RARE made good N64 games. Shame this didnt come out. Since Star Fox Adventures , while an ok game. I just think this would have held up better if they made Dinosaur Planet
I think they just ran out of time to finish the game. There are a lot more clues to it being a rush job than Krystal’s story being cut entirely. There is a strange mixture of both polish and jank throughout the game, sometimes even in the same scene. Shame we’ll never get to see all of the developer’s dreams brought to fruition.
That's the GameCube as a whole. Smash brosh, F-Zero, Super Mario Sunshine... I remember thinking "wow I wonder when these graphics will become outdated" back in 2002. But they never became outdated.
Love Starfox Adventures, even after all this time it's still my second favorite videogame. I love the contrast in high graphic fidelity each version has for their respective hardware. Rare really did push themselves to make something special.
5:47 these cutscenes are literally the same outside of updated graphics. You can even see GCN Fox reaching for his sword the same way N64 Fox is, despite not having one.
Better maybe. But without the name starfox, probably forgotten with many forgotten N64 and GC titles. It would have never sold as many copies if sold as "dinosaur planet".
Considering how quickly Starfox Adventures came out after when Dinosaur Planet supposedly ceased development, it's amazing how good it looked for the time.
I think it's amazing that not much has changed (besides the graphics, of course) this game is simply gorgeous for the Nintendo 64 standard, the gameplay is very well done and the graphics are exceptional for the platform, RARE really managed to push the console to the limit here, maybe even more than they did with Conker and Jet Set Gemini. It is a pity that RARE did not follow its original idea, this game could have become the game that would close the Nintendo 64 cycle with a golden key (similar to Majora Mask and Conker Bad Fur Day), it could have become an excellent classic, but in the end it just became a average Star Fox game for the Game Cube that nobody cares about. PS: Star Fox Adventures is a good game, it just isn't a good Star Fox game.
As a kid star fox adventures was the only star fox game I ever played. I thought every other star fox game was incredibly boring by comparison. Adventures had fox in an actual playable form comparable to his appearances in Smash 64 and Melee. Then when I played starfox 64, I was just like, okay, when are we gonna stop flying? And I couldn't believe that was the entire game.
@@MoonSarito saddly Rareware was under Nintendo's control. So Miyamoto decided this game will change into a Starfox game. We can see in this late N64 built that the beta was made up after the Nintendo's decision. ( Fox character model and not Sabre anymore. ) The game had already changed. It would be amazing to get on an earlier built of the game to see the major differences with Sabre in it!
And Eveline Fisher's voice acting. Perfect Dark is my favourite game of all time, so hearing Joanna's voice is cool too, haha. But I really don't care for the dino language in the slightest
@@realamericannegro977 SFA Krystal does have a bit of a Dejah Thoris aesthetic going for her, doesn't she? I personally prefer her cuter-looking DP design. Simple, but very expressive and downright adorable.
6:36 Even Fox's dialogues are almost the same with the same voiceclip, the decision to move the game to the Game Cube must have come very late in development. (One thing I noticed is that unlike Crystal, Fox doesn't have facial expressions, it could be that they put him at the last minute too). This Build is very complete for a beta, but I still wonder if there is any build with Saber (the original fox of the game) playable out there, it's a shame that Miyamoto turned this game into a Star Fox, if he had left with the original idea of rare for the Nintendo 64 without a doubt would become a classic, it's weird but I had more fun playing this beta than Star Fox Adventures.
Sabre is still in the game. In fact, despite the fact that they put Fox model in, it's still Sabre, mage Randorn's son and Krystal's childhood friend. But the model is still there, theres a trick to turn it back on.
for reference, DP began development around July 1997. Also, Sabre is a wolf. As far as anyone can tell, this is one of the first builds of the game to have Fox.
N64 Scales: "Let's just say we had a nice little chat." *Sips imaginary tea* *Backhands cartoon vixen* "Ha ha, nice try." *Siiiiiiiiip* Gamecube Scales: "LEE DUNE SOON TAVOOK...GENERAL SCALES!!!" *Chucks endowed vixen off of ship*
I really enjoyed Starfox's adventures but what bums me out is the fact that Krystal was put into a crystal and is left dormant for the rest of the game after the prologue. It felt very misleading on the game cover... you thought she would play a bigger role or be one of fox's sidekicks... But nope... Just a sex icon for fox and a damsel in distress for the player. If they had given fox a proper introduction with Krystal... Had let both Fox and Krystal be playable with their own missions to complete or change the male fox that looks like fox mcloud (which started this whole thing.) I think this game would have be stellar... minus the flying to a different planet,
@@drew2031 it's a ray of light when they put her in the star fox series...however krystal did not play a significant role in them... I think nintendo was trying to bury her... seeing that the last two-star fox games seemed to be a remastered and a remake of star fox 64... the re-mastered one could have brought her in... but they didn't it seemed.
