So far we don’t have an official price. The only rumours suggest it’s a *lot* more than the equivalent-performance Tesla Model 3. The interior looks a lot more luxurious, and for all the horrors of the haptic nonsense it supports Apple CarPlay, but then that suggests that this isn’t competing with the 3 directly at all, but the Ioniq 6.
If Tesla ever got their fingers out of their butts and stopped going down the dull and drab, minimalistic interiors look, I'd go for a Model 3 any and every day. Their running gear is still the best. But as their interiors look awful and uninspiring, in my opinion, it has to be the VW.
@@thezanzibarbarian5729 oh, I don’t know; they match Tesla’s dull and drab exteriors quite well. I can’t decide if the “computer says this is efficient, I guess” shape is better or worse than the “colours include Black, White, Red or Blue” paint.
I don't know why you Journalists keep knocking the VW infotainment system in their ID range. I have an ID.3 and find it works brilliantly with lots of very helpful and easy to use systems. Maybe it's because you don't have the cars for long enough to appreciate the depth of work that has gone into them.
They finally fixed the lack of illumination for heating controls and now created a new nightmare by having air vents controlled only by touchscreen! Designers gone mad.
This is a typical company car and often used as pool car. Each Driver can set the vents for its own and store it in an own profile....as soon the driver changes the vents are exactly as loved by each driver! If it is your private car...your wife and you can set it the own wished setting and store it...like memory seats.
@@car_photographicin China, the biggest market in the world, id7 launch was a disaster with only 300 orders in the first 3 days. 😂. And China market love big sedans. All the media in the world talked about it
@@stefanconstantinescu1576 the thing is that VW never sold much in the first weeks because they have traditional sales where as Tesla etc sell more online
sorry, but your report is incorrect 3:05 the ID 3 Facelift has software 3.5 and ID 7 has ID software 4.0 The problem with the navigation was only seen on one video - Tesla Bjorn's one and was not reported by anyone else and Tesla Bjorn was driving pre-production prototype.
I like the look of this car, much better than the model 3. I'm presuming they'll have a high price for private buyers but do good deals for company car fleets. Looking forward to seeing this on the second hand market in 4-5 years. My main reticence at buying an EV at the moment is most have a range 2-300 miles. At 3-400 miles this should cover most journeys easily. Looks better quality than tesla but is more economical than bmw and mercedes.
Interesting how the review makes a big thing of the wheelbase at 2990 mm was it? The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is not mentioned here as a competitor which is strange as that car is also a big hatchback with a long range and a slightly bigger 3000 mm wheelbase giving it even more interior space than the VW. Both the Hyundai and Kia EV6 are selling well in Europe, are in the price range of the VW and have won all kinds of awards and plaudits from reviewers and owners. Strange how only Tesla and other German brands were included in this comparison when those Korean brands are at least as good in quality and performance and in some aspects have better technology (the 800v charging system and V2L)
I wonder where the pricing will start? The Tesla 3 hits the sweet spot (£45k ish) for a lot of company car drivers, hence why there are so many, but I think the ID7 will be way above that and won’t be on the ‘sales rep’ list.
Talking about a timeless design, like most of the VW in the past. A GOLF IV still looks not antique due to this kind of design...which is the success story of VW.
@@kitlai768 Polestar 1 is not in the same price range of the ID 7. Polestart 1 is supposed to be premium, ID 7 is more for the normal people like Golf, Bettle etc...
People should just welcome another EV to the market rather than make pointless comparisons to a Tesla. To be honest, this is more a threat to the BMW i4 or the FWD Polestar 2 than the Model 3
The VW ID.3 is not "plagued with glitchy infotainment software". I drive one and I find the infotainment system is terrific and easy to use. All you Jouralists jump on a bandwagon and are not objective. I think I know my way around the system very well now and I think most owners coukd show you features that you're unaware of. If I was a VW Engineer, I'd be very disappointed by your unwarranted and very strong criticisms.
