From Bryan Lee O'Malley's tumblr RE Ramona's dead brother In April 2012 he wrote: "I just tracked down the 10 facts about Ramona. I mean, these were mostly thematic things, just character motivation stuff for the actor to have in their brain. Like for Ramona one of the facts was this: “The whole 'new new girlfriend’ thing is more apt than Scott realizes. 'New new’ is exactly what Ramona is always trying to become, but the novelty keeps wearing off, forcing more changes in her life.” The big one that obviously came out in an interview at some point was the idea that Ramona had a younger brother who died. It’s not important how or why, but it was important to me that the great tragedy of Ramona’s life was NOT about Scott, Gideon, or another romance. It was her own thing, it was private. Anyway, ultimately it just felt too heavy for the book, and I never wrote it in officially. It was just between me and Mary. Now you know"" So he probably got embarrased Mary Elizabeth Winstead revealed something in the press he told her that he never included in the novels or movie as a plot point, denied it as a joke, the told the full story in 2012. It was his intention for the character, both in the novels and the movie - that's as good as canon. Also in the comic she wears her brothers shoelace around her neck: "The thing around Ramona’s neck is and always has been a little string/shoelace thing that is double wrapped and tied. In the movie it’s like a little double leather string choker thingy with a clasp at the back."
Actually, Lisa technically still exists in the movie. She was just reduced to a passing mention by Julie. Was such a quick thing that it’s pretty easy to miss, though.
@@marchosiasu9700it was when scott was asking about Ramona during julie's party, when he asks julie she chastises him for his previous relationships, mentioning lisa and kim
about the scott/todd theory, the plumtree song 'scott pilgrim' was actually named after a few of the bands friends, scott ingram and philip pilgrim, because the guitarists sister (named lynette!) mixed up the names, so it could be a pretty valid point
From Bryan's tumblr way back when: "Todd Ingram = the original Plumtree song, Scott Pilgrim, circa 1996-97, was named after two people, one of whom was named Scott Ingram. After the first vol came out I met the real Scott Ingram, who is an accountant now but was an indie rock child of the 90s. I gave Todd his last name as an homage to the origins of the song. (Todd is supposed to be the bigger, better, dumber version of Scott in many ways, so I wanted a similar/rhymey name)"
37:15 Imagine just being Ramona in the coin Killer ending, she would just be traumatized at the sight of her new boyfriend killing her Exes and leaving coins and just saying dumb video games line.
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but the Envy being the 4th ex concept kinda has a little trace of it in the movie and comics. Since in the comics Ramona fights Envy, and Scott says that Envy's weakpoint is the back of her knee. And in the movie ROXY has the same weakpoint. I really enjoyed the video!
True, to be fair though it was a whole separate universe almost! I feel like the extra time they gained by erasing Lisa was the reason we got much more development for the exes
24:13 In some of the notes in the colored editions of book 3 Bryan Lee O'Mailey did actually include notes that Todd was explicitly designed to be a bigger, dumber version of Scott. Which I don't really see in the story itself personally but it's still pretty neat.
I loved the movie but never gave a chance to comic. And just recently I finished all of the six comics and loved the franchise even more. I'm so excited for the animted show. The style of writing and the way they visualze the scenes and characters is so unique and none like others makes me so hyped for the animated show.
I am glad to hear that the Exs respawn at home. I always thought it would be a bummer to know that they are just dead and it seemed surprising that the characters weren’t phased by this. It is cool to learn all these facts about this series
while the idea of a second movie is heavenly, the cost of the movie would be so incomprehensible since many of the actors from the movie became so much more famous than they were in 2010. unless they have the budget and the audience they need (which they 100% have now), i don't see it happening ever but hey, an anime is still such good news, can't wait for it to come out :D
Well they’re still bringing back big names like Chris Evans and Brie for the animated show. Also not even sure what role the evil exes would play in a sequel if you think about the ‘10 years later’ plot
Haha not gonna lie, i was soo scared i was gonna have to edit it but it was nearly perfect as it was! I do have to admit i had to slow it down by like 0.05 to make it just right!
Great video I love Scott Pilgrim so much. This video has been in my recommended in a long time, very glad I finally watched it. Great video. I also love your voice! Subscribed!
"Maybe one day we'll see one" We saw one just a couple weeks ago... I mean, a sequel to a hybrid of the comics, the movie, and a slight updating. But a sequel nonetheless. Even if it was an animated series and not a movie.
