I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These resi company's rip off customers. That's how he's made 300k. He's on commision based performace.
i used to do hvac all through the 1990's. when someone tells me what it cost to replace a blower or condenser motor, its $800 to $1200 dollars. thats nuts!
I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These reso company's rip off customer. That's how he's made 300k
I’m in HVAC and started about 6 years ago, I work for a great company but I don’t make nearly this much. I have this dudes mind set and I love it. If I could’ve gotten started 10 years earlier, I would’ve. I don’t just want to walk up to the condenser and say “ well, just a bad capacitor” and go, I want to see if there is a reason why the capacitor went bad, other than age. Great podcast and I’m going to recommend my company to watch this.
This only has 2 comments? Shit im 24 years old ive done windshields, roofing. Little bit of home renovation. You could name it and now ive been wrenching for 15 years. I work at a dealership making $20 hourly working on transmissions we have 2 people and 14 lifts give or take. People like me need to hear things like this and people like me need help getting where they need to be getting paid what their worth and working for a good company that dosnt screw other people. The customer or the employee
Do a show in rv techs we need help can’t find people we need . Its plumbing ac work roofing tile work electrical our labor rate is over 200 a hr I do rv paint and collision work. Great channel just found yall
This guy is the super tech we all hear about. He goes in finds things that could considered subjectively wrong and pushes equipment sales. I wonder how many hard starts and remie halos he sells in a year. Does the sales guy ride in the van with him or just follow him around?
Roger you are a great inspiration and I look up to you. I got my job at an hvacr & appliance shop and I just graduated highschool. I got the job because of who I know. Its a great privilege to have started my freshman summer and I just graduated and am at the shop full time! I can't wait to meet great guys and gals like you two. I thought long and hard about college because I did so well in school and all my friends had white collar parents. I really took your advice to get into the trade and I absolutely love hvacr & appliances as well as working in a small shop in a small town.
I can clean it from the outside or the inside. Either way you are going to net the same result. Lower head pressure and a better TD. Sometimes the juice isnt worth the squeeze. We all have to make money. But some people cant afford the white glove treatment
Heys tradesmen, not trying to throw any shade on you but you’d better be careful how you price yourselves. A lot of auto mechanics are leaving the auto industry I can tell you from first hand knowledge that it’s easier to work on houses than it is on cars. These guys understand hvac and many other things about structure, engineering and electrical. It’s very simple for them to pick up and if you keep overpricing your labor, these guys will be able to swoop in and replace you. I respect all of you tradesmen but don’t sleep on automotive technicians. They are way smarter than their paychecks indicate.
I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These reso company's rip off customer. That's how he's made 300k
Do a show on Appliance Repair techs😅 ….We can be (commercial or residential, as well as hot and cold appliances) ice machines , dishwashers refrigerators, gas ovens etc…..my company also does plumbing and the appliance guys make just as much ( or more money than) the plumbers 😅
100% There is such more potential that these HVAC contractors won't even try to separate themselves from their competition. This is why when they try to sell a replacement system & install, they have to compete with 2 other companies on price. Over 20 years ago I begin when our small company was like the only nation's specialist at buying and selling large corporate supermarkets to completely disassemble in one state and ship across the country and reassemble everything from shelving rows, walk-in coolers/freezers, open & glass door display cases to double rack bakery ovens and the front door located gum ball dispenser for independent operators. This led to then building most of the supermarkets we wanted in our area, including the nicest new Whole Foods stores that entered into Chicago and Wisconsin along with every one of our locally owned premium product and service Sendiks grocery stores. This was the best way to learn everything that know one else knows before we really filled a gap by offered anyone anything commercial refrigeration and started 10acres with multiple buildings for each operation for used equipment refurbishing or rebuild to build out entire complete custom taverns, restaurants and grocery stores. The Refrigeration connection and Hvac install was the last thing we finally offered on as needed basis based on customer preference. I'm impressed by your offerings as most don't even get that the ice machines you service are basically the most technically challenging pieces of equipment in the building.
