Expert Arborist Reacts To Horrific Palm Tree Climbing Accidents
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
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I’ve experienced the fall and lve live to tell this is excellent 2years no work not being able to walk or take a shit is degrading I thought about suicide many times but you got to live and swollow your pride and be humble accept the fail and learn from it the bright side of all this is that I’ve done better in my business then when I had my spine I now have two titanium rods and about 24 screws down my back to my tail bone thanks to god I’m here and walk with no trouble and I get to play with my daughter and experience being a father
Sorry to hear that happened to you but I'm glad it worked out for you. Thank you for sharing!
Dude i hear you, I had a bad accident while climbing this year. February 20th 2024 to be exact. The tree i was climbing ended up failing, And started to fall over with me tied into it. I ended up being smashed through a Brick Outhouse, Completely through the tiled roof. I have multiple fractures, Including C2 of neck, T6,T7,T10 vertebrae of spine, 8 Ribs. And pelvis..
Doctors did their job hope you thanked them personally. Doctors see a lot of messed up and gnarly injuries.
God bless all my fellow arborist 💪🏽💪🏽
I'm thinking about climbing trees for fun. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm glad to know you fought depression and came out victorious. God believes in second chances and that's what keeps me looking for new perspectives to bad outcomes. We are all children to God. What a story to learn from. Wow
When I go camping I first look for widow makers. Now I will be looking to inspect the tree much more seriously. Thank you Bino for this content because safety must always come first and ego must stay at home. That's my take away about climbing.
I used to use my crane to take down and reset palms trees in California a few years ago and am proud of what this gentleman is letting people know about this sometimes risky business. Palm work can and is a truly rewarding career, however being safe while doing so should always be the utmost concern for everyone both up in the trees and those who are on the ground. I totally enjoyed the work I did and just like the gentleman said that there can also be things such as bees or other varmints that can nest or hide up in the canopy. Be safe out there my friends and enjoy your work 😊.
Nice, Thank you for sharing!
Tank tout bino ,god Day for you
Thank you bino for opening my eyes to the danger of climbing.
Confucius says "A wise person learns from other people's mistakes"
This channel is my leading channel for learning the various aspects of climbing. Today will be my first climb and I'm not going more than a few feet up until I learn to trust my knots and gear. This channel is a must have to a climbers library.
Thank you!
30 years in the trade, both private, and Utility. I told my crews day after day during safety meetings, watch out for the unexpected, that is what will get you.
No job is so important, no service is so necessary that we can not afford to do our job safely.
Many times I called the job off to protect myself and my crews against supervisors, and company demands. At the age of 55 I retired from the work and the electrical union. I considered my physical Heath, hearing loss, lack of equilibrium, inability to comunícate with workers due to hearing loss, a major safety issue. I gave up a lot of my pension and retirement income for the safety of the workers and the union. Still going after 70 years. It was a difficult choice but
My co-workers, the public, the company I worked for, the Union; safety came first. This is the most hazardous work in the world, and the most unforgiving. Expect the unexpected, from everything, and everyone, acts of God included. Stay safe! Loved my work. ❤
Thank you for sharing!
This is one of the most dangerous work in the world.
Greetings from Orlando FL
Hello and take care!
My best friends dad owned a tree service my entire childhood until my early 20s when he passed. So naturally me and most my friends all worked for him at some point. And quite a few ended up making careers of it. I still help them out on side jobs every once in a while. But I was and will always be a ground man! Stacking/chipping brush. And cut liters in to quarter sections. I knew a few guys who died on the job. At other places. Usually through carelessness with the saw. Or climbing around without tying in. Playing Johnny bad ass showing off. Very dangerous work that requires always being aware of what's going on. I've almost been hit a few time by falling branches. Day dreaming when I was younger.
The tree squeeze is awesome I got one after gaffing out and hurting myself pretty good. Palms are nasty even putting a line up and over is pretty risky as far as I'm concerned. I plan on buying a spider lift next year to make it safer.
