NY the busiest port in the US?

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 Před 9 měsíci

      Zzzzz

    • @avkay12
      @avkay12 Před 7 měsíci

      West Street is for postal addresses. The roadway is still the West Side Highway, even when it's 12th Avenue.

  • @glenlongstreet7
    @glenlongstreet7 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I don't have memories of New York roads, but I do have memories of rural New England trollies, horse drawn and electric. They existed for only about 3 decades before automobiles destroyed this casual and calm form of public transportation. Not that I used them, but my grandmother did. It started with a three-mile horse powered ride, followed by a trolly to a train station, and then to the ends of the earth (or at least America). Such a loss.

  • @digitalhen
    @digitalhen Před 8 měsíci +3

    Looking forward to this approach to the BQE

  • @williedev
    @williedev Před 8 měsíci +1

    My parents were separated in the 60's. I lived in Flatbush and my Dad lived near Lincoln Center. A taxi from there back to Flatbush was incredibly fast, first going down the elevated highway and then directly through the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. I bet the same trip would take double the time these days.
    As we zipped along, we also got a great view of the top cruise ships of the time from a high vantage point.

  • @Hal70jordan
    @Hal70jordan Před 9 měsíci

    Hi Ryan, love your videos. I had a idea for New York’s lost piers and another on 5 points

  • @lynnedwyer6716
    @lynnedwyer6716 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Riding in a car on that highway just before it’s closing was a horror. Cracked cement sent the car bouncing and rocking. It didn’t feel safe. The area is beautiful now.

  • @tommymandel
    @tommymandel Před 8 měsíci

    wow, those who drive on it today will be very enlightened by this detailed and well researched video. Thank you.

  • @user-fw9yc3ss2n
    @user-fw9yc3ss2n Před 9 měsíci +1

    i used that highway back in the 60s it was a great way to cut driving time,,there were many plans to rebuild it ,, but some west side residents chaired by an old women argue against it because the traffic will pollute the water and the fish ,they won and now they have their view but also smog from bumper to bumper traffic stuck in traffic lights ,,

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Excellent 👌

  • @JoseMorales-lw5nt
    @JoseMorales-lw5nt Před 9 měsíci +6

    #IT'SHISTORY: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Some time ago, I once left a suggestion for this very topic... and you really did your homework on this piece of NYC history.
    Always love the thoroughness with which you explain each subject. Being a native New Yorker, learning about lost pieces of architecture has been a fascinating experience for me.
    If it hasn't been tackled yet, I do have a great piece of New Jersey history you might want to devote a video to. If you're familiar with Atlantic City, then you'll recall a recent renovation involving the famous Boardwalk Hall. It contains the world's largest pipe organ! Now that's some history I think many would like to hear about...❤

  • @bklyncyclist
    @bklyncyclist Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember driving on the highway when I was a kid. We would count off the piers as we went up, usually from the Battery Tunnel up to the Lincoln Tunnel. My dad had a bar at Clarkson & West St too, and we mostly saw the street level traffic and the piers from there. By the time I was a teen, my driving friends would take it and we'd all be commenting on how tight the turns are and how crazy the left entrances were. After it collapsed I did take the opportunity to ride my bike on it one time too. What surprised me then was that they didn't close it off completely.
    I've been biking on the West Side Greenway since it opened and noticed changes over the years, from the original stop signs put at cyclist's head level at every corner as if cyclists were a problem on a bikeway, to what appeared to be a widening of the bikeway where easily done by removing some decorative brick paving.
    There was a rumor that the guitarist John McGlaughlin of the Mahavishnu Orchestra was killed when it collapsed. I never knew how that originated.

  • @walkthedogs240
    @walkthedogs240 Před měsícem

    I remember riding that elevated highway on my Honda 350 circa 1972. Those concrete potholes were no joke. So was the debris of hubcaps, bumpers and other vehicle parts that fell off when they hit them.

  • @justSTUMBLEDupon
    @justSTUMBLEDupon Před 8 měsíci +1

    Almost no one thinks about maintenance and repairs (or just general operational costs) on any of these public projects. Heck, even private projects, they just don’t think about how maintenance and repair costs.

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 Před 9 měsíci +1

    We have this in Sydney at Circular Quay. It's called the Cahill Expressway. It's hideous.

  • @hugh007
    @hugh007 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I used to take the W side from the Battery up to the GW bridge to go to Palisades Park. Cobblestones in part. Left lane entrances and exits. What were they thinking?
    I was there when it collapsed as I was working nights downtown.
    Thanks.

  • @maroon9273
    @maroon9273 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'll love to hear more information regarding the west way underground highway from Henry parkway to battery tunnel.

  • @stephenmoerlein8470
    @stephenmoerlein8470 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting history of a great city of the world. Thanks for the content!

  • @SinaLaJuanaLewis
    @SinaLaJuanaLewis Před 9 měsíci +2

    I love what they did with the high line though. It's cool❤

  • @blackfreud9048
    @blackfreud9048 Před měsícem

    I remember our family used to drive down the “Westside Highway” on the way to the Holland Tunnel to visit grandma in Newark! Long ago in a galaxy far far away……

  • @ronberman8947
    @ronberman8947 Před 9 měsíci

    I remember visiting NYC in the early-mid '70s. My dad drove on this highway to visit my relatives.

  • @louieatienza8762
    @louieatienza8762 Před měsícem

    As a kid in he late 70s early 80s, I remember the section from maybe from past the 79th street Boat Basin exit to the ramp around 56th street where traffic was brought down to ground level, and it was mostly all cobblestone. Going north, the elevated portion could still be entered from a point more south of that, though I can't recall exactly. There were many sections still up where cars drove under.

  • @vincenthprice2260
    @vincenthprice2260 Před 8 měsíci

    Very interesting documentary about west side highway I remember riding with my father on that highway to the GWB to New Jersey

  • @Mk99987
    @Mk99987 Před 9 měsíci +4

    5:44 New York Central , not New York City Railroad

  • @ristube3319
    @ristube3319 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Kills me that only 20 years of use before severe damage.

  • @kizashikaze9066
    @kizashikaze9066 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ahh yes, the Miller Highway. The Morrison Street Fieze is one of only ones still preserved and displayed. There were some of the eagle things (hawk? I forgot) in the storage area prior to Canal Street but they were dumped around the time 12th avenue was demolished.

  • @sw5114
    @sw5114 Před 9 měsíci

    At 19:26 you describe the last section of the original WSH. You show a still of underneath, but the is Riverside Drive overpass of 125th St. viaduct, which long predated WSH, and still exists.

  • @anthonymrskipt9252
    @anthonymrskipt9252 Před 8 měsíci +1

    My family drove down the West Sideway many, many times, over my youth when we went down to the Staten Island Ferry to visit relatives. Although I wasn’t very old, I distinctly remember the collapse and the aftermath (cleanup, kids playing on the abandoned roadway). I also remember my uncle taking me on the high line back then - long before it became the amazing park it is today. I still remember looking at the construction of the twin towers over those years. Hard to imagine how much all that has changed.

  • @mikeyo1990
    @mikeyo1990 Před 4 měsíci

    This is the 3rd video of yours that I watched today based on NY infrastructure. Up until recently I used to work in queens near Richmond hill and woodhaven and took the J train to work. I was always blown away by the condition of the steel on the elevated platform and tracks many places were so rotted you can put your finger through the holes. This portion of elevated tracks are also the oldest portion in the city. I can’t see it going another 50 years without a catastrophic failure