It really annoys me when you praise their range figures then in the next sentence say of course in reality the range will be much less, don’t you realise how plain stupid this sounds to potential purchasers. It’s about time manufacturers and journalist who praise them stop messing the buying public about, give us realistic figures or just don’t bother, we the public are not as stupid as you seem to think! 😡😡😡
I totally agree. It's very annoying. Whilst WLTP figures are an improvement on NEDC, they are not representative of real-world driving and should only be used as a rough guide. EV Database UK gives fairly accurate real-world estimates on their website, both as an all-round average and for different driving conditions. Of course, there are so many parameters involved that it really comes down to the driver.
Since this is the typical company car and this market is about 70% of the entire market ...it will sell like hot cakes. I will be happy to see this car for me as second usage car. My Passat GTE as also typical company car was 50% bellow listprice after only 13k km.
Since several big companies already stopped alwoing ICE as fleet cars..and some will stop in 2025, this ID7 as a typical Company car, will sell like hot cakes. A lot of companies have much higher CO2 targets than politian think about. By the way...my Passat GTE was at 71k Listprice...not really different.
This car is 10 inches longer than a Model 3. I wonder how it will be priced relative to the Model 3. The int is a big jump forward from the cheap ID4 interior. They should update the main screen of the ID4 and the motors with these new motors.
@@patriotbarrow yeah well... fair enough. The ID 2 looks more interesting than this. Also, they should just do an EV T-Rock for 30 to 35k and call it a day
Drove 20 years Audis as V6 TDI...and now the second Passat GTE...don't know why I spent the money for this so called Premium Brand. The BMW is driving good, but if you drive the same distance with a VW Passat or a BMW 3/5, you are more tired in the BMW...only in direct comparison. The steering of the BMW is a little bit too "nervous"...they call it sporty...to be comfortable on long trips.
@@josefv-y8m I used to have a BMW 300d coupe. The steering is not twitchy in BMW's. As for comfort. After 150 mile journeys, I'd get feeling as fresh as when I started.
@@simonsays911 No one ist too late...there are 1.2 Billion cars to be replaced...the EV market is far, far away from being saturated from any OEM. The normal developed cycle is about 3 years...does this mean cars in 3,6,9,12 years are too late...no, they are just new and another iteration of development, which will be sold, too. And I can not see any advantage of Tesla anymore...other than develivering bad quality including the software...solving an issue and introducing two new issues...which is unfortunatelly the nature of agile Development...doing this 30 years. Tesla Vision...ROFL
@@simonsays911 VW Group sold 2x as many cars as Tesla last year in Europe. So i don t know what you mean. Both Model S and X lost market to other german luxury EV as well, at least in Europe.
The one thing that Tesla has over other EVs' is the sentry mode feature! In today's world security, cameras, and the ability to view what is going on with your vehicle when you're not there is amazingly beneficial! All manufactures should make this standard now a days!
So a 436 mile range from an 88kw battery? making this run at around 4.9 Miles per kWh??? Can't see it getting anywhere near lol! Long Range Tesla will still shade it in the real world I bet.
It’s Passat/Superb sized car not a Model 3 competitor. Ludicrous price - I bought a top spec Superb for under £30k not too long ago. This will be £65k plus for a decent spec - no way many people will be buying one. Come on VW it’s just a cynical marketing ploy and hardly any will be made.
Then I congratulate you - the Superb now starts at over £31k for the most basic model, and it’s very easy to get north of £40k without even choosing the hybrid.
I wish you guys can try the Byd Han against the Id7. The VW Ev issues are the software issues reported by id4 user worldwide.. the software team in VW needs to fix the info software issues. Design wise the Id7 is very nice.
Wake me up when an EV can do 500 miles on a freezing cold winter's day with the heater going full blast and with the lights on. And when a full charge takes less than 5 minutes.
You forgot to add "towing a caravan, with five people, luggage and a roof rack, uphill both there and back, without stopping and in under 6 hours". If you're going to play EV Bingo, at least try to nail all the "must have" points!
voice activation is absolutely shit. Forget driving this car with people who speak a different language. It triggers all the freaking time, its so annoying.
Sorry but I’ve owned an iD4 and the infotainment system is truely terrible, their ability to fix issues with their recalls is laughable (still waiting for them to fix issues that have been announced months ago, and the EA supercharger network is, well, pathetically lacking. I’m buying a Model Y next.
you think the voice communication is annoying..... You say "Hi ID" to activate it... try having a wife named Heidi. I literally have to call her "Wife" in the car, thats her name now.