@@marchosiasu9700 i'll be honest. I'm just a huge sucker for iceberg vids. I was just baffled why scott pilgrim didnt show up in my recommendations, it just ticked in my head earlier and I just HAD to watch this nearly 40 min vid. HUGE THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO.
with the scott todd parralell i believe that the plumtree song which scott was named after, got its name from two fans, being Tod pilgrim and Scott ingram, that the band would get the names mixed up of
On the todd/scott parallel theory: I like to think it makes se se for it to be planned that say since Scott was named after the plumtree song, Scott pilgrim, and Todd's last name is from that same song after Bryan found out it was about a guy named Scott Ingram. So they both share a namesake
Thought I would add onto the thing about Roxie turning into animals, its a very direct reference to sonic the hedgehog where when you defeat enemies, it releases animals. Thats probably where it comes from, seems to random to not be a reference to sonic and fits with video game themes
Pretty sure this is the extended footage : czcams.com/video/1xcSDYy3Dl4/video.html (Black Sheep, posted recently but features shots that aren't in the final movie, noticeably no text overlay for the lyrics, like the "Youuuouuuu") czcams.com/video/KI0xsw3x7EY/video.html (Garbage Truck, posted in 2010 and while not too different from the final, it does have some different angles, less vfx, and isn't interrupted by Matthew and fades to black instead.) I'm not 100% sure if these are official, but they seem convincing enough to me since they aren't just reused shots from the movie like you'll typically find searching for these songs, so I think these are it.
Man I just played yesterday the game with my siblings and I was wondering if the secret area led us to Montreal...was so disappointed that it was just Joseph's room. It could've been cool 😭
Thank u so much! To be honest I was really out of my depth with this one and it took me a long time, but if I find some topic I'm open to trying again! The internet's super fast paced nowadays tho so by the time i'd be finished making my own video, there would be hundreds on the same topic : (
24:45 I would've added that Todd Ingram's last name comes from Scott Ingram, one of two people whose names were combined to make the name Scott Pilgrim for the title of the Plumtree song of the same name, along with the design similarities (ringer tees, wristbands)
Its best to buy them if possible to support the author. In my case however Ive read them online, here, because the comic is unavailable in my country for now (coming out in a few days, but i was reading it a few years ago) readcomiconline.li/Comic/Scott-Pilgrim/Issue-1?id=19830
Im really torn on the seven deadly sins theory because my first thought was Matthew would represent wrath and Todd pride but I dont really have the evidence to back it up. I never got the vibe that Matthew's anger came from a place of self-centeredness and was more him being petty, and part of Todd's shtick is "Im a rockstar, I do what I want" which sounds like pride to me. I dont think Matthew representing pride and Todd wrath is wrong, I just thought it was gonna be the other away
I've been on a Scott Pilgrim hyperfixation and I love iceberg videos so this is amazing for me
Thank you so much TwwT
I made this video for the exact same reason you watched it haha
Ramona's natural hair color is confirmed to be a light brown by Bryan O'mally as well as one of her color options in the video game
WE’RE GETTING AN ANIMEEEE WOOOOOOOO-
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
At the cost of the movie taken off of Netflix 😔
@@b1tchb4by3 it's on Stan in Australia
Edit: Nvm the bastards removed it from there too
TRAILER CAME OUT TODAY!!!
@@OnlineOliver YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
From Bryan Lee O'Malley's tumblr RE Ramona's dead brother
In April 2012 he wrote: "I just tracked down the 10 facts about Ramona. I mean, these were mostly thematic things, just character motivation stuff for the actor to have in their brain. Like for Ramona one of the facts was this: “The whole 'new new girlfriend’ thing is more apt than Scott realizes. 'New new’ is exactly what Ramona is always trying to become, but the novelty keeps wearing off, forcing more changes in her life.”
The big one that obviously came out in an interview at some point was the idea that Ramona had a younger brother who died. It’s not important how or why, but it was important to me that the great tragedy of Ramona’s life was NOT about Scott, Gideon, or another romance. It was her own thing, it was private.
Anyway, ultimately it just felt too heavy for the book, and I never wrote it in officially. It was just between me and Mary. Now you know""
So he probably got embarrased Mary Elizabeth Winstead revealed something in the press he told her that he never included in the novels or movie as a plot point, denied it as a joke, the told the full story in 2012. It was his intention for the character, both in the novels and the movie - that's as good as canon. Also in the comic she wears her brothers shoelace around her neck: "The thing around Ramona’s neck is and always has been a little string/shoelace thing that is double wrapped and tied. In the movie it’s like a little double leather string choker thingy with a clasp at the back."
