Make Invisible Radiation Become Visible - Peltier Cloud Chamber

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  • čas přidán 24. 05. 2019
  • We are constantly bathed in a sea of particles of radiation but have no mechanism naturally to detect it. So it goes essentially unnoticed. But using only computer parts and stuff from the dollar store, it's possible to build a machine that can turn this invisible radiation visible and let us see particles come streaming off of radioactive material. That device is a cloud chamber.
    This is a fun one day build if you have the right materials and these devices are mesmerizing to watch as naturally occurring particles zip through the chamber leaving trails of fog in the wake.
    Some more resources:
    Cloudylabs - • Thermoelectric Cloud C...
    Info about radiation - www.world-nuclear.org/nuclear-...
    Another build that uses a single cascaded peltier - www.instructables.com/id/Pelt...
    Materials:
    Peltiers - (100W) www.amazon.ca/TEC1-12710-Ther...
    (60w) www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008...
    Heatsink - www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-H...
    Thermal paste - www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008...
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  • @joesouthwell4080
    @joesouthwell4080 Před 5 lety +680

    Why the high voltage? Lots of other clouds chambers I've seen didn't use them, but here it seems essential to get the effect.

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  Před 5 lety +429

      It's not essential PER SAY, but it makes things way brighter. On review of the footage I saw quite a few tracks when it was off, but the effect is night and day when you turn on the high voltage. I don't have a good reason for why it works as the explanations I've found don't make much sense. SO I just left it out, said it was essential and called it a day, because you'll enjoy the machine more with it on, so why bother turning it off. For an extra 3 dollars it's worth it.

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 Před 5 lety +39

      @@thethoughtemporium the only explanation that makes sense to me, at the moment (my opinions are not writ in stone) are those proposed by the electric universe crowd.

    • @TotallyFred
      @TotallyFred Před 5 lety +104

      For what it’s worth, this will make the alpha (helium ions positive ions) and beta particles (electrons) shoot up or down, along a curved trajectory, depending upon the direction and strength of the electric field. Beta particles will go up while alpha will go down, or vice versa (again, depending where ground is). Alpha particles will be mildly displaced as they are much heavier than electrons.
      The magnet will make those same particles spin. Again, alpha particles will be mostly unaffected unless the field is very strong (or you have a very large plate).
      Gamma particles (EM waves) are unaffected by either field and will always shoot in straight line.
      That is how they are differentiated. That is the same principle as used in bubble chambers.
      Not necessary. Just educational.

    • @theterribleanimator1793
      @theterribleanimator1793 Před 5 lety +7

      @@TotallyFred wait, how are alphas lighter than electrons?

    • @andre9095
      @andre9095 Před 5 lety +18

      The Terrible Animator is that what you read? I read explicitly that alpha particles are heavier. Though I can see why somebody saying that would be worth calling out.

  • @ethanjones741
    @ethanjones741 Před 5 lety +1270

    "Don't lick Uranium" some quality advise to be fair

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  Před 5 lety +182

      It's on the list of "things you didn't think you needed to say, but here we are, having to say it"

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +6

      The waterjet channel will not obey.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 Před 5 lety +1

      Quality meme

    • @GigsVT
      @GigsVT Před 5 lety +15

      @@thethoughtemporium I have put uranium glass marbles in my mouth before to demonstrate to people who were scared of them. Honestly, its not like they are leeching uranium or anything, not at any appreciable rate. Now your chunk of americium IS scary to me. I've never had the guts to expose one that far.

    • @Assault_Butter_Knife
      @Assault_Butter_Knife Před 5 lety +2

      Words to live by

  • @zacharywilson8639
    @zacharywilson8639 Před 5 lety +188

    You're quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel. You actually do the experiments that I've always talked about doing. I'm so appreciative of the inspiration and confidence you provide to actually just go buy the materials and do it.

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 Před 5 lety +1

      As a molecular biologist who also has wide ranging scientific interests, I'm very pleased to see the mix of well done bioscience, physics, chemistry and DIY apparatus builds. This combination of breadth and depth are not often seen together. And many of his apparatus builds are extraordinary. I am seriously going to have to try to mod the scope in my home lab for fluorescence!

  • @Pyriphlegeton
    @Pyriphlegeton Před 5 lety +127

    It's amazing how you make serious science easily accessible.
    Thank you.

  • @robertlunsford1350
    @robertlunsford1350 Před 5 lety +37

    We use teds and pelier devices at work for reagent and reaction cooling. I can tell you from actual research data, you do not want to smear thermal compound on these things. Use as little as possible for good contact. I apply a thin layer to both sides then scrape it off with a plastic scraper. Excess coupound makes the thermal joint inefficient and can actually short out you peltier.

  • @Napert
    @Napert Před 5 lety +485

    i think you just triggered every pc enthusiast watching your videos with the thermal paste application/waste

    • @BluestemGlade
      @BluestemGlade Před 5 lety +22

      Thought the exact same haha

    • @goldenfox334
      @goldenfox334 Před 5 lety +58

      Well for a good reason too. Thermal compounds act as insulation in large amounts like that. It tells you that on their data sheets not to use it like exsive amounts or it could result in over heating.