VW is garbage on the software side, and unfortunately for the EV that is very important especially since they are removing physical controls.I don't appreciate Tesla neither with their lack of insulation and so many more issue. Mercedes and BMW usually suck at range and are super expensive. So it seems like today no automaker is able to build an over all good quality ev car that is not costing a fortune. Besides, the EV infrastructure is far far away from what it's needed today, how about when EV will scale for gen population ?!
A Tesla killer? That's hilarious. As long as it'll take VW to roll out the ID7, Tesla will have advanced a couple of more generations, and augmented their already industry-leading profit margin per car, through advanced battery and manufacturing technology and process. That said - I hope VW succeeds, along with all the other legacy auto manufacturers who've committed to EV's versus ICE architecture.
VW ID.7 vs Tesla Model 3 - what's your winner?? 👇
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Easily the ID.7, but it will be nowhere near the price of the Model 3.
So far we don’t have an official price. The only rumours suggest it’s a *lot* more than the equivalent-performance Tesla Model 3.
The interior looks a lot more luxurious, and for all the horrors of the haptic nonsense it supports Apple CarPlay, but then that suggests that this isn’t competing with the 3 directly at all, but the Ioniq 6.
If Tesla ever got their fingers out of their butts and stopped going down the dull and drab, minimalistic interiors look, I'd go for a Model 3 any and every day. Their running gear is still the best.
But as their interiors look awful and uninspiring, in my opinion, it has to be the VW.
@@thezanzibarbarian5729 oh, I don’t know; they match Tesla’s dull and drab exteriors quite well. I can’t decide if the “computer says this is efficient, I guess” shape is better or worse than the “colours include Black, White, Red or Blue” paint.
I don't know why you Journalists keep knocking the VW infotainment system in their ID range.
I have an ID.3 and find it works brilliantly with lots of very helpful and easy to use systems.
Maybe it's because you don't have the cars for long enough to appreciate the depth of work that has gone into them.
They finally fixed the lack of illumination for heating controls and now created a new nightmare by having air vents controlled only by touchscreen! Designers gone mad.
This is a typical company car and often used as pool car.
Each Driver can set the vents for its own and store it in an own profile....as soon the driver changes the vents are exactly as loved by each driver!
If it is your private car...your wife and you can set it the own wished setting and store it...like memory seats.
Except it isn't a nightmare. I've used it. You're just moaning.
Nice car and if they get rid of the capacitive steering wheel buttons we are getting somehwere.
I have the ID4, I’d prefer a normal button but you get used to it. Shouldn’t be a deal breaker imo.
Obsession with having all controls on a screen is awful. Adjusting ventilation on screen instead of manual controls? Seriously?
It is not comparable with Model 3 but Model S
And its better than both of them
@@car_photographicin China, the biggest market in the world, id7 launch was a disaster with only 300 orders in the first 3 days. 😂. And China market love big sedans.
All the media in the world talked about it
@@stefanconstantinescu1576 the thing is that VW never sold much in the first weeks because they have traditional sales where as Tesla etc sell more online
50 grand for an electric VW ? Think i'd rather keep the money in the bank earning interest than spending that amount.
Yep - I had a Superb Estate that was less than £30k. Price for this is just stupid.
sorry, but your report is incorrect
3:05 the ID 3 Facelift has software 3.5 and ID 7 has ID software 4.0
The problem with the navigation was only seen on one video - Tesla Bjorn's one and was not reported by anyone else and Tesla Bjorn was driving pre-production prototype.
The Tesla is about to be updated, so this will be interesting. The VW looks like a Mondeo!
Tesla also looks like a Mondeo😂
Not as much as it looks like a Passat, mind you, which makes sense.
Yes… well said. This VW does look like a Mondeo… totally bland 👎
I'd rather have my slightly smaller Genesis GV60 Sport and pocket the change!
So you would rather have a more expensive car with less range…?
@@aidan825 I'd rather have a car that bprovided more of what I want, thus providing ME with better value for money. It's my money after all!
Have VW actually driven an Id.3 since they have been on 3.2 software? Lots of the issues are long gone.
I hope vw has got a far better infotainment system and physical buttons !!
