$11,000, 170mm travel - 2022 Specialized KENEVO SL Electric Mountain Bike Review

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @vitalmtb
    @vitalmtb  Před 3 lety +8

    Video breakdown
    0:00 - Intro
    1:00 - Kenevo SL Geometry
    1:38 - Kenevo SL Motor & Battery
    3:03 - Mastermind Turbo Control Unit (TCU)
    4:21 - On-Trail Motor Performance
    5:23 - Micro Tune Adjust Feature
    5:57 - Kenevo SL Descending Performance
    7:13 - Specialized Tire Performance
    7:32 - Kenevo SL Weight
    8:49 - Kenevo SL Weaknesses

  • @Paintmaster5f00
    @Paintmaster5f00 Před 3 lety +94

    normalizing these prices is crazy.

  • @r0ket_335
    @r0ket_335 Před 3 lety +80

    18000$ canadian.... for that price I could build a top of the line custom bikes, buy a bike park season pass and a car to transport the bike.... Just stupid at this point

    • @pinchpeak5203
      @pinchpeak5203 Před 3 lety +5

      Or invest it into your future and retire early

    • @JasonWD
      @JasonWD Před 3 lety +1

      It’s actually $13K Canadian.

  • @mac16a
    @mac16a Před 3 lety +51

    The fact that you have to replace wheels and be aware of overheating brakes at that price point seems ridiculous.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Před rokem +1

      Roval wheels do have a lifetime warranty.

  • @Coerced
    @Coerced Před 3 lety +42

    Looking forward to these things becoming affordable!

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 Před 3 lety +1

      Me too, but I guess that will never happen..
      At least not while these bikes are fully functional.
      Maybe in 8-10 years, when there are no more battery and motor replacements and updates.

    • @Coerced
      @Coerced Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@rolux4853 high tech nowadays will be budget tech in 5 years. What's top of the line now @ 12k will be budget line @ 4k in 5 years. Top of the line then will be 13k and no average rider will be able to tell the difference but everyone will think they need top of the line tech.

    • @Kenneynrg
      @Kenneynrg Před 3 lety +3

      Not while governments are giving away money ... it’s called “inflation”

    • @justgo4033
      @justgo4033 Před 3 lety

      Me to , i mean this thing is double the price of a Suron .

    • @Aggressive_Splooge
      @Aggressive_Splooge Před 3 lety +5

      Hahaha never gonna happen, mtbs just keep getting more expensive.

  • @Gufolicious
    @Gufolicious Před 3 lety +5

    I dont know why you guys all hate on the price. Apparently there are plenty of people with the funds for that kind of purchase otherwise they would not be sold out everywhere. So stop hating go get a 2nd job if you want one too.

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 Před 3 lety +1

      I still have a 2008 car so I ordered one last week :P

  • @johnnyrock6576
    @johnnyrock6576 Před 3 lety +3

    Well done, Specialized. Excellent production on the video!

  • @iamgeneric1888
    @iamgeneric1888 Před 3 lety +6

    It is sad that people get so sad about the cost. If you can't justify the expense then don't buy one. Everyone makes there own value judgments on things like cars, houses , the city or suburb you live in, clothes etc. If it is not worth it to you then don't buy one. The companies don't seem to have any issue selling every bike they make.

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 Před 3 lety

      E-bikes are a high end option for those who cannot or WILL NOT pay their bicycle dues by putting in saddle time. I'm curious about ebikes, but, I'm not convinced they're a good fit for mtbiking. I'm no podium shredder, but, I get around just fine using John-power.

    • @UllrRoo
      @UllrRoo Před 3 lety

      Because the costs of mountain biking are getting insane, but as long as enough people pay it companies can justify the steep price tags. If everyone spoke by not spending that much prices would come down. There is no way the cost of production, R&D etc is more for a bicycle than a motorcycle or small car.

    • @tomnutting3836
      @tomnutting3836 Před 2 lety

      People love to have something to be jealous of and whinge about 🤣

  • @rolux4853
    @rolux4853 Před 3 lety +9

    That „ARMOR AGAINST THE CORPORATE MENTALITY“ shirt he is wearing is so ironic when reviewing this ridiculously expensive bike..

