Migrants face deportation as South Africa curbs special permits
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- čas přidán 6. 10. 2022
- South Africa has been a magnet for people seeking better economic opportunities, or even just better healthcare, from across the African continent.
But calls to ensure jobs and business opportunities go to South Africans are getting louder, and the government is looking to revamp its immigration policies.
Thousands of people from Zimbabwe and Lesotho are legally working or studying in the country, but with special permits being terminated, foreigners now have to prove that they have critical skills that South Africa needs.
Al Jazeera's Haru Mutasa reports from Johannesburg, South Africa.
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Situation has gone unregulated for a very long time. You can be a generous host until it starts affecting your kids.
And most South Africans don't see that
People should respect our borders
Well Zimbabweans was never taught that or to respect anyone or anywhere. They are untolerable
How if we do not even bother to defend them? They should be made an example of if they take advantage.
Earth have no borders
@@Coneelfrancis that's delusional
South Africa is doing a great job.... they have to protect their borders.... have skills and you can live in South Africa
Not necessarily, SA can do what fits SA and their pockets unapologetic , than listening from a distance what is not in the country's interest, where its people are dealing with different, disturbing, undesirable, various problems from the continent and some from the outside world. Anyone saying things and has no clue of, is as good as someone who depends on hear say. Because anyone who thinks he /she has a heart of gold to save the world, go for it, and invite all these folks in your house with pleasure. Or else you have said nothing from the distance.
When Botswana was deporting zimbos there was no noise everytime when we try to enforce our laws we are labelled xenophobic when we deport illegal people they say it's xenophobic I guess this word applies only on south africa when we ban n deport Europeans and Asians we don't see an outcry about xenophobia
If it is benefiting us let it be
Don't listen to what they say, their xenophobia excuse. Do what you feel right in your country. That's the fear of SAns, afraid to be seen as unfair. And they fear of being labeled, though they're labeled for being too kind and human as lazy anyway. Just change tune and stop caring and behave like they do. They are cruel thieves with no respect and steal in daylight in front of your eyes and killing and robbery is their hobby because they are not documented and cannot be arrested and trialed. They can't repair the country they dismantled and vandalized properties. But they are not arrested or deported, and are here without apologizing and repairing. So give one reason to love people like that. And where do you get love and tolerance from, for such millions of disrespectful masses. Man they have homelands, I don't even see why they must be discussed here in SA. We should be addressing their problems in their home countries as intervention. These people are deserting their countries and abandoning their homes and families and give us headaches at our borders, facilities and more that's all they do, in fact we don't need them. Their countries need their skills. Still I don't understand that all other countries chasing them back to their homelands. No one is putting blame on those countries like Ghana, Botswana, Zambia and no one screaming anything. But when it comes to SA, everyone needs to be heard that they have said something no matter knowing or not knowing how they're saying something they don't even have clue of. SAns please SAns and put SA first in the line and protect our country from legal or illegal invaders and jackals with all we have. Days of waiting for government to do his job successfully is over. Since all our 3 presidents had no interest to do so, it is now that all SAns take responsibility to protect our children's inheritance, our land. ALUTA CONTINUA ✊
Because of Helen Suzman and chitando and captured judges . 2024 all current judges should be made redundant and new judges be appointed Pro SA sothat they throw HS cases out court and that fool chitando who thinks he is SA
African leaders must make their countries work for their citizens and stop stealing money ment for service delivery 🙄
South Africans have a point to put their people first
I'm a South African, born and raised. We love immigrants. We are not like Americans. We welcome everyone.
@@mclovin1071 welcome those legal not illegal
@@innocentgoitseone3715 legality vs humanity. Pick one.
@@mclovin1071 which South Africa are talking about nokuphapha
@@mclovin1071 legality. Humanity doesn't cover the money spent trying to fix infrastructure damage nor problems
This so-called Helen Suzman foundation, claiming to be an NGO INSIDE South Africa, need to DEFINE their mission statement, they owe that to the SAcan citizens.
All NGOs are globalist
Many useless NGOs harbouring criminals there are ndebele criminals who mug people who live in their building in the CBD
Well said...
They act like a shadow government, as if their voice(whites) is more important than the people(Bantu,Bathwa) . This is an organisation built solely against South Africans n exists to protect apartheid wealth n exclude blacks from SA economy, coz forbid blacks taking over camps bay n landudno or buying their ancestral land back from European African thieves(Helen suzman
Zimbabweans must go home to vote for a change
not only Zimbabweans but all this Arab muslim people, Nigerians, Mozambicans, Malawians etc should all leave
I advise this lady to apply for other permits and if she does not qualify it is what it is. SA must prioritize its citizens first.