Think that was the plan, but jump to new platform and Fox addition significantly changed things. Krystal was the most featured in old promotional art for the game on N64. I think you were supposed to jump between characters on your journey. Yea, found it on Unseen 64, " According to many, in the porting Rare dropped some of the most interesting features, so we may never know if the Nintendo 64 version was better. Certainly much has been changed in the porting process: the main character, Saber, became Fox Mc Cloud, Crystal’s role was heavily cut (she should have been a fully playable character) "
I like how in some spots you could have sworn it is a remaster, in others, you can tell that they're different games. Even in the same scene haha. Adventures kind of confused me with the Cloudrunner baby on Scales' ship. I always thought it was a "wow he's mean he kidnaps little babies", but in Planet it's made more clear. Adventures would always be a soft spot to me and I still adore some aspects like the OST and graphics to bits. But I feel like I would have loved the original just as much. Would kill for a remake that blends the two games (basically playable Krystal)
@@DahniSmith wow good call on the connection between the princess and tricky! i definitely feel like it might have been because of the spellstones, what with the trope of royalty being "endowed" with greatness, and the fact that some of that does bleed into the final product. If I recall correctly, the Earthwalker and Cloudrunner families were both instrumental in completing the game. It's pretty baffling why they didn't keep the baby Cloudrunner as a princess in the end because of that tbh
I personally feel that Nintendo should remake Adventures, but take a lot of the elements from Dinosaur Planet. Instead of Krystal just being a damsel in distress, have her partner up with Fox to save the planet. Have Tricky and Kyte interact with each as rivals and begrudging friends. And give everyone unique abilities that help them solve different tasks; Fox with his blaster and advanced technology to deal with physical obstructions, Krystal with her staff and magic to deal with magical obstructions. And give Tricky and Kyte unique abilities as well. I honestly think Nintendo has the foundation to make a great StarFox game with an incredible story here.
It must hurt but the n64 came in a troubled time. Everyone imagined these kind of games on it but the capacity just wasnt enough and the ram was too small, with higher resoluted textures the cpu wasnt enough. it came had it 5 titles that could not be created on the psx and it just stayed alive because of its outstanding design. You see how the machine strugles to push those few polygons and you see how the next gen graphic carts just went beserk on the old machine. Light effects, look at the Fur and details like teeth, chip supported "motion effects" on the sail and tail. Shine effects on eyeballs and skin. The psx could run every kind of game because of the medium that cd was. Players had to bare the steps down on the graphical side but you still could release a version of every thinkable game on the machine until the ps2 took the torch. The N64 could be seen as a prototype of a technique that evolved so fast that it just wasnt strong enough by 97 anymore, first becausae of the medium second because of the hardware and a horrible sound chip. (sold my psx to have zelda and missed enemies on the map, ended up playing tony hawk and roll cage, driver and metal gear on a borrowed playstation)
Graphically and the characters' designs are way better on the GC, but the story and level design look thousands of times better on the N64. It's a shame we ended up with a butchered version.
The story is definitely not the same. Krazoa spirits are never mentioned on Dinosaur Planet, and in Star Fox Adventure they are a major plot point. Also, Krystal is a major character in DP instead of just the "girl you need to rescue". Swapping between the two chars would have been amazing. But the game turned out as it did, because they were really rushed by the companies, because at the time Rare was being bought by Microsoft and they were asked to rush the game. Proof of this is that Rare announced that they have been bought by Microsoft literally 1 day after Star Fox Adventures' release date.
I mean compare RE2 on N64 to RE:Zero or REmake, or RE4. lol Or a typically good looking N64 game like Perfect Dark which took full advantage of the Expansion pak, introduced the first ever reloading animations in any FPS, etc., vs. an early GameCube title like Metroid Prime. GameCube was an obscene jump forward. lmfao Shit, just look at a game like Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell running in 480p on GCN or Xbox and even try fathoming that game on even a PS2. LOL
@@GAkers What's weird is that Rocky was the one that became the WarpStone, but Rubble's function of transporting you to Ice Mountain to get Tricky was also kept.
I got to be honest, Dinosaur Planet could have been a promising Nintendo 64 game if it wasn't 'remastered' as Stairfax Temperatures for the Nintendo Gamecube.
I’d love to play a Remake or Remastered version of this Star Fox game on the Switch in the future one of these days, especially when this unreleasedN64 title: Dinosaur Planet which later became Star Fox Adventures on the GameCube is the last Nintendo exclusive title to ever be made by Rare before Microsoft bought out the company in 2002 and then later put Rare through it’s own dark age in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s with changing the third Banjo-Kazooie title from a 3D platformer to a Vehicular Construction game, and Kinect Sports camera games. I mean sure Rare has now been living in a revival era since the Killer Instinct Seasonal Reboot, and they may have one new original title that is Sea of Thieves these days, and the Everwild title now currently in the works these days too of course. But the point is, I’d honestly would love to play this Zelda inspired Star Fox game a.k.a. Rare’s last Nintendo exclusive title before they became an Xbox owned game company since 2002, and I honestly wouldn’t mind at all if a remake or remaster of Star Fox Adventures on the Switch was made by a different game developer whether it be new or popular by experience one of these days too.
The intro cutscenes in this video Dinosaur Planet: Riveting start to what promises to be an amazing adventure with fleshed- out characters. Starfox Adventures: BLAVOO DEPROSTO GREPTMU BDLEISU AKUM DELSO GENERAL SCALES
god whose idea was it to incorporate "Dino language"? It's utterly pointless and the fact that they occasionally speak english sometimes makes it even more stupid.
I understand why starfox adventure ended up looking SO good: they didn't have anything to do but to focus on the graphics. Game was 95% done, only thing was to update the graphics, and they had plenty of time do so effectively since they knew exactly what models they wanted and how they fell in place with each other.