  • @robp3431
    @robp3431 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome detailed review with sweet riding !!! If I had those kinda trails, I would consider the Kenevo.

  • @j_manoffical6825
    @j_manoffical6825 Před 3 lety +14

    15k frick me dude

  • @ricusmate
    @ricusmate Před 3 lety +2

    My 2007 overbuilt Freeride/Enduro Kona was the same weight without a motor.

  • @benjy288
    @benjy288 Před 3 lety +6

    That's crazy expensive, you can get a brand new KTM 500 EXC-F six days for $13000, that's 2 grand cheaper than the top model Kenevo, and it has an internal combustion engine.

    • @ClarkBark14
      @ClarkBark14 Před 3 lety

      I was thinking a Yamaha 450, a supermoto wheelset, and a Slash and 2k left over...

    • @benjy288
      @benjy288 Před 3 lety

      @@ClarkBark14 Yep, you could even get a brand new Chevrolet Spark for less, who would of ever imagined a time when a new mountain bike would cost more than a new car?

    • @thepassionofthegoose5472
      @thepassionofthegoose5472 Před 2 lety

      Came here to say the exact same thing. My XR650R sumo built with the tastiest of tasty bits costs less than this thing, and will never lose value given it's desirability. I'd love an e-MTB, but not for proper bike money. I'll stick to pedaling, which is honestly better for me anyway.

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 Před 2 lety +1

      Yea but with mtb’s you can shred during the week with buddy’s. A lot easier and you get your fix 🤷🏼‍♂️.. I guess just depends on how you look at it . 🤙🏻

  • @dag681
    @dag681 Před 3 lety

    These prices make me love my derestricted 2019 Kenevo received new for $5300, freaking way more. The few changes are not gonna add anything to the absolute speed in the woods, over my bike. I use ECO mode to climb, other modes for flat out speed. Would i like it to weigh 42 pounds? For sure, but the trade off in absolute speed through rolling terrain that the new smaller motor delivers, drops the issue.

  • @leeridesmtb
    @leeridesmtb Před 7 měsíci

    Great video 👌🏼

  • @cdwag23
    @cdwag23 Před 2 lety

    Only $11,000? What a steal !

  • @robertonjr10
    @robertonjr10 Před 3 lety +4

    Isn't the suspension kitted Performance Elite??? I mean there is no difference just the Kashima Coating

    • @treyblakeandrew
      @treyblakeandrew Před 3 lety

      Fox discontinued the PE Float X2, so it’s definitely performance

    • @jasonschroeder2896
      @jasonschroeder2896 Před 3 lety

      The fork is same minus Kashima. The Fox Float X2 performance rear shock only has low speed compression and low speed rebound adjustment, plus independent open/firm lever for pedaling. The Factory X2 is Kashima coated and has high/low rebound and high/low compression adjustment, plus option for independent open/firm lever for pedaling.

  • @500whpSTI
    @500whpSTI Před 3 lety +4

    So will there be a comp version in the future? 11k is so out of range for probably 95% of the interested population

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim Před 3 lety

      8500 for the frame..

  • @da12641
    @da12641 Před 3 lety

    this type of Enduro ebike is indeed the future but the cost/price that Specialized and Orbea offers are just ridiculous!!

  • @remar2434
    @remar2434 Před 3 lety

    Only in my dreams

  • @kix17mtb55
    @kix17mtb55 Před rokem

    Hi Jason! I just had my kenevo sl expert and its been a lot of fun riding both uphill and downhill. This bike can bring you to a different level of skills.. i just wanna know whats the set up of your riding. Thank you

  • @thesolojourney8955
    @thesolojourney8955 Před 2 lety

    Plenty of decent bicycles out there for $3,000-5,000
    $11,000 is ridiculous but people will still get it…

  • @sebastianolagnier8430
    @sebastianolagnier8430 Před 3 lety +3

    Nice job Schroeder, great review

  • @MrCaiofern
    @MrCaiofern Před 3 lety +6

    must to be amazing, but I was waiting for a kenevo 180mm travel, double crown

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Před 3 lety +2

      First of all WHY? And for the second, you can put it on yourself...

