One Pair of Eyes - Georgia Brown - Who are the Cockneys Now BBC 1968
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- I love documentaries about London it's where I am from and know best and this one is a beauty about the Jewish East End of London -.One Pair of Eyes............
Episode: Georgia Brown: Who are the Cockneys Now ?
Broadcast: August 17th 1968 singer and actress Georgia Brown revisits her old childhood home in Whitechapel, East London
and notes the fading presence of the Jewish immigrant community.
Brown discusses the recent change in the area's increasingly diverse population and ponders the question, "Who are the
cockneys now?"
Presented by Georgia Brown
Participants: Lionel Bart - Wolf Mankowitz,- Vidal Sassoon
One Pair of Eyes was a BBC series of Programmes offering individuals a platform to discuss issues close to their heart. - Zábava
Georgia comes across as a lovely, spirited and intelligent woman. I wish she was still around.
Me too. Then you could see the East end today. Less than a thousand jews left, three synagogues left.
Mini Bangladesh now. I bet she'd be so happy. Lol
They were all for the foreigners flooding in.
If this was filmed in 1968, this was the very last years of Black Lion Yard (that Georgia walks down) and the original Old Montague Street - both demolished within 6 or 7 years of this film. What little was left of the Jewish community was still managing to hang on into the 1960s, but by the 1970s this quickly started to vanish as those that could migrated to the suburbs. As Georgia said in this charming film, the east end is alive but continues to ebb and flow which is what it has done to this day. We can all look back on this with rose tinted glasses but some of the housing that was knocked down would have fallen down if it wasn't cleared away - I just think that most of what was put back in its place was so brutal, at the same time it ripped the heart out of the place. RIP both Lionel and Georgia, it is the beauty of You Tube today that films of this type can be protected and shown to new generations. Without it, these old places as they once were would be confined completely to history and forgotten as the oldies sadly pass away.
Georgia was a magnificent person AND artist. She died way too young. All who knew her were thrilled by her life force. I miss her very much
Agree! Talking about her just the other day.... My idea of perfect radio: Benny Green playing Georgia Brown.
1992
Watched your recent documentary on the East End. Very interesting.
@@mauricezeegen Benny Green! How I miss hearing him!
@@James_RC Yes, what a wonderful voice he had. What a great documentary, loved it.
I'm Danish, and I haven't got a clue what this is about. But I enjoyed it.
You will find out, Denmark too has an influx of culturally hostile migrants
They say Cockneys are the true or “native” Londoners.
Honestly it’s not difficult. It’s about multi-cultural communities. Listen and learn. Georgia Brown (great actress) and Lionel Bart (great composer of Oliver! the musical, plus some great pop songs and film scores). They are going down memory lane and talking about being Jewish in London’s east end. Really not difficult - what are you finding hard to understand
Oi Oi savaloy!
My Grandmother was a east end jew . My mother was born in Whitechapel hospital. They moved to wales after my grandfather died . My gran died 20 years ago . My old mother still going at 83 years old & she still says with pride she a cockney of immigrant decent. I'm proud of my family roots . This is a great video & the lady is beautiful in every way .
at 11.00 she talks about the front room being the posh room . I remember we had the same {like most families)
It was used for visitors and we weren't allowed in it. It always had a posh smell about it .We still call the living room 'The front room' 70 years on.
Beautiful London The way it was. What the bloody hell happened. What a dreadful disaster for all of us
How on earth can you consider the above "beautiful"? By 1968, the rot had well and truly started.
This was a great documentary. I was born in East London. It reminds me of the London of my childhood.
I’m not Jewish myself, but I respect them. They work hard and have strong community values. I’ve never felt unsafe while walking in a Jewish neighbourhood. Good people.
I'm from the east end, I used to work between whitechapel and petticoat lane. I don't even live in England no more. Great film.
i from the east end born in forest gate hospital,used to work petticoat market,
and brick lane worked for the fishers joe fisher gavin fisher also walthamstow,
market great places to work do miss those days.