Those spider lifts are awesome. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this, I was completely unaware of this danger so learnt something new today. Not many palms where I work but good to know.
Thanks for watching, take care!
Grateful you made a video of this and feel so bad for those guys that didnt make it or they were hurt really bad! I lived in Key Largo in Florida and was asked about doing tree work down there but I didn't want nothing to do with it! I'll stick to the Oaks in hickory's and Maples in my area lol! Great videos bud and I've made a few things from learning from you to use when I saddle hunt.
I get your point, I really likes they are very nice to walk in.
My brother in law was killed felling a tree two years back, and he was a professional. Coroner put it down to complacency.
Sorry to hear that, Thanks for sharing!
it happens
Coroner determines accidental, homicide and natural deaths. OSHA is who would define as complacent.
@@alvinmortimer7536 Who bloody cares?!
Complacency is why I took my fall. That kills quick like.
First Kudos to the fine gentlemen who preformed that palm rescue! We are a brotherhood, not competitive sport.
Secondly; When I started climbing 17 years ago, I was told that my first purchases should be harness and gaffs, and a top handle chainsaw. DO NOT DO THAT! Thou shall never spike a tree you are not removing. The first thing you need is the most important, and one you must continue to acquire: KNOWLEDGE!
Very true to first comment and to the second comment that is huge and one of the best things you can do. Knowledge is Power!! Thank you!
A palm is not a tree.
In the 90s a arborist fell off a palm tree, he fell backwards off a ladder but a branch on a tree behind him impaled him right up ass. It wen in upto his lungs.
That would be horrible!
I've watched a few of your posts in the past and honestly could never click and buy into what you were selling, UNTIL NOW. Anybody pushing life saving advice like this in an industry of jealousy and "secret" techniques, prices, wages, etc, is cool in my book. Liked, subscribed, and I'll probably throw a couple more comments just for traffic. Thank you.
Nice, Thank you!
I live in Florida and I know of men who installed their rope in the crown and it failed and they broke their back and the other one broke his hip from falling very risky!
Sorry to hear that. Tree inspection can help prior and sounding on the way up. The thing is that palms with rot do not always have signs of decay. Thank you for sharing your story!
Wow that's crazy. I know years ago when I went to school we touched on the subject a little bit but we don't have palm trees here
Topping Palm trees is crazy dangerous also, they don’t fall like other trees on your back cut. They’re like cutting a hemp rope
True they are different.
Thanks for the great info and the obvious care for all associated with your profession. I'm a homeowner and this was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you very much!
Good to know. We'll there's no palm trees in kansas. But is always good to know..thank you I have learn alot from your Chanel
So nice of you! Take care!
Thanks Bino. I have been watching and learning from your videos for years. Thanks and stay safe.
Much appreciated!
That's an awesome video Bino thanks for sharing 👍...!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Have arborists considered putting up a safety net or large pillow under the tree they will be working on before beginning ascent?
I don't believe that is practical.
Na, two pillows much better
A pillow? That is a big too Wiley Coyote isn't it?
I think cutting it from the top down hen palm trees have more than 3 years of growth is the rule in general and what they recommend. Using a lift is best.
...extremely entertaining! YES! I enjoyed it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The weeping willow tree is pretty dangerous to
Awesome vid definitely applicable here in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷🌴
Good to hear!
Thanks for educating me. I have been wondering how climbers were being killed by palms.
You're welcome!
I haven’t tried this method before I usually set my life line up before I go in so I can descend in an emergency. I like this will try it. Thank you as always for good content.
Nice, thank you take care!
Never crawl up a Palms skirt! Just do not do it!
ayo
I didn't know about the whole ring, fluffing off on top of you. Don't think I'll be doing anymore palm tree's, because they are a hassle. One thing I'd like to add, is also the wet sawdust. That the palm leaves are made of. Are very irritating to the eyes. Learned that one, the hard way.