    • @Napert
      @Napert Před 5 lety +4

      @@goldenfox334 but a thermal pase is supposed to be thermally conductive??? Like do what it's supposed to do, you know, TRANSFER HEAT???

    • @roidroid
      @roidroid Před 5 lety +9

      using a large amount isn't a problem, since the 2 contact surfaces are typically clamped together. Any excess paste is squeezed out the sides by the clamping force.
      I'd expect it to get more viscous when heated - which might be why some people do a "burn in" cycle after installing a heatsink: To help thin the paste so the clamping force can squeeze more of it away & bring the mating surfaces even closer together.
      If you're using the thermal compound to conduct *cold temperatures* - then yeah that's indeed an interesting problem, it could make it less viscous. So you might thus want to be conservative with your paste application, and use a lot of clamping force.

    • @roidroid
      @roidroid Před 5 lety +1

      Steven, modern thermal pastes are not electrically conductive.

  • @josephvanas6352
    @josephvanas6352 Před 5 lety +12

    I am a health physics tech and it always makes me happy to encounter someone who doesnt sensationalize radiation. That being said the lead foil is a bit overkill for shielding those sources I would be more worried about contamination controls at that point. Get yourself a watertight tupperware container with the rubber gasket under the lid, poly will shield all alpha and most beta. However, the lead wont hurt anything unless you have enough beta to worry about bremsstrahlung. Either way cool video I look forward to seeing more!

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 Před 5 lety +2

      Exactly. The lead is really only needed for blocking gamma radiation, and gamma emitters aren't the isotopes one wants for cloud chambers since photons don't produce tracks. I worked with a lot of P-32 (high energy, very strong beta emitter) as a grad student and the standard shields we used were acrylic plastic and seal-a-meal bags of water. Plastic is actually a great shield for beta particles and doesn't produce bremsstrahlung x-rays the way that lead will. Ingestion is really the major danger from most beta emitters, and is the significant health danger from alpha emitters.
      I'm looking forward to see how things go when you try to add magnets. I keep seeing references to it being hard to get enough field strength for making betas and positrons spiral in basic cloud chambers, but I haven't been able to find any information on exactly what field strength to aim for. Let alone whether neodymium magnets or a big electromagnet is the way to get it.

  • @MrRolnicek
    @MrRolnicek Před 5 lety +34

    Man, I'm so happy that you want to disperse nuclear paranoia.
    I was always super excited about nuclear (not only does it save the planet it's SUPER COOL while doing it).
    And recently discovered what Elysium Industries is planning on doing which just reignited and amplified my excitement about nuclear all over again and convinced me that molten salt reactors are WAAAY closer to everyday use than they seemed to be previously.

    • @retovath
      @retovath Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not in love with the molten chloride fast reactors. Chlorine has 2 isotopes that are reasonably usable in a molten salt reactor, but neither is capable of supporting a thorium based reactor. Thorium based tech is really what could save the earth and transform our society into an engineering society.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek Před 5 lety +3

      @@retovath That's what FLiBe salts will do. Those are expensive, there are political concerns, Hastalloy needs to be first licensed for nuclear use and most importantly it WILL need in-line chemical processing before it's economically viable. Thorium is certainly the future but it has a long way to go.
      What Elysium is proposing is a freaking trash can that makes 36 times as much energy from waste than what was produced from the pure product before it turned into waste. And as far as I've seen they can have the power plant running within a year if they get the nod.
      And there is PLENTY of Uranium everywhere ... even if you want to get it out of the sea for twice the cost you're still MUCH more cost effective than current nuclear reactors.

    • @retovath
      @retovath Před 5 lety +1

      @@MrRolnicek MrRolnicek there are chemistry issues regarding the steels and chloride fuel salts. It's called a chlorine iron fire. Any chemical fuel salt is going to need a specialized alloy to deal with the possibility of corrosion reactions. This doubly applies to the MCFR design, as that material also has to be qualified to operate in a high flux fast neutron environment. Afaik, there is only one reactor that can qualify materials like that. It belongs to Russia. The US has another in development, but it's not yet ready.
      Truth be told any 4th gen nuke is great in my book, but I do play favorites with designs.

    • @MrRolnicek
      @MrRolnicek Před 5 lety

      @@retovath Corrosion reactions? How can you get corrosion without oxygen or water or other oxygen containing molecules? Or are you talking about some other reaction?

    • @AlexiLaiho227
      @AlexiLaiho227 Před 5 lety

      man, what a coincidence, I've been talking to Ed Pheil of Elysium online recently

  • @MuradBeybalaev
    @MuradBeybalaev Před 5 lety +43

    4:32 A squad of thermal paste application experts is closing in on your location.
    To be fair, you actually want it all to be in one blob as to avoid trapping air.