    • @MrCaiofern
      @MrCaiofern Před 3 lety

      @@KapitanPisoar1 ok, thats fair. First, the trails I vve done since 2018 demand a 180 mm on the rear, or more. And the only reason I need an e-bike is to do go up the mountain without the necessity of any other kind of transportation. And what do you mean by I can do it by myself? like, i would buy this bike then buy a double crwn fork and still have 170mm in the rear ? it si waaaaayyyy too expensive and wouldn´t solve it.

    • @MrCaiofern
      @MrCaiofern Před 3 lety +1

      in 2018 specialized released the kenevo with 180mm but 27,5 . As all my bikes are 29ers I want a 29er bike to be compatible with the others, it is usefull when you travel or live in a place without bike shops nearby, as I do.
      In 2018 I got the 2019 stumpjumper and said that when specialized releases a kenevo 29er I would buy it. But this one here isn´t what I was expecting. I wish it was like the older model but bigger wheels. And I am not going to buy the older one and make it a mullet.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MrCaiofern Yeah everybody needs 180+ travel and coil these days....

  • @Ryan_Burney
    @Ryan_Burney Před 3 lety +2

    Great work Jason! Awesome review.

  • @Markley92
    @Markley92 Před 3 lety

    Can you dive deeper into the “rearward axle” and how it helped dh riding?

  • @wumbobo
    @wumbobo Před 3 lety +4

    HOW IS IT OUT OF STOCK ALREADY? WHO IS BUYING THIS STUFF?

    • @simonfarr8670
      @simonfarr8670 Před 3 lety

      shops placed pre-book orders for the bikes. my shop has several arriving in a few weeks. let me stress, you can. not. order. bikes. if the local shop doesn’t have them already on order.

    • @wumbobo
      @wumbobo Před 3 lety

      @@simonfarr8670 Dude let me know how many people actually end up buying them in your shop, I'm curious. At this point these bikes aren't even in dentist territory this is like neurosurgeon salary

    • @raupenimmersatt6906
      @raupenimmersatt6906 Před 3 lety

      @@wumbobo Lot of wealthy people are into E-MTBing (not normal MTBin!) and they pay every price as they dont have any idea about bikes in general.
      Who in their right mind buys S-Works E-Bikes? You can build up better stuff fof cheaper..

    • @TPV07
      @TPV07 Před 3 lety

      @@wumbobo doctors dont ride it is builders and tradesmen mate that is where the money is. Also most people get these bikes on cyclescheme saving loads on them. We had a small flooring company owner buying 5 hecklers couple of months ago in our shop One for every employee. He got them all on cyclescheme for them. Find a boss like that and you are good!

  • @greed1058
    @greed1058 Před 3 lety +2

    Basically this tells me that 11k gets you a really nice bike

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 Před 3 lety

      With some potentially perilous drawbacks (brake fade).

  • @BryceLovesTech
    @BryceLovesTech Před 3 lety +2

    I love mountain biking but can you imagine telling your wife you're going to pay $11,000 for the entry-level mountain bike. She would slap me silly

    • @johnnyrock6576
      @johnnyrock6576 Před 3 lety +1

      You could 'fill in the blank' for what type of bike it is....it's the HELL NO $11K price tag is all she'll hear! lol I do not consider this an 'entry level' bike, per se: it's more a 2nd? generation high-tech/high end electric enduro mtb. My camber-comp 29 was the Specialized entry level full squish XC back in 2013.The prices make the sport elitist. imo. happy shredding!

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 Před 3 lety

      The entry level (Comp) is 8500 tho

  • @trailsdetails4061
    @trailsdetails4061 Před 3 lety

    Having this bike is just a fancy way of saying 'I have too much disposable money'

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips Před 3 lety

      that's what someone who does not have the money to spend would say. Works both ways

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 Před 3 lety

      Not too bad if you still have a 2008 car like me

  • @harveycasey1900
    @harveycasey1900 Před 3 lety +2

    11 to 15 grand. HELL NO! I love to ride & really want an E bike but @ them prices. No way Jose.