Actually, Lisa technically still exists in the movie. She was just reduced to a passing mention by Julie.
Was such a quick thing that it’s pretty easy to miss, though.
Oh really?! Which scene was it? To be honest I totally missed it, but I've only seen the movie once lmao
@@marchosiasu9700it was when scott was asking about Ramona during julie's party, when he asks julie she chastises him for his previous relationships, mentioning lisa and kim
@@TheHunterPersianWhich is ironic considering Scott never actually dated Lisa
about the scott/todd theory, the plumtree song 'scott pilgrim' was actually named after a few of the bands friends, scott ingram and philip pilgrim, because the guitarists sister (named lynette!) mixed up the names, so it could be a pretty valid point
From Bryan's tumblr way back when:
"Todd Ingram = the original Plumtree song, Scott Pilgrim, circa 1996-97, was named after two people, one of whom was named Scott Ingram. After the first vol came out I met the real Scott Ingram, who is an accountant now but was an indie rock child of the 90s. I gave Todd his last name as an homage to the origins of the song. (Todd is supposed to be the bigger, better, dumber version of Scott in many ways, so I wanted a similar/rhymey name)"
Imagine these guys just find out a whole successful franchise was based off of a song for them lol
37:15 Imagine just being Ramona in the coin Killer ending, she would just be traumatized at the sight of her new boyfriend killing her Exes and leaving coins and just saying dumb video games line.
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but the Envy being the 4th ex concept kinda has a little trace of it in the movie and comics. Since in the comics Ramona fights Envy, and Scott says that Envy's weakpoint is the back of her knee.
And in the movie ROXY has the same weakpoint.
I really enjoyed the video!
Poor Lisa
The anime had a flashback scene that looked back to Kim and Scott's High School years. But we still didn't get Lisa.
True, to be fair though it was a whole separate universe almost! I feel like the extra time they gained by erasing Lisa was the reason we got much more development for the exes
24:13 In some of the notes in the colored editions of book 3 Bryan Lee O'Mailey did actually include notes that Todd was explicitly designed to be a bigger, dumber version of Scott. Which I don't really see in the story itself personally but it's still pretty neat.
I loved the movie but never gave a chance to comic. And just recently I finished all of the six comics and loved the franchise even more. I'm so excited for the animted show. The style of writing and the way they visualze the scenes and characters is so unique and none like others makes me so hyped for the animated show.
I am glad to hear that the Exs respawn at home. I always thought it would be a bummer to know that they are just dead and it seemed surprising that the characters weren’t phased by this. It is cool to learn all these facts about this series
other video game references include:
g-man being a reference to half-life's g-man
gideon's symbol looks like the triforce from legend of zelda
I never noticed that!!! Thats so cool wth
while the idea of a second movie is heavenly, the cost of the movie would be so incomprehensible since many of the actors from the movie became so much more famous than they were in 2010. unless they have the budget and the audience they need (which they 100% have now), i don't see it happening ever
but hey, an anime is still such good news, can't wait for it to come out :D
Good point! I also cant wait for the anime!!
@@marchosiasu9700The trailer has just came out
Well they’re still bringing back big names like Chris Evans and Brie for the animated show. Also not even sure what role the evil exes would play in a sequel if you think about the ‘10 years later’ plot
7:00 to talk about gideon is another numerology
HOLY SHIT I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE WHAT THE FUCK
@@marchosiasu9700 He's inside your mind alredy hahaha
"Maybe one day we'll see one"
One day has came
Ive loved scott pilgrim for the past 6 years thank you for making this bruthuh
this is probably the greatest iceberg video ever besides windigoons disturbing movies iceberg of course
AAAA as a fellow wendigoon fan i am so thankful!! This is my first iceberg ever so you cant imagine how honored i feel rn TwT
The biggest gideon-seven correlation i think is the fact he dropped $7,777,777 after being defeated by scott
Great iceberg, I can see you have made a lot of research for this video. It really is a deep dive to such a great series, ty for that
i love how the video ends at the perfect timing with you winning the game
Haha not gonna lie, i was soo scared i was gonna have to edit it but it was nearly perfect as it was! I do have to admit i had to slow it down by like 0.05 to make it just right!