    • @triton6490
      @triton6490 Před 4 lety +2

      Lmfao

    • @QwertyBuoy
      @QwertyBuoy Před 2 lety +1

      i literally came here to write that, but i saw your comment lmfao this dude acts like he knows everything about controlling temps, doesn't even realize the biggest flaw of his setup is the way he applied the paste. he probably would have only needed 2 of those pad things that get cold, id say the name but im too lazy to type out the long name lol but you get my point im sure

    • @MuradBeybalaev
      @MuradBeybalaev Před 2 lety +7

      @@QwertyBuoy Please don't mistake composed style of presentation for pretending to be all-knowing. He's trying his best and don't we all make mistakes…
      Anyway, unlike the aforementioned squad, I'm not convinced this is "the *biggest* flaw" and make-or-break crux of the whole operation…
      But yes, air is more thermally capacitive rather than conductive.

    • @QwertyBuoy
      @QwertyBuoy Před 2 lety

      @@MuradBeybalaev half my statement was sarcasm lol the part where i was serious (ish) was when i humorously said "the biggest flaw" making fun of the fact that if he properly applied paste, he wouldn't have needed 3 of those cooling pads lol but thanks for informing me, ill appreciate that :P

    • @Cryo_Gen
      @Cryo_Gen Před 2 lety

      @@QwertyBuoy he almost certainly would have needed 3. These peltiers are not that effective as a heat pump unless you stack multiple of them, and even then it's diminishing returns.

  • @celivalg
    @celivalg Před 5 lety +223

    don't lick uranium? you should have said that before I ...

  • @r3drumg33k3
    @r3drumg33k3 Před 4 lety +1

    You did a better job explaining peltier stacking than ANY computer channel ever has, Linus's crew couldn't figure this out. Love the information on your channel, so so broad yet so very acurate.

  • @consciousenergies
    @consciousenergies Před 5 lety

    Keep up the great work Justin! I am working on Monetary stuff and I will be back at it. Glad to see you persevering and doing what you love my friend.

  • @maxmick1376
    @maxmick1376 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video as always, just want to let you know that i greatly enjoy your videos and always learn something new! Keep up the excellent work!
    Cheers,

  • @peytonpanos7026
    @peytonpanos7026 Před 5 lety +94

    I have managed to setup my oyster mushroom production facilities. Almost exclusively inspired by your eccelent video.
    Thank you

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 Před 5 lety +2

      Shitake or the fun stuff?
      Man, imagine oysters that make you trip.. You're a genius !!

  • @Kombivar
    @Kombivar Před rokem +1

    A few years ago as the expression of gratitude, I build one for my physics teacher who has a PhD in radioactive stuff, it was firmly based on your video and she absolutely love it. We spoke a few days ago and she still brings it to her class and blasts it with gamma emitter, prior to that she had to borrow one from the science council but now she has on her own. I enclosed the power supply and wires in wood, and added the array of SPST toggle switches with guards for every electric subsystem to run (PC power supply on, the peltier device, high voltage etc.). She said that the moment she looked at it for a first time she thought it's been made by Rick Sanchez. I wouldn't be able to pull this project without your help, and big thanks for the bug zapper idea!

  • @secnep
    @secnep Před 3 lety

    I've been subscribed to you but found this video after watching a recommended video and searching "visualizing radioactivity". I've always seen radioactivity portrayed as this magical thing, and nobody ever seems to explain it. ty

  • @_rn_3861
    @_rn_3861 Před 5 lety +98

    step 1: open your eyes
    step 2: see visible light
    step3: ???
    profit

    • @mephistovonfaust
      @mephistovonfaust Před 5 lety

      Calzone Step 3: Make a YT video about it.

    • @_rn_3861
      @_rn_3861 Před 5 lety +1

      @@mephistovonfaust idk id maybe do IT someday

    • @mephistovonfaust
      @mephistovonfaust Před 5 lety +1

      @@_rn_3861 Well... Thought Emporium already did

    • @crewcut
      @crewcut Před 4 lety +1

      Hey you, you're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.

    • @theobserver314
      @theobserver314 Před 4 lety

      "Step 3" should be...
      " Don't lick Uranium!"

  • @Andres186000
    @Andres186000 Před 5 lety +61

    clever use of a peltier plate, more sustainable than dry ice

  • @FernandoDordete
    @FernandoDordete Před 5 lety +2

    Wow, I love this kind of project about radiation. I saw one (very large) of these chambers in a museum when I was a kid and always wonder how it works and if it was possible to make on my own. Can't wait for the other videos.

  • @illicitsolitude7727
    @illicitsolitude7727 Před 5 lety

    Thats so cool! We build one in school with 15 of these Peltier-Elements and a surface of an A4 sheet. (-35°C) It worked way better than we expected. (even catching a ton of cosmic rays)
    Your Collection of Radioactives seems decent, i'm looking forward for your future vids!

  • @D1GItAL_CVTS
    @D1GItAL_CVTS Před 5 lety +26

    Ahh, Cold Plate
    My favorite band!

  • @juliosunga3530
    @juliosunga3530 Před 5 lety +39

    would be interesting to encase Chernobyl reactor 4 in one gigantic cloud chamber.

