Jamie Foy Bearing Hack DOES IT REALLY WORK?
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2022
- Jamie Foy bearing hack is to soak old skateboard bearings in windex. Jamie Foy does this to remove the grease from the skateboard bearings. Jamie foy says that grease attracts dirt which ruins skateboard bearings. Jamie foy says that by removing the grease dirt that gets into the bearing will then be able to fall right back out. I tested this jamie foy bearing hack a while ago but I had nothing to compare it to. In this video I compare bronson G3's after jamie foy's windex bearing hack to a brand new set of bronson raw skateboard bearings to see if jamie foy's bearing hack really can make old bearings skate like new again. Jamie foy needs his skateboard in tip top shape when he's skating in street league, dew tour or x games or if he's filming a video part for thrasher magazine or the berrics. Jamie Foy always needs to have his board setup on point.
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The reason Big Boy Foy specifically said windex is because it has a degreaser agent. The problem though is that it’s also mostly water. It will clean your bearings but they will rust super fast. The ideal way to degrease them is with 99% isopropyl alcohol. It will degrease them without promoting oxidation as fast. (I’m from the east coast, we know about rust lol)
I use soap and water and never had a rusty bearing. Dry them out in the sun for like 3 minutes. Alcohol is fine to use but your spending more money for the same result.
The idea that degreasing bearings is ever a _good_ thing is laughably stupid though......... Not even kidding.
@@PHeMoX you need to remove dirty grease from your machine parts.. Not stupid at all. That applies to everything from chainsaws, airplane parts and your skateboard bearings. Degreasing is the first step you MUST do before you relube them. Not even kidding.
Isopropyl is the main component in Windex besides other alcohols. Great for a household product. A drop of lube and (new) shields are definitely smarter though.
@@PHeMoX you're full of it.
After my 20 years of skating I know this: pop shields off, put bearings in alcohol for a while, shake it. Then put them out, shake again. Let it air dry and then apply one drop of bike chain lube in each of them.( or sewing machine oil if you have access to it). Put shields back on and use these bearings for another 6 months at least.
Also spin test tells you absolutely nothing about how these bearings ride loaded up with your weight.
I use machine oil only on my Bronson's a drop or two will do to each bearing , g3s /raws are what I ride
Sewing machine oil ROCKS
silicone oil is best
@@komoonkh Exactly. These guys aren't taking into account load and friction caused by load. You have to have your bearings oiled because you create friction as the bearings spin. Without oil, you're unprotected from pitting or already existing pits in the balls of the bearing or in the races.
You're the best Joe, will never stop supporting you 💯💯
I honestly believe he's got the best channel on CZcams right now.
Thanks guys! I'm definitely trying!
@@localjoe you're killing it
I love your little hack of putting both bearings on the truck and turning the wheel around!.... Nice
I had a pair of Cortina Elijah Berle pro bearings that spun for 1:40 after they broke in. They were the easiest bearings to get to spin out of any bearings I've ever owned.
Your back 5-0s are nice man. Thanks for the video on this.
You don't want bone dry bearings. They will break down super fast, you need some kind of lube in there
I might put some speed cream in there but that’s why foy does
I think it's a debate of performance vs durability. anyone who tries the windex trick will definitely see it works very well. But you're sacrificing longevity of the bearing. that grease that supposedly attracts/holds dirt is also the only reason the bearing will spin with dirt in them. i think lubed bearing are for those that don't want to have to regularly clean their bearing. and non-lubed is good for maximum performance.
@@localjoe Try to get some Triflow dry lube. When it dries it turns into a wax like substance and doesn't attract dirt as much as grease.
@@localjoe i use low viscosity synthetic sewing machine oil, works fantastic. Speed cream will produce slower results because it does have a higher viscosity (it's a grease).
See I really would expect this to be true, but I've skated the same set of reds unshielded and bone dry for almost 6 years and they roll as good as ever.
As an engineer, my first reaction is lubed bearings with shields to keep dirt out. However, if running shieldless, then yeah lube attracts dirt.