South Africa government doesn't priotize it's citizens we live a painful life cause we compete with foreigners who don't pay tax,that's why they don't want to leave our country,we have a useless minister of Labour who is fat and incompetent,a president who goes around and kissing old women on the lips 💋,SA is the only country in the world that pay too much tax to SARS and now they want to increase VAT by 1% on almost everything we are oppressed as citizens,only so called politicians live large while we as ordinary citizens pay for them and foreigners to enjoy this country
let them go to middle east.. we are full
Brilliant idea or China
Honestly, SA is full especially JHB and DUR.
Whoever cursed that country to have its people not want to go back must have been very fedup and thorough.
@@not.likely Not as long as they have the same regime in power.
African leaders cursed their own Africa. Anti white sentiment and the anti white drive was kept alive to prop up popular politics and Presidents but few ever brought meaningful development to their nations or fufilled their promises to the people.
They've had a field day enriching themselves, their political comrades, family and friends, but overall they left the majority to their own means, with little adress to their plight.
They blamed poverty on the white institutions and accused Western governments for sabotaging or disengaging them from global wealth, but today, black Africans are better educated and have begun to see who really walked over them.
Black Presidents call for an African approach to Africa...were only made for self gain or in ignorance, as if they knew better than western institutions on the numerous aspects of raising nations. Pride always comes before a fall.
Now that African populations have grown in size, Africa has started to discover that the best chances of progress and developing sustainable economies lie with western systems, technology and administrations, who've been through these problems before...people are the same wherever you go.
To ignore first world experience, including not dealing with corruption, has proved time and again to be the first step along a very rocky road and why Africa and the like, has fallen so far behind.
Surprising as it may seem, wealth and poverty have a lot in common. Wealth being a condition that only materializes decades and decades, even centuaries and in response to correct decision making.
Poverty, is very similar. It also doesn't happen over night. It is characteristically as incremental as wealth, differing mainly in appearance. Owing to consistent wrong decision making, poverty eventuates in a condition of utter depletion, leaving in abundance very little of value
@@samuelt.kisaame7787 Regime change is what it's all about. People will lose their lives...so, who and how many are prepared to die?
Regime change in Africa is indeed the existential crisis facing Africans. Do they sufficient faith to embrace new leaderships and the modern world 'or' do they prefer to remain within the security of the popular African mindset.
If they opt for modernity, Africans will have to reschedule a significant percentage of their current beliefs and methods...attached to the obvious risks of change in leadership. After the change, Africa will go forward fast.
If they opt for popular leadership, Africans will have yo tolerate many more years of suffering before the old guard are obsoleted or slowly die out.
There is still no garantee that any change will be forthcoming, because African leaders are masters of promises but mostly fail to deliver.
Whichever route, young Africa cannot ignore global progress or that they are being left behind. As much as any educated person can't regress or undo the acquisition of knowledge, so also must Africa urgently define, the route and the rate forward, before it loses any more if it's inherited or acquired advantages
Make noise in your own country to make it better, stop running to other countries.
Here's a thing, here we are fighting for Zimbabwe but Zimbabweans are not fighting for Zimbabwe. When have you ever heard of Zimbabweans going on strike to have their government removed or to have sanctions removed?
When you're fed up you strike, that's how you get the world's attention. Everyone does it, but not Zimbabweans, we clearly just assuming that these people are not happy with the situation at home because they've never demonstrated it.
It's about time anyway
Other countries already do that, Canada, Australia, U.S, EU member states: "If you want to legally migrate, you either have to be rich and invest in the country, buy a property or two, or you need to have qualification and experience to do a skilled job in STEM fields".
Not really, in America you just go to Mexico and then just walk over here.....its pretty much open border
@@jl6075 stop lying, it’s not.
Not if you're muslim or black ... Stop lying ...
It's unfortunate but South Africa has the highest unemployment rate on the continent. SA citizens first!
Not thousands, millions of Zimbas live in SA, Many without a basic document, passport.