She had beautiful eyes..
Georgia was a lovely special lady with great insight
I would like to see sweet Georgia Brown go visiting some of the jolly old Mosque's around the East End as a Jew and see what sort of welcome she gets.
She was a great talent and very beautiful, R.I.P Georgia x
you legend! Im in this !
im the little blonde kid with no front teeth chasing camera in playground....
Thank You!!!
They're English. We can't be sifting through thousands of blonde kids with no teeth to find you.
So you went to Robert Mont like me ? I was 5 when I started there. In 68. Great school.
@@grindupBaker LOL! There's only one blond kid with no front teeth chasing camera in a playground. He's at 12:03
just saw ya! cute
This is a wonderful film, like going back in a time machine!
Lovely program. Nice to see real Jews, and old school cockneys of yesterday years. Thanks for the upload.
Georgia was a fantastic singer and along with Lionel the genius they took Oliver to the top.
they started moving Cockneys out to the New Towns like Harlow, Milton Keynes et al back in the 1950' s it was social cleansing. I am a real Cockney went to Danford school Bethnal Green and cannot pronounce my H's which is sometimes a problem because for the last 20 years I have been teaching in schools both State and Public.
I bet you have deal with some right little 'erberts ha ha
I went to Deal St school and Daneford.
I went to daneford ,, such a great time.. and to my amazement I run into an old teacher just before covid arrived in a Chinese restaurant in margate...
It was one of the most humbling moments in my life....sort of sadness and happiness...but glad I had the opportunity...I lived a few streets away from daneford..and before that went to Columbia road school.... theres nothing left of what I knew...and I can say hand on heart it changed and not for the better...🇬🇧
Morpeth in the 80s. 👍
I was at Deal St school when it was called Robert Montefiore then went to the secondary school in Vallance Rd. Great days.
I love this - I have become totally immersed in this documentary about the East End. I am neither a Londoner (nor Jewish) - but have always found both fascinating. Maybe its because ....... I love History, love different Nationalities with their different cultures. As a Scot, I lived near London for 28 years - and would move back tomorrow in a heartbeat!
Jacqueline-Cheryl McPherson .
The East end is now like a mini Bangladesh. No English people. Barely any jews left too, and only 3 synagogues because its a muslim area now. But that's what the Jews wanted... Just look at the battle of cable street. They were so intitled, then they leave and we're stuck with all the rest of the foreigners they wanted so badly.
Loved the documentary. Recognised a kid Lionel Bart was talking to who went on to my secondary school. Georgia Brown was way ahead of her time.
Love this video! Was watching it 2years ago. Anyone remember the very short man with a bent spine who stood on a box and repaired glasses? He was so fast and expert and didn't charge a lot. Always lots of people all around his stall just watching a clever man at work! Thanks for the memory Georgia! God Bless! XXX
Unfortunately she wasn’t blessed. She died a young woman having an operation in this country that went wrong.😥
Wonderful reminiscences from Georgia. The sixties and possibly the 70s were probably the last 2 decades of the true Cockney East End. My Gran was a true Beau Bells Cockney
@Jon TeeHee Hello Jon! Its spelt 'Bow' (like tieing a bow in your shoelace) not Beau, after the church of St Mary-le-Bow. :)
Fantastic documentary, best I've seen in years. I was born in south London in 1967 and have always had a interest in londons ever changing history. So great to see Lionel Bart and Georgia Brown had me hanging on every word she spoke. As my dear old mother often reminds me, nothing stays the same!
We East Enders used to rub along with immigrants when there were not so many about. Now they are dominant and they certainly do not want to rub along with us - so us who could left! I am sorry for the families who could not get out and now live in misery and the past!
You've missed the point, the East End has always been a site of imigration, first the French Hugenots, then the Jews then the Bengalis, it will always be in flux.
Greg Lewis But the native British were the dominant culture in the past - the immigrants would assimilate to that culture. Now the natives are the minority, there is no impetus for immigrants to adopt British culture. This is the difference.