    • @werlder
      @werlder Před 4 lety +2

      It would look like thousands of jets flew by and made condensation trails lol.

    • @tafsirnahian669
      @tafsirnahian669 Před 3 lety

      3.6 rontzen will do shit

  • @mystamo
    @mystamo Před 5 lety

    Sorry for the bombardment of comments. I failed to also point out how awesome this video is. I recall an Ontario circucullim txt book for physics having a picture on the cover that must have been from a cloud chamber. I asked a teacher about it. But of course they know nothing and were not able to tell me what it was capturing. Fast forward 17 years. Thanks TE and CZcams.

  • @DylanODonnell
    @DylanODonnell Před 5 lety +1

    Brilliant .. I’ve been wanting to do this for ages as I live somewhere where dry ice is scarce too. Thanks!

  • @littleloner1159
    @littleloner1159 Před 5 lety +4

    My school did that in small fish tank size for the whole 7th(maybe 8th) grade, it was amazing.
    They projected it on the wall and wow. Wow. You totally forgot what you were actually watching bc it was SO PRETTY
    What you're doing seems so much more complicated but maybe that's why 3 science teachers set it up

  • @WangleLine
    @WangleLine Před 5 lety +13

    This channel is super underrated

  • @JakeBiddlecome
    @JakeBiddlecome Před 5 lety

    This is the coolest thing I've seen since the Falcon Heavy first flew. Love this video - thanks for sharing!

  • @trey1531
    @trey1531 Před 5 lety

    Man, I thought I had broad interests in science... Your channel blows my mind every time! Facinating

  • @alkis_al
    @alkis_al Před 5 lety +50

    this reminded me of Cody from cody'slab and his huge box of radioactive material

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +12

      I was just thinking "He's the new, safer Cody."

    • @mattiasfagerlund
      @mattiasfagerlund Před 5 lety +15

      And Cody had a visit from the authorities...

    • @johnpossum556
      @johnpossum556 Před 5 lety +4

      @@mattiasfagerlund Yeah, I wonder if that was the thing that scared away Canyon. Funny to see her in her latest video because I think it's the first time I've seen her with makeup on. She's very pretty.

    • @cowboy_k3147
      @cowboy_k3147 Před 5 lety

      @@johnpossum556 hol up... Cody bought a canyon and then his old canyon left him... oof F's in the chat

    • @bernardo00124719
      @bernardo00124719 Před 5 lety

      @@mattiasfagerlund yeah hes so naive.

  • @rosennachev9864
    @rosennachev9864 Před 5 lety +57

    If you want to put the thermal paste better.
    Place a single blob in the middle and let it spread so it dose not trap bubbles.

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags Před 5 lety +4

      Eh, that's not really an issue for an experiment like this.

    • @rosennachev9864
      @rosennachev9864 Před 5 lety +8

      @@Sevendogtags 4:35 "the better job you do the better this will work" Eh, he said it :D

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags Před 5 lety +2

      1 or 2 Celsius isn't going to be game changing here.

    • @rosennachev9864
      @rosennachev9864 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Sevendogtags Yes and using the silver stuff is an overkill. Your point?

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags Před 5 lety +2

      Not every dark thermal paste has metal in it. That's probably some cheap TP. My point was clear, the application of TP was fine and a better application would be irrelevant to the scope of this experiment.

  • @palegenesis6146
    @palegenesis6146 Před 5 lety +1

    i love your safety advice, it's so casual and jokey compared to the intensity of some other sciency folks

  • @nightrous3026
    @nightrous3026 Před 5 lety

    Ive wanted one of these for a while. Your build looks really good.

  • @j0anbug
    @j0anbug Před 5 lety +5

    combating nuclear energy fear mongering and saying it's the only way to save the Earth from a slow painful death? you just got a new subscriber my good man

    • @MagnetechSolidSolutions
      @MagnetechSolidSolutions Před 5 lety

      It really is the only clean energy within our grasp. We need to further the technology and manage its waste. Idea(put it back where you got it from)

    • @taylorwestmore4664
      @taylorwestmore4664 Před 4 lety

      @@MagnetechSolidSolutions I want to see the off shore Thorium salt reactor ship get good publicity so we can employ them as power plants which can transmute/consume the nuclear waste products of Uranium plants through the Thorium fuel cycle. Turn all that waste and turn it into more fuel!

  • @KX36
    @KX36 Před 5 lety +54

    So just to be sure, DO or DON'T lick uranium?

  • @salsaman4374
    @salsaman4374 Před 5 lety

    You have the link for (60w) also as thermal paste btw. Keep up the good work, you're quickly becoming one of my favorite CZcamsrs.

  • @ulfhugud
    @ulfhugud Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you, this video helped me sooooo much with my cloud chamber project and presentation for college... I learned so much from your vid! thanks again!