This video is gonna get super popular trust
Awww thank u :D i guess well see but im just happy anyone enjoyed it!!
Great video I love Scott Pilgrim so much. This video has been in my recommended in a long time, very glad I finally watched it. Great video. I also love your voice! Subscribed!
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you enjoyed it (and im glad it ended up in anyone's recommended lol)
"Maybe one day we'll see one"
We saw one just a couple weeks ago... I mean, a sequel to a hybrid of the comics, the movie, and a slight updating. But a sequel nonetheless. Even if it was an animated series and not a movie.
Anime announced, I'm so fricking excited!
Same here, can't wait! I'm so glad all of the actors are coming back to voice the characters
Highly underrated iceberg.
Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed it
@@marchosiasu9700 i'll be honest. I'm just a huge sucker for iceberg vids. I was just baffled why scott pilgrim didnt show up in my recommendations, it just ticked in my head earlier and I just HAD to watch this nearly 40 min vid.
HUGE THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO.
@@floatinsardines8104 I see To be honest i wasnt expecting much attention when I made this, im glad i got any!
i love scott pilgrim and love iceberg videos so this video is perfect for me!! great video
Thank you so much!! Im glad you enjoyed it
with the scott todd parralell i believe that the plumtree song which scott was named after, got its name from two fans, being Tod pilgrim and Scott ingram, that the band would get the names mixed up of
im pretty sure that roxie turning into a bunch of animals instead of coins is a reference to sonic but idk if that was ever confirmed
The fact Wavves introduced me to this franchise 😭😭
Plz make more videos! Your flow and style is awesome!!
Thank you so muuuch TwwT it was supposed to be a one time thing but maybe ill manage to find something new to record
@@marchosiasu9700 I'd def watch your analysis of Scott Pilgrim Takes Off! Hope to see you pop back up on my feed c:
@@deadmeatjr ill definitely think of that!!! Thank you!!
This is a really entertaining video I really like it keep it up 👍
yea i would have not liked seth rogen in the role. scott is awkward as hell. so ceras awkwardness is perfect imo.
Really well done iceberg!
The Zero shirt is a reference to the band Smashing Pumpkins. The green shirt he wears also has the Smashing Pumpkins logo.
As soon as I finished the comic I cane straigth to your video
I could see the actors who played the Katayanagi twins continue speaking Japanese or maybe they did learn a bit of English a decade later
On the todd/scott parallel theory: I like to think it makes se se for it to be planned that say since Scott was named after the plumtree song, Scott pilgrim, and Todd's last name is from that same song after Bryan found out it was about a guy named Scott Ingram. So they both share a namesake
Anime is almost here 😼
Yesss!! 5 more days!!1
Loved your video! Hope this iceberg gets expanded to include some of the anime trivia.
Thought I would add onto the thing about Roxie turning into animals, its a very direct reference to sonic the hedgehog where when you defeat enemies, it releases animals. Thats probably where it comes from, seems to random to not be a reference to sonic and fits with video game themes
league gameplay talkin bout scott pilgrim this video was made for me lmao
Ey woooooah! Im Nightfurywitch and it’s great to see this video made!!!! Idk how i only just now saw it but sick!!!!
yOO good to see you mate! Thank you so much for everything again!!
Pretty sure this is the extended footage :
czcams.com/video/1xcSDYy3Dl4/video.html (Black Sheep, posted recently but features shots that aren't in the final movie, noticeably no text overlay for the lyrics, like the "Youuuouuuu")
czcams.com/video/KI0xsw3x7EY/video.html (Garbage Truck, posted in 2010 and while not too different from the final, it does have some different angles, less vfx, and isn't interrupted by Matthew and fades to black instead.)
I'm not 100% sure if these are official, but they seem convincing enough to me since they aren't just reused shots from the movie like you'll typically find searching for these songs, so I think these are it.
I see!! Thank you so much!! I will definitely check them out whenever i get a chance
Man I just played yesterday the game with my siblings and I was wondering if the secret area led us to Montreal...was so disappointed that it was just Joseph's room. It could've been cool 😭
You already know Precious's bottom will be SEATED when da anime comes out
Yes, an iceberg!!!
The best part is when Scott pilgrims all over the iceberg
Thanks for sharing
23:59 pretty sure that’s just a smashing pumpkins reference.