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim Před 3 lety

      Yup, YT Industries $5600 model with 36/X2 and H1700 is the best deal atm followed by the Trek Rail. Specialized - great bikes but they are going way too high.

  • @akabukiman
    @akabukiman Před 2 lety

    Funny what's considered as "wet" here. If my hometrails look like this, I use to call them dry 😂.

  • @samhayman5191
    @samhayman5191 Před 3 lety +23

    Any human willing to spend that on a bike needs their head checked.

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips Před 3 lety +6

      life is too short to worry about bullshit. If you want it. Buy it

    • @deankruse2891
      @deankruse2891 Před 3 lety +4

      If you can afford it, buy it

    • @gaud1977
      @gaud1977 Před 3 lety +1

      Can I say the same for 40K+ cars . So I still have a 2008 car, so I bought a Kenevo SL last week

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 Před 2 lety

      #yolo💯😎🤤

  • @kawasaki000000000000
    @kawasaki000000000000 Před 3 lety

    For the people that are purchasing this bike is it going to hurt there pocket that much more for paying the 450 for the other battery pac?

  • @rm2005nz
    @rm2005nz Před 3 lety

    'Never mind the bike how are the new Afton shoes

  • @cdabcdefg12345
    @cdabcdefg12345 Před 3 lety +9

    Wow. A shirt that says "armor against the corporate mentality" while reviewing this bike. Why won't mountain bikers apply any sort of ethics to our ridiculous consumption of brand new bikes and constant upgrades?

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  Před 3 lety +6

      This was a product review by an independent media outlet of a newly-released product. We said what was good and we said what was bad. Now, people have more information on how this bike performs in the real world and can decide if this is a good bike for them. We trust our readers/viewers to make up their own minds about what is worth a given dollar amount.

  • @cstudi
    @cstudi Před 3 lety

    I've been saying this and specialized is close but.. If they try to go go even deeper into the less is moreness... call it "the shuttlle".. with only the bottle cage battery that you could swap at your parked car or... where ever combined with an even smaller motor offering less assist... maybe... hit 35 - 36 lbs.. oof..

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim Před 3 lety

      Pivot's emtb is called the Shuttle.

  • @ethandeift1989
    @ethandeift1989 Před 3 lety

    I want this so badly

  • @filipw8050
    @filipw8050 Před 3 lety

    I think the shirt is a sign.

  • @vbadbee9123
    @vbadbee9123 Před 3 lety

    what up with a review of the turbo kenevo?? Man picking a standard bike is hard. now Picking a e bike is double as hard.

  • @stupidmoto
    @stupidmoto Před 3 lety

    A 2021 Honda CRF450R is 11k out the door from a dealership, which gets you 60hp and 12 inches of suspension travel. This bicycle gets you people thinking you have more money than brains.

    • @chickenclips
      @chickenclips Před 3 lety +3

      your comparison makes me think you have no brains

  • @trailfork7815
    @trailfork7815 Před 3 lety +3

    and I thought spending 8k on my bike is stupid AF lmao

  • @stevenschiff808
    @stevenschiff808 Před 3 lety

    My I use "fresh lomers" please?

  • @TheSkurf
    @TheSkurf Před 2 lety

    When lots of people have money and want to buy some dank shit, manufactures can’t even keep up, guess what happen$? Inflation is a bitch and we are just getting started. I suggest if you want the bike, then buy it, cause it isn’t going to be getting any cheaper in the future

  • @geekane9462
    @geekane9462 Před 3 lety +2

    320w battery and a higher price? Something doesn't click here. Paying more but getting less. I get that they're trying to make it lighter but on an ebike weight isn't much concern. And "proven" suspension technology; FSR Horst linkage is about 30 years old so yeah, its been around awhile. Suspension has come a long way since then. Oh well. Whatever Specialized.

