When I was deciding between the Ruger Marks, S&W Victory and the 22/45 I chose the Browning Buckmark due to the more ergonomic angle of the Browning’s grip. I can’t be I’ve no one else has complained about it before in other reviews. The Buckmark just felt better in my hand, it has a more natural angle when aiming it. I highly recommend the Buckmark!
+Ed Stallion I just got my S&W with a 5 inch barrel for 229 out the door. Couldn't pass it up as i've been looking for a good .22 for awhile now that isnt 400 fucking dollars like the M&P, and Ruger. I love it so far.
One of the better home made video's as you were able to show some technical aspects of real life differences. I would be very interested to see your " HOW TO VIDEO" once you reduce the trigger pulls on your pistols. I used to own a Browning Challenger, which my father sold, when I moved out many, many moons ago. I loved that pistol, and have been planning on buying a Buckmark soon. But all the new laws in MD last year, has many of us NOT purchasing as protests, on principle, with all the new restrictions and hoops to jump through. NOW, it will cost me over $100 just to be ABLE to purchase a hand gun, which for the last 39 years cost me nothing, except the price of the weapon. Anyways, :-) thanks for the video, and look forward to your next one.
Thanks for putting some light on your video. These two are so equally good, I may be well advised to purchase both to try out. Really liked the trigger closeup
Don't waste your money on the S & W, buy more ammo :-). I have owned at least 5 Browning's, and the fit & finish was perfect on all of them. You can even read in these short comments list, 2 ppl unhappy with the Smith. It SHOULD be a nice little plinker, but, I have probably read over 50 bad reports here and there about the gun. This is the ONLY S & W I have ever read those kind of comments about. Don't waste your time IMHO that is :-).
This is a very useful video. Well spoken and informative. I would suggest next time you move the camera farther away from the table. But other than that: great!
I had both of these in front of me today, trying to decide which one to get. I wound up getting the Smith, it was 259, the buckmark was 359, so for a hundred bucks difference, I went for the Smith (both were used, tho slightly) Actually, get this, it was my wife that wanted one. She likes to shoot too, but it's not exactly cheap to shoot my 45, though these days it's not cheap to shoot a 22lr either, but more so than a 45.
Interesting video, thanks! It would have been nice to see the accuracy of each with different loads. S&W 22A's can be had on GunBroker for under $200 now.
S&W stopped selling the 22A in 2015. Accuracy videos especially when comparing different types of ammunition can be really drawn out for the person making the video and I do not have the time or patience to do that type of video. I still highly recommend this gun and the the Browning. Both easy to shoot and accurate.
,,,bought the S&W 22A and was very disappointed in the quality & workmanship. The rear sight was square with sharp edges that extended about 3/32's on either side of the ramp,, had to file it down so as not to cut my thumb when cocking it and the safety had a sharp burr that also had to be filed down. The grip screws were constantly coming lose so I used some blue lock-tight on them and had to adjust the ears on one magazine so it would feed properly,,, other than that it's a fun gun and I like the way feels,,, oh yea, I had to white dot the sights so I could get them on target quicker...
I had both guns. I now am a Buckmark fan. I shoot steel challenge and my times speak for them self. I had the 22A for two years, I got the Buckmark and my time the first time I used it in a match was better than my best time with my smith. The only problem I have with the Buckmark is that after the match like every gun I own I went to break it down and I snapped my allen wrench on the trigger screw. All of my other Buckmarks except this one came apart no problem. Here is my issue I called browning about this week old gun and they tell me you don't break it down to clean it. I think to my self am I sure I called the right number? Every gun I own gets broke down and cleaned after shooting, believe me the day I don't have to clean a gun is the day I sell all my others and invest in a company, why would browning tell me not to break it down and clean it.
I can understand Browning saying you don't break it down for cleaning. Should be able to get it cleaned well, even without removing the slide. But by removing the slide you can get to all needed, and you should not need to remove the barrel. I only remove the slide maybe every 5th cleaning. I can get it 90% clean with the slide on, and when I remove the slide I get the remaining 10%.
paintballhallic I have a buckmark hunter and like you I felt that I had to break it down after every shoot. I don't do that with the Buckmark anymore. I use a bore snake to clean the barrel and a brush with a patch to clean up the ramp and around the outside of the camber and round the face where the firing pin and extractor are. I now only break it down every 400 - 500 rounds. I think breaking it down and loosening the screws will only cause problems as far as how tight it fits together. I only remove the back screw behind the rear sight and leave the rail and the barrel attached when I break it down. I remove the slide and clean it out or put it in my sonic tank and then soak it in gun oil after the cleaning.