The Helen Suzman Guy is talking from a position of privilege. Ask him if he has ever spoken to the poor , unemployed and vulnerablenSAcans. I doubt if he has ever been to any of the Townships and villages in SA. these Suzman people are simply shocking, there are millions of SAcans who are poor and unemployed who are struggling but they find it perfectly normal for them to fight for Zimbabweans in SA to be prioritised ahead of poor and vulnerable SAcans. Their "sympathy " to Zimbabweans who are far better off than por SAcans who are staying at home while the Zimbabweans are employed is clearly suspect. It is a fact that low skilled Zimbas have literally replaced POOR SAcans. which country can allow that. All African countries including Zimbabwe have prioritizes the jobs Zimbabweans are doing in SA for the Zimbabweans. This fake sympathy of the likes of Helen Suzman must be looked into and must be exposed and checked. These are some of the people who are doing "researches" about migration. It would be interesting to see their population and Samples. Never believe people who depend on funding and therefore sing for their supper. If Helen Suzman was truly sympathetic organisation and cared for the poor they would have started and focussed on the 60%+unemployed SAyouth. So for me, they are being hypocritical. I bet most of their domestic workers are Zimbabweans, in SA which has the highest unemplyment rate in the world. they are fighting for people who have similar low skilled jobs being reserced for them alone.
the question I always ask myself is that who speaks for the poor and vulnerable SAcans, who have to share poor Healthcare, overcrowded schools with illegal immigrants? Whi speaks for the 60%+ unemployed youth,. This hypocrisy must be exposed and be called by its real name!!! Qhaaaa, Gaaa!!!
If you want to annoy these hypocrites of so called leaders touch the subjects of annoying 👉Zimbabweans and foreigners. 🤣🤣🤣 Amakhulu amagwala namaphixiphixi of semi leadership 😂😂😂 .
This is why they were killing them in the farms and stealing from them.
Suzman guy ✡️
they need those poor desperate stupid foreigners to stay in SA coz they know once we've dealt with them we are coming for white people
@@beautifulprogressivewester4156 I suspect you are one of those "woke" individuals the west is producing these days. Hijacking any cause just to make yourself relevant somehow. Anyway one thing is clear.... Your comments have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Please go advocate the replanting of gum trees in Australia or something..... we are talking real people problems here.
Kwerekweres must Go. We are tired of the emotional blackmail.
Futsek man!!!
She must be go home as we 've same people in our country struggling in life
At the end of the day so long as you are in a foreign country you need to be legal.
We are not anti anyone, we just don’t have enough for our people as well
True.
south africans bavukile ngoku. asiyibhemi sonke inyawupe benicinga silele
Basjwayela kabi
Yes it's right we cant go to any country and stay there like we want. As they say nothing is Mahala
Good job, now South Africa is making some moves
In Gauteng we do have children who are from Eastern Cape or Limpopo who are forced to learn Zulu because of not getting spaces in the schools were they can learn their own mother tongue 🤷 cc who is from Zimbabwe your children with definitely adapt to Shona back home
Here in South Africa we have very scarce and limited resources which is why the government is putting us first. Everyone at their homes should be put first because you will always be on the second position to your neighbors.
We as host nation are tired. They should go back and fix their countries
Honestly, the burden is too much for SA....the citizens have the right to complain.
It's your country let your son need to know you're where about stop complaining just put pressure to your government nxa I'm sick of this
She's too ignorant
Nonsense reporting, to say that Lesotho and Zimbabweans are legal is misleading as there are significant number of illegal immigrants in SA and them moving to SA is not always economical reasons.
It must be horrible in Zimbabwe and Lesotho if they seek refuge and opportunity in South Africa, an incredibly corrupt nation with prevalent violence and homicide.
Human rights abuses go unchecked in Zim. As for Lesotho... It is more dangerous than SA and no they are not seeking any refuge in SA, they live here, and no one is wrecking their brain trying to control their ins and outs, just their criminality.
These illegals are adding to the crime in the country. Imagine taking people who have no money. Obviously, they are going to resort to crime
People must go and fix their native countries and stop fleeing their countries. Viva Dudula
There a lots of illegal black and white South African in UK having nowhere to go to. Stop this nonsense that South African people are staying in their country. Infact most want to run away from the violence and crimes.
but the Zimbabwe government said every thing is good in Zimbabwe so I don't understand why they don't want to go home.
We need to deal with this repoter who lied and said he was robbed in SA I think it's high time we deal with him decisively in Twitter
We did and she has deleted that twit
those permits were expiring since around 2010, it just got another extension
That special permit was not supposed to happen, now look at what has happened?
For once a white man understand our cry, forget about H S F they are preparing themselves to go back to their father land,if you are not with poor S Africans go
Correction there are 180k permit issued by our government, but there are millions of Zimbabweans who flocked to SA. Where do they work and what are they sustaining their lives without being involved in illegal activities to send money home?
I'm South African and l say law-abiding foreigners should stay and criminals should go. It's just politics at play here.
Reporting the truth as it is and showing views from both sides . Thank you very much for your impartial reporting.