Thanks for sharing!
We don't get those crazy extreme Palms here in North Florida like you guys do in South Florida and California but I am always afraid that my rope over the top is going to get cut by those fronds they're so sharp! I've never had it happen I've never even had it close to happen but it's just one of those things you know in the back of your mind when you're 40 or 50 ft in the air when you definitely should not be thinking about that LOL like I said never happened never even cut the sheath but I'm always like thinking about it.... maybe I am getting too old to be climbing LOL
The day you posted this, a tree guy died in the valley due to a rotten tree
The idea of climbing a palm and trimming from the top down sounds good in theory....in florida we have alot of washingtonia's and you will NOT pull a rope through the top of these without getting caught and or compromising your rope
It's something that's done here in California in Washingtona robusta without getting stuck or damaging your rope all the time. It's not a theory it's a fact.
@@BinoH please make a video on how because i have tried multiple times and never had success..i have also asked several local owners that have been in business 20+ years and they all agree its almost impossible
@@ttvilaxell2742 Here are a few videos. the first one is a friend of mine on a Mexican fan palm SRS.
The next is another friend of mine installing for MRS system.
The last is one of my videos on a queen it's not has hard as a Mexican fan Palm.
czcams.com/video/OjK3EWcmw8o/video.html
czcams.com/video/Y_mC7z-jMAg/video.html
czcams.com/video/H1W-ZUe6uhQ/video.html
I hope these help
@@BinoH at 2:22 seconds what is your friend using on his rope to keep it from getting caught
@@ttvilaxell2742 I believe it's a brass cap you may be able to buy in a hardware store
What are your thoughts on using a pole saw when cleaning palms from underneath? A lot of guys in Australia do this
That works if the palm tree is short but if they're tall it's better to climb.
A thousand thank yous Bino.
RIP Bardomiano Bautista Perez. 🙏🌴
You're welcome and respect to your friend!
No palm trees in Oklahoma. I cut trees all my life. But I was literally 1 step from Death on a sunny calm afternoon walking to a neighbors and for no reason half the tree fell a section 2 ft diameter half the tree. It was NOT being cut. No winds just crack & fall missing my head & body by literally 1 Foot. I did tree work for 20 years and the one that wasn't being cut or worked on almost took my life back in 2013. Later we saw tree was rotted in the middle huge elm. Freak accident. I was not harmed luckily
Thanks for sharing!
@@BinoH your welcome
There's something fishy about Alex's zigzag. the rope goes the wrong way around the pulley. This must be intentional! Around @5:58
Great video by the way, thanks for sharing!
I'm unsure it the way he used the Zigzag was intentional. What I was hoping to show out of this clip was how the petiole bases were so easy to take off.
I remember a saying my boss told me years ago just because you own a chainsaw that doesn't mean you know how to take a tree down and he would tell customers that quite a bit it's a difficult job.
I agree!
Hey Bino, so in the first example, they basically made a false crotch with a basal anchor and tied in from there?
Yes and used and used a Moving rope system.
Thanks for sharing Bino. This is usually how I do palm trees in my area. However, I find that the fronds' teeth are a bit rough on my ropes when I'm getting them through. Any tips on this?
Once you get your throw line over pull it slowly so your doesn't drop to the base of the terminal stem also some guys use a metal pointed cap that has a hole on the end of the rope to help go throw the canopy.
@@BinoH I'll try it, thanks!
@@BinoH I'd like to see that metal cap Bino if you have time
Thank you much appreciated
You're welcome!
super bien expliqué Bino , merci beaucoup, signé : un ami de france
You're welcome!
I like the tree squeeze that's pretty cool. A lot of people get hurt on Mexican fans with old growth or they don't thin the fan before they top it if they are taking it down.
That's true!
Interesting and informative.
Glad you think so!
Fire is the best way to fix a palm tree. Pretty to watch too
Really good info Thanks,
Glad it was helpful!
