How to make Snus out of Cheap Cigarette Tobacco!
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My last batch was made from American Bold "pipe" tobacco. I really appreciated how much less work it was compared to whole leaf tobacco.
But used plain that stuff was terrible. Didn't compare to my earlier batches at all. I would definitely flavor it.
Where I live pipe tobacco is way more expensive than cigarettes. $120 for 50g all day long. A cigarette is about 0.70 g of tobacco when you strip it down. Two packs of 50's cigarettes (cheapest) would be cheaper than pipe tobacco, but that on it's own is nasty. I mix the two. But I then ballsed my batch up by following your aging recipe and instead using sodium bicarbonate instead of carbonate which wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't for the fact the tobacco already had alkalizers in it as it wasn't raw. So now it's like snorting fizzwizz. :( Note to viewers: Follow his directions verbatim, don't double alk your snuff like an idiot (i.e. me!)
in sweden a "dosa"/case is 42g for loose snus and cost about 65 SEK a case. if i did a batch of 500 grams of pre-grinded tobacco i got to about 2 to 3 SEK for each case. nowadays they raised the tax by 1000% for ALL tobacco that can be used to make snus from or smoke or i do not know all the details they wanted, so i bought approx 60 kilograms of raw tobacco before the date the tax rule applied lol. 60kgs of bone dry tobaccoi means at least 120kg's of ready to use snus. plus i also grow my own tobacco in my backyard in a small scale just for fun. i hope i will never ever have to buy snus from the shops again. (i do the 24/12 hour procedure in oven at 90 degrees celsius though, no slowcookers or pressured ones). informative video!
The Virginia i get is usually sweet. ive never had it smell like hay like u said. I used pipe tobacco and it came out pretty good
This recipe makes some really good dip and very bad snus.
Here's a good tip, use a vacuum sealer being careful to just vacuum lightly to just get the air out......no freezer burn ......fresher longer !!! Portion it out to how much you'd use in let's say a week at a time, or whatever you like,
P.S. another thought here, if you think you might want to get into your snus regularly... use a vacuum canister (they sell them next to the vacuum food sealers) of various sizes. That way the vacuum won't crush your snus like the bag will if you take the pressure down too much. I really like the canisters for things I either don't want to crush, and if I want to get into it, then re-vacuum the canister.......... then back in the fridge, Snus in dark jars-w-lids on as if you were canning then set jar/jars in the vacuum canister, attach the tube and remove the air !!! Have fun 👍
I've watched enough videos. I appreciate your information. I'm trying to make a long cut Copenhagen dip currently...
Do you have a background in tobacco?
I’ve been thinking about seriously going in for my tobacconist certification, even if I don’t apply for a job as one!
Another good upload!
I ruined my second batch somehow by letting it consist in 2/3 of virginia. Bought it in bulk were I bought my Burley, both were described as natural raw tobacco leaves.
The snus made from it tastes very bitter, burnt leather like. Can't use it unless I water it down with at least the same amount of pure Burley snus. And even then I don't really like it.
Later I was told that the virginia was flue cured, whereas I read that the snus industry almost exclusively uses air cured. I thought that might be the problem but I assume the virginia you were using in this video is flue cured too?
Yeah! I have no problem using even the darkest fire cured leaves.
Feel free to shoot me an email and I’ll help you sort it out. The snus discord is another great way to reach me.
I forgot to ask what’s the safest way to store it? I have 200 g’s of regular cut with bold I added 16 grams carbonate and 20 grams salt. Is it safe to store in the fridge or will it mold? Also is the mold visible if so? It turned out great to literally I quit dipping regular dip off of it. The taste is excellent thanks for giving out these recipes!
Same rules as regular dip and snus - freeze for the long term, and keep it at room temp for up to two weeks after opening.