She needs to go. As long as your visa has expired you need to leave. She is not a victim.
no such thing as unlimited migration to any country
You have never been to south africa I see we have way too many undocumented migrants they around 8 million all together
London is majority non European.
says someone who puts migrants in the refugee camps in the bushes in his own country mxm, shut up
Send the Nigerians first.then send the ANC
Worried about your house helper & farm boy or does Nigeria have exemption permits?
@@afrikan-queen8771 no idea what you talking about but you can go with them lol
@@carlomikhailreid4365 why should you tell us who must go first cause all of them need to go we started with the loudmouth stinky armpit the rest will follow as for me ain't going anywhere since I belong here don't know about you who is worried about who leave 1st.
Everything must go now even these Nigerians everything we are tired now even these Mozambique carmakers they must voetsek we need to fix this country we need a referendum to remove the mafia organization from power
They conveniently gloss over the big issue of illegal immigrants here. That's where the initial outcry started, because we're tired of being oppressed in our own country, yet again. Enough is enough. We didn't run to other countries no, we stayed and fought for our liberation to improve our living situations at home. Those from other countries must do the same. Can't be running away from home forever and expect to be welcome when you are becoming a burden in your host country.
More importantly, why the international politics influence governance of these poorly managed countries, including South Africa? They are avoiding the core issue.
As much as that guy at the end claims that the problem in SA is that of the government and foreign nationals are simply being used ss scapegoats, he must also realise the governments failure to manage our borders has had negative consequences of population explosion, lack of job opportunities especially for the poor and ofcourse Urban decay as a result of overpopulation.
This reporter from Zimbabwe came to South Africa and lied that she was robbed.
She is a drunkard that easily forgets where she puts things and cries robbery while her 2 other male zimbojournalists were robbed by zimbos here in SA
Ay people must go home. We are tired
Zimbabwe is a failed state because of human rights abuses, expropriation without compensation - taking farms from farmers because they are white and establishing subsistence farming on the less productive farms (the real productive ones went to the Mugabes and friends). Subsistence farming only lasts until the first extended draughts and then people starve. Subsistence farmers pay near no tax because they barter and have low tax because of very low income. Now the state is not getting the taxes to build hospitals, schools, roads, etc. The people jump the borders to SA even just for hospital care and mainly for minimum wage jobs. Now SA's taxpayers are paying for Zim's mismanagement, expropriation, corruption, etc. What does SA's EFF do? Tell people to jump SA's borders, drive for expropriation without compensation too, cause racism against white citizens by blaming them for "owning the means of production " (communism). Driving tension into the country. And the ANC drives racial laws to discourage white capabile people from jobs in favor of black people even if usually less capabile. Causing a brain drain ( currently more qualified black people are leaving SA than white ones). Racism against white people is at the root of all the problems. Referring to a person or a group's skin colour should be outlawed as all the institutionalized racism against white people in Zim and SA. The times of "freedom fighting" is over, the time for non-racial fixing and building is here. Or things will only get worse for all, black and white, in Southern Africa.
THIS IS WHY I DONT WANT TO BRING KID INTO THIS WORLD ...OVERPOPULATION
Said , but true.
USA needs to do this. 😡
Eish tough
The interesting thing is how strict immigration laws are in these countries to other Africans. They also need to have a conducive economic climate to allow local and foreign investment.
Lomnqundu okuthiwa uHaru Mutasa🙅🏾♀️🙅🏾♀️🙅🏾♀️
Like snow in summer and rain in harvest,
so also the fool will not be glorified.
Isn’t it ironic that AL- Jazeera interviews 2 men of European descent in an African country about immigration matters.
Priti Patel situation!🤣
They are SAn. Last time I checked France & other EU countries had people of African descent calling themselves French. Why can't SA? Are you racist?
@@hopes9451 89% of South Africa's population is African amounting to 52 million. Those affected by the migration question in this piece is the 89%. You don't find it ironic, much less intellectually curious that AL-Jazeera couldn't find 1 or 2 people from amongst 52 million to interview them about what affects them? Those 2 White men may be South Africans by citizenship (who are most likely dual citizens of an EU country as well), but they will be the 1st to tell you they are not African. I'd rather not talk to you about Africans in the diaspora. Your comment betrays your lack of insights on that topic. Hence you draw your conclusions from TV cartoon depictions of what life in Europe is for descendants of Africans.
They have interviews with non whites in Europe too. Welcome to Liberal globalism and it's media my friends.
It's intentional. Foreign media always have an agenda. It does not matter which part of Africa it is, they always perpetuate certain stereotype or evoke anger or cause division but the objective is to influence in order to gain.