remember based off of what CZcams says, you don't need any HVAC experience to sell HVAC! heck you don't even need to know how to spell it. as long as you can sell a new unit to a customer we don't care ... this is the new way of HVAC and I hate it
It just amazes me how many of these techs and to be fair they are mostly younger in age get on CZcams and the whole video every other word is a curse word or it's nothing but them complaining about how crappy of a unit it is and how the home owner is a cheap tightwad who won't replace it with a new one so they can get commission pay. If I was the company they work for I would be down right embarrassed and mortified if a potential customer or even someone who is already a customer came across one of their videos. You can tell a lot of these guys are simply in it for the paycheck and have no customer service skills or respect whatsoever. If I am the owner of a company before you touch a van or service call you are going through a top notch etiquette class on how to treat people and after that you are going through a situational deescalation class to learn how to handle and communicate with rude/hostile customers. If you can't properly do those 2 things then you have no business being in the service industry.
All you have to do is go to a small/medium company and become the best and outwork everyone and never call off and you will easily make 150-300k Because they will love you and give you all cherry picked jobs Essentially you will be their (unicorn!)
@@hectorworksoutTrue but you could instead put all that effort into becoming a really good programmer and make close go 7 figures eventually or even 8 if you’re lucky.
Since we live in a world of planned obsolescence more and more people will learn to install their own mini-splits made in china. I come to that conclusion after receiving bids of $6000 and $7000 to replace a 20 yr old unit. I can buy a new one for $1200 and put it in myself. When it breaks buy another.
I’m not a HVAC guy, just a handy homeowner and business man. I got quoted $6600 to install a mini split unit in one of my properties and I thought that was highway robbery. I bought all the tools and the unit. Installed it myself for less than $1200 total cost about 3 years ago. These trades are pushing it too far. DIY guys are going to get involved and expose them. Remember how much we hated the Wall Street guys? Now the tradesmen are getting greedy like they were.
@@charlieecho7253it's easy til it's not. You just did the equivalent of an oil change on an old buick... "That was easy, mechanics are crooks". And when you think it's easy and it turns out not to be then you will be paying someone double to fix your fuck ups. Good luck 👍.
@@TheTradeTalks2.0 I'm trying to get into the plumbers union locally so I'm biased. Idk I think maybe a cement mason, or lineman, one of the less popular trades. All your videos are good. I like hearing different perspectives from everyone in the trades. Keep up the good work Bro. Your podcast is really making a difference in a lot of lives. I appreciate you.
I would like to get into the hvac tech industry anyone have any advice I have a associates but not much $ anyone know away for me to get involved in the industry
The "tradesman" are price gougers. Nobody can get their stuff worked on if they are not wealthy. When the economy changes they will be back to making $10 an hour.
I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These resi company's rip off customers. That's how he's made 300k. He's on commision based performace.
Can already tell this guy lives to throw people under the bus 😂😂😂😂
Maybe he's right?
i used to do hvac all through the 1990's. when someone tells me what it cost to replace a blower or condenser motor, its $800 to $1200 dollars. thats nuts!
IM A HVAC TECH THAT MADE 100k BY REPAIRING AND TROUBLESHOOTING EQUIPMENT NOT SELLING SHIT
Amen.
I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These reso company's rip off customer. That's how he's made 300k
Every company has a super tech, it’s the guy a company can rely on and this guy ain’t ever leaving
I’m in HVAC and started about 6 years ago, I work for a great company but I don’t make nearly this much. I have this dudes mind set and I love it. If I could’ve gotten started 10 years earlier, I would’ve. I don’t just want to walk up to the condenser and say “ well, just a bad capacitor” and go, I want to see if there is a reason why the capacitor went bad, other than age. Great podcast and I’m going to recommend my company to watch this.
Awesome. Thanks Joseph!
This only has 2 comments? Shit im 24 years old ive done windshields, roofing. Little bit of home renovation. You could name it and now ive been wrenching for 15 years. I work at a dealership making $20 hourly working on transmissions we have 2 people and 14 lifts give or take. People like me need to hear things like this and people like me need help getting where they need to be getting paid what their worth and working for a good company that dosnt screw other people. The customer or the employee
Few comments because HVAC is unique and few pay attention to it... It's a great career though.