Looks like they’ve learned nothing going by the interior, no proper buttons on the steering wheel or climate controls, think i’ll pass
Looks like Diess had a good product after all. This is really nice.
Diess was sacked in August 2022.
@@robertschulz6660 And this was one of the last cars he approved
Think I’ll stick to the good old combustion engine thanks
You mean bad old combustion engine..
@@vfr800ch Nothing bad about it. Far far from it.
And, continue killing children with its toxic carcinogenic exhaust.
@@FullFact548 Exactly..
Sounds like it's not a model 3 competitor. It's is own niche for now. The LCD roof is awesome. I wonder why others are so slow to adopt it.
I like the look of this car, much better than the model 3. I'm presuming they'll have a high price for private buyers but do good deals for company car fleets. Looking forward to seeing this on the second hand market in 4-5 years. My main reticence at buying an EV at the moment is most have a range 2-300 miles. At 3-400 miles this should cover most journeys easily. Looks better quality than tesla but is more economical than bmw and mercedes.
Interesting how the review makes a big thing of the wheelbase at 2990 mm was it? The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is not mentioned here as a competitor which is strange as that car is also a big hatchback with a long range and a slightly bigger 3000 mm wheelbase giving it even more interior space than the VW. Both the Hyundai and Kia EV6 are selling well in Europe, are in the price range of the VW and have won all kinds of awards and plaudits from reviewers and owners. Strange how only Tesla and other German brands were included in this comparison when those Korean brands are at least as good in quality and performance and in some aspects have better technology (the 800v charging system and V2L)
I wonder where the pricing will start? The Tesla 3 hits the sweet spot (£45k ish) for a lot of company car drivers, hence why there are so many, but I think the ID7 will be way above that and won’t be on the ‘sales rep’ list.
This is like 2 classes above the model 3.
Talk about an uninspiring design !
Talking about a timeless design, like most of the VW in the past.
A GOLF IV still looks not antique due to this kind of design...which is the success story of VW.
What s your "inspiring" design like ?
@@jonpetter8921 A ‘Polestar 1’ for example is what I consider a good design.
@@kitlai768 Polestar 1 is not in the same price range of the ID 7. Polestart 1 is supposed to be premium, ID 7 is more for the normal people like Golf, Bettle etc...
this competes with the model S not 3. This thing is way larger than the model 3
Way nicer too.
People should just welcome another EV to the market rather than make pointless comparisons to a Tesla. To be honest, this is more a threat to the BMW i4 or the FWD Polestar 2 than the Model 3
382 miles on a 77kw battery, so why does the dash display show 72% 322km = 201 miles = 279 miles at 100% that’s no way near 382 miles !!!!
Because it takes previous driving into account like every car.
The VW ID.3 is not "plagued with glitchy infotainment software".
I drive one and I find the infotainment system is terrific and easy to use.
All you Jouralists jump on a bandwagon and are not objective.
I think I know my way around the system very well now and I think most owners coukd show you features that you're unaware of.
If I was a VW Engineer, I'd be very disappointed by your unwarranted and very strong criticisms.
It really annoys me when you praise their range figures then in the next sentence say of course in reality the range will be much less, don’t you realise how plain stupid this sounds to potential purchasers. It’s about time manufacturers and journalist who praise them stop messing the buying public about, give us realistic figures or just don’t bother, we the public are not as stupid as you seem to think! 😡😡😡
I totally agree. It's very annoying. Whilst WLTP figures are an improvement on NEDC, they are not representative of real-world driving and should only be used as a rough guide. EV Database UK gives fairly accurate real-world estimates on their website, both as an all-round average and for different driving conditions. Of course, there are so many parameters involved that it really comes down to the driver.
How does the Ioniq 5 compare to the the ID.7 ?
This is an awesome review. Subscribed.
I can't see it shaking up the EV market to be honest. Boring looks. Way too expensive. I'd rather buy a used Tesla Model 3 and save £25k
You will need 25 k to repair the car five years later.
Since this is the typical company car and this market is about 70% of the entire market ...it will sell like hot cakes.
I will be happy to see this car for me as second usage car.
My Passat GTE as also typical company car was 50% bellow listprice after only 13k km.