  • @superdupergrover9857
    @superdupergrover9857 Před 5 lety +5

    Thoriated tungsten electrodes are used in welding because the radiation from the thorium ionizes the shielding gas and makes the electric arc easier to strike. While still quite common, it is not used as often as it used to be. Back in the day, the welding machines were not sophisticated and it was difficult to strike an arc properly. Also, tungsten alloys have higher heat resistance than pure tungsten and the thoriated alloys were the first ones commonly available. This, and there is the modern perceived risk from the radiation. Yes, the risk is not zero, but I would be more worried about the tungsten poisoning than the radiation, but unless you are inhaling or ingesting electrode dust, (which you won't 'cause you aren't welding) the risk is practically zero.
    If you have a welding shop in town, specifically one with an old guy in it, ask around for some thoriated electrode ends. You see, as the electrode wears from use and sharpening, it gets shorter and shorter until it is too short to be held in the gun, just like a pencil. The kind of welding that uses these electrodes is called "TIG" welding, which is more common in high end production, such as a fab(rication) shops, aerospace manufacturing, high end custom car or racing shops. Thoriated electrodes tend to be used by old timers as that is what they learned with, and nothing else is meaningfully better anyway.

  • @diegobujanos5657
    @diegobujanos5657 Před 5 lety +7

    Nice video, To improve the dissipation I would not use that type of heatsink with heat pipes in that configuration, these work with a liquid inside, and the way you have it arranged the liquid is in the bottom (without direct contact to the source of heat) so when the heat reaches the alcohol it evaporates and and dissipates in the heat source, those heatsinks work better if the heat source is in bottom, I love your chanel

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz Před 5 lety +1

      Those pipes have channels or a porous fill that wicks liquid so it covers the entire inner surface. Proper orientation makes them a bit more efficient, but they will still work.

    • @djosearth3618
      @djosearth3618 Před 4 lety

      This shoujld work great copper+surface area

  • @paintskate610
    @paintskate610 Před 4 lety

    I love these videos so interesting to watch and so educational. Even though I have no idea what he’s taking about half the time still very cool.

  • @AnythingMike
    @AnythingMike Před 3 lety +2

    I have been watching your videos, and I can't stop but think, if you were some old professor with white hair growing all over your face, the Pulitzer would have recognized you and give you an award for most of your breakthroughs.

  • @sacation6057
    @sacation6057 Před 5 lety +4

    Hey Justin,
    Just some note on your poster on teespring "measuring plancks constant". You misspelled one of the words in the topleft section. I've unfortunately realized this after ordering, but for the future buyers maybe good to change it?

  • @psun256
    @psun256 Před 5 lety +11

    Thought Emporium: 'never take a smoke detector apart.'
    Me: oopsie doopsie?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Před 5 lety +2

      If they're the cheap light dispersion type rather than ionisation smoke detectors, go ahead and take them apart, no problem.

    • @jamesluck2969
      @jamesluck2969 Před 4 lety +1

      Or you can buy the isotope chamber on ebay. Cheap source of Am 241

    • @vivimannequin
      @vivimannequin Před 4 lety

      I have two pieces of americium

    • @hivemind5281
      @hivemind5281 Před 4 lety

      @@vivimannequin that is something I didn't know I wanted to see

    • @hivemind5281
      @hivemind5281 Před 4 lety

      @@vivimannequin please show me that

  • @rguitar78
    @rguitar78 Před 5 lety

    Great delivery, easy to understand and fascinating topic.

  • @XxPlayMakerxX131
    @XxPlayMakerxX131 Před 5 lety

    I am really impressed of how much you know
    I will never be able to achieve such levels of knowledge

  • @anteshell
    @anteshell Před 5 lety +24

    Please, watch some tutorials where they teach you how to apply thermal compound. The way you did it, makes it very inefficient to transfer heat. There's way too bulky layer of the compund and also air bubble due to how you applied it.

    • @Sevendogtags
      @Sevendogtags Před 5 lety +8

      No, it really doesn't make much difference. Maybe 1-2C. There's plenty videos where it is demonstrated that over use of thermal paste does not make as dramatic of a difference as most people think.

    • @goldenfox334
      @goldenfox334 Před 5 lety +6

      @@Sevendogtags it actually does. Pluse he doesnt have this under 200lbs of force pushing those plates together. This is a horrible way to apply it and exstreamly wasteful. Hell you could have used a credit card to apply it evenly. Those air pockets well also causes less heat transfer because air isnt as good as a conducter of heat as that artic silver is. Im not hating on him for it but he needs to understand and do 5 minutes of google searching or just read the side of the tube on how too properly apply it. Even if its not a cpu, use the paste the same way as you would for one.

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  Před 5 lety +4

      ^what he said. ALSO it got to temp. So it literally doesn't matter. Getting beyond -26 is really all that's needed, I just shot for a few degrees past so I had some buffer. But the system has no issue getting to temp within about a minute or two. Also, I chose silver based thermal compound for a reason. It's very good at conducting the heat even with a bit of uneven-ness.