Agreed that I do not remove the barrel, until the gun has many hundreds of rounds through it. I use a bore snake and clean from chamber to muzzle, then take a brush and swabs to clean the breach face and slide. I do add a few drops of oil on the slide friction points. I think many people over tighten the slide hold down screws. There is really no force on them and they need to only be snug, not tight. I always carry the allen wrench (hex key) with me, in case they loosen, but that has never happened.
Rob, I just bought the Buckmark UDX Plus. At page 9 the owner's manual states, "DO NOT DRY FIRE THE BUCK MARK PISTOL. DRY FIRING MAY DAMAGE THE FIREARM COMPONENTS, POSSIBLY RENDERING THE FIREARM INOPERABLE." Do you still advise that the Buckmark may be dry fired?
You definitely do not wanna dry fire these guns. The striker makes contact with the breach. Enough dry during will degrade the firing pin and cause misfires.
respect my 22A A lot VERY accurate hard to miss my target
When I was deciding between the Ruger Marks, S&W Victory and the 22/45 I chose the Browning Buckmark due to the more ergonomic angle of the Browning’s grip. I can’t be I’ve no one else has complained about it before in other reviews. The Buckmark just felt better in my hand, it has a more natural angle when aiming it. I highly recommend the Buckmark!
Thank you so very much for doing the comparison. As a result of watching your video, I went ahead and ordered the S&W .
+Ed Stallion I just got my S&W with a 5 inch barrel for 229 out the door. Couldn't pass it up as i've been looking for a good .22 for awhile now that isnt 400 fucking dollars like the M&P, and Ruger. I love it so far.
One of the better home made video's as you were able to show some technical aspects of real life differences. I would be very interested to see your " HOW TO VIDEO" once you reduce the trigger pulls on your pistols. I used to own a Browning Challenger, which my father sold, when I moved out many, many moons ago. I loved that pistol, and have been planning on buying a Buckmark soon. But all the new laws in MD last year, has many of us NOT purchasing as protests, on principle, with all the new restrictions and hoops to jump through. NOW, it will cost me over $100 just to be ABLE to purchase a hand gun, which for the last 39 years cost me nothing, except the price of the weapon. Anyways, :-) thanks for the video, and look forward to your next one.
great video. I really like how you measured and showed the length of pull
I have both and with optics, they shoot as well as I can see. But for just fun plinking - I am partial to my 1911 Colt (Walther) Gold Cup. Cheers
Thanks for putting some light on your video. These two are so equally good, I may be well advised to purchase both to try out. Really liked the trigger closeup
Don't waste your money on the S & W, buy more ammo :-). I have owned at least 5 Browning's, and the fit & finish was perfect on all of them. You can even read in these short comments list, 2 ppl unhappy with the Smith. It SHOULD be a nice little plinker, but, I have probably read over 50 bad reports here and there about the gun. This is the ONLY S & W I have ever read those kind of comments about. Don't waste your time IMHO that is :-).
Just bought a used S/W 22 a very good gun. I have a Ruger Mark two very good gun as well even though I am a Ruger fan both are good guns.
There are different variations of the Buckmark that have a variety of sights and rails.
On Buckmark, you can flip the trigger spring around for free and get about 1/2 the pull weight.
I have that exact same buckmark. I love it!
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I have a video showing how to reduce the trigger pull weight, over-travel, and take up.
This is a very useful video. Well spoken and informative. I would suggest next time you move the camera farther away from the table. But other than that: great!
I had both of these in front of me today, trying to decide which one to get. I wound up getting the Smith, it was 259, the buckmark was 359, so for a hundred bucks difference, I went for the Smith (both were used, tho slightly) Actually, get this, it was my wife that wanted one. She likes to shoot too, but it's not exactly cheap to shoot my 45, though these days it's not cheap to shoot a 22lr either, but more so than a 45.
the one drawback to the smith is easily remedied, I don't care for the black sights.
Interesting video, thanks! It would have been nice to see the accuracy of each with different loads. S&W 22A's can be had on GunBroker for under $200 now.