I been working for the county here in Florida by Tampa for 10 years, last 6 years in the tree crew, we have a genie bucket lift that goes 50 feet in the air, I’ve done palm trees, oak trees, dead trees, especially after hurricanes and before, I respect these guys that spike up and just use a rope, I wouldn’t be able to, we wear chaps and hard hats, I’m starting my own tree business next month, and after all these years I always make sure I take my time and everything right, I feel safer in a lift, they go for 33k new or can rent one for 230 dollars a day,
Thanks for sharing! take care!
It's not an intuitive danger which makes it very dangerous. When I first hear of this and saw the video I couldn't even imagine what the dynamics were. Wasn't until the fronds were pushed off the guy that I could see how he was trapped and what the risk was. Weird thing but high risk.
I think the danger is increased because homeowners who let fronds pile up for years are the same owners who will look for the cheapest solution and hire an untrained person.
Very true!
Srt ! Throw line over the top base tie , trim a spot to set up a retrievable anchor and trim on the way down 🤙🤙
Sorry made that comment at the start of the video lol
It's not a bad comment, thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
Thank you
You're welcome!
Well what happens when your tied into the top if the palm. Well if the top can just fall out wouldn’t you fall anyway
Hopefully the climber would have inspected before he climbed. That could help prevent something like that from happening.
This is why our company will only trim palms using bucket trucks. The only time a climber is used is if it needs going to be removed lol.
That makes sense. Take care!
Old growth double rope on palms my way in Florida come down
That is a nice way to come down.
Sir what is the name of the company that Martin and rip do their arbor training at?
Arbor Master Training
www.arbormaster.com/
When an Industry continues to have the same fatalities over and over again, it is unable to regulate itself. So Laws and mandates must come into play. NO UNDERCUTTING $200,000 fine, see how that goes.
True that's how some standards are created.
I’m a professional firefighter in the Phoenix AZ metropolitan area, I’ve been on our technical rescue team for 16 of my 20 years. I’ve been on 2 of these rescues and train for these rescues ever year, I’ve never seen nor heard of a professional tree trimmer have this happen to them but I’m not saying it’s never happened. What I am saying is that these incidents usually occur because a “meth head” type solicits a property owner to trim their tree who has no idea what the risks involved are. Trying to fine this type of person $200,000 while the streets of Phoenix have become a haven for homeless encampments and drug use isn’t viable, you can’t get blood from a turnip.
@@strykerjones8842 No worries, 200k for the property owner and 2 years jail for the meth head up the tree, problem solved.
@@1mmickk No worries? You can keep that authoritarian, goose stepping, government interventionist over reach down under “mate”.
Thanks!
No problem! and Thank you very much again!
Thank you man
You're welcome!
Using a drone to set a rope What a great area❤❤❤😅😅
That's Nick Araya from TreecareLA
When I was 17 a friend of mine was killed by his chainsaw when he was in a frontloader bucket 20' up and slipped.
City employees are not trained on shyt. But we use everything. Hell, I rolled a freaking steamroller.
Sorry about your friend. I disagree about City employees my crew and myself are very well trained.
Yeah, I think that about some of them city crew's in certain areas of the country. It's judgy by me but there's a lot of city's.
What do you think about using a deer stand to climb and work on a palm?
I would rather use Stationary Rope System.
ESO DEL ""DRON'"" ME GUSTO LA IDEA ..JEJEJE...COOL!!!!
It does look pretty awesome!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
They put out no shade why would u want one
That's true but we have lots of palms here in California.
good question
That drone would be cool for super tall coconuts
It seem like it would be a lot easier than trying to shot or throw.
How can I become a climber arborist? Where can I get trained?
There are a couple of places that I know of Abormaster Training and Academy Trained. Try to find a mentor you could also check out my playlist of Intro to tree climbing.
Chain saw drones I see the future
Great video
Thanks!
Seems like a hard way to make a buck f that cut it down
Senor Martin es un hombre badass!