Too expensive to sell in numbers
Since several big companies already stopped alwoing ICE as fleet cars..and some will stop in 2025, this ID7 as a typical Company car, will sell like hot cakes.
A lot of companies have much higher CO2 targets than politian think about.
By the way...my Passat GTE was at 71k Listprice...not really different.
This will be priced more toward Model 3 than Model S, with better range than Model 3, same range as Model S.
Nice looking car good range
Normal people dont want/cant afford a huge expensive car. Ive been in a Tesla, its horrible inside. Whats wrong with manufacturers?
This car is 10 inches longer than a Model 3. I wonder how it will be priced relative to the Model 3. The int is a big jump forward from the cheap ID4 interior. They should update the main screen of the ID4 and the motors with these new motors.
It also seems wider, and I have enough issues with my Model 3 being too wide for parking places tbh.
ID7 Pro is estimated to be £53k, so £2k more than the Model 3 long-range.
I don’t think it is the longest range as the lucid air is more
That car has a much bigger battery, it’s less efficient and doesn’t actually sell in the UK… oh and it’s more than twice the price!
Only available in N America and even there it’s a niche luxury car built in tiny numbers
Looks boring. Both exterior and interior.
yes and Tesla is the epitome of originality and stands out... not
I mean... which VW doesn't?
@@wakkadakkaify I didn't even mention Tesla... and I find tesla cars extremely boring too.
@@patriotbarrow yeah well... fair enough. The ID 2 looks more interesting than this. Also, they should just do an EV T-Rock for 30 to 35k and call it a day
@@A.X.N I like the design. It s understated, pure, like a VW should look like. Not need to be bloated like a BMW or Audi
So much money and they insist on using the quite frankly shocking window switches.
Press the rear button and hold...and all 4 windows will open...hard to achieve with the typical layout
When you start putting a VW against a BMW as they're in the same price range, there really is only one winner. And it's _NOT_ the former!!
Drove 20 years Audis as V6 TDI...and now the second Passat GTE...don't know why I spent the money for this so called Premium Brand.
The BMW is driving good, but if you drive the same distance with a VW Passat or a BMW 3/5, you are more tired in the BMW...only in direct comparison. The steering of the BMW is a little bit too "nervous"...they call it sporty...to be comfortable on long trips.
@@josefv-y8m I used to have a BMW 300d coupe. The steering is not twitchy in BMW's.
As for comfort. After 150 mile journeys, I'd get feeling as fresh as when I started.
I need price
Great exterior but not sure about the interior
Meh.
It’s difficult to compete against the Tesla. It has too many advantages.
It’s far too expensive for what it is . Now there’s more choice it can’t command that price anymore .
Legacy manufacturers are really in trouble. Too late to the game and it shows.
@@simonsays911 No one ist too late...there are 1.2 Billion cars to be replaced...the EV market is far, far away from being saturated from any OEM.
The normal developed cycle is about 3 years...does this mean cars in 3,6,9,12 years are too late...no, they are just new and another iteration of development, which will be sold, too.
And I can not see any advantage of Tesla anymore...other than develivering bad quality including the software...solving an issue and introducing two new issues...which is unfortunatelly the nature of agile Development...doing this 30 years.
Tesla Vision...ROFL
Not really. Superchargers are small beer from my perspective, the rest of the network is pretty good now in most areas if you know what you are doing.
@@simonsays911 VW Group sold 2x as many cars as Tesla last year in Europe. So i don t know what you mean. Both Model S and X lost market to other german luxury EV as well, at least in Europe.
model Y is £44,999, model 3 is below £40k, so buying over priced isn't going to help VW I'm afraid. a KIA NIRO is £32k.
Great product, but I would never pay that amount for a Sedan.
It's a liftback not a sedan.
@@timmurphy5541 never heard that word before 😂
@@Matheus545 it's like a hatchback but at a more shallow angle. Anyhow it is very nice for putting stuff in the car - lots of room.
@@timmurphy5541 very good. Do you believe this liftback will be successful in North America?
@@Matheus545 I have no idea about the us. My current car is one and I love it.
Model 3 killer? What a claim?
not yet...but it's good, to not allow tesla to sleep
Vand golf IV.