    • @edwardpaulsen1074
      @edwardpaulsen1074 Před 5 lety +4

      What you all seem to be missing is the question "What is the application?" He is not attempting to keep a CPU cool to prevent it from burning up or going into thermal throttling... he is using it as an easily permeable thermal layer to let the peltier devices work better... there was no "absolute need" for optimal thermal conductivity since he was easily able to reach the desired target temperatures and was not fighting against a virtual furnace driving the temperature up... while you may be correct for the heat based application you are describing, it doesn't mean much at all for what he was doing and your snarky commentary proves that you actually have less of a clue than you think you do... It's like saying that *THIS WAY* is the optimum and only way to cook and eat a burger and therefore must *ALWAYS* be done this way, even if it is actually a hot dog one is making... Let those who have studied and practiced science deal with the science rather than being a video watching armchair computer technician giving unasked for advice based on a different field or IT.

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell Před 5 lety +3

      @@thethoughtemporium You are absolutely right about the required temp and that in this use case the badly applied thermal paste didn't really matter. However you have absolutely wrong way to think about this.
      To control the temperature you have to use methods that you can actually control. That is the applied power in the cooling pads in this case. The air pockets in the thermal compound that you have no way to contol of is absolutely wrong way to add any variables to the experiment regardless of the use case.

  • @shoeman256
    @shoeman256 Před 5 lety +6

    Amazing, maybe do talk about cosmic rays. Could you do a video about aerospike engines?

  • @aaroninman7370
    @aaroninman7370 Před 4 lety +1

    This video spooked me a little. This build is awesome

  • @raphaelaugusto7663
    @raphaelaugusto7663 Před 3 lety +1

    You have a nice sense of humor good sir. Subscribed.

  • @AlexDanut
    @AlexDanut Před 4 lety +3

    6:44 "I just use some black felt as my pad" haven't heard that one since middle school

    • @tl.4184
      @tl.4184 Před 3 lety

      Dying🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mininudoalem7950
    @mininudoalem7950 Před 5 lety +30

    Cryogenic temperatures, high voltage and radioactive material? Seems safe to me

  • @johnsumner2987
    @johnsumner2987 Před 5 lety

    Just showed this to my daughter and we are going to build one for her science fair next year. And mainly because it is actually pretty cool looking.

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman2338 Před 3 lety

    Very well done! I have about 6 of those Americium241 pellets, ive been researching nuclear amd fusion energy for years. Yes I have the Americium 241 in a full lead box.

  • @crackedemerald4930
    @crackedemerald4930 Před 5 lety +9

    I ain't no pc enthusiast, but you built your peltier thing like you build a sandwich

  • @Beep_Beeps
    @Beep_Beeps Před 5 lety +7

    "Be safe, don't lick uranium and don't touch the cold bit while the machine is running" Advice for life I guess.

  • @b1zzler
    @b1zzler Před 5 lety

    this is my new favorite channel on youtube

  • @PPYTAO
    @PPYTAO Před 5 lety

    Amazing! So cool. I had never heard of these before. Thanks!

  • @edg6779
    @edg6779 Před 5 lety +3

    The best way to get thorium is the mineral thorite, you can buy thorite crystals online

  • @Rob-vv5yn
    @Rob-vv5yn Před 5 lety +8

    At about 14 minutes he says don’t lick the uranium doh oh no now he tells me LOL

  • @rafaelthetall
    @rafaelthetall Před 4 lety +2

    you gained my inscription with the part of nuclear can save the world.

  • @paulmoir4452
    @paulmoir4452 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks, I've always wanted to build one of these too. FWIW my local Air Liquide Canada Store sells dry ice pellets for media blasting to anyone walking in off the street. For a small cooler full it's around $25-$40. Sometimes cheaper on Friday since it won't last. I'm sure there's better prices out there but you should find at least one welding place selling it in any medium sized industrial park carrying it.

  • @GerVlad
    @GerVlad Před 5 lety +10

    If you drink enough Vodka, you can see the radiation around Chernobyl

    • @zoedaemon4940
      @zoedaemon4940 Před 5 lety

      That's too obvious...😂

    • @michaelclark4876
      @michaelclark4876 Před 5 lety +2

      If you drink enough vodka you can see damn near anything.

    • @enderboy123me
      @enderboy123me Před 5 lety

      I agree comrade, you see the lights too Da?

    • @GerVlad
      @GerVlad Před 5 lety

      @@enderboy123me zvychayno!

  • @justus1995
    @justus1995 Před 5 lety +6

    just ask Cody´s Lab what goverment agencies might get really interested in your personal radioactive collection

    • @thethoughtemporium
      @thethoughtemporium  Před 5 lety +4

      I don't plan on extracting and purifying uranium, so I should be fine.

    • @Zahlenteufel1
      @Zahlenteufel1 Před 5 lety +2

      @@thethoughtemporium Also no jokes about building nuclear bombs I suppose

  • @agdaboss3281
    @agdaboss3281 Před 3 lety

    doing this was one of my favorite science fair projects

  • @uwezimmermann5427
    @uwezimmermann5427 Před 5 lety +1

    nice design - I had planned something like this forever, but now I got some good ideas. You should be able to get a continuous alcohol circulation if you try to make a capillary connection between the liquefied alcohol at the bottom back to the reservoir at the top...