Wooooooo
"The SADC Region Was 'Blinded' By Fraternal Relations With The 'GREAT ZIMBABWE' That They Swept The Political/Social/Economic Turmoil Under The Carpet.Neighbour STATES Are Bearing The Brunt"
She must go
Treat to local at job n bisnes opportunity, save n safe for their future.
Rhodesia
It was called "Southern Rhodesia" before that wasn't it?🤔Before that it was called the Kingdom of Zimbabwe.😁
@@AnthonyD-yy2in Robert Mugabe did wonders for the country, didn't he.
It's really better for foreigners to do jobs that natives are not involved in.
There are schools in Zim she can read. Why didn't you teach your son shona. Whose fault is that. It is just an excuse .
Hey if you dont like being ruled by rulers that dont mirror u maybe rulers that mirror you make you a winner ?.. Sadly not.. keep escaping. Full circle and you done.
These are all the benefits they receive from us the taxpayers
foreigners are not the problem, but are not they are not ones who killed Eskom, destroyed SAA, or looted millions, ANC will use this as scape to stay in power. This won't change load shedding that is destroy business.
ps: if your in a country illegally or not in the process of getting legal documents, host country as the right to send you home.
Unfortunately when you have millions of them coming into this shrinking economy of ours, then they become a problem.
well if this is the case let them also remove their SA businesses in all african countries that are feeding their economies, dstv, supermarkets, sim cards etc and see how they will survive and close their borders
Lol, those businesses employ citizen of those countries and pay tax in those countries, beside that majority of big business only benefit the rich in SA, not ordinary poor South African, you can kick them out
Those are investments that grow your economies and employ your people....SA investors don't carry with them millions of their citizens to compete with yours in your home ground... everyone around us is looking after their own people.....why should it be different with SA.
At the end of the day foreign nationals work for whites who are foreigners too from there they are street vendors which is something you will not see a South African citizen doing, truely speaking almost every day i get notifications that government is looking for staff and plenty of private companies looking for citizens only but my South African people do not qualify coz they never liked education and today it's a foreigner's fault. South Africans are obsessed with free stuff they don't want to work hard, on deepest moments of pandemic they were fighting for alcohol instead of progress, perhaps the government failed however it is not to be blamed for individual's bad choices. And i personally hate it when a black person is considered to be a foreigner and a white foreigner is a god 🙄
you talking nonsense ftsek, our taxi drivers wakes up at 4am to go to work and you telling us about not wanting to work.SAcn wants free things in their own country so whats your problem about that?ftsek with your kwerekwere,let them go work in their own zoological countries
O bua bosepa
I'm a South African, and I love the people of Zimbabwe. You are welcome here. You are not the one taking the Money from our people. The ones who own all the land are the ones who have all the money.
Clearly you don't read....specifically statistics! Hence the ignorance
Nonsense zanupf can not be allowed to make us care for their citizens it's not right
@@dimbwemazala8978 sure but the whole continent is in south African we are sinking as a country let zanupf take care of it's citizens
@@dimbwemazala8978 there are more way more than that even our minister doesn't have the number wher did you get 4million
@@dimbwemazala8978 and SA is overpopulated because of other African ppl and benefiting from SA
Mnxm🙄
Bye bye
Good byeee
OMG this is terrible. As an empathetic liberal minded progressive (I'm for progress) and sensitive person I care deeply about the wider world and the well-being of humanity. (Not so much my own people 🤮) It is up to people like me to save others, particularly in the 3rd world from themselves. Lots of love ♥️
i saw what you did there.
@@desistarktm7270 Excuse me what do you mean sweetie?
@@beautifulprogressivewester4156 showing sarcasm of libtards.
@Beautiful progressive Western woman Since it's the West ( Europe & USA) that are looting the African mineral resources and starting wars in Africa, you are the ones who are supposed to bear the consequences. Show that you care. But stop looting and stealing African wealth. You are the ones who are supposed to leave Africa and never come back. All Western thieves and looters must go👉👉👉👉 Out! Out!👉👉👉
White hypocrite mentality
After 10 years it's her right to become a citizen
She has contributed her quota,paid her tax and has obeyed the statutory laws of the nation...what more does South Africa wants....people who are meant to be deported are inactive persons who has lived illegally for ten years
You have that right in Your birth Country.. The ZEP were clear
You can stay for over 50yrs in a country if it's laws & policies doesn't allow you to become a citizen then its time to go home to fix it for yourself and your kids. SA is not obliged to, this was clearly spelled out on those ZEPs.
Yes if you never visit your country for 10years . Definitely she is travelling to Zimbabwe every month
@Antonio Montana That's the thing, they failed to exercise that right because they wanted to hold on to their Zimbabwean citizenship and their exemption permits instead of applying for normal permits.