The one thing that Tesla has over other EVs' is the sentry mode feature! In today's world security, cameras, and the ability to view what is going on with your vehicle when you're not there is amazingly beneficial! All manufactures should make this standard now a days!
So a 436 mile range from an 88kw battery? making this run at around 4.9 Miles per kWh??? Can't see it getting anywhere near lol! Long Range Tesla will still shade it in the real world I bet.
RIP Tesla
👎👎👎Whats with the giant laptop glued to the dash !!!
It’s Passat/Superb sized car not a Model 3 competitor. Ludicrous price - I bought a top spec Superb for under £30k not too long ago. This will be £65k plus for a decent spec - no way many people will be buying one. Come on VW it’s just a cynical marketing ploy and hardly any will be made.
Then I congratulate you - the Superb now starts at over £31k for the most basic model, and it’s very easy to get north of £40k without even choosing the hybrid.
Another OVER PRICED bucket
An over priced milk float which sounds like a nose trimmer.
hah,hah,50k...joke
A very nice car
It's NOT vegan leather, just plastic
Give me a £3k wuling anyway.. 250 range
Oh oh
Another 'out of range' expensive car.
I wish you guys can try the Byd Han against the Id7. The VW Ev issues are the software issues reported by id4 user worldwide.. the software team in VW needs to fix the info software issues. Design wise the Id7 is very nice.
I saw a YT a few days ago BYD batteries exploding in china...freighting that more countries buyin them,look it up,EV vlog makers don't mention it...
What issues? I have an ID3 and never encountered one.
Wake me up when an EV can do 500 miles on a freezing cold winter's day with the heater going full blast and with the lights on. And when a full charge takes less than 5 minutes.
You forgot to add "towing a caravan, with five people, luggage and a roof rack, uphill both there and back, without stopping and in under 6 hours".
If you're going to play EV Bingo, at least try to nail all the "must have" points!
Nio ET7 w 150kw battery + 3 minutes full swap of this giant battery. Its 2030 already. Wake up
@@ciybersal9833 Sorry, forget that. How many swap stations are there in the UK? 0. Not really viable at this point.
@@djtaylorutube Yeah, the UK is always last to the parry 😞
Id prefer it over a tesla
I believe the 2nd Gen ID7 will inevitably be much better with many of the stupid bugs/poor design issues ironed out.
Impressive video.
voice activation is absolutely shit. Forget driving this car with people who speak a different language. It triggers all the freaking time, its so annoying.
Sorry but I’ve owned an iD4 and the infotainment system is truely terrible, their ability to fix issues with their recalls is laughable (still waiting for them to fix issues that have been announced months ago, and the EA supercharger network is, well, pathetically lacking. I’m buying a Model Y next.
Why VW why?. Pointless big heavy EV that won't sell much or make VW a profit. New Model 3 will kill it on price and efficiency.
Tesla is just waiting for everyone else to catch up and then change the game again
Lol no.
Tesla is the one catching up, Model S and X are dying. The ID 7 will give Model 3 and S the same fate. Only Model Y is surviving now.
Looks like discount Tesla interior
You´re kidding? Driving a Tesla on an normal road is like driving a discount car.
hahahahahahahaha, the joke of the year
Discount Tesla interior, biggest joke ever. 1200 Lada has more luxury interior than Tesla.
you think the voice communication is annoying..... You say "Hi ID" to activate it... try having a wife named Heidi. I literally have to call her "Wife" in the car, thats her name now.
Tesla still ahead of VW as it plays catchup.
VW is garbage on the software side, and unfortunately for the EV that is very important especially since they are removing physical controls.I don't appreciate Tesla neither with their lack of insulation and so many more issue. Mercedes and BMW usually suck at range and are super expensive. So it seems like today no automaker is able to build an over all good quality ev car that is not costing a fortune. Besides, the EV infrastructure is far far away from what it's needed today, how about when EV will scale for gen population ?!
A Tesla killer? That's hilarious. As long as it'll take VW to roll out the ID7, Tesla will have advanced a couple of more generations, and augmented their already industry-leading profit margin per car, through advanced battery and manufacturing technology and process. That said - I hope VW succeeds, along with all the other legacy auto manufacturers who've committed to EV's versus ICE architecture.
Boring