Cerebralcardio
Well, they shouldn't ave moved out should they ? Its no good you moaning.
Cerebralcardio
Its called "White flight" I believe.
Spidy Man What Brit would want to live next to huge numbers low IQ foreigners with backwards cultures? And to put up any sort of fight would be considered "hate crime". The traitors and infiltrators in government fucked us.
Thanks for uploading- almost looks like a different planet. Incredible.
What a brilliant documentary. Thank you for putting it up.
my mum is in this documentary 26 mins into it standing outside my dads shop*(Asiatic Delights) in black lion yard red hair black jumper.............................................................................
@26:00
Wow,you must be so proud.
how do you and your mum feel about everything that's happened in Tower Hamlets since?
what a brilliant documentary ,, well shot and edited man
If only Georgia could see the clash now!
What a fantastic documentary. Amazing history of East London from a Jewish perspective. So many succesful individuals form such a small and painfully poor area. Impresive.
amazing show I was born in 63 and lived in north London .My family come from the east end after russia obviously and my parents moved out in 1960 .I can relate to this .
Now the east end is literally Londonstan like it or not
I'm obsessed with Georgia Brown.
Wasn't she magnificent.
Absolutely a real beauty and life force
Yeah I’d give her one
Sexy and sophisticated❤️
Lionel and Georgia were kindred spirits, like Monty Clift and Liz Taylor.
Thanks remember this as a child
Bless Mr Mitzimaha! (Hope I spelt it correctly). Fascinating documentary. Georgia was very forward thinking.
Lionel Bart was a musical genius.
+canturgan Ditto
Just watched a study on terror a sherlock holmes meets jack the ripper film from65 and i saw this lady singing in the pub and i wanted to know more so here i am
A great little documentary. Enjoyed watching it. Thanks for posting it.
What a fascinating documentary, thanks for posting it. They say only the good die young..............................
She sounds quite like Nigella Lawson
Awesome documentary - I am trying to trace my Grandmothers family in the East End I hope to come over next year - thanks for uploading
This is brilliant. I started at Robert Mont junior school in 68, well nursery. Happiest days of my life at this school. Anyone remember Mr Martin ?
Yes I do and Mr Sokoloff, Miss Mary and Miss Block!
Excellent and informative video. Georgia Brown was a treasure.
That was good, pity she died so young,,
Golders Green 3 miles ( but to you my friend, 2 and a half 😊)
🤣 It's negotiable
Excellent documentary
A super insight into the area I was born in. She even visits Spelman Street (where I was born in Chicksand housei 64') and I mustve been in that very street when they filmed this just yards away. You can see my flats when she is in her living room thru the window, Chicksand House. Thanks for this great insight Georgia...RIP xx
My grandparents lived at 61 Chicksand House. In the 'sixties, I guess it was, my grandmother moved to Pauline House....
I was born in the London Hospital but lived the other end of Vallance Rd. Used to hang around Hanbury St,etc One of my old mates still lives in Hanbury.
Both buildings still standing.
Interesting window into that time.
Wonderful upload, thank you. I was born a Cockney and, though I live 6000 miles away in Vancouver, Canada I am still, and will always be a Cockney.
+David Phillips me too mate
+smegmalyzer 'Allo Mate: I don't quite qualify as 100% Cockney. I was born in St Giles''s Hospital, Peckham so (according to recent experiments) a quarter of a mile outside the Bow Bells. I don't care what they say, however; I maintain that the bells can be heard from Peckham Road when the wind's in the north. Even if I'm wrong I still feel Cockney and will until I'm dead. My son was born here (in Alberta) and even he feels like a Cockney since we've spent a lot of time in Peckham, Bermondsey and the East End since he was born. It isn't so much a place as a state of mind, I think, and it NEVER leaves you no matter where you end up.