  • @Luzgar
    @Luzgar Před 4 lety +47

    The junkiest thing to ever combine radioactivity, cryogenic temperature, flammable gas and high voltage.

  • @idontwantachannelimjustcom7745

    That should be a shirt. "Dont lick uranium"

  • @joecichlid
    @joecichlid Před 5 lety +2

    As someone that collects and restores old Coleman lanterns and lamps, I have a stash of the older mantels made with thorium. I would love to give this a try sometime! I also do a lot of shopping in antique malls and estate sales so uranium glass is easy to come by. I will say that I wasn't aware that the older Fiesta Ware used a radioactive glaze. I will be careful with that stuff.

  • @DevilsVideos1
    @DevilsVideos1 Před 5 lety

    Those 2 seconds of silence made me think there was something wrong with my audio setup, lol
    Great content, as always! Your videos save lot's of time I would usually have to spend on research before trying to make something related to science but not exactly from my branch of knowledge. The time I usually just won't bother to take, because there are always some other, more important tasks... Hope you keep it up regardless of the views and subscribers. Lost a pretty good channel related to radiochemistry recently :(
    AFAIK/R, you can make ionization chambers with plain water vapour and that's it, but maintaining stability of the steam becomes an issue.

  • @online247365
    @online247365 Před 4 lety +6

    “If I can do my part to show it's not as scary as it's made out to be, great." Thank you for helping stop the feelings-based fear mongering vis-a-vis nuclear energy production!

  • @hellishgrin4604
    @hellishgrin4604 Před 5 lety +12

    Is it bad that I can build one of these by just opening one drawer?

    • @tyedosminecraft
      @tyedosminecraft Před 4 lety +1

      HellishGrin460 no man I wish I was in the same boat as you right now I’m looking at a 100 dollar amazon cart balance

  • @Deathbynature89
    @Deathbynature89 Před 5 lety +1

    I love this. Imagine having a big one as a coffee table in a cafe or bar. I know it sound dumb but what a cool art piece and conversation starter.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 5 lety

      A bit of a beast to run unless the glass is double glazed and everything that doesn't need airflow is insulated to high heck.
      That said it would be cool as heck, even a side table sized one would be awesome

  • @agentgreengnome
    @agentgreengnome Před 5 lety

    This is weird. I've been gearing up to make cloud chamber with four parallel Peltier double stacks. Cooled by a big water cooling loop. I'm hoping to get an active area around 150mm diameter.
    I love your channel, keep the mad science going!! I can't wait to see more of the radioactivity series.

  • @jmonsted
    @jmonsted Před 5 lety +3

    "The same cheap peltier cooling units that you use to keep your CPU cool" - I've built datacenters for 17 years and PCs for even longer and i've never once seen a peltier device *anywhere* in the stack of cooling devices.

    • @banguseater
      @banguseater Před 4 lety

      also the fact he applied too much thermal paste probably states the fact he probably has never built a PC

    • @lovotcore6946
      @lovotcore6946 Před 4 lety

      They are also hilariously inefficient, like 13% efficient, so they generate WAY more heat then they move from the cold side to the hot side, this means a very high wattage peltier and a massive heat-sink would be necessary to cool an overclocked gaming CPU, which is the only reason you would want to supercool a CPU anyway. A more normal refrigeration system is usually used for this purpose since it's several times more efficient, and it's much easier to get rid of the heat, a sterling cooler would also work since it's also several times more efficient, and better at producing large temperature differentials, but useful sterlings are much harder to get than a refrigeration compressor, so.

    • @CyanOgilvie
      @CyanOgilvie Před 2 lety

      They were actually used back in the day for a few years, around the Pentium 1 days. They were called "ice caps"

  • @k9px
    @k9px Před 5 lety +3

    Finally someone that understands that nuclear energy is the best way forward. :)

  • @3v068
    @3v068 Před 3 lety

    I really want to own a small collection of radioactive items like this and a cloud chamber so I can just have it for show. This is awesome!

  • @N05K177
    @N05K177 Před 5 lety

    I always wondered how to make one :) thanks for the informative video !!

  • @ObjectsInMotion
    @ObjectsInMotion Před 5 lety +5

    MAKE INVISIBLE RADIATION VISIBLE AGAIN!!!

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 Před 5 lety +3

    Noooooo!!! You want to use a MINIMUM of thermal compound between the coolers (in ALL applications actually).

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil Před 5 lety +2

    I remember we building one of these at school. Though we used dry ice for ours. Dry ice is not really something you buy from you local store however so I was interested in your solution that used a Peltier device. I find the Peltier device pretty interesting. This did not disappoint. ^_^

  • @markheller197
    @markheller197 Před 5 lety

    1971 visited Brookhaven National Lab and was able to see a Bubble Chamber. That got me started on building my own cloud chamber with some dry ice. A wonderful project and simple.