Snus usually dries before it molds, so if you see anything that you suspect to be mold - stay safe! Throw it out! You can always make more
Great series of videos. Got some Burley that I grew. Thinking of blending it with maybe American Spirit cig tobacco to make snus. Burley maybe ok by Itself with no alkaline? First batch, just got pressure cooker. Also, any idea of flavors needed to replicate Roda Lackett? Thanks
I think burley, especially air cured burley, makes a fantastic snus - sometimes the perique in some American Spirit blends can be a little off in a snus cook.
Roda Lacket is very, very lightly flavored with apricot. You will get pretty close with a plain, unflavored snus (add a little licorice powder to bring it closer to RL’s subtle sweetness before you get fancy with the essences).
Why no alkalizer?
Snus At Home I was concerned that the Burley (air cured) might be too high in nicotine and maybe not so good flavor. Will try it by itself. Trying to grow Virginia variety, but harder to grow. So maybe add 5 grams sodium carbonate per 100 grams flour with 100 percent Burley? Thanks for the great information. I’ve read some of the studies on snus and I think it’s relatively benign health-wise. What’s your experience/observation? Looking for purely anecdotal information that might not be tainted with an agenda like a formal study done by a tobacco company or govt agency.
I haven’t had any health problems from snus whatsoever. I have heard that some nicotine pouch users have raw gums after using it, but nicotine pouches for the most part (especially towards the higher strength spectrum) tend to have some pretty caustic stuff in them.
Use common sense, brush your teeth and floss twice daily, and you’ll be fine. I can’t give medical advice, but good hygiene is paramount to a healthy mouth.
Thanks for the reply. Snus seems pretty mild, not like smoking cigarettes or chewing Copenhagen all day. I’m curious what the consensus of opinion is in the Scandinavian countries where they’ve been using snus widespread for a long time. You’ve got the best series of vids on snus and I’m amazed at how much knowledge you have on the subject. Thanks!
$13 for a pound? 2.2 pounds per kilo. I just paid $120 for the ONLY tin of pipe tobacco available in over 8 tobacco shops I visited to make snuff with. It's 100 grams. Your pound is 2,200 grams. I paid for a tiny, tiny amount of tobacco what would buy you TEN POUNDS of tobacco. Australia sucks, man. :(
:^( Get well soon, Australia
Checking with a store at the Rez (reserve) if they have some tobacco leaves
There's so much to learn on your channel. I really like it. Thanks. I saw you mention selling something on a video. Is this still available and what all is there. Website, eBay account,etc. Thanks.
Question: I’m from Canada and snus (and dip) are ridiculously priced. Ive actually never tried snus, I plan on buying a can and trying it, but I usually dip. And I’ve been really wanting to try your recipes because I’m wanting to get into snus! I don’t know how I’d be able to order any snus online without getting heavily taxed at the border coming in. And I don’t even know if buying whole leaf tobacco is an option in Canada.
So I’m thinking I might have to just buy cigarette tobacco like you are using. But I don’t think we sell any completely natural rolling tobacco. Nor would I know how’s it’s cured or anything (flu or fire cured).
Sorry I know this is stupidly long, but my question is: does regular cigarette tobacco contain a shit ton of nasty chemicals? And would it be nasty and damaging to my health compared to proper tobaccos used for Swedish snus ?
(Edited) 2nd question: does using the instant pot leave a lingering tobacco smell, even after washing? I was going to borrow my friends, but they don’t want me using it if it leaves an odor
Anyone with knowledge on this, and my options as a canadian, please help a guy out! Thanks!
The shit ton of nasty chemicals is usually just part of the tobacco paper making process they use as filler for cheap manufactured cigarettes. Most of the wild shit is a byproduct of combustion or really dirt cheap filler. Any middling quality RYO tobacco should do just fine!
As for your second question, no. The smell is barely distinguishable even immediately after a cook, and it's kind of this faint vegetable/chocolate odor. Chicken breast and onions will reek up an instant pot much more - but as with the stank from those, a rinse in the sink gets rid of all of it (stainless steel is anti-odor to begin with).