Honestly though, these bearings were originally created for high speed application in machinery. I don’t think skaters are getting them up to a speed that makes them hot enough that the lube matters. 🤷♂️.
The side forces probably do more damage to the bearing than running them dry.
That's a bingo.
Exactly, the bearings we use weren’t made for what we use them for. Imagine if we had access to bearings that swivel.
And thats why people should use bearing spacers. That way you can tighten down the axle nuts so that the bearings spin on the inner race (as they are intended to do), and also handle axial loads better, because there isent any side to side play.
@@kkfarmedkk yep, when I started skating again I was like, why aren’t there any spacers with the bearings. I had a buddy in the 80s blow out a set of bearings while riding our half pipe because he had no spacers.
no I wonder why these bearings sucks in winter they need more care , in the hot summer months these things glide like ice skates easier
I just cleaned 2 sets of bearings Reds (5 years old) & Swiss with Denatured Alcohol, the other with Windex. My Swiss bearings couldn’t even spin afterwards, but the problem was the shitty bearing cradles that Bones’ provide. I popped out cradles from a $15 set of Andale Blues and the Swiss were blazing!
At any rate, don’t buy $60 bearings if you’re not going to lubricate them… You can pop shields, but just drip a single drop of SpeedCream to help preserve and protect.
I also own every set of Bronson bearings and I would need a sponsorship before ever purchasing another! Spend the additional $20 in a set of Swiss if you’re considering RAWS.
Man, I understand the thought process behind this with cleaning them thoroughly with windex, but I don't see how this could really help without some good compressed air blowing them out afterwards and then some lube afterwards like bones lube.
For better results, use KY Gel on your taint.
Gonna put some lube on there today
Paint thinner is great for old dirty bearings. Really gets the dirt out.
@@noooaah lmfao
Honestly, some people just love the tone of dry bearings, without shields. If you run them without shields and use speed cream etc, the gunk builds up fast. As well as defeats the theory of dirt eliminating itself from the bearings.
I degreased some Reds and removed the shields and using bearing spacers and everything is smooth sailing and solid, no maintanance. I imagine if you cleaned your bearings and re oiled them and put the shields back on and kept serviceing them often that they would last longer and maybe be a little faster but no shields to get dented and no maintanance with bearings spacers is a pretty nice set up.
@39 seconds kelly killed us with his laugh again.
Nothing can be better than brand new bearings
It´s totally legit to run the bearings dry, if you can afford buying new bearings every few months. Yes, they spin faster when they´re not lubed, but they wear significantly faster than lubed ones. BUT, as soon as you stand on the deck (instead of letting the wheels spin freely while holding your deck) the effect of faster bearings is dramatically reduced because when you ride your deck, you´ll never get speeds like when your hitting the wheels with your feet. Plus, with lubed bearings i never experienced bearings falling apart while riding. I recommend cleaning in isopropyl an re-lubing the bearings every 4-6 weeks. That works best for me an i can ride my bearing up to two years
I tried this it wasn’t for me but it did give the bearings a cool sound
The Bronson Raws are indeed fast but loose their speed fast after some sessions.
Lubing open bearings is asking for problems (that will just attract filth), what they always sold me was to never measure the speed of the bearings by just spinning them and see how long they keep going, weight (your body) on bearings creates friction while rolling so the lube gets warm going thinner and helps them spin while cooling them off and resulting in more speed.
Any thoughts on that Joe?
I wondered about longevity of Bronson Raws. Did you try them? I think they're not what I'm looking for though.
I've had mine four years and they've slowed down significantly
Can confirm I used 10w motor oil to lube my sealed Super Reds bearings and they rolled but nowhere near as well as when lubed with speed cream after a cleaning.
Switched to Bronson G3's and they roll better than anything. Maybe its cause they're new, lol.
Cause they don't have any lube lmao. Its just metal on metal. Stupid shit
The Raws feel and sound so good when they are brand new. I’m about to go on my second set even though the old ones crapped out relatively fast.