Miyamoto was on the right track for incorporating the Star Fox universe into it. How it turned out though...so anyways, how about that weather, huh? Really though, a good idea but I'm not sure who gets the blame for the overall execution and direction of the concept.
Interesting comparison. To be honest, this doesn't show a major difference between Dinosaur Planet and Star Fox Adventures, because Fox was already put in. An even earlier build without Fox would probably tell us even more about how Dinosaur Planet would have turned out.
This needs a cleaned up HD port to Switch. Is it a "Star Fox" game? Not really, but it is a good game and holds up well. It would likely do really well/better on the Switch.
I think they simply didn't do it, because the original story writers wanted a move cohesive and understandable narrative for dinosaur planet, and of course not really use any SC-FI elements, so there wouldn't need to be a translator device. And also, even if they wanted to do, it would practically be impossible to do on the N64 because of cartridge limitations on storing multiple voice lines for an english and dino language version on just one single cutscene. The GameCube can avoid this easily because it uses 1.5 GB mini discs that can store way more stuff.
I always found it disappointing that you play as Krystal for only like 10 minutes. I kind of wish they fleshed out her character/backstory more or make you play as her for half of the game and the other half you play as fox.
I think the N64 voice acting is way superior, specially considering that the CG has that lame dinosaur language, many might like it, but the fact that sometimes they use english words like Shrine or General Scales, it just ruins it for me.
It was obviously placeholder by developers on the N64... The dinosaur language is a deliberate style limited to some characters... The N64 probably wouldn't even have voice acting and would have gotten a way worse version of sounds.
@@bfkc111 considering how late they didn’t use the Dino language in DP’s development. They likely were not going to include it. I personally like the normal voice acting more. And an N64 game having voice acting regardless of its audio quality is still really impressive.
Yes, dinosaurs need to speak English, the language of the universe. It makes me all cranky and... flustered... inside, or something when I hear a non-real language, mocking my expectations of living room English. Serious trouble.
@@bfkc111 I would've accepted dino language if it only happened in the 15 first minutes of Fox's gameplay. But the whole intro with crystal should've been in freaking English, we're playing as her, she freaking understand the bloody language.
@@bfkc111 Atleast when J.R.R Tolkien made up a language, he atleast used the basis of real language to have it make sense and realistic. I suspect the one in Star Fox Adventures is pure gibberish. Even on SNES with Star Fox/Starwing they atleast didnt try to intend it being a language and more of a communicating sound like normal, distress and critical. Gibberish sounds basically
@@kejiri3593 It's a text-letter swap (similar to ROT13). I remember making a translator for fun back then when I was learning programming. starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Dino#Translation_Chart
@@KOTEBANAROT I like how DP Fox said “I’m the knight of the Lylat System” I was like curious about the word ‘knigh’ at least SF Adventure Fox said “I’m the lead pilot of the Lylat System” I hope if they fixed the game fully please don’t change Fox McCloud into Sabre. I like the concept of Fox in Dinosaur Planet.
@@ericxoring7105 around december 2000 to february 2001 the story was altered to be more star foxey, with most of the same in-game plot beats but instead of krystal and randorn finding the portal to sauria during their life as nomads on animus and responding to a call for help with krystal meeting sabre right then for the first time, general pepper sends them and fox mccloud to sauria to stop drakor, and randorn flew with the original star fox team with james mccloud. also sabre is just... gone
I appreciate that the tracks played at the same time. It's a comparison. If you wanted to go back and forth, then just load up videos separately of the cutscenes of Star Fox Adventures and just play the Dinosaur Planet prototype. I was very surprised at how close the voices were with each other, despite being re-recorded!
@@djyoshiman9448 This must be your first comparison video you've seen in your life then cause all the others do it better. Its common sense that you never overlap 2 different audio tracks, but maybe you lack common sense, I dont know 🤷♂️
It‘s largely the same, if not all the same, with some minor rearrangements. I think shoehorning it into the Star Fox franchise really watered it down because it’ll instead always be known as ‘that one different Star Fox game’. I like SFA and it’s a beautiful looking game, but I think Dinosaur Planet would’ve stood out as it’s own IP and could’ve been loved the way the rest of Rare’s N64 titles are. It also would’ve been a really impressive game for the N64 hardware.
@@NatsumiTakanawa I'm glad that it was turned into a Star Fox game. Because if it wasn't it likely would have hardly made sales because the game cube would have been released before it finished development. That and Star Fox Adventures had way more planned for it but after all of rare was bought by Microsoft due to Nintendo not buying out the rest the company they had to rush development. Even in the Adventures intro we can see areas of the game that never made it to the final build. It's super sad.
As soon as these great games touch the Gamecube -> instant trash Dinosaur Planet was way better, it’s a shame we got the dumpster fire that was Starfox Adventures instead.
SFA needed some crappy excuse that Dinosaurs would have their own language barriers but that’s pointless when everyone is an animal! Then they gave up early bothering with it in SFA anyway once the “translator” excuse came along lol.
I feel like the made up language logically makes sense, but the idea felt a bit clunky when executed. I mean, Zelda: Windwaker had language barriers in some pivotal cutscenes and they didn't seem weird to me.