Good luck, Canadian man. Most of the whole leaf tobacco retailers who ship to the United States also ship to Canada, and I don't believe you'll be taxed as harshly as you might think for this unmolested leaf.
@@SnusAtHome dude thanks for the reply! I did some digging on that fair trade tobacco forum and found people discussing Canadian options, and it looks like the tobacco won’t be taxed much at all, so I’m pumped. I ordered a pound of burley as well as a pound of Kentucky dark fired (I wanna try your dip recipe also). I wish I would’ve gotten a little Virginia as I hear you mention it’s quite tasty in a few of your videos. Oh well, next time I guess! I just wish it would’ve arrived in time for me to make a batch before going back away to work for two weeks haha. I’ll be super impatient to get home to try my first cook!
Thanks again for the reply sir. You’re videos are a god send!
Can I do this in an old school pressure cooker? Should I try to keep it at 10 psi which would be closer to an instant pot pressure or would the 15 psi that it sits at a full boil be alright?
Absolutely! As long as the pressure is the same, it should be alright.
If it comes out a little undercooked, no harm in popping it back in for another hour at pressure.
@@SnusAtHome this is exactly what I did and it came out very well. I didn't think I would enjoy the licorice powder but it adds so much to the flavor of the snus. Thank you so much for this recipe. You are the man. I'm excited to make this one with my home grown tobacco this year.
@@elevatednorthglass I'm glad you enjoy it! A lot of anglophones get a little spooked by licorice root (probably those aniseed/"licorice" candies in mixed sweets throwing you off when you're a kid), but it really is a very dynamic ingredient. Lots of things get fixed and improved when it's added.
There's a reason sailors have been adding it to tobacco shipments for centuries!
We’re can you find the fire cure tobacco
Can I use any cigarette tobacco and do I have to use the same type of tobacco as in the video?
Any type of cigarette tobacco that is unflavored should do :^)
I find any cigarette tobacco I've used tastes very bitter no matter what I do to it flavor wise..pipe tobacco has been the best, however I am used cigar clippings before with great results..
Blends vary, for sure. Cigar clippings would probably do awesome!
Brother can I use this to also make nasal snuff or ultra unsafe?
I've used it before, and while it doesn't make anything super special, it's totally fine as a base to use for scenting or blending with other condimental tobaccos!
Thanks!
Do add wash soda after or before you cook it?
After! But I don't think that it has any deleterious effect if added before. I just like knowing that nothing was lost in the addition.
can you also use sodiumbicarbonate?
(Copy+pasted from another reply for the same question)
It does have to be sodium carbonate or potassium carbonate; you can use a little baking soda after the fact (both sodium carbonate and bicarbonate are used in most manufactured dips), but baking soda won't have the same pH adjustment effect that the carbonate has.
You can make sodium carbonate out of baking soda really easily, though! czcams.com/video/cpGEc-pLXN4/video.html
I guess You can use bicarbonte. I don't know if using the pressure cooker would be safe though (never used it myself for anything in my life): there will be some CO2 produced when heat is applied, so there might be too much pressure in the pressure cooker.
Safe bet would be 90-100 °C water bath or steam cook of mason jars, or baking in the oven.
100 g of bicarbonate will be decomposed by heat to: 63.1 g of carbonate +10.7 g of H2O +26.2 g of CO2. So You'll have to make calculations of how much water and carbonate You'll need in your final product.
I know for a fact they boil sodium bicarbonate, as a substitute of carbonate, in water to make Chimó in South America and to make Toombak in Sudan with great success.
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The tobacco tax with pipe tobacco etc is ATF not fda though both are tobacco taxing fools
13 a pound isnt cheap. 4 a pound is what we pay. idk where you live, but it sucks lol. explains your inefficient method for wasting time making snus that cant compare to what we do up here in the mountains. you city boys are freakin adorable
Ok gimme kiss 💋
@@SnusAtHome that's wrong on so many levels 😅😅😅