Peckham is Cockney, you van hear them on a Sunday morning, we aint quibbling about a hundred yard mate, East End is something else, Bermondsey and Peckham is cockney, Im from the Elephant, like the pub chain in Canada Elephant and castle lolol, st Giles is 100% cockney mate
Thanks mate. You're right of course and once a Cockney you're always a Cockney no matter where you are.
I used to go in the Elephant in the 60s/70s but I don't suppose you remember the old Elephant, it was knocked down in '58-'59, I think; they put the old statue on top of the new shopping centre. Anyway, my uncle Ken managed the old one in the '50s, it was sad when they knocked it down, I remember we had great parties there when I was little.
The pub we used most in the 60s and 70s was the Temple Bar down Walworth Road, had some great times there. Then there was the Thomas a Becket on New Kent Road, used to go upstairs there and watch Henry Cooper training. Oh how I miss those days mate; it's all changed now and not for the better either.
Thanks for the memories. Cheers, Dave.
I was born in '59. To be honest they are trying to do things, Camberwell is gentrified, the East Lane market is only a quarter of what it was, thats terrible, Millwall is still there, they will knock down the Elephant and replace it now. They ruined the place with the Aylesbury estate, but the Canal Bridge area has been down for a long time mate, I moved to the Bonamy is 70, thats gone now, not suprised really, yeah, its all gone, shame, had many drinks up the Old Kent Road, went down the pan early seventies
Pleased I met Lionel Bart! RIP X
That takes me back?
sad thing is that it isnt a melting pot anymore, just a load of separatecultures, at best indifferent to the traditional Londers, more often showing nothing but contempt for them... so sad what's been lost...
same with Edinburgh and probably all the other great UK cities.
A haven for a new type of immigrant economic opportunist Rich chinese student's and Mediterranean drifters and middle class hipsters opening business are aimed at anyone but the traditional locals be lucky to get a cup of tea and toast for under a tenner because they fill it wth fancy shit and give it fancy names.
The immigrants like Georgia's family and like the kind that come over in the post war age knuckled down and become part of the community.
Politicians could not give a fuck as long as they get a few backhanders.
Do you actually live in London? I doubt it
@@tombaringer633 Mind your language eh?
@@AlexOjideagu2 fuck off back to Nigeria. You are not wanted here
Stops being a melting pot when one culture and faith takes it over
I am just amazed at how far ahead of her time Georgia Brown was. In the light of the way some people feel free to behave in an openly racist way today wouldn't it be good for the BBC to rerun this programme ? It is always a tragedy when people who want to encourage reconciliation die much too young. Georgia Brown was a terrible loss not only to the theatre, but to all who long for people to live together in peace.
It was interesting to actually see Tubby Isaacs because Helen Shapiro mentions him in her book too. I was at Wilton's Music Hall in Graces Alley recently - a stunning place steeped in Whitechapel history. Well worth a visit.
I'm amazed at how naive you are , are you seriously saying that everyone was a racist back then , society is more racist and unequal now even though its more PC. Despite being politically incorrect it was a different country a generally happier one where the blacks and Asians spoke like cockneys
jasonfury1 hmm an actual sensible comment on the internet,who would of thought
How totally and utterly unrealistic you are! There is a VAST difference between racism and honest realism!
Tenortalker People are kind when New comers want to integrate and their daughters aren't raped. People are funny like that. Nobody cares about skin colour, they care that their neighbours are friendly and don't regard them as somehow unclean, again people tend tend to be funny like that. This idea that peace and harmony just needs white people to not be racist is a joke. We are animals and like animals we want to be with our own, when did this become a thought crime? Get over your ignorant holier than thou attitude.
Fucking libtards
i was 2 yrs old when this was filmed.
paul whelan I was 5 and was just starting at the school featured on the video. Happy times.
ah 50 years on...
This was wonderful.
Great programme, shows not a lot has changed really when you think about it. A lot of London still looks very deprived and if you took the cars away some of the areas look as though it was still the Victorian era. Wonder how many of those buildings and streets are left
People aren't as friendly as this now.