12:24 so chill, that in the anime, Old Scott Pilgrim makes a new band with the 5th and 6th ex-bf.
great video fr fr
Thank u so much
@@marchosiasu9700 u welcome dawg
24:14 this is definitely true, the plumtree song Scott Pilgrim is based on a real person Scott Ingram, that’s where O’Malley got the idea for Todd.
Does anyone here remember the Scott Pilgrim Ning? I remember it was the first time I sought out an online community for a fandom.
I appreciate this video.
hi julie
Anybody else noticed the Crewmate at 28:52?
the Scott pilgrim character creator is on bluemaxima flashpoint
You should upload soon if you can! Love your vids, even vids not like this!
Awww thank you! Honestly it was largely a one time thing, but ill try to come up with something
also the name of envy's band (clash at demonhead) is a reference to an old game
Yes! I mention it later on in the video ;3
@@marchosiasu9700 i didnt finish yet! but a great video
@@isabelasatil thank you
Yo I love this video why didn't you make more like this?
Thank u so much! To be honest I was really out of my depth with this one and it took me a long time, but if I find some topic I'm open to trying again! The internet's super fast paced nowadays tho so by the time i'd be finished making my own video, there would be hundreds on the same topic : (
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thank you for answering my question I love Scott pilgrim and seeing an Iceberg for it was amazing I like the amount of detail you put in the video
@marchosiasu9700 do you think you'll make more vids in the future, no pressure just really enjoyed the chill video and low-key channel
@@Iceteaandcarti Im open to trying, so maybe but not planning anything particular now
24:45 I would've added that Todd Ingram's last name comes from Scott Ingram, one of two people whose names were combined to make the name Scott Pilgrim for the title of the Plumtree song of the same name, along with the design similarities (ringer tees, wristbands)
5:02 in the movie it also took him 2 minutes to defeat Scott.
the anime will blow this up
15:37 update: since the scott pilgrim takes of, ramona is a blond(shown in the opening of the episode where she dyes her hair.)
9:05 ironic
In my defense there was no reason to believe an anime would be coming out back then 💀💀
very nice video
Where can I read the comics?
Its best to buy them if possible to support the author. In my case however Ive read them online, here, because the comic is unavailable in my country for now (coming out in a few days, but i was reading it a few years ago)
readcomiconline.li/Comic/Scott-Pilgrim/Issue-1?id=19830
I giggled at the greedion joke
3:18 The Knives ending in the movie is the REAL ending, The Ramona Ending is the alternate ending.
Love this
Thank you so much! Im glad you enjoyed
I knew the exs responded but I didn’t know it magically took away their revengeful feelings lol
Lol I imagine it was more about being humbled
Im really torn on the seven deadly sins theory because my first thought was Matthew would represent wrath and Todd pride but I dont really have the evidence to back it up. I never got the vibe that Matthew's anger came from a place of self-centeredness and was more him being petty, and part of Todd's shtick is "Im a rockstar, I do what I want" which sounds like pride to me. I dont think Matthew representing pride and Todd wrath is wrong, I just thought it was gonna be the other away
Sounds reasonable!
Cool
37:22 wow, hm…….. anime better make this the canon ending or I will riot-
The thumbnail 4½ reminded me that -4⁰ looks like a guy pooping
Great, now I will never unsee it.
Subscribed 😎
I made Ramona as my picture for all my accounts
Wait why does roxie explode ino animals
Its a sonic 1 reference I believe whenever you beat a boss you step on this capsule thing and a bunch of animals pop out
@gagagoo4992 oh yeah
the seven deadly sins one is such a strech none of the sins fit that well and the only reason that theory exists is cause theres 7 exes
To be honest I kind of agree. I guess its nice to consider it anyway, but I doubt O'Malley had it in mind while writing the comic
Idk why but when u started playing League of Legends i stated to die 😭
Im sorry!! Thats the only longer running footage I could come up with haha
how old is the person on this video?
You mean my voice? Im 19
Why does every british person have to talk about icebergs
I am not british
@@marchosiasu9700 new Zealand, australian whatever, I constantly hear people with that accent talk about icebergs
@@penitentestudios1492 well im polish so thats pretty far away but i see
Americans finding about other people existing vol. 848
i was super high watching this and didn’t understand a thing but w kayn gameplay
33:39 once you beat the game the credits edge you with screenshots of playable envy with knives I think in a map that doesn’t show up
What the fuck does this mean dude?