That's the point of the lubricant to extend the life of the bearings, get you some bones speed cream dog that shit works wonders, 2-3 drops on each bearing and they're spinning good for damn near a month
@@joshuajones589 defeats the purpose of the shieldless, lubeless bearing some would say. But yes it helps to take away the squeakyness. But shieldless bearings with lube are a major gunk attractor!
I’ve had mine for four years, I think it may be time for a new set
some of my bearings were just ground to a halt. so I pulled the problem bearings out, pulled shield off, cleaned with acetone, and they still sucked and didn't roll at all. they were just broken I think - the little plastic part that holds the balls in place was cracked, and the balls didn't wanna move in the little bearing grove. cleaning bearings is great, but if your bearings are just straight up busted as mine were - there's nothing cleaning can do.
I used to do that when my bearings were too worn. It give them a few more fast sessions. But it doesn't work for long.
Please compare Bronson G3 with the shields removed against the Bronson Raws!
I soaked my Raws in Windex , super fast. 🔥🔥🔥
This might be true for pros who don't really care if a board lasts more than a day or two.
But if you need your setup to last more than a few months, make sure it's lubricated
Jamie is my ninja ever...
I tried this and my board was super fast the first few sessions, and then progressively got slower but they still roll smoothly... Time to get new bearings soon lol
Thats why I use speed spray. Its real thin and dries buttery smooth.
The longer wait in windex has a corrosive effect and air drying them well will make hella difference.
Very interesting. Good to know. I've recently started skating again as I did it when I was a kid. I've uploaded a few videos of my progression and going to continue to post so I have a log of my progress etc. If there are any fine skaters out there happy to give me some tips and advice then ple feel free since everyone is so much better than me 😅
Does this works with Bronson raw
Could it work on reds
I wonder how they would work if only lubed with graphite lubricant
I clean my raws with pure acetone, dry them out, then apply a liberal amount of Remington gun oil to the balls. Works like a charm. Yeah, the dirt eventually sticks to the oil residue after a while, but they're gonna need to be cleaned again eventually anyway, so...this has always been my method. Never use water, vegetable oil, anything like that. Acetone and gun oil. You can get em both at Walmart. 👍
That's a very old hack but the real one is to put the bearings in acetone to clean it up and then put some graphite powder in them. Is way better than oil or grease because is a dry way to lub.
Nail polish remover or gasoline works pretty well also
I want to try bronsons but tbh the halloween colors throw em off for me
Spin test means nothing because when free spining the inner race is spining around the axle. With bearing spacers the inner race can't move and the wheels free spin slower but thats not the case when riding, your bearings will be faster and more solid with less heat with wheel spacers.
But does a lubed bearing actually get dirtier quicker? Does that even matter?
The short answer is 'no'. The longer answer is people often use too much lube and also remove the shields. Open bearing + lots of lube + dirt == terrible idea. In most cases you really do not have to change anything about the bearings you buy. (And don't skate the shieldless stuff.)
@@PHeMoX not convinced sheildless and dry bearings are a significant detriment to your skateboarding. A lot of people like the sound and that's a good enough reason to do it. Does Skateboarding really cause enough friction ever for your bearings to deform because of heat? I doubt it. Your bearings fail because of torsional forces and impact forces. Things that lube and shields can't protect against.
@@Dontbustthecrust Take a look at your bearing cradles with shields on, and you’ll see how the dirt caked up. Hence why everyone swearing by running shieldless helps.
I have Bronson raw and I clean them dry and then apply 3in1 dry lubricant
They spin hella fast, I only do this on the Bronson raws tho, because of their tungsten metal race
For the longevity of the bearings and to mantain the correct spinning way in any trick condition it's always better to use spacers in the wheel (and also checking the right thickness because not all spacers have the same measure, and the weight -cast or cnc machined-)
Yes but you can’t fit a spacer in the middle of most street wheels, the bearing won’t sit flush with them in there
Here's a tip: Buy the clearance priced bearings at your local shop, the one's that the oil has seeped out of the bearing and stained the packaging/extra shields. There's nothing wrong with those bearings, if they're a quality bearing from the get-go. I copped a set of Andale Swiss, that were old and dried out, didn't get a discount but they were sick, nonetheless.