Yes he is!
6:12
Not an expert, but is he really using zig zag correctly?
Seems like rope is not through pulley.
Who'd want to do that kind of work?
Climbing arborists.
That throwing the rope over the top technique looks dangerous as hell.
It's actually very safe if it's done properly.
At the property where I work doing landscape, we have five tall tall palm trees. I want to climb one. The case of the recent death on a tree has directed attention to the matter. 31123
I bid palms at a minimum of $100 per palm and I lose bids to idiots charging $30 a palm
Thank the open southern border.
Where I'm from these stingy mfs want to pay 20$ to climb a 50 foot palm I gotta charge cheap if I wanna make a living
Thanks for reminding me through this video.
you're welcome!
How do set the top anchor?
Next to the terminal.
I have trimmed hundreds of palms from the ground up, never had any incidents. What has changed? Why are there more wrecks involved with palms?
Bearded palms? 3+ years of growth?
What species?
@@edsida California fan palm virgin 20+ years growth, Queen palm virgin 20+ years growth, Date palm virgin 20+ years growth where the frawns touch the ground and bent so hard you have to tunnel through with a chainsaw with PPE wearing a dust mask and tons of dead rats opossums bords and cats.
That's nothing.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
Always have a helicopter for Palm tree trimming.... safety first 🥇
Palms definitely suck. Wasps bats snakes and scorpions are some of the things I've seen just off the top of my head 😅 I hate climbing palms 🫤 "Big Shot" is a big help. They also make a flare looking gun that does the same thing with blank 22 cal shell 😁
Thanks for sharing!
I not even let my trees grow that tall
Palms seem to be trash trees. Nothing like normal trees. Looks like it takes special skills.
True they are another animal all together. The best way to trim them is from the top down. Take care!
I think palms are the most dangerous. Great work Bino. 🪓🙂
Thank you!
10:53 who is that saying take a guess
It's from the TreeCare La video. part of the back ground.
Tragic.
I agree!
Easily my a**!😅 I think you would have to be in pretty fabulous shape to be able to do that!
Don't I wish...
Clickbait. I came here to see someone react to horrific accidents, and instead, I got an instructional on how to do it the right way.
thanks for the warning, I was about to watch it
...but then towards the end; I see a potbellied guy scooting up the palm tree. I don't understand 🤔
JEEZE!!! I cant with you!! @ 15:17 its not against trimming STANDARDS ????????????????????????????????????????? Im done.. ANSI A 300 PRUNING STANDARDS sec 5 sub 5.2.2 Climbing spurs shall not be used when climbing and pruning trees. I own a tree service and operate inside of a 300 daily. For the record there is absolutely nothing written about what you mentioned early about national standards for pruning palms. @ 1:00 you shall not trim from underneath you should trim from above ansi a300 section 5 sub 8.1 - 8.4 Not one thing is mentioned about anything you spoke about. Do you even look this stuff up before you talk about it. You had to know somebody in the industry was eventually going to hear you talk and let you know that everything you're saying is wrong. How can you of all people be an authority. Where are your videos of climbing? I would truly love to see them. I am a certified arborist & a certified Arborist Utility Specialist and have a degree in Forestry. You have made me decide today to start a page. You should never be in authority in this industry
Ansi Z133-2017, 8.3.8 This mentions Arborist Shall trim from above palm skirts with an arborist system. the previous Ansi book had written with the tree years of growth the palms shall not be trimmed underneath the skirt.
Messy video.
I use the big shot almost in every tree I climb. I climb very large and tall trees in SW Pennsylvania.
Yes if you need the big shot for every tree the trees must be big!
@@BinoH I just climb for fun. I have bought the best gear over time and go climbing about once a week, so I pick the tall Poplars and Cherry Trees. I have valleys everywhere around me and sometimes have to use my throw line on the downhill side of the tree and that adds 20-30 more feet.
@@tittyrino Nice sounds like fun.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Thanks!
You bet!