@@princeapoopoo5787 the biggest problem was that how the heck does a Cerinian blue vixen know anything about the Dino language in the first place? Randorn may have learned about different worlds but he was not known in SFA at all. Krystal came looking for answers to the planets destruction on Dinosaur Planet. There is nothing to explain. With Randorn being a wizard, at least it would have made some sense if he was the one who taught her about some Dino texts because of certain reasons. Wizards are avid learners and educators so they don’t need too much explanation, we just assume. At least then, I would have found it more believable.
@@KetwunsGamingPad yeah, good point and a bit of a plothole and something I couldn't quite place before. think it would have made more sense and kept to her being from the planet, or at least made it clear that she began this mission weeks or months ago, etc. It's kind of a shame, because I thought it was interesting how, for once, the language barrier between alien races was actually addressed instead of handwaved. but, well, it didn't end up well huh
It's a cartoon language, you POS. The "real" voice acting and dialogue sounds like crap anyway. And it makes one wonder if you ever heard a N64 game... They all had something like this, even the few from Rare which had a couple of voicelines. They make this as an hommage to the N64, and it fits, as its a very unreal world, with unreal characters, so they use "strange" languages, in part. What you're saying is just dumb as crap, and inconsistent, in any possible way. "No, don't make it seem like charming fiction, pretend it is all AWESOME REALITY, of 20m from my living room. Also: don't make it like the things that are better and that I want it to be like...." Just too dumb to describe.
The graphical leap from N64 to Gamecube was just HUGE...
Damn. Nintendo/Rare really did just turn Krystal into a plot device instead of a fleshed out character.
lmao.
RARE made good N64 games. Shame this didnt come out. Since Star Fox Adventures , while an ok game. I just think this would have held up better if they made Dinosaur Planet
@@kejiri3593 I mean dinosaur planet ROM did leak a year or two back and it was about 90% complete you could beat the game I remember reading
I think they just ran out of time to finish the game. There are a lot more clues to it being a rush job than Krystal’s story being cut entirely. There is a strange mixture of both polish and jank throughout the game, sometimes even in the same scene. Shame we’ll never get to see all of the developer’s dreams brought to fruition.
Even to this day, Starfox Adventures still looks gorgeous.
the fact that it came out back in 2002 is just mind-blowing to me, Rareware were technological wizards back in the day.
That's the GameCube as a whole. Smash brosh, F-Zero, Super Mario Sunshine...
I remember thinking "wow I wonder when these graphics will become outdated" back in 2002. But they never became outdated.
@@Krullerized i mean, they kinda are now. Just not as much as one expects. They still look surprisingly passable.
Yeah. It's awesome
How different it would be if Miyamoto had said to put fox as a Cameo hum...maybe we would have " dinosaur planet featuring fox from star fox series.
It's really sad that we never got this game in it's original non-star fox vision, cause I think the dialogue is a lot better here than in adventures.
its crazy how 1 to 1 certain cutscenes are. impressive for the n64.
Whoever leaked this game, god bless your kind soul
Love Starfox Adventures, even after all this time it's still my second favorite videogame. I love the contrast in high graphic fidelity each version has for their respective hardware. Rare really did push themselves to make something special.
Thanks for watching
5:47 these cutscenes are literally the same outside of updated graphics. You can even see GCN Fox reaching for his sword the same way N64 Fox is, despite not having one.
Nice catch
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the animations were re-used, but touched up a little bit for the GC.
i really felt the game would have been a better game as Dinosaur planet
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Nah
It might have stood stronger on its own legs, then being part of an existing Nintendo IP.
Better maybe. But without the name starfox, probably forgotten with many forgotten N64 and GC titles. It would have never sold as many copies if sold as "dinosaur planet".
never realized Crystal is straight up Joanna Dark. I also hear Carrington
Same voice actress/DKC composer (Eveline Fischer).
I thought matey sounded like Sean Connery lol
Agh, I would’ve had the game better off without gibberish in the beginning, it kinda makes sense for Fox’s case, but not for us...
Considering how quickly Starfox Adventures came out after when Dinosaur Planet supposedly ceased development, it's amazing how good it looked for the time.
The blue furry is stacked on GC lol
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I think it's amazing that not much has changed (besides the graphics, of course) this game is simply gorgeous for the Nintendo 64 standard, the gameplay is very well done and the graphics are exceptional for the platform, RARE really managed to push the console to the limit here, maybe even more than they did with Conker and Jet Set Gemini.
It is a pity that RARE did not follow its original idea, this game could have become the game that would close the Nintendo 64 cycle with a golden key (similar to Majora Mask and Conker Bad Fur Day), it could have become an excellent classic, but in the end it just became a average Star Fox game for the Game Cube that nobody cares about.
PS: Star Fox Adventures is a good game, it just isn't a good Star Fox game.
As a kid star fox adventures was the only star fox game I ever played. I thought every other star fox game was incredibly boring by comparison. Adventures had fox in an actual playable form comparable to his appearances in Smash 64 and Melee. Then when I played starfox 64, I was just like, okay, when are we gonna stop flying? And I couldn't believe that was the entire game.
@@sameash3153 Star Fox Adventures is a good game, it just isn't a good Star Fox game.