Bro said he’s 24 & been wrenching for 15 years while also having construction experience 😭 stop the cap
Salesmen and service writers will always make more then the tech.
Don't let the carret intice you too much.
Do a show in rv techs we need help can’t find people we need . Its plumbing ac work roofing tile work electrical our labor rate is over 200 a hr I do rv paint and collision work. Great channel just found yall
Thank you. We’ll definitely look into RV techs.
@@TheTradeTalks2.0 that’s awesome thank you 🙏
I believe installation is the basics. That is the first place to start.
Agreed
This guy is the super tech we all hear about. He goes in finds things that could considered subjectively wrong and pushes equipment sales. I wonder how many hard starts and remie halos he sells in a year. Does the sales guy ride in the van with him or just follow him around?
Agreeded. Its easy to sell a new unit and get commission if you are a salesmen. Most of these guys don't repair anything.
When you have techs charging 800$ to fix an HVAC system by changing out a 15$ capacitor, I believe it's possible to make that amount.
Roger you are a great inspiration and I look up to you. I got my job at an hvacr & appliance shop and I just graduated highschool. I got the job because of who I know. Its a great privilege to have started my freshman summer and I just graduated and am at the shop full time! I can't wait to meet great guys and gals like you two. I thought long and hard about college because I did so well in school and all my friends had white collar parents. I really took your advice to get into the trade and I absolutely love hvacr & appliances as well as working in a small shop in a small town.
That’s awesome. Thank you Landon.
I can clean it from the outside or the inside. Either way you are going to net the same result. Lower head pressure and a better TD. Sometimes the juice isnt worth the squeeze. We all have to make money. But some people cant afford the white glove treatment
Heys tradesmen, not trying to throw any shade on you but you’d better be careful how you price yourselves. A lot of auto mechanics are leaving the auto industry I can tell you from first hand knowledge that it’s easier to work on houses than it is on cars.
These guys understand hvac and many other things about structure, engineering and electrical. It’s very simple for them to pick up and if you keep overpricing your labor, these guys will be able to swoop in and replace you.
I respect all of you tradesmen but don’t sleep on automotive technicians. They are way smarter than their paychecks indicate.
Very true
I was an automotive tech for 10 years. Never made more then 60k. I moved to the commercial HVAC industry and now I make 100k+. This guy only makes 330k because he is a "salesman* not a tech. The residential HVAC industry is a scam to all homeowners. PARTS that should be 20 or 30 bucks are sold to residential customers at 200-300. A motor, that should cost 180 is sold at 999. These reso company's rip off customer. That's how he's made 300k
Do a show on Appliance Repair techs😅 ….We can be (commercial or residential, as well as hot and cold appliances) ice machines , dishwashers refrigerators, gas ovens etc…..my company also does plumbing and the appliance guys make just as much ( or more money than) the plumbers 😅
100%
There is such more potential that these HVAC contractors won't even try to separate themselves from their competition. This is why when they try to sell a replacement system & install, they have to compete with 2 other companies on price.
Over 20 years ago I begin when our small company was like the only nation's specialist at buying and selling large corporate supermarkets to completely disassemble in one state and ship across the country and reassemble everything from shelving rows, walk-in coolers/freezers, open & glass door display cases to double rack bakery ovens and the front door located gum ball dispenser for independent operators.
This led to then building most of the supermarkets we wanted in our area, including the nicest new Whole Foods stores that entered into Chicago and Wisconsin along with every one of our locally owned premium product and service Sendiks grocery stores. This was the best way to learn everything that know one else knows before we really filled a gap by offered anyone anything commercial refrigeration and started 10acres with multiple buildings for each operation for used equipment refurbishing or rebuild to build out entire complete custom taverns, restaurants and grocery stores. The Refrigeration connection and Hvac install was the last thing we finally offered on as needed basis based on customer preference.
I'm impressed by your offerings as most don't even get that the ice machines you service are basically the most technically challenging pieces of equipment in the building.
This guy loves himself
He takes pride in his work. It's a good trait to have.
How to do a maintenance "well I take it apart" 😂 really revealing trade secrets with that gem.