  • @chrism5768
    @chrism5768 Před 3 lety

    Literally more than any dirt bike that I know of now. The mark up is just wrong. It has to be

  • @asceticscorpio972
    @asceticscorpio972 Před 3 lety

    Now wait just a second there, I believe I misheard you . . . Right at the end did you say one more descent or another descent? Because it sounded like one more, but that can't be so because we ALL KNOW the end result of "one more" . . .

  • @solotraveller4351
    @solotraveller4351 Před 3 lety

    You can buy a bike like this but your will never buy a dinosaur

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 Před 3 lety

      I think at these price point there is a museum somewhere in the world that will sell you one..

  • @antcramp
    @antcramp Před 3 lety +1

    $15K can get you 1/4 Bitcoin.
    Wait a year and buy 20 bikes.

  • @overweightbadger
    @overweightbadger Před 3 lety +3

    Too expensive even for dentists

    • @elyhim
      @elyhim Před 3 lety

      Particularly when you have to get the wheels

  • @James-dn1hu
    @James-dn1hu Před 3 lety +1

    Looks a bit like a giga

  • @LongbranchOlivetti
    @LongbranchOlivetti Před 3 lety

    In what world is a 20KG bike acceptable and how is Specialized getting away with calling it "super light".

    • @dookie3453
      @dookie3453 Před 3 lety +1

      If you didn’t realise it’s an e bike..

    • @Shauny808
      @Shauny808 Před 2 lety

      Comp is out now, and the spec is terrible. 36 Rhythm 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @RM-yc3dq
    @RM-yc3dq Před 3 lety +2

    Too expensive

  • @Amadeus2231
    @Amadeus2231 Před 3 lety

    and the cheapest model is $11,000?! like I could buy two bikes for that price

  • @lostwithasmile485
    @lostwithasmile485 Před 3 lety +1

    Get a Cake for that $$

  • @crush1221
    @crush1221 Před 3 lety +1

    Specialized prices wtf

  • @RideLowCo
    @RideLowCo Před 3 lety +10

    11k for shit specs , only specialized

  • @nillkellog7832
    @nillkellog7832 Před 3 lety

    What is this world coming too.

  • @mamukaenuqidze151
    @mamukaenuqidze151 Před 3 lety +2

    Price👎👎👎

  • @noobsinthewoods5194
    @noobsinthewoods5194 Před 3 lety

    Bike world Apple

  • @Mavo1989
    @Mavo1989 Před 3 lety +1

    poor bloke doing this is so damn monotone and no enthusiasm or fun you unfortunately zone out to him talking

  • @shrimpfriedrice494
    @shrimpfriedrice494 Před 3 lety +1

    $450 for a battery lol

  • @batipapo
    @batipapo Před 3 lety

    And I thought my Moto was expensive

    • @eatnpooter1634
      @eatnpooter1634 Před 2 lety

      Moto doesn’t even compare budget wise ... mtb’s waaaay cheaper every way you look @ it .

  • @KapitanPisoar1
    @KapitanPisoar1 Před 3 lety +10

    Any reason not to buy a dirt bike, over this nonsense?

    • @SuperEarplugs
      @SuperEarplugs Před 3 lety +6

      I mean you can ride bicycle pretty much anywhere, but I was thinking the same thing. You could buy a brand new dirt bike for 11k. These bicycles aren't even remotely worth it

    • @brentyancich
      @brentyancich Před 3 lety +1

      Incredible bike, hopefully the technology becomes more affordable in the near future.

    • @KapitanPisoar1
      @KapitanPisoar1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SuperEarplugs That's what I mean. You can ride anywhere on your MTB and if you wanna ride using motor, you might aswell get the dirt bike and keep your dignity. Also eMTBs are being banned from many trails, which is a good thing...

    • @twizzlestix9309
      @twizzlestix9309 Před 3 lety +3

      No. Better value for money and then you don’t have to lie yourself you’re still “exercising” when you go for a ride.

    • @twizzlestix9309
      @twizzlestix9309 Před 3 lety +4

      @@SuperEarplugs they are to rich people who don’t actually want to push themselves on a ride. I see them all the time where I live in the Bay Area, cruising top speed uphill convincing themselves they are mountain biking while they don’t come close to breaking a sweat.