She was my cousin. UnfortunAtely she died when she was in her early 60s
she was my cousin also we were very proud of her loved all her work
+Helen Fox She was 58 when she died in London. I was the boyfriend of one of the housemen (student doctors) at Charing Cross where she died of an obstructive bowel disorder. She was, by all accounts, remarkable. And emigrated to the States in the 1970s. Strange that her cousins don't seem to know her age? This doc is still incredibly pertinent today....
She was my cousin also. Unfortunately, she died when I was 9 years old.
She had many cousins ya?
She had many cousins ya?
No Georgia...It died!!!!
LOVE. IT ( When. She. Said. That. She eat a. Pork pie. ). London. Was. Working CLASS &. Welcoming to. All immigrant,S. Because. THEY. NEVER. PUT ON. TO. EACH-OTHER. Just. GOT ONE. WITH. IT ,, NOW. THE. NEW. LOT. JUST. TAKE. TAKE. TAKE , & DO. NOT ASSIMILATE. JUST. TRY TO. PUSH THERE. CULT On US .
don't no the woman.but her points are very clear.and well said.
Georgia was well ahead of her time.She knew what was coming.
she was charmingly deluded
Yes, she knew what was coming, alright. That's why she left England and moved to an all-white suburb in California. Celebrating diversity.....from a distance.
immigrants from white places always wanted to be cockney, especially 2nd generation, thats not the case no more, theres nothing but contempt for cockneys from people of asian or african origin
Sadly ture. Cockney's were a melting pot of culture, irish, englsh, jews greeks, itallians etc etc all became cockneys, the new lot disdain everything British. So sad...
within a few generations the invasion was complete thanks to the traitors in westminister
@@SI-cd7xs Invaders griping about being invaded...lol.
GORDON BENNETT NO ONE on here has invaded anyone! But....if you want to speak of empires, ok! The Roman, the Viking, the Mughal, the Islamic, etc......😒
@@pommiebears You haven't got a clue.
Interesting
Wasn't she beautiful, inside and out! X
Lionel Bart reminds me of Bob Hoskins
Totally
A cross between Hoskins and Phil Daniels 🤣
Well that was good and still very relavant, integration or isolation, would be interesting to see whats going on there now, or has it all gone gentrified and the issues moved somewhere else?
Very interesting doc. Georgia seems like a remarkably progressive, wise and forward-thinking person. It’s a shame to see that more people, on both sides of the divide, are not more open-minded.
adorably naive would becmy summation
@@videocurios Christ...yeah...a world were people would accept, or at least tolerate each other, how fucking awful would that be? Well, I guess we can all go back to our little cliques, cultures and tribes and remain suspicious and hostile to each other instead.
I guess I’ll crawl back to the part of the world that I was born in (and therefor either feel ownership/entitlement to) and build up the barricades.
@@neilmclaughlin2347 'Tolerance' is not necessarily a virtue. Tolerance is also a synonym for suffering. Should one tolerate being ethnically replaced from one's own ancestral homeland, whether through invading armies or the army of capital (mass immigration)? Should the Irish have been more tolerant towards the British? The Romans more open-minded toward the Barbarians? Man is a tribal and territorial animal, evolutionarily wired to be so - and that ain't going to change, by some pseudo-religious high-minded "progressive" morality. In fact, without "cliques, cultures, and tribes" you wouldn't have diversity in the first place. The capitalist melting pot destroys uniqueness.
Harrods and Marks & Sparks started in the East End.
Tesco started in the East End
harrods started in borough high st
The Italians. The Greeks. The Jews.... The English!
they moved out of the slum
Я родился в1968 году.
@20:30 he looks like David Walliams
whats the name of that first song...`a careful good time girl you see queen of swell society`
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Not a burka in sight
My cat was born in a stable, but he's certainly not a horse.
Your knowledge of genetics is flawed.
Sadly it's now becoming Gentrified.
29:32 lol
joe fisher is a russian jew has he was born in bethnal green.