  • @proxy1035
    @proxy1035 Před 5 lety +14

    "low high voltage"
    soo... medium voltage?
    also i've never seen a modern smoke detector that uses radioactive materials. most just use light

  • @robrod7120
    @robrod7120 Před 5 lety +5

    I really hope people warm up to nuclear energy soon, even if the US only raised its nuclear output to, say, 30-40% of the total power used, the amount of carbon kept out of the atmosphere would be astronomical

    • @mfbfreak
      @mfbfreak Před 5 lety

      Totally agree. The number of deaths per kWh is pretty damn low compared to the very accepted coal, and while building one reactor is ridiculously expensive, building 10 of the same type gets cheaper and cheaper.

    • @0Arcoverde
      @0Arcoverde Před 5 lety +1

      @@mfbfreak it's the lowest death per energy out of everything...
      Including solar and wind
      But there is nuclear waste, bad decisions and a general fear of nuclear
      The new green energy corporation are also attacking nuclear as not the best...

    • @0Arcoverde
      @0Arcoverde Před 5 lety +2

      @@mamupelu565 today it's actually the "renewable energy" corporations trying to demonize nuclear
      It's a viable against them, they are in today's society stronger and big oil can't argue that much if the facts, while they can do is lobby

  • @MuradBeybalaev
    @MuradBeybalaev Před 5 lety

    I very much agree it's so cool to observe the empty chamber.

  • @johnpenguin9188
    @johnpenguin9188 Před 5 lety

    Cloud chambers are pretty awesome!

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle Před 5 lety +26

    The day man split the atom he looked into the heart of a sun; did not flinch, did not blink and at that moment became god.

    • @djosearth3618
      @djosearth3618 Před 4 lety +5

      6 months later you/your god's held up in hospital with severe mouth and eye ulcers and derlious

    • @MandrakeFernflower
      @MandrakeFernflower Před 4 lety

      but stars fuse atoms - they don't split them

  • @nick5625
    @nick5625 Před 5 lety +5

    I wouldn't mind you using hot glue and figuring stuff out as you go but man you have 3d printers and cncs look at the build quality of this vs the build quality of the cold plasma torch but i guess i can't complain since this way you can finish videos faster ... , nice work regardless !

  • @asciisynth
    @asciisynth Před 5 lety

    Really nice build. I tried to build something similar a few years ago but couldn't get the peltier cells cold enough. I'm in the UK, so dry ice is hard to come by. Also I like that you can run this for as long as you like.

  • @althds7099
    @althds7099 Před 5 lety

    Finally a good video suggestion, i actually like this video and this channel.

  • @Baleur
    @Baleur Před 4 lety +9

    5 minutes in. Me: _"w.... cool but.. wh... whats a .... whats a "peltier"?"_

  • @Rinears
    @Rinears Před 5 lety +4

    Now my mom is not letting me licking uranium anymore... ;c

  • @MrJuuustin28532
    @MrJuuustin28532 Před 5 lety

    Never ceases to amaze me

  • @MrKclo42112
    @MrKclo42112 Před 5 lety

    thats a monster peltier cooler , My science teacher made a cloud chamber when I was in 6th grade and it was the coolest thing Ive ever seen , no pun intended. to get the best results though you need a chunk of uranium ore. the beta particles are so cool with their spirals

  • @MrRishik123
    @MrRishik123 Před 5 lety +20

    lowkey triggered you didnt put a banana piece into the cloud chamber.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 5 lety +1

      Wouldn't want to make people more paranoid

    • @MrRishik123
      @MrRishik123 Před 5 lety +2

      @@UNSCPILOT That's precisely the point though.
      If people understand radioactivity is all around us, they would probably be more open to pushing for nuclear power.

    • @junglejim9551
      @junglejim9551 Před 3 lety

      chances are it wouldn't be radioactive enough to notice a visible difference. You can really only tell that it's radioactive via gamma spectroscopy, or burying a highly sensetive Geiger counter in bananas.

  • @khalidal-hinai4900
    @khalidal-hinai4900 Před 5 lety +3

    What graphics card does it run?

  • @Zanthum
    @Zanthum Před 5 lety +1

    Live in the US here and I have only seen dry ice at the grocery store once, around Halloween around a decade ago. If I recall I think you can also get dry ice from a welding supply shop. I know you can get liquid co2 but I don't specifically remember dry ice.

  • @Ray_Getard42069
    @Ray_Getard42069 Před 5 lety

    I'd love to see a DIY graphene desalination siev video! Thanks for the inspirational content!

  • @petervance7268
    @petervance7268 Před 5 lety +4

    Cringed at the ammount of thermal paste... lol, Love your vids, including this one, tho

    • @resneptacle
      @resneptacle Před 4 lety

      And hot gluing a fan to a heat source

  • @Scotty-vs4lf
    @Scotty-vs4lf Před 5 lety +5

    in this video we will be covering how to:
    Get frostbite
    Get electrocuted and/or get 3rd degree burns
    Get cancer/ radiation poisoning

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 Před 4 lety

    Love this channel! You make the coolest stuff! 👍

  • @noelandrew3600
    @noelandrew3600 Před 5 lety

    Definitely a build i'm going to make, and have most of the components on hand too, plan to try and one up you on the cool points though, make it steam punk style