@@MoonSarito saddly Rareware was under Nintendo's control. So Miyamoto decided this game will change into a Starfox game. We can see in this late N64 built that the beta was made up after the Nintendo's decision. ( Fox character model and not Sabre anymore. ) The game had already changed. It would be amazing to get on an earlier built of the game to see the major differences with Sabre in it!
@@sameash3153 LOL
@@lionec226 Atleast now they work for Microsoft. So there is that. Sucks that they couldnt do what they wanted with Dinosaur Planet :(
N64 version feels grittier,
When you think about it, we only got the "remastered for the new generation" version.
They changed alot. I feel like the game would be better if he wasnt in there and it was Krystal's game.
I got to wonder, Could Star fox adventures be modded to become DinoSaur Plannet HD? Fox does resemble Saber
You win. This is my favourite comment. I hope that happens.
Both introduced as Fox McCloud, so I don't see why not. This would be dope.
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Crystal's original design is so much better
Agreed
They probably needed to change it to fit in a Star Fox game. But i wish they stuck to Dinosaur planet
And Eveline Fisher's voice acting. Perfect Dark is my favourite game of all time, so hearing Joanna's voice is cool too, haha. But I really don't care for the dino language in the slightest
4:22 “KO King EarthWalker shot its game... he cause keyasasas...”
i never could figure out what that character was talking about lol
The original is ironically much more cohesive and interesting, had it been released and finished lol
I agree. Only thing I like more in the final version is Krystal's design. The original baby look is cute but that tribal look is perfect for me.
@@realamericannegro977 SFA Krystal does have a bit of a Dejah Thoris aesthetic going for her, doesn't she? I personally prefer her cuter-looking DP design. Simple, but very expressive and downright adorable.
6:36
Even Fox's dialogues are almost the same with the same voiceclip, the decision to move the game to the Game Cube must have come very late in development. (One thing I noticed is that unlike Crystal, Fox doesn't have facial expressions, it could be that they put him at the last minute too).
This Build is very complete for a beta, but I still wonder if there is any build with Saber (the original fox of the game) playable out there, it's a shame that Miyamoto turned this game into a Star Fox, if he had left with the original idea of rare for the Nintendo 64 without a doubt would become a classic,
it's weird but I had more fun playing this beta than Star Fox Adventures.
Sabre is still in the game. In fact, despite the fact that they put Fox model in, it's still Sabre, mage Randorn's son and Krystal's childhood friend. But the model is still there, theres a trick to turn it back on.
Fun fact Rare mistakenly took any of Shigiru's suggestions for the game as orders.
Thus we ended up with adventures turning out like it did
for reference, DP began development around July 1997. Also, Sabre is a wolf. As far as anyone can tell, this is one of the first builds of the game to have Fox.
@@ImmaLittlePip Thats such a shame, this would have been ten times better if it just was Dinosaur Planet
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At least we got Krystal in star fox and star fox assault as a result
Assault is a pretty good star fox game
N64 Scales: "Let's just say we had a nice little chat." *Sips imaginary tea*
*Backhands cartoon vixen* "Ha ha, nice try." *Siiiiiiiiip*
Gamecube Scales: "LEE DUNE SOON TAVOOK...GENERAL SCALES!!!" *Chucks endowed vixen off of ship*
i was waiting for a comparison video! nice stuff!
I really enjoyed Starfox's adventures but what bums me out is the fact that Krystal was put into a crystal and is left dormant for the rest of the game after the prologue. It felt very misleading on the game cover... you thought she would play a bigger role or be one of fox's sidekicks... But nope... Just a sex icon for fox and a damsel in distress for the player.
If they had given fox a proper introduction with Krystal... Had let both Fox and Krystal be playable with their own missions to complete or change the male fox that looks like fox mcloud (which started this whole thing.) I think this game would have be stellar... minus the flying to a different planet,
At least krystal is apart of the star fox universe now.
@@drew2031 And how is that working out right now?
@@Careidina342 ....ok touche but still.
@@drew2031 it's a ray of light when they put her in the star fox series...however krystal did not play a significant role in them... I think nintendo was trying to bury her... seeing that the last two-star fox games seemed to be a remastered and a remake of star fox 64...
the re-mastered one could have brought her in... but they didn't it seemed.
Think that was the plan, but jump to new platform and Fox addition significantly changed things. Krystal was the most featured in old promotional art for the game on N64. I think you were supposed to jump between characters on your journey. Yea, found it on Unseen 64, " According to many, in the porting Rare dropped some of the most interesting features, so we may never know if the Nintendo 64 version was better. Certainly much has been changed in the porting process: the main character, Saber, became Fox Mc Cloud, Crystal’s role was heavily cut (she should have been a fully playable character) "
I like how in some spots you could have sworn it is a remaster, in others, you can tell that they're different games. Even in the same scene haha. Adventures kind of confused me with the Cloudrunner baby on Scales' ship. I always thought it was a "wow he's mean he kidnaps little babies", but in Planet it's made more clear.
Adventures would always be a soft spot to me and I still adore some aspects like the OST and graphics to bits. But I feel like I would have loved the original just as much. Would kill for a remake that blends the two games (basically playable Krystal)
@@DahniSmith wow good call on the connection between the princess and tricky!
i definitely feel like it might have been because of the spellstones, what with the trope of royalty being "endowed" with greatness, and the fact that some of that does bleed into the final product. If I recall correctly, the Earthwalker and Cloudrunner families were both instrumental in completing the game. It's pretty baffling why they didn't keep the baby Cloudrunner as a princess in the end because of that tbh
Even as someone who has never play Star Fox adventure, I find this very fascinating.