I just bought a set of Bronson Ceramics, got them for $25 off the retail price...maybe they're old stock, idk, but it doesn't matter because ceramic is non-porous, unlike steel, and is virtually frictionless. Ceramic bearings can be run, dry, and it causes absolutely no detriment to them. Steel bearings on the other hand are constantly under friction, constantly creating heating, constantly expanding and contracting, etc. and removing the oil is going to only exacerbate the situation. To each their own, I don't believe in rules for skating but Physics doesn't really care about "opinions".
At least, be sure that you're using bearing spacers and the proper amount of washers and not having your wheels, loose, and constantly jamming the shield and inner race of your bearing into the axle nut or washers. Don't be surprised when your bearings explode and you get bucked to the ground with the quickness.
I should clarify: Full ceramic bearings are the only bearings that should be run, dry. Good quality, Stainless steel, can be run, dry, as well but probably shouldn't be. You can run a band saw with out lubrication but that doesn't mean that you should. Lubrication, helps dissipate heat, which is caused by friction... Sure, riding shield less, dry bearings might seem alright. There's no shield to trap in dirt and no oil to grip on to dirt/other stuff but your still running your bearing hot and causing more friction than needed.
@@robowenmikelsI've only broke bearings one time and it was longboarding and they were completely shielded bearings, like metal shields clamped in, other than that I've had some seize on me when I was a kid from skating in rain
Some cortina bearings come dry and have a little oil bottle with them
Use paint thinner to clean bearings. Windex has water in it.
And use spacers
instead of cleanex use extraction gasoline for cleaning and for lubrication use just silicone oil
Having compressed air that isn't too powerful will dry bearings out WAY faster.
Sorry being a spoilsport (literally). If you buy Bones bearing, they come with instructions (that nobody reads, but they are probably decades old): "Do not be tempted to use your bearing without any lubricant because they ''spin faster without lubricant". Although this is partly true in a superficial way, riding your bearings without lubricant will cause them to fail quickly and may cause them to 'freeze up,' which is no something you want to happend to you when you are skating!"
Sorry for asking but what is Windex? I’m from germany is it a Window/Glass/Mirror Cleaner? I think so cause it looks like it :D but because I don’t know much about american brands I just wanted to ask :D
But I’m to 99.9% sure it’s a Glass cleaner :D
yeah it is a window cleaner.
@@seltic13 Thank you so much 🙏
I soaked mine in gasoline and winded before cause I’m in pahrump and a lot of wind and dust here. I’ll tell you one thing my guy, my bearings, with no line or shields, never ever get dirt stuck inside. But everyone else’s at the park, no matter what brand bearings, if they have oil or shields they’re all fucked. This shit works
if you are a pro sponsored skater that gets free gear and can switch new gear every 2 weeks, sure go ahead use no oil and open bearings.. Windex is not even the issue, its great to clean the bearings, however you should then apply oil/lub/'speed cream' to them and shields, it will make them good for 2-3months and you can repeat this process. a set of good bearings with some luck can last you even few years
You already have done this exact video before, only adding in comparing them to a new set of bearings after.
But as many have already stated, windex isnt the ideal solution because it will end up rusting the bearings fast. And the reason he can do this and it not be an issue for him: he gets his bearings for free so when they go bad, he can use another pair but regular skaters may not have access to new bearings, in which this "hack" does nothing good for skaters besides ruin their bearings fast.
When are you going to cover something that isnt the same recycled content over and over or only talking about "(insert popular person) kickflip/tailslide/crook/frontside shov it HACK!" and move on to new content?
I’m open to content suggestions my dude if you’ve got a problem with the content you can offer suggestions which I appreciate or stop watching I’m not begging anyone to be here. Would love to here some content ideas 💡
@@localjoe myself and a lot of other people have been giving you suggestions in a lot of your community posts, but only speaking for myself, its felt that either you gloss over my comments or you do read them and would rather not respond.