S&W stopped selling the 22A in 2015. Accuracy videos especially when comparing different types of ammunition can be really drawn out for the person making the video and I do not have the time or patience to do that type of video. I still highly recommend this gun and the the Browning. Both easy to shoot and accurate.
,,,bought the S&W 22A and was very disappointed in the quality & workmanship. The rear sight was square with sharp edges that extended about 3/32's on either side of the ramp,, had to file it down so as not to cut my thumb when cocking it and the safety had a sharp burr that also had to be filed down. The grip screws were constantly coming lose so I used some blue lock-tight on them and had to adjust the ears on one magazine so it would feed properly,,, other than that it's a fun gun and I like the way feels,,, oh yea, I had to white dot the sights so I could get them on target quicker...
Because they are match sights you moron
I have a buck mark with a 7.25 inch barrel that has a full length rail.
I like my mark 4 hunter.
I had both guns. I now am a Buckmark fan. I shoot steel challenge and my times speak for them self. I had the 22A for two years, I got the Buckmark and my time the first time I used it in a match was better than my best time with my smith. The only problem I have with the Buckmark is that after the match like every gun I own I went to break it down and I snapped my allen wrench on the trigger screw. All of my other Buckmarks except this one came apart no problem. Here is my issue I called browning about this week old gun and they tell me you don't break it down to clean it. I think to my self am I sure I called the right number? Every gun I own gets broke down and cleaned after shooting, believe me the day I don't have to clean a gun is the day I sell all my others and invest in a company, why would browning tell me not to break it down and clean it.
I can understand Browning saying you don't break it down for cleaning. Should be able to get it cleaned well, even without removing the slide. But by removing the slide you can get to all needed, and you should not need to remove the barrel. I only remove the slide maybe every 5th cleaning. I can get it 90% clean with the slide on, and when I remove the slide I get the remaining 10%.
Im not going to run my bore brush the posit way down the barrel and risk hitting the extractor or pushing all the gunk back at the firing pin
paintballhallic I have a buckmark hunter and like you I felt that I had to break it down after every shoot. I don't do that with the Buckmark anymore. I use a bore snake to clean the barrel and a brush with a patch to clean up the ramp and around the outside of the camber and round the face where the firing pin and extractor are. I now only break it down every 400 - 500 rounds. I think breaking it down and loosening the screws will only cause problems as far as how tight it fits together. I only remove the back screw behind the rear sight and leave the rail and the barrel attached when I break it down. I remove the slide and clean it out or put it in my sonic tank and then soak it in gun oil after the cleaning.
Agreed that I do not remove the barrel, until the gun has many hundreds of rounds through it. I use a bore snake and clean from chamber to muzzle, then take a brush and swabs to clean the breach face and slide. I do add a few drops of oil on the slide friction points. I think many people over tighten the slide hold down screws. There is really no force on them and they need to only be snug, not tight. I always carry the allen wrench (hex key) with me, in case they loosen, but that has never happened.
+paintballhallic reading your post you called browning and told you what about your problem thanks jamie
Love my 22a
Nice pick up Rob!
Good review.
Rob, I just bought the Buckmark UDX Plus. At page 9 the owner's manual states, "DO NOT DRY FIRE THE BUCK MARK PISTOL. DRY FIRING MAY DAMAGE THE FIREARM COMPONENTS, POSSIBLY RENDERING THE FIREARM INOPERABLE." Do you still advise that the Buckmark may be dry fired?
You definitely do not wanna dry fire these guns. The striker makes contact with the breach. Enough dry during will degrade the firing pin and cause misfires.
S&W Basically copied the Buckmark with some changes...lol. introduction early 1980's...there's a reason there still being made...there great pistols.
I goint to buy the Smith and Wesson
Both great.
oh okay, reshoot-repost.
You get my messages from the other posting?
Yes I got both messages. I deleted the first video as I left out some information. Thanks for your comments.
Make this real quick? It's a 19 minute video that is by far real quick
Browning is way better . I had a 22a and Imo it was junk . Smith dropped it and came out with the Victory .
I have the same opinion, mine will not cycle bulk ammo for the life of me. It will only run reliable with high velocity
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22a is probably the worst 21lr handgun I've ever owned. Will not cycle unless it's fed high velocity ammo. 👎👎