I personally feel that Nintendo should remake Adventures, but take a lot of the elements from Dinosaur Planet. Instead of Krystal just being a damsel in distress, have her partner up with Fox to save the planet. Have Tricky and Kyte interact with each as rivals and begrudging friends. And give everyone unique abilities that help them solve different tasks; Fox with his blaster and advanced technology to deal with physical obstructions, Krystal with her staff and magic to deal with magical obstructions. And give Tricky and Kyte unique abilities as well. I honestly think Nintendo has the foundation to make a great StarFox game with an incredible story here.
I miss having Star Fox Adventures.
Thanks for doing this comparison!
I loved starfox adventures but i think dinosaur planet was a game advanced for its generation
Starfox Adventures is still kind of advanced for the Gamecube. Fox and Krystal have fur effects, for example
@@jerryalexis576 Rare was always ahead of its generation! in supernintendo they did the awesome Donkey Kong country
It must hurt but the n64 came in a troubled time. Everyone imagined these kind of games on it but the capacity just wasnt enough and the ram was too small, with higher resoluted textures the cpu wasnt enough. it came had it 5 titles that could not be created on the psx and it just stayed alive because of its outstanding design. You see how the machine strugles to push those few polygons and you see how the next gen graphic carts just went beserk on the old machine. Light effects, look at the Fur and details like teeth, chip supported "motion effects" on the sail and tail. Shine effects on eyeballs and skin. The psx could run every kind of game because of the medium that cd was. Players had to bare the steps down on the graphical side but you still could release a version of every thinkable game on the machine until the ps2 took the torch. The N64 could be seen as a prototype of a technique that evolved so fast that it just wasnt strong enough by 97 anymore, first becausae of the medium second because of the hardware and a horrible sound chip. (sold my psx to have zelda and missed enemies on the map, ended up playing tony hawk and roll cage, driver and metal gear on a borrowed playstation)
Graphically and the characters' designs are way better on the GC, but the story and level design look thousands of times better on the N64. It's a shame we ended up with a butchered version.
You couldn't say anything bad on the GC comparison, so you decided to comment on something that's not shown... Classy.
The story and level design are the same tho?
The story is definitely not the same. Krazoa spirits are never mentioned on Dinosaur Planet, and in Star Fox Adventure they are a major plot point. Also, Krystal is a major character in DP instead of just the "girl you need to rescue". Swapping between the two chars would have been amazing. But the game turned out as it did, because they were really rushed by the companies, because at the time Rare was being bought by Microsoft and they were asked to rush the game. Proof of this is that Rare announced that they have been bought by Microsoft literally 1 day after Star Fox Adventures' release date.
@@TheAcientKat thx for the info 🙌
I really love Fox' facial expressions in Adventures. I'm glad they put it on GC.
the water in SFA still looks so good
8:11 this looks 2 generations apart haha
I mean compare RE2 on N64 to RE:Zero or REmake, or RE4. lol
Or a typically good looking N64 game like Perfect Dark which took full advantage of the Expansion pak, introduced the first ever reloading animations in any FPS, etc., vs. an early GameCube title like Metroid Prime. GameCube was an obscene jump forward. lmfao
Shit, just look at a game like Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell running in 480p on GCN or Xbox and even try fathoming that game on even a PS2. LOL
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli N64 really had ABSOLUTLY no chances compared to gamecube. Also with expansionpack. I mean perfekt dark... really?
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli I mean star fox SNES to starfox 64 is an even bigger leap if you put them side by side
The Warpstone awakening cutscene is closer to the cutscene with Sabre and Rocky in the prototype.
I realized that after. Oops! Thanks for the tip
@@GAkers What's weird is that Rocky was the one that became the WarpStone, but Rubble's function of transporting you to Ice Mountain to get Tricky was also kept.
im glad we found this
N64: "Polygons were a mistake."
Gamecube: "My power is only limited by predetermined lifecycle."
LOL that overlapping audio.
The leap from N64 to GameCube is astounding. ALMOST as impressive as going from SNES to N64
I got to be honest, Dinosaur Planet could have been a promising Nintendo 64 game if it wasn't 'remastered' as Stairfax Temperatures for the Nintendo Gamecube.
I’d love to play a Remake or Remastered version of this Star Fox game on the Switch in the future one of these days, especially when this unreleasedN64 title: Dinosaur Planet which later became Star Fox Adventures on the GameCube is the last Nintendo exclusive title to ever be made by Rare before Microsoft bought out the company in 2002 and then later put Rare through it’s own dark age in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s with changing the third Banjo-Kazooie title from a 3D platformer to a Vehicular Construction game, and Kinect Sports camera games. I mean sure Rare has now been living in a revival era since the Killer Instinct Seasonal Reboot, and they may have one new original title that is Sea of Thieves these days, and the Everwild title now currently in the works these days too of course. But the point is, I’d honestly would love to play this Zelda inspired Star Fox game a.k.a. Rare’s last Nintendo exclusive title before they became an Xbox owned game company since 2002, and I honestly wouldn’t mind at all if a remake or remaster of Star Fox Adventures on the Switch was made by a different game developer whether it be new or popular by experience one of these days too.