Even with this video, its damn near the same thumbnail as the previous one on this exact same topic which made me question if it was a re-upload.
Maybe the constructive criticism i give is taken as an attack, but if you read it for what it is, there's a lot of good insight and i do give suggestions for content. Look through your last 5-10 community posts and youll see my comments.
But to simplify things: if you've covered it, especially numerous times, move on to something new/different. Theres only so many ways one can kickflip effectively and just with that content alone, you've made close to 16 kickflip "hack" videos of popular/trending skaters, all videos seem to just focus on you using the tips for the video itself and never be relevant after that.
And the asking of which video title would generate clicks...that gives the perception of desperation that the content within it wouldn't hold its own without clickbaiting (clickbait is getting quick clicks from what first is seem before the video starts), and a lot of your videos are very insightful and give helpful tips for those that dont hyper focus details like you or i would (i use to literally slow mo tricks in parts and study how it was done).
The repetitive content is becoming more noticeable to not just me, ive seen many in the community posts taking notice. Suggestion is to give energy into broadening the quality of the content instead of the quantity of what you've already done as people would always click on videos with "hack" in the title/thumbnail, or only discussing basic tricks, maybe doing tricks that challenge you and if you cant do it...go learn it, and for more than just making content.
dudo mucho que alguien como un profesional se pare a hacerle un mantenimiento a los rodamientos, cuando puede tener los que quiera, recien salidos del "horno".
Yeah, I'll keep lubing mine. Bearing maintenance isn't that hard.
Rog was really not enjoying that episode haha...
😂
Raws are by far the best bearings I’ve ever skated. Better the both bones and Bronson ceramics hands down.
Good video LJ
Use 99 alcohol
Bronson are the worst bearings I've skated I reckon.
Best in bearings is thick grease. They remain silent. Oil escapes the bearing. Dry bearing? noooop! ...The amount of free spin in a bearing has nothing whatsoever to do with its efficiency.
That's because you needed new bearings
You look like Jamie’s cuz
The Windex trick is completely stupid. Most of these bearings need lubricant. And destroying the coating that is in some of these bearings is a very very bad idea. Then again, the whole 'shieldless' stuff is nonsense too. You really do not want to allow dirt to run into a bearing. Ever. And no bearing 'self cleans' just be spinning. Comparing old bearings to new ones is a problematic comparison. Chances are huge those old bearings have lost most of their original perfect shape. Meaning it'll never spin as long, regardless of lubricant, oils etc. Bearings can even warp a little bit too when extensively used with significant enough impact. And as most people do not seem to use bearing spacers, they will have every opportunity to self destruct over time. My advice is 1. avoid the mud runs as much as possible, 2. keep your bearings closed, 3. no "tricks" with cleaning products or even really taking them apart, 4. use bearing spacers, they exist for a reason and 5. don't get your bearings wet. Other than that, I'd say most bearings should last you a good year. Unless impact destroys them, which is always a possibility. It's why I prefer the Bones Reds and just get new ones when they have lost their performance.
Bearings sound way better without the shields. I would sacrifice the lifetime of my bearings just for that sound lol. But I do agree that bearings definitely need a lubricant and you should not run them “dry”.
I agree with most points, but disagree with bearing spacers. Spacers are used in the industry when they perfectly fit and put pressure on both sides of the bearings to stabilise them. The problem is that in the skate industry, spacers are not standardized, nor are the wheels (more specifically, the space between bearings is not the same, whether it be circumference or diameter). It results in breaking your bearings faster.
If you have a 3d printer, take the exact measurements and put spacers in. Otherwise it's not worth it (unfortunately).
You're a phenomenal oil painter. Your skateboarding on the other hand suggests you may not know enough about this subject to have an opinion.
Basic reds will only last a year without any maintenance if you're not skating a whole helluva lot.
Although one of the best skaters of our generation we must take into account that Jamie is still from Florida. This sounds like hillbilly science to me
Comparing how long your bearings spin freely to speed is a fools equation lol
Hell of a skater, not the smartest though
Kerosene. Use kerosene
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