Pity she didn’t walk up to Blooms
Yeah I should've watched it all first - can anyone explain to me why Jewish People have been persecuted throughout history - I mean what is the reason? ( Or is it what is defined as reason)!
I think its the suspicious foreigner syndrome coupled with fear of non Christians which would have been the norm in Europe in centuries when Biblical brainwashing was the only form of education most of the population received . Christianity has been the dominant religion in Europe for the last couple of millennia and anybody practicing a lifestyle and rituals outside that norm would have been the subject of suspicion. Modern Jews do integrate,but even today the Orthodox Jews do not court integration so leave themselves outsiders to the rest of society the prejudices that still exist today are born of times when all Jews were orthodox . The hatred of Jews by today's Muslims is obviously born of the Palestinian/Israel issues,but that by rights should only be felt by Arabs directly affected by Israeli settlement,alas Islam is all about mass brainwashing so Muslims the world over are taught to harbour a prejudice towards Jews. The bottom line seems to be that Humans with their over complex minds are flawed and Xenophobia is inherent in the human Psychi and widespread dependency on a belief in Gods and other fantasies is the root cause of humanities woes.
videocurios I think you've got it right, about why jews are looked upon with distrust forever, it seems. I'm not Jewish, but all through my life, people have thought I was. I'll never forget the time when an elderly man pointed at me and said accusingly "You, Jewess!"; it was as if could feel the intense scrutiny of all eyes on me and that I somehow deserved condemnation for causing all of the world's problems! How strange it was to experience even that one moment of being singled out as if my very presence was some kind of unbearable offense. Now, on a happier note, I must tell you I looked at your youtube page, to understand where your insightful thoughts may have come from, and I found your great videos of music and poetry on recordings. I look forward to listening to the treasures you've made available. Thank you. In that few moments I noticed several that I can hardly wait to listen to!
I don't want to get into a heated argument about this, but I don't think you can sensibly attribute today's hatred of Jews to The I/P issues: after all, In Islamic tradition, the chant “Khaybar Khaybar, ya yahud, Jaish Muhammad, sa yahud,” which means, “Jews, remember Khaybar, the army of Muhammad is returning,” is used as a battle cry when attacking Jews or Israelis. The battle at Khybar was in 623...
Be that as it may, I don't think the comments on CZcams is the best place to look for explanations of why people behave the way we do.
you should come to brixton not a ghetto, one of the few places where everyone can get along, and an excellent choice of foods
Give or take a few stabbings or few a week
youve obviously not been here, there was a guy making a film with hidden cameras, walking around, trying to get robbed, and people kept telling him, dont be so obvious, your inviting someone to rob you, and he was saying, what does one do to get robbed around here, i found it hilarious, like anywhere else, im not saying it never happens but your totally exaggerating it
Brixton is now full of white middleclass hipsters like Shoreditch. it makes me laugh how people who don't live in London still think it's a ghetto
Not safe for the white man.
I must admit I find it amazing that these rich middle class uberites wanna live in shoreditch and brixton anyway .They see a London that I do not .Personally I think its an overcrowded pissole
I like the documentary i like georgia but this is propaganda make no mistake
john smith for what?
@@grizzo4513 the push for london to become as "multicultural" and as "diversified" as is humanly possible
Bizarre sub titles!
yes i never noticed until you mentioned it ha ha
Where's Ron and Reg? Wasn't this their manor?
They were no doubt busy beating the life out of somebody at the time ha ha.
Haha
I think they were detained at Her Majesty's pleasure at the time. lol
In the nick .
not the pride of the east end.... nasty bastards the ordinary folk, salt of the earth are the pride of the east end
where are all the burkas etc lol
jamestoni modest head coverings for women = sheitls (wigs) for this community- same idea but harder to spot. The more things change the more they stay the same!
Ooooh aren't you clever
@@jojoUK120 No, wigs weren't worn by Jewish women in the east end.
The English.
3.07 plus The English.