So on the n64 version he was still called fox Mclaud I’m so confused
5:10 OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! THaT CwrEPy
It’s weird how the best looking GameCube game was originally a n64 game
The intro cutscenes in this video
Dinosaur Planet:
Riveting start to what promises to be an amazing adventure with fleshed- out characters.
Starfox Adventures:
BLAVOO DEPROSTO GREPTMU BDLEISU AKUM DELSO GENERAL SCALES
haha!
god whose idea was it to incorporate "Dino language"? It's utterly pointless and the fact that they occasionally speak english sometimes makes it even more stupid.
Bilingual persons should be a new concept for you then...
@@zelda330 I’m bilingual 😂
I understand why starfox adventure ended up looking SO good: they didn't have anything to do but to focus on the graphics. Game was 95% done, only thing was to update the graphics, and they had plenty of time do so effectively since they knew exactly what models they wanted and how they fell in place with each other.
I want to see the original N64 version done with Gamecube Graphics
Araah!
Miyamoto was on the right track for incorporating the Star Fox universe into it.
How it turned out though...so anyways, how about that weather, huh?
Really though, a good idea but I'm not sure who gets the blame for the overall execution and direction of the concept.
6:37 DUEL SPEAK!!!
Amazin graphics for n64
Poor one out for my homie Rubble, who got turned into fuckin Shrek in Star Fox Adventures
Not Shrek, more like Fat Bastard
Interesting comparison. To be honest, this doesn't show a major difference between Dinosaur Planet and Star Fox Adventures, because Fox was already put in. An even earlier build without Fox would probably tell us even more about how Dinosaur Planet would have turned out.
Dinosaur planet n64 looks good but the GameCube had it beat.
And birds can fly
Eh its not terrible but it would have hold up better if they went with Dinosaur Planet, it looked like a cool game.
Wow, lmao guess someone beat me to it.
This needs a cleaned up HD port to Switch. Is it a "Star Fox" game? Not really, but it is a good game and holds up well. It would likely do really well/better on the Switch.
I stop 6:18 because I’m busy
THICC Krystal > Skimpy Krystal
Nintendo in those days was working to improve their games, today they would have released the Prototype of the Planet of the Dinosaurs in HD
Ok hater
@@alos6378 No, he's right. Fanboy
The only issue I had with the original... was that they didn't have the different language in it. I thought it was unique.
I think they simply didn't do it, because the original story writers wanted a move cohesive and understandable narrative for dinosaur planet, and of course not really use any SC-FI elements, so there wouldn't need to be a translator device.
And also, even if they wanted to do, it would practically be impossible to do on the N64 because of cartridge limitations on storing multiple voice lines for an english and dino language version on just one single cutscene. The GameCube can avoid this easily because it uses 1.5 GB mini discs that can store way more stuff.
n64 for ever.
Fan theory: They introduced the alien language because Rare was pissed off at Nintendo asking them to change parts of the script.
Nintendo stay sh*tying on their unique ideas. Conker and now this. Miyamoto sabatoged this game.
How did crystal go to a normal cute cartoon animal to the furry bait she is now
I always found it disappointing that you play as Krystal for only like 10 minutes. I kind of wish they fleshed out her character/backstory more or make you play as her for half of the game and the other half you play as fox.
Incrivelmente bonito mas duas versões
é engraçado para mim como eles são semelhantes
I think the N64 voice acting is way superior, specially considering that the CG has that lame dinosaur language, many might like it, but the fact that sometimes they use english words like Shrine or General Scales, it just ruins it for me.
It was obviously placeholder by developers on the N64... The dinosaur language is a deliberate style limited to some characters... The N64 probably wouldn't even have voice acting and would have gotten a way worse version of sounds.
@@bfkc111 considering how late they didn’t use the Dino language in DP’s development. They likely were not going to include it. I personally like the normal voice acting more. And an N64 game having voice acting regardless of its audio quality is still really impressive.
Classic Krystals a bit thicc 💀💀
Yikes little boy, yikes
The dinosaur language in the GCN pretty much ruined the intro for me especially when they say English words in the middle of sentences.
Yes, dinosaurs need to speak English, the language of the universe. It makes me all cranky and... flustered... inside, or something when I hear a non-real language, mocking my expectations of living room English. Serious trouble.
@@bfkc111 I would've accepted dino language if it only happened in the 15 first minutes of Fox's gameplay. But the whole intro with crystal should've been in freaking English, we're playing as her, she freaking understand the bloody language.
KRAZOA PALACE!!!
@@bfkc111 Atleast when J.R.R Tolkien made up a language, he atleast used the basis of real language to have it make sense and realistic. I suspect the one in Star Fox Adventures is pure gibberish. Even on SNES with Star Fox/Starwing they atleast didnt try to intend it being a language and more of a communicating sound like normal, distress and critical. Gibberish sounds basically
@@kejiri3593 It's a text-letter swap (similar to ROT13). I remember making a translator for fun back then when I was learning programming. starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Dino#Translation_Chart
It almost seems like SF adventure is like a Dinosaur Planet remastered.
Ive played them both. It really, really isnt. There are similarities but its way more different that similar.