  • @LeadMunitions
    @LeadMunitions Před 3 lety

    15,000 dollars…just ludicrous 😂 never thought I would see the day🤡

  • @nilog8587
    @nilog8587 Před 3 lety +7

    At the end its just a shitty ebike

  • @grandpabill3286
    @grandpabill3286 Před 3 lety

    Actually ima buy a car

  • @ricardojorgedelgadopinto134

    Very good...but stupid expensive.
    More expensive than lots of good motos and Cars... The industry takes advantaged of our passion... But we are not all milionares ☹️ and honestly you dont have in that bike more mecanics or eletric than in a moto...so why that price???

    • @TheSkurf
      @TheSkurf Před 2 lety

      It’s a combination of demand, manufacturing scarcity, the cost of R&D, inflation and the quality of material. All of that combined in this current economic climate means the market is willing to pay a premium to get this product. A lot of people have a lot of money at the moment, our means of production cannot keep up with our credit cards

  • @esdubya
    @esdubya Před 3 lety +1

    Is it a surprise that a new model Ferrari is much lighter and faster in places than a Ford. But that price difference🤯.
    For me, like Ferrari’s I don’t care how much they are🤷🏽‍♂️ I probably will never see one let alone ride one
    For 11-15 k are we are not surprised that it’s good, We’re surprised that you think any normal person will buy one!
    It’s a business model that makes more enemies than friends.
    Thumbs up if you love specialised more for making the most overpriced mtbs 👎🏽

  • @loamchasers
    @loamchasers Před 3 lety

    Why would you want one anyway?? Get to the gym it’s cheaper😂

  • @chrisuhracing
    @chrisuhracing Před 3 lety

    Acoustic bike, get in the sea 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @amberridenhour1411
    @amberridenhour1411 Před 3 lety +4

    This will be the last time I watch this channel. So tired of this ebike push from these yt bike channels. It’s disgraceful. Ebikes are not the same thing as a mountain bike. One is a motor bike the other is not. Really hope that more bike trails continue to ban these things. My local trails just put a ban on them after complaints from bikers and hikers. You want to ride a motored bike, cool go for it. Just stop pretending it’s the same thing, stop pretending you are exercising, and stay off trails not built for motored bikes.

    • @encore159
      @encore159 Před 3 lety +2

      Never heard such bullshit in my life ever before. Just let people ride what they want lol. Literally none of your business whether some people want some assistance going up a hill. You must be a sad unhappy individual

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  Před 3 lety +4

      We do agree with you on one thing - we do not say that e-bikes are mountain bikes. They are different, for sure. Part of what Vital does is bring objective product testing to our readers and viewers. The vast majority of our reviews are centered on mountain biking. Yes, we do review e-bikes as well but on a less frequent basis. Our goal is to inform people how a new product performs and holds up under our top-tier testers. People interested in e-bikes can learn more about what features they have and how they take a beating. People not interested in e-bikes, just don't watch that content (but come back for all the rad mountain bike content!)

    • @encore159
      @encore159 Před 3 lety +2

      @@vitalmtb lol how is an e-MTB not a mountainbike ? It is literally the exact same thing other than that it helps you up the hill if u want it to do so. I find the ongoing e-bike hate so sickening. It really shows how pathetic people are nowadays. Caring about wether other people ride Mountainbikes that have some pedal assist or not... How sad does ones life have to be to get angry about that?

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  Před 3 lety +3

      @enCore Nobody is angry at anybody, well, we aren't at least! There's no "hating" here. Different isn't bad, different is good. Different is people having fun on different toys!

    • @Miasunn165
      @Miasunn165 Před 3 lety +1

      Have you ridden an ebike long term to write such an opinion? It can do wonders for older riders and those with disabilities and for many it’s no faster then a regular bike. For trails requiring 1000ft and more climbs it opens up new adventures. These are not motorcycles no diff then a in shape 20yr old riding.

  • @antn8387
    @antn8387 Před 3 lety

    gtfo with those prices. I can buy a vehicle, bike rack, and full suspension bike and still have money left over.