Great podcast though
remember based off of what CZcams says, you don't need any HVAC experience to sell HVAC! heck you don't even need to know how to spell it. as long as you can sell a new unit to a customer we don't care ... this is the new way of HVAC and I hate it
I don’t think that’s the consensus from Joe’s episode. No one does that well without knowledge. It just doesn’t happen, nor can it sustain itself.
not the average HVAC experience. not even close .
It just amazes me how many of these techs and to be fair they are mostly younger in age get on CZcams and the whole video every other word is a curse word or it's nothing but them complaining about how crappy of a unit it is and how the home owner is a cheap tightwad who won't replace it with a new one so they can get commission pay. If I was the company they work for I would be down right embarrassed and mortified if a potential customer or even someone who is already a customer came across one of their videos. You can tell a lot of these guys are simply in it for the paycheck and have no customer service skills or respect whatsoever.
If I am the owner of a company before you touch a van or service call you are going through a top notch etiquette class on how to treat people and after that you are going through a situational deescalation class to learn how to handle and communicate with rude/hostile customers. If you can't properly do those 2 things then you have no business being in the service industry.
Remember guys. This is NOT common.
This is like the top 3%
All you have to do is go to a small/medium company and become the best and outwork everyone and never call off and you will easily make 150-300k
Because they will love you and give you all cherry picked jobs
Essentially you will be their (unicorn!)
@@hectorworksoutnailed it
@@hectorworksoutTrue but you could instead put all that effort into becoming a really good programmer and make close go 7 figures eventually or even 8 if you’re lucky.
Agree
Since we live in a world of planned obsolescence more and more people will learn to install their own mini-splits made in china. I come to that conclusion after receiving bids of $6000 and $7000 to replace a 20 yr old unit. I can buy a new one for $1200 and put it in myself. When it breaks buy another.
It was a 20 yr old unit that had the compressor replaced 3 times and the inside unit 1 time
What unit did you find for 1200?
10k-13k in Ca, that’s cheap where your at. lol
I’m not a HVAC guy, just a handy homeowner and business man. I got quoted $6600 to install a mini split unit in one of my properties and I thought that was highway robbery. I bought all the tools and the unit. Installed it myself for less than $1200 total cost about 3 years ago.
These trades are pushing it too far. DIY guys are going to get involved and expose them.
Remember how much we hated the Wall Street guys? Now the tradesmen are getting greedy like they were.
@@charlieecho7253it's easy til it's not. You just did the equivalent of an oil change on an old buick... "That was easy, mechanics are crooks". And when you think it's easy and it turns out not to be then you will be paying someone double to fix your fuck ups. Good luck 👍.
How much did you net though....
I hope he's making the money he says he is for his own sake, however he would be exhausting to work with every day lol
If you routinely rinse the coil there is 0% chance you ever need to take the whole condensing unit apart. And will need to use acids.
23:02 parking the wrong way also bothers me
I only have one question! Sensible heat ratio?
What’s your question about sensible heat ratio?
Excellent episode! Lot's of gems.
Thank you! Who do you want to hear from next?
@@TheTradeTalks2.0 I'm trying to get into the plumbers union locally so I'm biased.
Idk I think maybe a cement mason, or lineman, one of the less popular trades.
All your videos are good. I like hearing different perspectives from everyone in the trades.
Keep up the good work Bro. Your podcast is really making a difference in a lot of lives. I appreciate you.
No amount of wealth could make me enslave people of my community. He didn’t make the currency… the business did. A nonliving entity
I buy 2 ton splits with a hat strip for 2400.00 delivered. That same unit installed is upwards of 14k from these nutsack HVAC contractors
I would like to get into the hvac tech industry anyone have any advice I have a associates but not much $ anyone know away for me to get involved in the industry
Call up an HVAC company and see if they are looking for parts runners or apprentices.
Get good at selling things and being personable. You don't repair things you sell new units.
Look up your local union hall and go apply
Good show concept but your interviews are 5x too long and slow. Need much better editing.
The "tradesman" are price gougers. Nobody can get their stuff worked on if they are not wealthy. When the economy changes they will be back to making $10 an hour.
Wrong. Your shit breaks, you're going to pay to get it fixed or you will go without.. Period.
Well go fix it yourself then