@@KOTEBANAROT I like how DP Fox said “I’m the knight of the Lylat System” I was like curious about the word ‘knigh’ at least SF Adventure Fox said “I’m the lead pilot of the Lylat System” I hope if they fixed the game fully please don’t change Fox McCloud into Sabre. I like the concept of Fox in Dinosaur Planet.
@@ericxoring7105 without most of Sabre's voice lines, all they can do is restore the hybrid story
@@lepidotos hybrid story like what?
@@ericxoring7105 around december 2000 to february 2001 the story was altered to be more star foxey, with most of the same in-game plot beats but instead of krystal and randorn finding the portal to sauria during their life as nomads on animus and responding to a call for help with krystal meeting sabre right then for the first time, general pepper sends them and fox mccloud to sauria to stop drakor, and randorn flew with the original star fox team with james mccloud. also sabre is just... gone
It would have been better as Dinosaur Planet.
Great the N64 version.
Bruuhh you can't just have both audio tracks play at the same time, turn off one side while the other is playing, its a mess otherwise.
Thanks for the tip
I appreciate that the tracks played at the same time. It's a comparison. If you wanted to go back and forth, then just load up videos separately of the cutscenes of Star Fox Adventures and just play the Dinosaur Planet prototype. I was very surprised at how close the voices were with each other, despite being re-recorded!
@@djyoshiman9448
This must be your first comparison video you've seen in your life then cause all the others do it better. Its common sense that you never overlap 2 different audio tracks, but maybe you lack common sense, I dont know 🤷♂️
@@SaItyToad00 Eh, it works in this sense. 🤷 Comparing the timing here makes more sense when you overlap it than if you play one after the other.
Dinosaur planet is so much better than star fox adventures
Good for its time. But not better
It‘s largely the same, if not all the same, with some minor rearrangements. I think shoehorning it into the Star Fox franchise really watered it down because it’ll instead always be known as ‘that one different Star Fox game’. I like SFA and it’s a beautiful looking game, but I think Dinosaur Planet would’ve stood out as it’s own IP and could’ve been loved the way the rest of Rare’s N64 titles are. It also would’ve been a really impressive game for the N64 hardware.
ehhh they look the same
@@NatsumiTakanawa I'm glad that it was turned into a Star Fox game. Because if it wasn't it likely would have hardly made sales because the game cube would have been released before it finished development. That and Star Fox Adventures had way more planned for it but after all of rare was bought by Microsoft due to Nintendo not buying out the rest the company they had to rush development. Even in the Adventures intro we can see areas of the game that never made it to the final build. It's super sad.
not true, star fox adventures is like an upgraded version with better graphics, gameplay and other enhancements, so star fox is better
.... that frame rate
I can't believe how far along it ways. Starfox is basically identical!! Very impressive
slowly loosing faith in Nintendo. Rareware made the N64, the massive library of games they did for that system, only for Nintendo to say "Fuck you."
So what, it'll take 15 years for you to do a next step on it. Lololol!
@@bfkc111 I'm not gonna live that long
@@JBlade187 Planning zombie attack, I see.
@@bfkc111 what?
Atleast look on the bright side. RARE left for Microsoft. So i doubt they would be forced to make whatever Microsoft wanted
both game look like they are made in 1992
It's so stupid that Fox is in this game
Thank Miyamoto for that stupid idea
As soon as these great games touch the Gamecube -> instant trash
Dinosaur Planet was way better, it’s a shame we got the dumpster fire that was Starfox Adventures instead.
Pure accident. There is a limited number of how cutscenes can look, and this is clearly one of 'em.
looks trillion times better on the gamecube but the made up language is stupid
SFA needed some crappy excuse that Dinosaurs would have their own language barriers but that’s pointless when everyone is an animal! Then they gave up early bothering with it in SFA anyway once the “translator” excuse came along lol.
I feel like the made up language logically makes sense, but the idea felt a bit clunky when executed. I mean, Zelda: Windwaker had language barriers in some pivotal cutscenes and they didn't seem weird to me.
@@princeapoopoo5787 the biggest problem was that how the heck does a Cerinian blue vixen know anything about the Dino language in the first place? Randorn may have learned about different worlds but he was not known in SFA at all. Krystal came looking for answers to the planets destruction on Dinosaur Planet. There is nothing to explain. With Randorn being a wizard, at least it would have made some sense if he was the one who taught her about some Dino texts because of certain reasons. Wizards are avid learners and educators so they don’t need too much explanation, we just assume. At least then, I would have found it more believable.
@@KetwunsGamingPad yeah, good point and a bit of a plothole and something I couldn't quite place before. think it would have made more sense and kept to her being from the planet, or at least made it clear that she began this mission weeks or months ago, etc. It's kind of a shame, because I thought it was interesting how, for once, the language barrier between alien races was actually addressed instead of handwaved. but, well, it didn't end up well huh
It's a cartoon language, you POS. The "real" voice acting and dialogue sounds like crap anyway. And it makes one wonder if you ever heard a N64 game... They all had something like this, even the few from Rare which had a couple of voicelines. They make this as an hommage to the N64, and it fits, as its a very unreal world, with unreal characters, so they use "strange" languages, in part.
What you're saying is just dumb as crap, and inconsistent, in any possible way. "No, don't make it seem like charming fiction, pretend it is all AWESOME REALITY, of 20m from my living room. Also: don't make it like the things that are better and that I want it to be like...." Just too dumb to describe.